Is Jamaal Charles draft eligible this year?

[hendog]

And if he is do any of you Horns fans think he'll come out this year? I think with his speed he would be a great compliment to MB3. Especially if he could be had in rd 2.

[Doomsday101]

And if he is do any of you Horns fans think he'll come out this year? I think with his speed he would be a great compliment to MB3. Especially if he could be had in rd 2.

Yes this is his last season at Texas and should be around in the 2nd or 3rd rd of the draft. I wish he was getting some better blocking up front at UT so that he could show what he can really do. Last weeks game though really helped his cause.

[CATCH17]

Like my boy Big Bill said no Running Back is worth turnovers and this guy puts the ball on the ground.

Good talent... But no thanks.

[trickblue]

He can't/won't run between the tackles...

Now if he gets outside...

[Doomsday101]

He can't/won't run between the tackles...

Now once/if he gets outside...

He runs between the tackles quite a bit. Most of his run come from between the tackles.

[Mike_45]

He fumbles way to much.

No thanks.

Mike

[joseephuss]

Yes this is his last season at Texas and should be around in the 2nd or 3rd rd of the draft. I wish he was getting some better blocking up front at UT so that he could show what he can really do. Last weeks game though really helped his cause.

He is a junior, so he can go back to Texas next season.

Speed does not mean much if you can't get past the line of scrimmage. Julius has plenty of speed and you can see how well he is doing. And I agree that he puts the ball on the ground too often. He is a 4th rounder in my opinion.

[Rack Bauer]

He runs between the tackles quite a bit. Most of his run come from between the tackles.

Sorry, but the guy doesn't like running between the tackles. The only time he gets yards between the tackles is if he goes virtually untouched.


And round 2? Try DAY 2.

[Bonecrusher#31]

UT Backs lately haven't shown much....just ask Roy..


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/Bonecrusher31/RoyHookEm.jpg

[jordan20]

If he can cure his fumbling problems and he stays for his Senior year he will be a late 1st rounder or early 2nd in 2009. The O-Line for Texas is young (new starters/except for Hills) and not very good this year. I feel that they don't run him outside enough. Just my opinion.

[Doomsday101]

Sorry, but the guy doesn't like running between the tackles. The only time he gets yards between the tackles is if he goes virtually untouched.


And round 2? Try DAY 2.

I have seen plenty of runs the the spread formation where he is taking it right up the middle. As for when he goes in the draft that would be anyone guess. If he comes out this season as joseephuss said he is a jr. In my opinion he should stay at UT another season to help himself

[cobra]

Uh.... round 2?

The guy won't even be drafted. UDFA probably.

[Rack Bauer]

If he can cure his fumbling problems and he stays for his Senior year he will be a late 1st rounder or early 2nd in 2009. The O-Line for Texas is young (new starters/except for Hills) and not very good this year. I feel that they don't run him outside enough. Just my opinion.

Can I quote you on that?

Oh wait, I just did. Teehee.


Yeah I'll be digging this up in the future... when he's a 2nd day pick.

[Rack Bauer]

I have seen plenty of runs the the spread formation where he is taking it right up the middle. As for when he goes in the draft that would be anyone guess. If he comes out this season as joseephuss said he is a jr. In my opinion he should stay at UT another season to help himself

And the only time he does something with it is if he's untouched.


YOu need to watch him more closely, the dude has no huevos. He just doesn't have what it takes to be a starter in the NFL.

And like you said "SPread formation", yeah that's what opens up the holes. Put him in the "I" and run a dive. He'll fold like cheap toilet paper or he'll try to pop it outside. The dude is scared of contact.

[PosterChild]

He's a poor man's Reggie Bush but with almost no moves and has a tough time hanging on to the ball. Not exactly a scholar either.

He might make a good return man or even a third down back with the right team.

[Doomsday101]

And the only time he does something with it is if he's untouched.


YOu need to watch him more closely, the dude has no huevos. He just doesn't have what it takes to be a starter in the NFL.

And like you said "SPread formation", yeah that's what opens up the holes. Put him in the "I" and run a dive. He'll fold like cheap toilet paper or he'll try to pop it outside. The dude is scared of contact.

