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Rack Bauer
11-13-2007, 05:27 PM
So you want to work for the Clinton 's

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Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has
happened to many "friends" of the Clinton 's

1-James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater partner died
of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement.
He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and colleague of Hillary
Clinton at Little Rock 's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close
to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of
Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death
Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness
to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane
also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed
suicide.

5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising
organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992

6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor".

7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock . Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton . He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent
hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head.
It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancé of Kathy Ferguson.
Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancé, he was found dead in June,
1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his
fiancé.

13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14-Florence Martin - Accountant & subcontractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mean Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16-Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992 . She died in a one car accident.

17- Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mean Airport and ArkansasDevelopment Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington, DCapartment. Had delivered a report
to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993 . He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996 . Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21- Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton 's mother, stepfather and brother.

23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no
accident.

24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a
purported suicide and his report was never released.

26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

27- Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.


THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".

34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his
pickup truck in June 1990.

35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
39-Sgt. Tim Sabel
40-Major General William Robertson
41-Col. William Densberger
42-Col. Robert Kelly
43-Spec. Gary Rhodes
44-Steve Willis
45-Robert Williams
46-Conway LeBleu
47-Todd McKeehan

peplaw06
11-13-2007, 07:53 PM
This is chilling.

BrAinPaiNt
11-13-2007, 08:29 PM
This is chilling.

Would be if it were true...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

Rack Bauer
11-13-2007, 08:42 PM
Would be if it were true...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

Actually I didn't see anything in that link that actually disproves anything. Not that the list "proves" anything in the first place.

iceberg
11-13-2007, 08:44 PM
Would be if it were true...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

it's amazing what people will let themselves believe. esp. about someone they hate.

iceberg
11-13-2007, 08:45 PM
Actually I didn't see anything in that link that actually disproves anything. Not that the list "proves" anything in the first place.

no more questions your honor.

BrAinPaiNt
11-13-2007, 08:49 PM
Actually I didn't see anything in that link that actually disproves anything. Not that the list "proves" anything in the first place.

Then I take it you did not read it all.

Rack Bauer
11-13-2007, 08:58 PM
Then I take it you did not read it all.

Getting defensive? I don't care either way. I just posted it cuz I thought it was interesting.


A lot of what was said in that link wasn't factual, it was opinion. Just like the list itself is opinion. I'm not a democrat or republican and I couldn't care less about any of that stuff. Just thought it was interesting, and IMO, it still is interesting.

:starspin

BrAinPaiNt
11-13-2007, 09:01 PM
Getting defensive? I don't care either way. I just posted it cuz I thought it was interesting.


A lot of what was said in that link wasn't factual, it was opinion. Just like the list itself is opinion. I'm not a democrat or republican and I couldn't care less about any of that stuff. Just thought it was interesting, and IMO, it still is interesting.

:starspin

Not defensive at all...it would just appear you did not read it all.

iceberg
11-13-2007, 09:30 PM
Getting defensive? I don't care either way. I just posted it cuz I thought it was interesting.


A lot of what was said in that link wasn't factual, it was opinion. Just like the list itself is opinion. I'm not a democrat or republican and I couldn't care less about any of that stuff. Just thought it was interesting, and IMO, it still is interesting.

:starspin

then hang out on snopes.com and you'll see pt barnum get proven correct.

jman
11-13-2007, 09:31 PM
Yep...a huge list and the possible start of the ensessive bashing between the parties...

I hated when this crap started and now there seems to be no end in sight.

CowboyJeff
11-13-2007, 09:55 PM
Been there, done that. Glad I'm not one of those names. :)

silverbear
11-14-2007, 01:12 AM
Actually I didn't see anything in that link that actually disproves anything. Not that the list "proves" anything in the first place.


Your list is the product of some paranoid conspiracy theorists, and utterly worthless, Rack... I can't believe you were taken in by it...

Hos' link does a fine job of rebutting this nonsense, but I came across a little tidbit about the "bullet wound" allegedy found in Ron Brown's head... seems that "bullet wound" didn't PENETRATE THE SKULL at all... a REAL bullet would surely have done so... the forensic experts studying the crash concluded that hole was actually caused by a flying bolt or screw that glanced off of his head during the crash...

As has been noted, when you're in the public spotlight like the Clintons have been for decades, you're gonna have an unusually high number of "acquaintances"... which naturally means that you've gonna have an unusually high number of acquaintances who have died...

And as has also been noted, Slick Willie couldn't even get away with gettin' his knob polished in the Oval Office, yet you'd have us believe that he and his wife orchestrated this lengthy series of MURDERS??

Yeah, that's REAL believable...

silverbear
11-14-2007, 01:13 AM
Getting defensive? I don't care either way. I just posted it cuz I thought it was interesting.


A lot of what was said in that link wasn't factual, it was opinion. Just like the list itself is opinion. I'm not a democrat or republican and I couldn't care less about any of that stuff. Just thought it was interesting, and IMO, it still is interesting.

