Steve Slaton vs. Johnathon Stewart [Archive] - Dallas Cowboys Forum

jchocolate82

12-10-2007, 10:11 PM

I dont want to hear anything in this thread about McFadden because I dont think we're gonna pony up that much to move up to get him (as much as I would love to have him). I just want to hear your oppinions on these two on who would be a better fit or compliment to the offense and the Barbarian. I personally would love to have Stewart, I've been following him since he was a prep in Washington State. He would bring some tough running and power to go along with MB3, but maybe slatons slashing style would better suit the run game to add what jones hasn't really consistantly added. What are your thoughts on this?

theogt

12-10-2007, 10:12 PM

Neither. If we absolutely must have a RB that early, I'd trade down and take Tashard Choice.

ThreeSportStar80

12-10-2007, 10:12 PM

Jonathan Stewart runs with speed and power, I like him behind that big O-line... But I like Mendanhall a little better from the Univ of Illinois.

Achozen

12-10-2007, 10:18 PM

I don't think Slaton will be a good pro. I'll take Stewart.

ThreeSportStar80

12-10-2007, 10:22 PM

Here's a list of all the rivals top ranked pro prospects...

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=719772

jchocolate82

12-10-2007, 10:26 PM

Jonathan Stewart runs with speed and power, I like him behind that big O-line... But I like Mendanhall a little better from the Univ of Illinois.

That is one thing that is very misleading about him and people dont realize he's a big pack that can plow through the line and is tough to take down but he also runs like a 4.4 forty. I still remember watching a game this season where it took literally 6 defenders to bring him down and they still didnt when the refs had to call the play over. He can also return KO which would be an added bonus

Bob Sacamano

12-10-2007, 10:31 PM

Neither. If we absolutely must have a RB that early, I'd trade down and take Tashard Choice.

:rolleyes: Stewart>>>Choice

theogt

12-10-2007, 10:33 PM

:rolleyes: Stewart>>>Choicehttp://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7450/iwinzd8.png

Bob Sacamano

12-10-2007, 10:35 PM

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7450/iwinzd8.png

haha, touch...

theogt

12-10-2007, 10:41 PM

haha, touch...Touch is what you do to yourself. Touche is what you say after I own you.

smarta5150

12-10-2007, 10:45 PM

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7450/iwinzd8.png

Touch is what you do to yourself. Touche is what you say after I own you.

Summer...

http://www.dragonballyee.com/blogpics/2004/09September/royjonesjr.jpg

tyke1doe

12-10-2007, 10:46 PM

That is one thing that is very misleading about him and people dont realize he's a big pack that can plow through the line and is tough to take down but he also runs like a 4.4 forty. I still remember watching a game this season where it took literally 6 defenders to bring him down and they still didnt when the refs had to call the play over. He can also return KO which would be an added bonus

Guys, please remember to use proper nouns before you launch into a post using pronouns and you haven't identified the noun that corresponds with the pronoun.

Who are you talking about, Stewart or Mendenhall?

If Stewart, I think Seattle has its eyes on him. Shaun Alexander is possibly done in Seattle, and they need a replacement.

Bob Sacamano

12-10-2007, 10:51 PM

Touch is what you do to yourself. Touche is what you say after I own you.

lol, you own me in your dreams and wake up and apologize

Bob Sacamano

12-10-2007, 10:55 PM

Summer...

http://www.dragonballyee.com/blogpics/2004/09September/royjonesjr.jpg

ask theo if we run a zone-blitz

talk about ownage

smarta5150

12-10-2007, 10:56 PM

ask theo if we run a zone-blitz

talk about ownage

http://monsterden.net/madden/images/34assault-wavezoneblitz400.png

theogt

12-10-2007, 11:08 PM

ask theo if we run a zone-blitz

talk about ownagehttp://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1591724&postcount=278

Oh, that's you admitting I was right.

