Respect THIS culture?

[burmafrd]

We keep hearing from the Libs how we should respect other cultures (which is a real joke since those same libs have no respect for our own). I will NEVER respect a culture like this:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/12/03/sudan.teacher/index.html

[jterrell]

something tells me burm if a dude wearing a turban named his monkey you'd be all up in arms....

liberals are a wide and varied lot, they are hardly in lockstep on how they feel about muslims.

most liberals would actually say you can't take god too seriously and would shake their head in disbelief at the sudanese extremists.

every time you post in this forum god kills a kitten. :laugh2:

[burmafrd]

as usual Jterrel lives in the land of OZ.
I am not religious at all- have not been in a church for maybe 20 years. I could care less if someone named a monkey . For those idiots in Sudan to act that way tells me they are very insecure in their beliefs. If your belief is threatened by someone naming a teddy bear after your prophet, it does not say much about the strength of your beliefs, does it.
Most liberals do not believe in god at all- judging from the ACLU and others anyway. That is their problem; but they have no right to force their way of doing things on anyone else. that is the hypocrisy of liberals- they claim to be for freedom but they are the ones always wanting more restrictions and more laws limiting freedom.

[BrAinPaiNt]

as usual Jterrel lives in the land of OZ.
I am not religious at all- have not been in a church for maybe 20 years. I could care less if someone named a monkey . For those idiots in Sudan to act that way tells me they are very insecure in their beliefs. If your belief is threatened by someone naming a teddy bear after your prophet, it does not say much about the strength of your beliefs, does it.
Most liberals do not believe in god at all- judging from the ACLU and others anyway. That is their problem; but they have no right to force their way of doing things on anyone else. that is the hypocrisy of liberals- they claim to be for freedom but they are the ones always wanting more restrictions and more laws limiting freedom.

Insecure like Oreilly and his war on christmas mantra? Or towns that refuses to celebrate halloween but instead call it beggars night?

Don't get me wrong...I think all of this stuff about having your religion offended for this or that is crap.

[jterrell]

December 03, 2007
Facing Down a Bullying Mob
By David Warren

Let us not be timid in the face of bullying.

I am thinking of the mob that formed in Khartoum yesterday, after Friday prayers in the mosques, demanding the execution of a British schoolteacher who was arrested by Sudan's ruling Islamist junta. Gillian Gibbons has already been "tried," and jailed 15 days, by one of this regime's kangaroo courts.

She was found guilty of "insulting Islam," and barely escaped forty lashes or worse -- for what? For having named a class teddy bear "Mohammad," in complete innocence, at the suggestion of one of her pupils, whose own name is Mohammad, and who, after she was charged, bravely stood up to defend her. In other words, a wilful misunderstanding, in which the wilful misunderstanders are calling for blood.

From the BBC's reports, we read the signs and hear the shouts from that mass rally: "No tolerance." "Execution." "Kill her." "Kill her by firing squad," etc. The paradox is that the idea of "zero tolerance" came from the politically-correct West, just as the idea of "tolerance" came from the civilized West before the era of political correctness.

The British Foreign Office is naturally on the case, and doing what it can to free Mrs Gibbons, and get her out of that murderously dysfunctional country, which anyone of charitable intention (teachers, missionaries, the deliverers of food aid, invited foreign "peacekeeping" troops) enters at his own risk. A country in which slavery is still openly practised, and slave raids against Christians and Animists have been documented. Let us not be diplomatic when speaking of Sudan, or of the vicious government that has created not only the conditions for massacre and rapine, but also, the administrative problems that have followed from these. And which expects the world to solve its problems.

Alternatively, I am thinking of the violent mobs that have formed repeatedly in Calcutta, demanding the execution, or in the case of some moderates only the flogging and incarceration, of Taslima Nasreem. She is a witty feminist author from Bangladesh, whose memoir, Dwikhondito ("Split in Two," published in 2003) contained several remarks which fanatics consider to be derogatory to Islam. The government of West Bengal had already banned the book, in deference to the state's Muslim minority. And now, at the demand of the union government in Delhi, Ms Nasreem has agreed to remove two pages from editions of the book available elsewhere. She has required heavy security and been whisked from one hiding place to another, around India.

Yet as the eminent Bengali artist, Shuvaprassana, has said: "This is a compromise that she has been forced into for the sake of getting refuge. But if she can drop two pages to get refuge in India, she can drop three pages and go back to Bangladesh."

This remark conveys more than first appears. Obviously, no matter what Ms Nasreem does, she cannot return to Bangladesh. The point to be read between Shuvraprassana's lines is that if we don't make our stand where we are standing, there is no end to retreat. The defence of freedom demands that we make no concessions -- no concessions at all -- to a bullying mob. And should people in the mob wish to impale themselves on the pikes of lawful authority, let them.