:starspin

Only if you're interested in BS...

silverbear
11-14-2007, 01:16 AM
Yep...a huge list and the possible start of the ensessive bashing between the parties...

Actually, lists like that go back at least as far as the Kennedy assassination... you can probably still find a lengthy list of folks connected to that investigation (in a lot of cases, just BARELY connected) who subsequently died under what was represented as "mysterious" circumstances...

The truth is, most of 'em died of perfectly normal, understandable ailments or accidents... as is the case with the Clinton list...

burmafrd
11-14-2007, 05:40 AM
ALL those people on the first list ARE dead, right? So however they died, it does seem to be unhealthy to hang around the Clintons.

BrAinPaiNt
11-14-2007, 05:51 AM
ALL those people on the first list ARE dead, right? So however they died, it does seem to be unhealthy to hang around the Clintons.

As unhealthy as being under the command of a war time president?

burmafrd
11-14-2007, 05:54 AM
Find a list similiar to this one dealing with bush then you can talk brain.

ConcordCowboy
11-14-2007, 06:07 AM
As unhealthy as being under the command of a war time president?

Beat me to it.

Just a few more people have died as a direct result of President Bush's desicion to go to War with Iraq, than ever died under President Clinton.


http://antiwar.com/casualties/

Rackat
11-14-2007, 07:51 AM
As unhealthy as being under the command of a war time president?
Which war time President? Washington? Jackson? Lincoln? Wilson? Roosevelt? Truman? Kennedy? Johnson? Nixon? Bush I? Bush II?

Which one had the most deaths under their watch? IIRC, it was Lincoln. BTW, I am not arguing "for" a particular President, just pointing out that there were a lot of them.

BrAinPaiNt
11-14-2007, 08:33 AM
Which war time President? Washington? Jackson? Lincoln? Wilson? Roosevelt? Truman? Kennedy? Johnson? Nixon? Bush I? Bush II?

Which one had the most deaths under their watch? IIRC, it was Lincoln. BTW, I am not arguing "for" a particular President, just pointing out that there were a lot of them.

Any wartime president.

I would also bet you could make a list for any non war time president as well.

It's what conspiracy theorists do.

paladin78749
11-14-2007, 09:29 AM
When I last visited Snopes I came across this:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp
Dumbfounded that I'd never heard of it.
sad story

jterrell
11-14-2007, 09:32 AM
ALL those people on the first list ARE dead, right? So however they died, it does seem to be unhealthy to hang around the Clintons.

Exactly how many of these people "hung around" the Clintons????

Clinton has had over 10K employees and yet this list has what 3 actual employees on it? He has had a few thousand interns and there is 1 on it? He has hundreds, potentially thousands of business partners, mostly of them in their 60's by now and yet maybe 10 of them are on the list.

All this list says is some idiot had too much time on their hands and some more idiots took it seriously.

George Bush owned the Texas Rangers when many players were taking steroids. Bush steroid conspirator?

jterrell
11-14-2007, 09:36 AM
When I last visited Snopes I came across this:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp
Dumbfounded that I'd never heard of it.
sad story

You haven't heard it because unlike the Clinton's there is actual policy to assail with Bush.

It is certainly a more direct cause of death and stronger tie than anyone on that Clinton list.

Rack Bauer
11-14-2007, 10:27 AM
Rack... I can't believe you were taken in by it...

Who said I was?


Again, thought it was interesting, that's all.


I couldn't care less if it's true or not, just thought it was interesting. And yes, even if it is BS.

Sasquatch and Nellie are BS too, yet I also find those type of things to be interesting.

BrAinPaiNt
11-14-2007, 11:41 AM
Who said I was?


Again, thought it was interesting, that's all.


I couldn't care less if it's true or not, just thought it was interesting. And yes, even if it is BS.

Sasquatch and Nellie are BS too, yet I also find those type of things to be interesting.

I like older conspiracy theory type stuff...JFK and some other things like isreal firing on a naval ship and so on.

Some of these newer ones give me tired head.

The sad part of these things are that there are probably some very small kernels of truth hidden in there somewhere but these guys go so overboard that nobody will believe them even if there is that small tidbit of truth.

In other words I think they do more damage to the truth coming out than they do helping it.

paladin78749
11-14-2007, 11:48 AM
I couldn't care less if it's true or not, just thought it was interesting. And yes, even if it is BS.



Whenever I hear that phrase I always think of someone buying a copy of the National Inquirer

silverbear
11-14-2007, 11:03 PM
I like older conspiracy theory type stuff...JFK and some other things like isreal firing on a naval ship and so on.

As a general rule, I find conspiracy theorists to be morons... all of 'em...

Well, except for the one that said that Paul Tagliabue was stickin' it to the Cowboys because he was a Redskins season ticket holder... :D

trickblue
11-15-2007, 01:27 AM
Well, except for the one that said that Paul Tagliabue was stickin' it to the Cowboys because he was a Redskins season ticket holder... :D

No conspiracy there... we all know that one is true... the bastid... ;)