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Sarge
04-22-2004, 08:33 PM
I say if Kevin Jones is there at 22, he's ours.

EveryoneElse
04-22-2004, 09:25 PM
I'm hoping it's Stephen Jackson, but I think your right about Kevin Jones....I' be happy with one of the two.

Hostile
04-22-2004, 09:27 PM
I'll go on record and say we will trade up and take Steven Jackson.

LaTunaNostra
04-22-2004, 10:21 PM
I'll go on record and say we will trade up and take Steven Jackson.

A BOLD prediction, TH.

And if it turns out to be correct, I'll jump off a bridge. :p

If Gamble is there at 22, take him. He is raw, but I think he'll make a nice partner for Newman. Those I realize Cowboys fans might be tired of seeing first round picks go on the secondary.

If Gamble is gone, trade down and take Tubbs, Carey, Dockett, Sapoaga, etc, if a few names are still on the value board at 22, and the next few teams drafting re unlikely to take all of them.

There are a host of names that could help us that are values from 22-28, I think.

It won't be glamerous this year. No Jones or Jackson, I think.

dbair1967
04-22-2004, 10:24 PM
I'd love to see S Jackson but would be happy with K.Jones

David

speedkilz88
04-22-2004, 10:53 PM
;) If Kevin Jones is the pick, I will be all smiles.

BrAinPaiNt
04-22-2004, 10:55 PM
A BOLD prediction, TH.

And if it turns out to be correct, I'll jump off a bridge. :p

If Gamble is there at 22, take him. He is raw, but I think he'll make a nice partner for Newman. Those I realize Cowboys fans might be tired of seeing first round picks go on the secondary.

If Gamble is gone, trade down and take Tubbs, Carey, Dockett, Sapoaga, etc, if a few names are still on the value board at 22, and the next few teams drafting re unlikely to take all of them.

There are a host of names that could help us that are values from 22-28, I think.

It won't be glamerous this year. No Jones or Jackson, I think.

If the Tuna and JJ wants someone to come in and be a starter from the get go...then Chris Gamble is not the man to choose IMO.

Sarge
04-22-2004, 10:57 PM
;) If Kevin Jones is the pick, I will be all smiles.

Fingers crossed!

Dale
04-22-2004, 11:02 PM
If Jones is there, I really expect him to be the pick. As much as I'd like to see Jackson wearing the star, Jones is a very good prospect as well and seems more realistic. I can't say I'd be disappointed to see a trade up for Jackson, though. ;)

jac9k
04-22-2004, 11:03 PM
I'll go on record and say we will trade up and take Steven Jackson.

if we have to go up near the 12-13-14 range, it going to cost too much.
our 1st,2nd and a 4th or 5th round pick.

if he drops around 16-17-18, our 1st and 3rd should do it.

I think any trading by the cowboys will down.

jac

jac9k
04-22-2004, 11:06 PM
If Jones is there, I really expect him to be the pick. As much as I'd like to see Jackson wearing the star, Jones is a very good prospect as well and seems more realistic. I can't say I'd be disappointed to see a trade up for Jackson, though. ;)
I would be happy with jones.
He would bring some speed to the offense
I beleive he is a lot faster than his 40 time.

Jones is good.
yes, make it so.
:D

jac

Bizwah
04-22-2004, 11:10 PM
I'm beginning to think we'll draft Jones.....Kevin, that is.....

If he's not there, I think we'll trade down. A player like Perry will be the pick then.

RatisBeast
04-22-2004, 11:28 PM
I'm hoping SJ, KJ , Evans or Reggie Williams in that order . :eek:

50cent
04-22-2004, 11:31 PM
Its funny that Hos would predict Steven Jackson in a trade up, knowing that you sometimes get inside info. Them Dale ends his post with a wink! I'm starting to get excited about Steven Jackson being a Cowboys, because I think you two know something but can't disclose it yet!

nathanlt
04-22-2004, 11:36 PM
Hopefully the BPA in round 2. Dallas should trade down. Getting Greg Jones and a highly rated guard will be better than simply getting Steven Jackson.

Tony D
04-22-2004, 11:49 PM
First post on the new site and our first pick will be Kevin Jones.

LaTunaNostra
04-22-2004, 11:50 PM
If the Tuna and JJ wants someone to come in and be a starter from the get go...then Chris Gamble is not the man to choose IMO.
That is very true, BP. But I'm hoping the concept of BPA trumps "degree of readiness", or the draft as we know it is dead..