My third example of bullying is a more subtle one. It is from the conference at Annapolis this week, and could be seen on television, by any perceptive person. Naturally, it was widely noticed in Israel, but not elsewhere. The royal Saudi delegates not only did not politely applaud, as is the genteel custom, after the Israeli delegate spoke. They had declined to put in their earphones, to hear the translation while that delegate spoke. From a party to actual peace negotiations, comes this rude gesture to announce that nothing a representative of Israel could say would be worth hearing.

After the conference, the Israeli foreign minister, Tzipi Livni, whose national affiliation is compounded by the fact she is a woman, made an unprecedented public complaint. She said that none of the Arab foreign ministers would shake her hand; that she was treated as a pariah. Or as Frans Timmermans put it -- a Dutch government minister who was in attendance -- they "shun her like she is Count Dracula's younger sister."

The questions should ask themselves: Why do we treat Arab foreign ministers diplomatically, who are themselves incapable of diplomacy? Why do we confer dignities upon Saudi royalty who will confer no dignity upon our friends?

These are fair questions, to be asked boldly.
otiosus@sympatico.ca

[iceberg]

this is much of what i was saying in the Merry Christmas thread.

i'm all about respecting someone elses religion. but that doesn't mean i have to put away my own religion and traditions. i shouldn't alter what i do cause they came over *here* where so much is established.

not out to be rude, just not giving up my rights for someone else to enjoy theirs. middleground people.

[CowboyPrincess]

every time you post in this forum god kills a kitten. :laugh2:

I hate cats with a passion. Can y'all egg burmafrd on a few million more times so we can get control on the population of those nasty car paint scratching critters :pray:

I'm tired of being the one trying to control them with my cars tires ... j/k

[jterrell]

I hate cats with a passion. Can y'all egg burmafrd on a few million more times so we can get control on the population of those nasty car paint scratching critters :pray:

I'm tired of being the one trying to control them with my cars tires ... j/k

lol, yea i have paw prints on my hood right now:(

i have dogs, my dogs must suck because the cats still ge ton my hood parked right by the fenced yard with the dogs.

i need one of Vick's 'winners' i guess.

[CowboyPrincess]

lol, yea i have paw prints on my hood right now:(

i have dogs, my dogs must suck because the cats still ge ton my hood parked right by the fenced yard with the dogs.

i need one of Vick's 'winners' i guess.

I wonder if there are any winners left???? I'd even go for a loser but we all know they lost dramatically.

I use to have a dog and she was great at keeping people away but Whiskey Trip couldn't scare a cat to save her life. She was cats best friend. She would fight a dog to save a cat... :o:

[jterrell]

I wonder if there are any winners left???? I'd even go for a loser but we all know they lost dramatically.

I use to have a dog and she was great at keeping people away but Whiskey Trip couldn't scare a cat to save her life. She was cats best friend. She would fight a dog to save a cat... :o:

rofl... is that like riding a horse to save a cowboy:)

[BrAinPaiNt]

I have seen one cat in our neighborhood in the last 5 years.:D

[burmafrd]

I love cats. They are so much smarter then dogs its not even funny.
Try and get a cat to fetch a stick; they will look at you with SUCH contempt its hilarious.

[jterrell]

I love cats. They are so much smarter then dogs its not even funny.
Try and get a cat to fetch a stick; they will look at you with SUCH contempt its hilarious.

i think that means you are ghey:) jk.

(then again hitler was ...)

never trust a grown man who likes cats more than dogs.
nfl teams wouldn't draft you for that.. lol(actually the last point is serious, some teams use that as a psychological question)

[ConcordCowboy]

never trust a grown man who likes cats more than dogs.


Never trust anyone who hates Cats or ANY animal with a passion.

Cats are great...but so are Dogs.:D

[Jarv]

this is much of what i was saying in the Merry Christmas thread.

i'm all about respecting someone elses religion. but that doesn't mean i have to put away my own religion and traditions. i shouldn't alter what i do cause they came over *here* where so much is established.

not out to be rude, just not giving up my rights for someone else to enjoy theirs. middleground people.

You da man Jerry !

Sorry if X'mas offends some out there, but I'm not gonna stop saying Merry X'mas. Maybe some of you need to watch Miracle on 34th street.

If a person of another faith, or no faith at all, wish me well due to a holiday or belief I would smile back and wish them the same.

Frankly, I'm more offended from liberals who try to tell me what I can express to others. Its all good will fools.

[iceberg]

You da man Jerry !

Sorry if X'mas offends some out there, but I'm not gonna stop saying Merry X'mas. Maybe some of you need to watch Miracle on 34th street.

If a person of another faith, or no faith at all, wish me well due to a holiday or belief I would smile back and wish them the same.

Frankly, I'm more offended from liberals who try to tell me what I can express to others. Its all good will fools.

when you get so anal your words mean what *they* want them to mean vs. what you meant, you've gone way too far onto the dangerous side of PC. it tries to say you can make everyone happy. you can't. won't happen. silly goal. sometimes life sucks and *we* need to understand that and learn to roll and adjust.

grow some skin.

but no. someone new to the country who feels out of place should have the world change for their singular view.