I watch all the Texas game and your full of it to say he is scared of contact. I agree his biggest problem has been putting the ball on the ground and if he can't correct that it will cause him to drop far in the draft but the as far as his ability to run the ball and catch it out of the back field the kid has some good talent. You are entitled to your opinion of who can make it in the NFL and who can't but I don't agree with you on this.

[CATCH17]

IF you can get him to control his fumble problems he would be a good returner for you. 3rd string RB.

Maybe bring him in on 3rd downs and try to get him in space for a screen, swing pass, etc.....

But he just isnt a guy you want to depend on.

Hes going to give you about the same thing Darren Sproles gives the Chargers at the NFL level.

[Rack Bauer]

I watch all the Texas game and your full of it to say he is scared of contact. I agree his biggest problem has been putting the ball on the ground and if he can't correct that it will cause him to drop far in the draft but the as far as his ability to run the ball and catch it out of the back field the kid has some good talent. You are entitled to your opinion of who can make it in the NFL and who can't but I don't agree with you on this.

:rolleyes:

And people accuse me of insulting others.


First of all, it's MY opinion.

Second of all, I'm not the only one that shares that opinion.

Let me guess, you're a texas fan? You "watch all their games" so I assume you're a texas fan. If so, try taking off the homer goggles next time you watch him. He's got amazing speed, but he is AFRAID of contact. He won't make it in the NFL.

[Doomsday101]

:rolleyes:

And people accuse me of insulting others.


First of all, it's MY opinion.

Second of all, I'm not the only one that shares that opinion.

Let me guess, you're a texas fan? You "watch all their games" so I assume you're a texas fan. If so, try taking off the homer goggles next time you watch him. He's got amazing speed, but he is AFRAID of contact. He won't make it in the NFL.

I am a Texas fan but I don't base my opinion of a player on being a fan or not. I'm a Cowboy fan and could not stand Carter at QB and I'm not overly thrilled with Jones so I can look at players regardless if I like the team or not and make observations of that player. But you are way off base to sit there make remarks of how he is scared of contact? Give me a break RB positon is going to take a lot of contact as does Charles and yet he keeps going.

[DallasCowpoke]

Yes this is his last season at Texas

So, the JUNIOR, called you and told you this personally, huh? 'Cus I sure missed that tidbit in the papers.

FWIW, if he did come out early, he be lucky to sniff the bottom of the 3rd.

[Doomsday101]

So, the JUNIOR, called you and told you this personally, huh? 'Cus I sure missed that tidbit in the papers.

FWIW, if he did come out early, he be lucky to sniff the bottom of the 3rd.

It was my mistake I was thinking it was his Sr. however if you feel the need for the smart ars remake feel free.

[dcowboysfan76]

Charles is ok, he just has a bad case of the fumbles.........it's curable....remember Tiki?? He could replace Thompson IMO.......the only thing I didn't like was the comment he made, "I am going to make people forget Adrian Peterson".....He didn't live up to the hype.....

[DallasCowpoke]

It was my mistake I was thinking it was his Sr. however if you feel the need for the smart ars remake feel free.

There's always the EDIT button.

[CATCH17]

Charles is ok, he just has a bad case of the fumbles.........it's curable....remember Tiki?? He could replace Thompson IMO.......the only thing I didn't like was the comment he made, "I am going to make people forget Adrian Peterson".....He didn't live up to the hype.....

Yeah and Tiki didnt get that crap fixed until the last 2 or 3 years of his career.

[cobra]

I generally want to avoid drafting UT football players. I don't think it is a very good program they run there with respect to developing NFL-caliber talent.

The only player last year from UT that I would have drafted would have been Brian Robinson--but only as a 2nd day pick.

The only players I would draft on the current roster for UT are:
TE Jermichael Finley (but he is a So and probably won't come out for a couple of year; I think he will be a stud when he does)
DT Frank Okam (someone will probably reach for him based on his size and take him higher than I would)
LB Sergio Kindle (he is a So and won't be coming out, but when he does, he is an athletic freak that should be able to get on the field somewhere)

[Doomsday101]

There's always the EDIT button.

