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pancakeman
02-06-2006, 12:23 PM
Okay, I know that Chuck Howley was the first defensive Super Bowl MVP and the only losing-team Super Bowl MVP.
Can somebody tell me what he did in that Super Bowl to earn that honor?
(My Cowboys fandom started after he was gone.)
Doomsday101
02-06-2006, 12:27 PM
Okay, I know that Chuck Howley was the first defensive Super Bowl MVP and the only losing-team Super Bowl MVP.
Can somebody tell me what he did in that Super Bowl to earn that honor?
(My Cowboys fandom started after he was gone.)

2 ints and a forced fumble and a fumble recovery. Howley really had a great individual performance in that game
wayne motley
02-06-2006, 01:16 PM
2 ints and a forced fumble and a fumble recovery. Howley really had a great individual performance in that game
Add to that the fact that both teams were so awful that there was no one on either offense to give the award to....At the time, Sports Illustrated called it the "Blunder Bowl."
jwhardin
02-06-2006, 05:30 PM
One thing I remember about that other than Howley's performance, was Duane Thomas fumbling the ball at the Baltimore 1 yd line, which would have given the Boys a good lead, Fitzgerald of the boys coming up with the ball, but the refs giving the ball to Baltimore.
Cajuncowboy
02-06-2006, 06:02 PM
One thing I remember about that other than Howley's performance, was Duane Thomas fumbling the ball at the Baltimore 1 yd line, which would have given the Boys a good lead, Fitzgerald of the boys coming up with the ball, but the refs giving the ball to Baltimore.

I forget who it was, but one of the Colt's defensive players was yelling "Colt's ball!" And the refs just said, "OK!" That was it.

Proof that no matter what bad calls will be made to change the course of a game. We saw in SB V and again in SB XL.
AbeBeta
02-06-2006, 06:07 PM
I forget who it was, but one of the Colt's defensive players was yelling "Colt's ball!" And the refs just said, "OK!" That was it.



yeah -- that one shocked me. But Landry should have thrown the challenge flag.
Cajuncowboy
02-06-2006, 06:08 PM
yeah -- that one shocked me. But Landry should have thrown the challenge flag.

LOL. They didn't have the challenge flag then. Maybe he should have thrown the Challenge Fedora!
Cbz40
02-06-2006, 06:19 PM
LOL. They didn't have the challenge flag then. Maybe he should have thrown the Challenge Fedora!


:lmao2:

He should have sailed it across the field like a Frizzbie
THUMPER
02-06-2006, 07:20 PM
One thing I remember about that other than Howley's performance, was Duane Thomas fumbling the ball at the Baltimore 1 yd line, which would have given the Boys a good lead, Fitzgerald of the boys coming up with the ball, but the refs giving the ball to Baltimore.

Actually that was Center Dave Manders who had the ball the whole time but the Colts players were all yelling and pointing their way so the refs awarded them the ball before they even unpiled the players to see who actually had it.

There have been some truly bad calls in SBs since then but to me that will always go down as the worst ever.
bbgun
02-06-2006, 09:22 PM
Chuck Howley was a damn good player for a long long time.

http://www.123imagehost.com/uploads/235-39-92034460.jpg
Future
02-06-2006, 10:23 PM
There have been some truly bad calls in SBs since then but to me that will always go down as the worst ever

maybe from a cowboys viewpoint

but the worst call IMO was Indy vs. Steelers when they caught that hail mary and they gave pitt, ironically, the benefit of doubt that it was incomplete
Ratmatt
02-07-2006, 02:09 AM
One thing I remember about that other than Howley's performance, was Duane Thomas fumbling the ball at the Baltimore 1 yd line, which would have given the Boys a good lead, Fitzgerald of the boys coming up with the ball, but the refs giving the ball to Baltimore.
It was cowboy center Dave Manders that came up with the ball.
Ratmatt
02-07-2006, 02:10 AM
I forget who it was, but one of the Colt's defensive players was yelling "Colt's ball!" And the refs just said, "OK!" That was it.

