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jterrell
10-31-2007, 10:19 AM
wow I dig this guy!!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/31/kucinich-questions-bushs-mental-health/

(CNN) — Strong words from Democratic presidential contender Dennis Kucinich may be nothing new, but his comments to a newspaper Tuesday questioning President Bush’s mental health are raising a few eyebrows.

“I seriously believe we have to start asking questions about his mental health," the Ohio congressman told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "There's something wrong. He does not seem to understand his words have real impact."

Kucinich's comments were in reference to the president's recent remarks on Iran, in which he suggested World War III could occur if the country obtained nuclear capabilities.

“I've told people that, if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon," Bush said at a news conference earlier this month.

The Democratic presidential candidate later said he does not consider questioning the Bush's mental health inappropriate, according the Inquirer's Web site.

“You cannot be a President of the United States who's wanton in his expression of violence," Kucinich said. "There's a lot of people who need care. He might be one of them. If there isn't something wrong with him, then there's something wrong with us. This, to me, is a very serious question."

A Republican National Committee spokesman called the comments "absurd and irresponsible."

zrinkill
10-31-2007, 10:24 AM
So saying Iran could start World War 3 if they had nuclear weapons is wrong?

I think Bush is right in those remarks.

Doomsday101
10-31-2007, 10:42 AM
So saying Iran could start World War 3 if they had nuclear weapons is wrong?

I think Bush is right in those remarks.

I agree.I think it is naive to think otherwise.

jterrell
10-31-2007, 11:04 AM
So saying Iran could start World War 3 if they had nuclear weapons is wrong?

I think Bush is right in those remarks.

I think that is wrong.
While I am all for preventing them from building nukes, fact is nukes are not gonna target us or anyone else without severe repercussions. Heck, we won't use them now and have more power than anyone. We'd love to be given half an excuse to nuke someone. Iran is crazy but not stupid.

Korea and China have had nukes for how long?

Its not all happy capitalists with Nuke technology.

peplaw06
10-31-2007, 11:21 AM
I think that is wrong.
While I am all for preventing them from building nukes, fact is nukes are not gonna target us or anyone else without severe repercussions. Heck, we won't use them now and have more power than anyone. We'd love to be given half an excuse to nuke someone. Iran is crazy but not stupid.

Korea and China have had nukes for how long?

Its not all happy capitalists with Nuke technology.Why are you for preventing them from gaining nuclear capabilities if you aren't worried about how they would use it?

Sasquatch
10-31-2007, 11:40 AM
I would leave that sort of hyperbolic rhetoric to the Fox Newses of the world. The president should be more dignified and reserved in his pronouncements. "Destabilize the region" or "involve the broader world in a regional conflict" would have been perfectly sufficient. This sort of rhetoric is the product of fear mongering coupled with an inability to behave or speak in a statesman-like manner.

I think raising the specter of WWIII is the height of irresponsibility, as it drastically ratchets up the tension of an already volatile situation. It's worthy of the likes of Ahmadinejad not the POTUS.

BrAinPaiNt
10-31-2007, 11:44 AM
I would leave that sort of hyperbolic rhetoric to the Fox Newses of the world. The president should be more dignified and reserved in his pronouncements. "Destabilize the region" or "involve the broader world in a regional conflict" would have been perfectly sufficient. This sort of rhetoric is the product of fear mongering coupled with an inability to behave or speak in a statesman-like manner.

I think raising the specter of WWIII is the height of irresponsibility, as it drastically ratchets up the tension of an already volatile situation. It's worthy of the likes of Ahmadinejad not the POTUS.

Ding Ding Ding.

This smacks further of the...Axis of Evil talks some time back.

It is one thing to prepare for things, it is another to keep throwing out fear tactics.

This is reminiscent of Obama, I think it was Obama, that we should go into pakistan without permission to get the terrorists because Pakistan's president was not doing enough. Sure we all may think it, but it is not something you just throw out there to the public IMO.

trickblue
10-31-2007, 11:56 AM
While I don't know about Bush's mental health, I have often wondered about Kucinich's...

BrAinPaiNt
10-31-2007, 11:57 AM
While I don't know about Bush's mental health, I have often wondered about Kucinich's...

You don't have to wonder...he IS a nutbag. A nutbag with a hot wife.:laugh2:

trickblue
10-31-2007, 11:59 AM
You don't have to wonder...he IS a nutbag. A nutbag with a hot wife.:laugh2:

That's for sure...

I wish I could find the clip of him talking with the Syrian reporter. Talk about learning to keep your mouth shut...

BrAinPaiNt
10-31-2007, 12:01 PM
That's for sure...

I wish I could find the clip of him talking with the Syrian reporter. Talk about learning to keep your mouth shut...

They made fun of him in the debate last night. About him seeing a UFO.

This morning on fox news someone had photoshopped an image of his head on Fox Mulders body with Scully next to him from an X-Files picture. Pretty funny.

Sasquatch
10-31-2007, 12:07 PM
While I don't know about Bush's mental health, I have often wondered about Kucinich's...