Jimz31
04-23-2004, 12:00 AM
While I hope its a running back, I keep having a feeling that if nobody that we want is there, we will trade down and our first pick will be an O-lineman followed by a RB.

Champsheart
04-23-2004, 12:08 AM
I am praying it is Kevin Jones!

RatisBeast
04-23-2004, 12:10 AM
Change your font color tuna :D , its pretty awesome that we can change it now. :eek:

jdnalls
04-23-2004, 12:32 AM
I say if Kevin Jones is there at 22, he's ours.

Hopefully either Kevin Jones or Steven Jackson.

Not too much longer before we'll find out.

T-New41
04-23-2004, 12:39 AM
Holy crap Hos, I hope you are right about us going after JAckson.

I will do backflips. BACKFLIPS.

Please GOD make it true.

If not Jackson, the bring us Kevin Jones.

LaTunaNostra
04-23-2004, 12:55 AM
Holy crap Hos, I hope you are right about us going after JAckson.

I will do backflips. BACKFLIPS.

Please GOD make it true.

If not Jackson, the bring us Kevin Jones.

4/22: Could Parcells change his mind about running backs?
11:18 PM CDT on Thursday, April 22, 2004

Matt's Mail Call
Matt Mosley


Q: I have a feeling that Bill Parcells likes one of the top two running backs more than the other. Don't be surprised if it comes out later that he likes Kevin Jones a little more. I know that sounds a little weird, but it could be the truth. Just like the Colts had Edgerrin James higher than Ricky Williams a few years back. And do you remember how shocked everyone was then?

— Tim Rubio, San Jose, Calif.

Answer: I have the same feeling, Tim. The Cowboys seem to be a little concerned that Steven Jackson has had some minor knee injuries. Kevin Jones' stock started to fall after he recorded a 4.6 in the 40-yard dash during workouts. But I don't think that would prevent the Cowboys from taking him. Some guys just seem to have football speed. That means they shift into a higher speed when they put the pads on. Jones might not have T-shirt and shorts speed, but after watching a couple of his games last season, I didn't see too many guys running him down from behind. If Jones is there at No. 22, I think the Cowboys will grab him. Dallas isn't looking for a track star.

Matt Mosley answers your questions about the Cowboys each week. E-mail him here: mmosley@dallasnews.com.

NorthDalal
04-23-2004, 02:41 AM
"Toe Dipper" hint suggests no Kevin Jones.Scouts Inc. knock on Jones is he tends to bounce plays to the outside.

"Failure to utilize Avion Cason" hint expect a workhorse type back good for Jackson,Chris Perry,Michael Turner.

But.....

The repeated hints that they may wait til later to pick a back and a possible Curtis Martin starter kit like......Tatum Bell in the third.(he visited Dallas Friday).

My guess(and that's all any of us can do since we don't really know) is a trade down to 32 from N.E. or 34 from OAK and add additional picks, then go OL first pick from Carey, Snee, Smiley and Andrews are all OL that help.Then go BAA excepting LBs and QBs.

jkbear11
04-23-2004, 02:51 AM
Kevin Jones @ 22!!!!

if he is off the board at 22.... then trade down and get justin smiley... maybe....

jdnalls
04-23-2004, 03:03 AM
Kevin Jones @ 22!!!!

if he is off the board at 22.... then trade down and get justin smiley... maybe....
Okay, I'm hoping you're not suggesting we trade down and select Smiley in the 1st if we can't land Steven Jackson or Kevin Jones at #22.

jkbear11
04-23-2004, 03:07 AM
Okay, I'm hoping you're not suggesting we trade down and select Smiley in the 1st if we can't land Steven Jackson or Kevin Jones at #22.

then who should we get if both of them are off the board????

jamez25
04-23-2004, 04:05 AM
Kevin Jones .... if he is not there trade down and select Perry in the 2nd.

Woods
04-23-2004, 04:23 AM
I think we trade down and we'll choose Carey or Perry.

I hope one of the top 2 guys is there at 22. If so, we'll take one of them. Otherwise, we trade down.