I acknowledge that I was wrong when joseephuss said Charles was a JR. and said as much shortly afterwards

“I have seen plenty of runs the the spread formation where he is taking it right up the middle. As for when he goes in the draft that would be anyone guess. If he comes out this season as joseephuss said he is a jr. In my opinion he should stay at UT another season to help himself

I guess you just did not bother to read it.

[DallasCowpoke]

the only thing I didn't like was the comment he made, "I am going to make people forget Adrian Peterson".....He didn't live up to the hype.....

Those 203yrds and 3TD's in the 4th on Sat helped.

[JIMMYBUFFETT]

Charles will be the steal of the draft , and I AM NOT a UT fan . He'll probably get drafted by Denver on day two and run for like 10 billion yards . He's gotten a raw deal in Texas losing 3 of his starting offensive linemen last season , and having a coach who couldn't play call his way out of a paper sack . He'll make somebody in the NFL a nice back .

[hendog]

If a picture is worth 1,000 words then what's this video worth?

Spin it anyway you want to but he's running hard "straight up the gut" and not afraid of contact. Just ask AJ hawk. I could care less if some of you want him. And that's MY OPINION. To me he brings a skill set to the table that our team is lacking.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIe8WsB1KZ8

[InmanRoshi]

Jamal Charles has always reminded me of Julius. He's obviously got some raw talent and speed, he flashes every now and again and if you compile all those plays into one highlight reel he'll look really good ... but when you watch him week in and week out he just is kind of blah. He lacks some sort of intangible .. vision, balance, instincts ... that keeps him from being great.

[dcowboysfan76]

If a picture is worth 1,000 words then what's this video worth?

Spin it anyway you want to but he's running hard "straight up the gut" and not afraid of contact. Just ask AJ hawk. I could care less if some of you want him. And that's MY OPINION. To me he brings a skill set to the table that our team is lacking.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIe8WsB1KZ8

He could either be:
A. A poor man's Bryan Westbrook

OR

B. A nice KR

It's hard to believe that he's 6'1"

[Chocolate Lab]

Didn't he get benched, or at least have his plays reduced a lot, after the OU game?

I wouldn't put any stock in any performance against Nebraska. They're awful and in total disarray right now. (I'm a fan.)

I'm with most of you guys -- Charles has great speed but he's not a good back. He fumbles, doesn't run with power, and just generally looks kind of... Wishy-washy out there. Hard to explain, but maybe you know what I mean.

I think at his best he might be Tatum Bell.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I've thought a lot about Charles. I can understand the fumble concerns because I have them too. However, I go back to something else Parcells said about the question of MBIII starting. When asked why he didn't start MBIII he said, he seriously considered starting him but he didn't feel like he had that change of pace back that could come in and break something for you. He said that you really need two backs that can share the every down load in todays NFL but you also need that guy who can come in and hit a home run for you. A guy like we had in Morris.

Now, I think the problem here for many is that you view Charles as the guy who would come in and be the feature back. Fellas, we already have that guy in Barber. He's our feature back, like it or no. What we need is the guy who can come in and change it up. We need a guy who can take the ball to the house in a blink. Somebody who can be electric in the open field off the short dump off. To me, that's exactly what a guy like Charles could bring to the table. I dont' know if he will be a second round pick or a second day pick. All of this is pie in the sky until the season ends and the combines are completed. However, I'll tell you this. Right now, he's on pace to run for better then 1300 yards, 5.8 YPC, and 15 TDs.

That's not too bad at all considering the Texas OL this year.

[L-O-Jete]

Charles is ok, he just has a bad case of the fumbles.........it's curable....remember Tiki?? He could replace Thompson IMO.......the only thing I didn't like was the comment he made, "I am going to make people forget Adrian Peterson".....He didn't live up to the hype.....