Slash the bloated military budget and abandon the doctrine of preemption in favor of soft power and diplomacy, devoting more resources to education, health care, and a sustainable energy economy. And his was the only analysis of Iraq was DEAD ON when it actually counted and consistently opposed the venture ever since. A complete and utter whack job, I tell you. ;)

Sasquatch
10-31-2007, 12:15 PM
They made fun of him in the debate last night. About him seeing a UFO.

This morning on fox news someone had photoshopped an image of his head on Fox Mulders body with Scully next to him from an X-Files picture. Pretty funny.

Yeah, I love how mediots like Russert set that up (an obvious hatchet job for his GE paymasters since DK is gaining traction in places like NH where he is running 4th with 7% support) only for other media outlets to run with the story today as if it's something truly newsworthy. Dick Cheney citing Judith Miller couldn't have been any shrewder. Of course, never mind all the documented cases of pilots who have claimed to see similar objects while logging hours in the skies. But, I suppose next to candidates who routinely say that all options are on the table with respect to Iran (code for using nukes), such an admission sounds positively outlandish.

There's a reason the media goes out of its way to marginalize and humiliate candidates like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. It's because they are the ones offering substantive change, albeit from different ends of the political spectrum, that will shift the emphasize of government from Wall Street to Main Street.

trickblue
10-31-2007, 12:16 PM
A complete and utter whack job, I tell you. ;)

We agree!!!! ;)

Sasquatch
10-31-2007, 12:25 PM
We agree!!!! ;)

I meant whack job in the Shakesperean sense of being a fool, of course.

Why give any props to the only candidate running for president who was right about Iraq? He exercised good judgment, stood by his convictions in taking an extremely unpopular stance, and has been proven correct by events. And yet the media who were totally taken in by the bogus Bush-Cheney propaganda has the gall to ridicule DK?

You can fool some people some time ... but you can't fool all the people all the time. :D

trickblue
10-31-2007, 12:35 PM
I meant whack job in the Shakesperean sense of being a fool, of course.
Of course I knew what you meant... I was having a little fun...

Why give any props to the only candidate running for president who was right about Iraq? He exercised good judgment, stood by his convictions in taking an extremely unpopular stance, and has been proven correct by events. And yet the media who were totally taken in by the bogus Bush-Cheney propaganda has the gall to ridicule DK?

We are never going to agree on the majority of things sass... You see things your way, I see them my way. It's what makes this country great...

You can fool some people some time ... but you can't fool all the people all the time. :D

We agree again... :D

Sasquatch
10-31-2007, 12:50 PM
Of course I knew what you meant... I was having a little fun...



We are never going to agree on the majority of things sass... You see things your way, I see them my way. It's what makes this country great...



We agree again... :D

While I always respect the decision to disagree amicably, I'm not sure how anyone (who is being intellectually honest :D) could argue that Kucinich's pre-invasion claim that the administration was grossly exaggerating Iraq's WMD capacity did not demonstrate sound judgment and discernment at a critical moment when others showed a serious lack thereof. It's a demonstrable fact: he was right and nearly every other presidential candidate with the exception of Ron Paul was wrong.

I guess exercising good judgment when it counts and taking an unpopular stance that is vindicated by events simply isn't enough to win even the begrudging esteem of some people.

trickblue
10-31-2007, 01:06 PM
While I always respect the decision to disagree amicably, I'm not sure how anyone (who is being intellectually honest :D) could argue that Kucinich's pre-invasion claim that the administration was grossly exaggerating Iraq's WMD capacity did not demonstrate sound judgment and discernment at a critical moment when others showed a serious lack thereof. It's a demonstrable fact: he was right and nearly every other presidential candidate with the exception of Ron Paul was wrong.

I guess exercising good judgment when it counts and taking an unpopular stance that is vindicated by events simply isn't enough to win even the begrudging esteem of some people.

You are right when you say "many others". Obviously our intelligence was very poor and had been for some time. If you remember correctly the Clinton admin espoused practically the same reports.

Just because he got that right doesn't mean he's not a nutjob. Does he not believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy?

and cue AnyGivenSunday... :D

Sasquatch
10-31-2007, 01:19 PM
You are right when you say "many others". Obviously our intelligence was very poor and had been for some time. If you remember correctly the Clinton admin espoused practically the same reports.

Just because he got that right doesn't mean he's not a nutjob. Does he not believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy?

and cue AnyGivenSunday... :D

Hmm...not sure how the Clinton administration bears on a discussion about DK but I'll chalk up the reference to an intellectual twitch of sorts. ;)

As for DK, contrary to all appearances, I'm not his official spokesperson on this forum, so I don't know if he thinks 9/11 was a conspiracy or not.

jterrell
10-31-2007, 01:42 PM
Why are you for preventing them from gaining nuclear capabilities if you aren't worried about how they would use it?

Because its a tool to use in negotiation.

Why did the US and Russia build up expensive military arsenals when neither was going to go to war in 60/70s?

burmafrd
10-31-2007, 05:10 PM
Jterrel, I find your lack of knowledge of history to be pretty sad, Before you make statements like that, study a little history. I think you can learn- I gave up on sasqie a long time ago.