AceofSpades
04-23-2004, 05:32 AM
Whichever RB turns out to be the best is the one i want :D

Mr. (not Jerry) Jones
04-23-2004, 05:43 AM
Reaching into my big bucket of baseless opinions...I predict Shawn Andrews to be the starting right tackle for the boys this year, roadgrading for whatever poor chump has to deal with the pressure of being the feature back for the Dallas Cowboys next year.

and once more the :eek: face because it's just too cool not to use

Woods
04-23-2004, 06:33 AM
Reaching into my big bucket of baseless opinions...I predict Shawn Andrews to be the starting right tackle for the boys this year, roadgrading for whatever poor chump has to deal with the pressure of being the feature back for the Dallas Cowboys next year.

and once more the :eek: face because it's just too cool not to use


Hmmmm . . . . . I think Andrews goes to Miami.

I'm hoping for KJ, but I'm not getting my hopes too high . . . .

MichaelWinicki
04-23-2004, 06:50 AM
Morning Woods.

KJ would be my choice.

Woods
04-23-2004, 07:34 AM
Morning Woods.

KJ would be my choice.
Good Morning, Michael.

Nice Board!

NorthTexan95
04-23-2004, 07:36 AM
I'll say Dallas trades down and picks the best available player with an early second pick (from the trade), probably an offensive lineman, and then a runningback later in the second.

maloy
04-23-2004, 07:44 AM
a DT will be the first pick

RatisBeast
04-23-2004, 07:50 AM
Maloy, i hope not. Well, I wouldn't mind but if we could go RB or WR or even OL i'd rather do that. We need alot more help on the offensive side of the ball. I'm hoping one of the good DT's slides to our 2nd. Or Keith Smith or Batman Carroll is who we get with our 2nd. Too much confusion right now. Tomorrow, can't get here soon enough. :eek:

Tio
04-23-2004, 08:21 AM
I say if Kevin Jones is there at 22, he's ours.
You are correct sir...

Tio
04-23-2004, 08:22 AM
I'll go on record and say we will trade up and take Steven Jackson.
Hey hos...nice site here....(i intend on getting the post count number...)

Tio
04-23-2004, 08:23 AM
A BOLD prediction, TH.

And if it turns out to be correct, I'll jump off a bridge. :p

If Gamble is there at 22, take him. He is raw, but I think he'll make a nice partner for Newman. Those I realize Cowboys fans might be tired of seeing first round picks go on the secondary.

If Gamble is gone, trade down and take Tubbs, Carey, Dockett, Sapoaga, etc, if a few names are still on the value board at 22, and the next few teams drafting re unlikely to take all of them.

There are a host of names that could help us that are values from 22-28, I think.

It won't be glamerous this year. No Jones or Jackson, I think.
Why take gamble...we already have a physically gifted corner who is raw but just needs experience...

LaTunaNostra
04-23-2004, 10:46 AM
Why take gamble...we already have a physically gifted corner who is raw but just needs experience...

RW31, are you saying Hunter has Gamble's potential?

I think if the intent is to take a RB in the later rounds (possibly Bell), and take the best player on the board at 22, if Gamble is there, he can't be passed on. He IS going to need serious coaching up to start this year - the most "ready" CB is said to be Robinson who the Jets seem to be set on.

But at 22 there should be several players who meet both value and need tests. They're just not glamour picks.

All this media and fan talk about Jackson and Jones gives me a bad feeling, like we're being set up for a sucker punch.

Like we don't see a tail til the third. ;)

Then everybody freaks out when it's a Carey of Tubbs or Sapoaga because they're expecting the glitz pick.

But draft day is about disappointment. Period. So it's best to prepare oneself. :rolleyes:


What I've wanted all along, more than anything, is a top notch tailback, but finally reconciled myself that ISN'T happening this year, because there are none in this year's draft. The position will be upgraded but there is nothing remotely resembling a top tier tail on the horizon.

Still, I would be very happy with Jones this year, but don't want to give up two picks for him. Unless something comes in for LA, like a third and sixth.

Jackson isn't worth a pick a whit higher than the 22, imo, so if it ends up him, ok, fine, but it was no steal. It may even have been a reach.

Hostile
04-23-2004, 10:49 AM
Holy crap Hos, I hope you are right about us going after JAckson.

I will do backflips. BACKFLIPS.

Please GOD make it true.

If not Jackson, the bring us Kevin Jones.

Take video please.

OldButDeadly
04-23-2004, 10:50 AM
if we have to go up near the 12-13-14 range, it going to cost too much.
our 1st,2nd and a 4th or 5th round pick.

if he drops around 16-17-18, our 1st and 3rd should do it.