Proof that no matter what bad calls will be made to change the course of a game. We saw in SB V and again in SB XL.
It was Billy Ray Smith of the colts who started yelling colts ball,and the refs gave it to them,eventhough Dave Manders of the cowboys had it.
Ratmatt
02-07-2006, 02:17 AM
maybe from a cowboys viewpoint

but the worst call IMO was Indy vs. Steelers when they caught that hail mary and they gave pitt, ironically, the benefit of doubt that it was incomplete
If your talking about the 95 AFC championship game where Harbaugh threw the hail mary at the end of the game,and they called it incomplete.They called it incomplete because it was incomplete.
THUMPER
02-07-2006, 07:48 AM
maybe from a cowboys viewpoint

but the worst call IMO was Indy vs. Steelers when they caught that hail mary and they gave pitt, ironically, the benefit of doubt that it was incomplete

I don't believe that call was in a SB which is what I stated:

There have been some truly bad calls in SBs since then but to me that will always go down as the worst ever.
CooterBrown
02-07-2006, 08:28 AM
Duane Thomas didn't play in that SB. Dan Reeves was the RB. And, the "fumble" was Walt Garrison's, who swears to this day he had been down a long time before the ball was pulled loose. It was a phantom fumble with a phantom recovery that cost the Boys the game.
joseephuss
02-07-2006, 08:32 AM
Duane Thomas didn't play in that SB. Dan Reeves was the RB. And, the "fumble" was Walt Garrison's, who swears to this day he had been down a long time before the ball was pulled loose. It was a phantom fumble with a phantom recovery that cost the Boys the game.

The halftime break didn't seem to rejuvenate either offense. Colts defensive back Jim Duncan fumbled away the second-half kickoff, giving the Cowboys the ball deep in Baltimore territory. The Cowboys quickly drove downfield thanks to some efficient running by Thomas. But Thomas canceled out all his hard work by fumbling the ball right back to the Colts at, of all places, the one-yard line, denying the Cowboys of what might have been � at least on this day � an insurmountable 20-6 lead.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/history_superBowl.cfm
Doomsday101
02-07-2006, 08:35 AM
Duane Thomas didn't play in that SB. Dan Reeves was the RB. And, the "fumble" was Walt Garrison's, who swears to this day he had been down a long time before the ball was pulled loose. It was a phantom fumble with a phantom recovery that cost the Boys the game.

Mike Curtis intercepted a Morton pass is what did Dallas in. Morton threw a very bad pass over the head of Reeves right into the hands of Curtis from there the colts kicked the FG with secs left in the game
wayne motley
02-07-2006, 10:35 AM
No one wants to mention the bogus call on the Mackey TD reception where they claimed our DB, Cornell Green, I think, touched the ball, but he swore he didn't....back then it would have been called an incomplete pass because two offensive players couldn't touch the pass without a defender touching it in between.

That call is still disputed to this day.
Doomsday101
02-07-2006, 10:38 AM
No one wants to mention the bogus call on the Mackey TD reception where they claimed our DB, Cornell Green, I think, touched the ball, but he swore he didn't....back then it would have been called an incomplete pass because two offensive players couldn't touch the pass without a defender touching it in between.

That call is still disputed to this day.

I agree that was a big play in the game but Dallas still was in a position to overcome it which is why I pointed to the Morton int with a min something left in the game that set the colts up in the Dallas redzone where all they had to do was kick the FG to win.
WV Cowboy
02-07-2006, 10:50 AM
2 ints and a forced fumble and a fumble recovery. Howley really had a great individual performance in that game

Chuck Howley was a damn good player for a long long time.

Chuck Howley :D
CooterBrown
02-07-2006, 01:18 PM
I hate it when I'm wrong, but it does happen occasionally. My age must be having an effect on my memory. Duane Thomas carried the ball 18 times in that game.
CooterBrown
02-07-2006, 01:21 PM
I still blame Landry for that one. Morton had an injured hand and could barely throw. Staubach was on the bench watching, but Morton was the "starter". I guess Landry thought he gave the team the "best chance to win." He realized he was wrong the next year and Staubach quarterbacked the boys to their first SB win.
ravidubey
02-07-2006, 01:54 PM
maybe from a cowboys viewpoint

but the worst call IMO was Indy vs. Steelers when they caught that hail mary and they gave pitt, ironically, the benefit of doubt that it was incomplete

That was not a catch. The ball landed and bounced off the receiver's (Bailey?) lap. It lay there for a fraction of a second and in slow motion you can say it was a catch if you're a total Indy homer or want a lot of attention, but at full speed it was obvious the receiver was surprised the ball landed where it did and let it fall to the ground.
Ratmatt
02-08-2006, 12:21 AM
No one wants to mention the bogus call on the Mackey TD reception where they claimed our DB, Cornell Green, I think, touched the ball, but he swore he didn't....back then it would have been called an incomplete pass because two offensive players couldn't touch the pass without a defender touching it in between.

That call is still disputed to this day.
It was Mel Renfro.