Dumb Question?

[Maxmadden]

I'm sure this has been discussed here before. Does anyone know if it's called a

A)Shovel Pass
B)Shuttle Pass
C)Shuffle Pass

I've heard it called all three but I was discussing it the other night with my brother during the game.

Anyone know the correct term and it's origination?

[SkinsandTerps]

I have heard A and C but never B.

I believe C is the correct term.

[sporadic]

It is most definately a shuttle pass.

[trickblue]

It's "Shovel Pass" to my knowledge, but I don't know the origins...

[silver]

I heard of the Savoy Truffle Pass

[sporadic]

My bad...I just called my dad on this one (he was a football coach for 17 years). He said It is called a SHUFFLE pass.

[SkinsandTerps]

Doesnt really matter much.

Its still ultimately a screen pass.

[NicholasD]

Saw an NFL Films thing on this once, and I'm pretty sure a majority of coaches, players, and Paul Tagliabue himself called it a shovel pass.

[phillycowboyslover]

i believe the answer is A.

[Armbender]

a shovel pass

[BrAinPaiNt]

Saw an NFL Films thing on this once, and I'm pretty sure a majority of coaches, players, and Paul Tagliabue himself called it a shovel pass.


You are correct.

They actually went to many coaches and had different answers but the majority was the shovel and yes Tags said so as well.

Interesting thing in that story was that both the shovel and shuffle pass have been terms that have been used in official NFL stats pages.

The story goes however that it was a shovel pass because it was an underhand type pass similar to someone using a coal shovel.

[Funxva]

Shovel pass (Underhanded pass)

[trickblue]

I have heard A and C but never B.

I believe C is the correct term.

You say tomato... I say tomato...

[SkinsandTerps]

You say tomato... I say tomato...

Exactly.


Probably was originally Shuffle or Shovel and both fit and make sense, so either is acceptable. Phonetically they are similar, so at some point someone said the other and the story goes on from there.

[Chocolate Lab]

On Monday night, Drew Pearson said it was definitely a "shovel" pass... At least for coach Landry. ;)

[WV Cowboy]

It's shovel.

What I don't understand is the "scream pass"

:lmao2:

Sorry.

[trickblue]

It's shovel.

What I don't understand is the "scream pass"

:lmao2:

Sorry.

Drew had one of those on the int Monday... ;)

[fortdick]

The original name is "forward lateral behind the line of scrimmage" but since it would result in a delay of game waiting for the call in the huddle someone said "take a shovel and bury that play." Hence the shovel play!

[Tyler Durden]

Yes...

[lurkercowboy]

The name of the pass has been misinterpreted because people hear it orally and thus learn it phonetically instead of by the spelling.

Like the "hook and lateral" play that is sometimes called "hook and ladder."

[vicjagger]

Shovel. Trust me, I'm an old-timer.

[DanTanna]

Sort of like "The Super Bowl Shovel"?

I'm the Fridge
And I'm a Rookie
I may be large but I'm no dumb cookie
I can dance, you will see
the others, they all learn from me .......

[jackrussell]

You say tomato... I say tomato...

"You say tomato, I say potato."

Joy
My Name Is Earl
11-8-05

[pancakeman]

What I don't understand is the "scream pass"

And what in the world does it mean to throw a "balm"?

[Erik_H]

And what in the world does it mean to throw a "balm"?

BALM! Who tol' you to use a BALM!

[poke]

I'm sure this has been discussed here before. Does anyone know if it's called a

A)Shovel Pass
B)Shuttle Pass
C)Shuffle Pass

I've heard it called all three but I was discussing it the other night with my brother during the game.

Anyone know the correct term and it's origination?

during the game al michaels made reference to its origin but i didnt remember
what he said so i looked it up. i only found one good reference , the whole
article is here but this should answer your question.

Utah's last outright conference championship was in 1957. Jack Curtice was the coach and Lee Grosscup the quarterback. They drew nationwide acclaim when they introduced the shovel pass to college football.

http://starbulletin.com/2003/11/23/sports/story11.html

[NovaCowboy]

Theres no such thing as a dumb question....... just dumb answers.

[Mike 1967]

On Monday night, Drew Pearson said it was definitely a "shovel" pass... At least for coach Landry. ;)

Well...if Tom Landry called it a shovel pass....then that's the end of the discussion

Shovel Pass it is !!!!

[Mike 1967]

Theres no such thing as a dumb question....... just dumb answers.

Unless the answer is already in front of your face :)

[Doomsday101]

Well...if Tom Landry called it a shovel pass....then that's the end of the discussion

Shovel Pass it is !!!!

Then again he called Hogeboom, Huginbloom. LOL Tom could butcher a players name. LOL

[Mike 1967]

Then again he called Hogeboom, Huginbloom. LOL Tom could butcher a players name. LOL

Then Huginbloom it is !!! :D

[Doomsday101]

Then Huginbloom it is !!! :D

Now off to the island with you Huginbloom. Sad part is evidently no one there knows who he is. LOL

[Maxmadden]

Thanks everyone! I've decided to go with the shovel. (I've always called it that. )

By the way it is POTATOE.

[jazzcat22]

Saw an NFL Films thing on this once, and I'm pretty sure a majority of coaches, players, and Paul Tagliabue himself called it a shovel pass.


Someone PLEASE take the 'shovel' and bury Tagliabue.
It is a Shuffle Pass.
Ask Thurman Thomas, he fumbled enough of them, right to James Washington was one of them :laugh2:

[KoRn_BoYz_5]

I'm sure this has been discussed here before. Does anyone know if it's called a

A)Shovel Pass
B)Shuttle Pass
C)Shuffle Pass

I've heard it called all three but I was discussing it the other night with my brother during the game.

Anyone know the correct term and it's origination?

it can be all 3, certain coaches have certain names, like the "oklahoma shuffle" the Oklahoma shuffle" and it just depends on the coaches.......as far as i understand