I think any trading by the cowboys will down.

jac

If we move up...I think it will be a personnel trade and pick....

Well...I would be happy with KJ....more happy with SJ

Kev

Roy Williams
04-23-2004, 10:52 AM
I wouldn't mind trading up if we were to get Jackson. But I'm content with staying and picking Jones at #22.

Jerrod Wheeler
04-23-2004, 10:57 AM
I think we trade back if we can find a dance partner to the 25 - 27 pick and probably take one of the linebackers from Miami (DJ Williams or Jonathon Vilma), OT Shawn Andrews, RB Kevin Jones, DE Ogunlea or maybe a CB like Chris Gamble. If the only one of those players available at 22 is a Chris Gamble or a Kevin Jones, we probably trade back a little further if we can. DT would be a consideration but only if someone like Vince Wilfork fell for some reason. If the only one of those listed is Shawn Andrews, then I bet we have a new RT and probably target CB in the second (Joey Thomas or Spencer Shawnlea - big guys with speed). RBs are going to be available in the third and Clarett will still be available in the supplemental draft if we miss on Michael Turner, Cedric Cobbs or Greg Jones (these are my guesses at who Parcells likes). I also think that the RB from Ottawa University in KS (former Fresno State transfer that is 6', 235 and runs a 4.4 forty with lots of wiggle and power) could be a late round consideration or a FA pickup if not drafted. He is all upside although he played against very poor competition.

Mattsdad
04-23-2004, 12:27 PM
Anyone have any insight on how tough this kid K. Jones is? Any insight to his "heart" and "fight"? I just want a RB that fights for each yard and shows the "heart" and "will" that will push his team toward a win.

es22
04-23-2004, 12:32 PM
I say if Kevin Jones is there at 22, he's ours.


He is the game breaker that we lack. SJ wont be available (although he is more of a BP player).


about 28-9 hours until our pick

hogwild
04-23-2004, 01:21 PM
If the Tuna and JJ wants someone to come in and be a starter from the get go...then Chris Gamble is not the man to choose IMO.




finally the voice of reason. :D


shawn andrews with any luck.

chargrove
04-23-2004, 01:47 PM
Why is no one saying Rashaun Woods???? Ummm...excuse me, but our receiving corps is FAR from settled. You can tell me all day that this draft is "so deep in WR's" and "we need a RB so bad", but when a legitimate blue chip big time player comes out who has virtually no weaknesses in his game (which Woods is and does not), I fail to see why he would not be a legit contender for the #22 pick. Yes, I wish this draft were as deep in tailbacks as it is in receivers, but the facts tell us differently and I can't see passing on a homerun skill position player in favor of trading down for something else. Oh so you think Keyshawn and Terry Glenn w/ Bryant at no. 3 has us set at WR?? Please. The sad truth is we have 3 guys who have major questions hanging over their heads regarding their continued ability to make plays. Will Keyshawn and Glenn regain their form? Will Bryant turn into a head case? Can any of these guys step up and be a STUD class option for whoever throws the passes? I think the answer is a very shakey maybe, or even probably not. And don't you think for one second that Parcells doesn't see that. Don't be surprised, Cowboys fans, to see us KEEP that no. 22 pick and go with a WR. I'll be back on Monday to say I told you so or I was wrong. Enjoy the draft.

baj1dallas
04-23-2004, 02:10 PM
Jones is a legitimate pick at 22 and I think he'll be there. Miami will take Andrews if he's still there. I don't think Tampa will take Jones over Reggie Williams, Rashaun Woods, and Lee Evans. Jackson will to either Detroit, Tampa, or Denver. Or even New England would maybe go ahead and take him if he was available.

Rack Bauer
04-23-2004, 02:13 PM
I say if Kevin Jones is there at 22, he's ours.



Shawn Andrews or Chris Perry (in a trade down).

Avery
04-23-2004, 02:13 PM
Kevin Jones. You may as well put your order in now. :)

BulletBob
04-23-2004, 03:27 PM
blah blah blah

Saw the handle and smiled. ;) Took a while to sink in ....

Nice to see you made the jump, Hermie.

Sarge
04-29-2004, 08:23 PM
Hopefully the BPA in round 2. Dallas should trade down. Getting Greg Jones and a highly rated guard will be better than simply getting Steven Jackson.

Pretty close - not bad.