What fumbles?
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=175766

[Doomsday101]

What fumbles?
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=175766

I saw that but I also saw the OU game where Charles fumbled at the 4 yard line and even Charles has said he needs to improve on his ball handling when running in a crowd. I think if Charles can correct this he will have a good chance at making an impact in the NFL. At 6’01” he is not a small RB and is still young enough to add to his frame which he did add some during the off-season as he gave up running track to focus on football.

[dcowboysfan76]

What fumbles?
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=175766

Just because you don't see any being given to the other team doesn't mean that he doesn't fumble........there is a difference in the speed of the NFL players reacting to a fumble versus the college players

[joseephuss]

That is funny that ESPN doesn't have the fumbles stats for him. CBS sportsline does not have his fumbles listed, either.

[L-O-Jete]

Just because you don't see any being given to the other team doesn't mean that he doesn't fumble........there is a difference in the speed of the NFL players reacting to a fumble versus the college players

I want to know what fumbles, I know the site is probably wrong, I don't follow College Football and the Highlights seemed interesting so I would like to know what is considered a fumble problem, how many does he actually have? How many per touch?

[hendog]

I've thought a lot about Charles. I can understand the fumble concerns because I have them too. However, I go back to something else Parcells said about the question of MBIII starting. When asked why he didn't start MBIII he said, he seriously considered starting him but he didn't feel like he had that change of pace back that could come in and break something for you. He said that you really need two backs that can share the every down load in todays NFL but you also need that guy who can come in and hit a home run for you. A guy like we had in Morris.

Now, I think the problem here for many is that you view Charles as the guy who would come in and be the feature back. Fellas, we already have that guy in Barber. He's our feature back, like it or no. What we need is the guy who can come in and change it up. We need a guy who can take the ball to the house in a blink. Somebody who can be electric in the open field off the short dump off. To me, that's exactly what a guy like Charles could bring to the table. I dont' know if he will be a second round pick or a second day pick. All of this is pie in the sky until the season ends and the combines are completed. However, I'll tell you this. Right now, he's on pace to run for better then 1300 yards, 5.8 YPC, and 15 TDs.

That's not too bad at all considering the Texas OL this year.

Nice explanation. That's what I was talking about as an explosive, change of pace back. Draws, screens, flairs out of the backfeild, split out. Not pounding the ball 30 times a game tween the tackles. That's MB3's job.

We need an infusion of real speed on this team on both sides of the ball.

[joseephuss]

I want to know what fumbles, I know the site is probably wrong, I don't follow College Football and the Highlights seemed interesting so I would like to know what is considered a fumble problem, how many does he actually have? How many per touch?

Unfortunately none of the sports sites list his fumbles or any players from what I can see. Too many is my guess. I bet if we could get access to the number of fumbles to the number of touches, they would support that he is a fumbler. Even his supporters acknowledge that he is one. I don't like him on the first day, but he would be a decent pick on the second day. Although I prefer backs that have a stronger lower body for the pro-game. Charles has small legs much like Julius Jones. Emmitt Smith had thicker legs. I do agree that he would be brought in as the change of pace guy to Barber and not as a feature back.

[Doomsday101]

Unfortunately none of the sports sites list his fumbles or any players from what I can see. Too many is my guess. I bet if we could get access to the number of fumbles to the number of touches, they would support that he is a fumbler. Even his supporters acknowledge that he is one. I don't like him on the first day, but he would be a decent pick on the second day. Although I prefer backs that have a stronger lower body for the pro-game. Charles has small legs much like Julius Jones. Emmitt Smith had thicker legs. I do agree that he would be brought in as the change of pace guy to Barber and not as a feature back.

Charles has big upper legs as most sprinters do. As the big 12 100 meters champ the guy also has better speed than Jones and is more fluid out of the backfield on passing routs and has good hands

[L-O-Jete]

Charles has big upper legs as most sprinters do. As the big 12 100 meters champ the guy also has better speed than Jones and is more fluid out of the backfield on passing routs and has good hands

IF he can return punts I´d take him in the 2nd day for sure.

[Doomsday101]

IF he can return punts I´d take him in the 2nd day for sure.

If he is smart he will return to the Longhorns for another year. I think if he does that he will have a chance to change minds and boost his stock in the draft.