Bob Sacamano

12-10-2007, 11:10 PM

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1591724&postcount=278

Oh, that's you admitting I was right.

lol

"zone coverage has little to do w/ a zone-blitz"

we blitz while the D is in zone coverage, zone blitz, I was right, you were wrong

Bonecrusher#31

12-10-2007, 11:14 PM

i'd rather have Patrick Allen.....Sooners

masomenos

12-11-2007, 04:24 AM

Id like to see us spend a 3rd or 4th rounder on a guy like Dantrell Savage from Oklahoma St. Seems like he's be a perfect complimentary back to Barber. He ran in the 4.3s when timed at junior college then entered the Big 12 and was a very productive back.

9 straight 100+ yard games, 11 of the last 13 games. Only 2 games under 5 ypc this season. Decent hands out of the backfield and a threat in space. Wouldn't cost a ton (thus allowing us to resign Barber) and wouldn't take a bunch of carries away from Marion either.

Plus our backfield would be The Barbarion and The Savage.

This would give us a potentially upgraded RB situation while still having our first 3 or 4 picks to address other issues.

Woods

12-11-2007, 04:56 AM

tunahelper

12-11-2007, 06:06 AM

Kevin Smith of UCF.

CrazyCowboy

12-11-2007, 07:18 AM

Stewart is a great back....with lot's of up side.

dillinger319

12-11-2007, 07:19 AM

Kevin Smith of UCF.

Ding Ding ding We have a winner..... The guy is very underrated and will shoot up draft boards come draft time......

Joe Rod

12-11-2007, 07:46 AM

Ding Ding ding We have a winner..... The guy is very underrated and will shoot up draft boards come draft time......

If he declares, it will be very hard to ignore his numbers.

JerryFan

12-11-2007, 07:50 AM

Jonathan Stewart runs with speed and power, I like him behind that big O-line... But I like Mendanhall a little better from the Univ of Illinois.

Mendenhall is a STUD!!!!! I'd take him in round 2 over Slayton or Stewart every day of the week.

dbair1967

12-11-2007, 08:10 AM

I don't think Slaton will be a good pro. I'll take Stewart.

I actually think the opposite, because Slaton has better pure running skills

I'm leery of both however, as both play in offenses that create gaping running lanes...I watched Stewart the last couple of games they played, and he looked average at best...Slaton at least has really quick feet and breakaway speed

David

CATCH17

12-11-2007, 08:11 AM

Slaton just seems a lot more limited to me at the next level.

dbair1967

12-11-2007, 09:28 AM

Slaton just seems a lot more limited to me at the next level.

he does? how exactly? he's had over 200 carries every season...he's caught 64 passes in 3 seasons, scored 50 rushing tds and 5 more on receptions...he's never lost a fumble (in fact their stats show he has never fumbled at all) and he has tremendous speed and quickness and has a multitude of 50+ yd plays running and receiving

is he as big as Barber? no he isnt...but he'd be a nice complement and is a game breaker...personally I want McFadden and I also like Felix Jones, but if we didnt make any draft day moves and ended up with Slaton I'd be pretty pleased...

David

Doomsday101

12-11-2007, 09:31 AM

I think both guys have a chance to have very good NFL careers and would love to be in a position to grab either one.

03EBZ06

12-11-2007, 09:44 AM

I like Ray Rice over Slaton and Stewart.

Woods

12-11-2007, 10:00 AM

It's very fortunate for us that this Draft appears to be rich and deep with respect to the RB position.

We can probably get a quality RB even in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Just to sum up some of the names, in no particular order,

D Mac
Mendenhall
Stewart
Rice
Choice
Smith
Slaton
M Hart
F Jones
Allen Patrick
J Davis

Did I forget anyone?

daboys79

12-11-2007, 10:40 AM

Slaton just seems a lot more limited to me at the next level.

Can you say 3rd down back

AdamJT13

12-11-2007, 02:48 PM

I watched Stewart the last couple of games they played, and he looked average at best.

Stewart played the last few games with turf toe, which Eric Dickerson said was the most painful injury a running back can have.

Hostile

12-11-2007, 02:51 PM

Kevin Smith of UCF.I like him, Ray Rice of Rutgers, or Jonathon Stewart of Oregon with one of our first rounders, preferably the 2nd or our 2nd round pick if RBs are falling.

dbair1967

12-11-2007, 02:57 PM

Stewart played the last few games with turf toe, which Eric Dickerson said was the most painful injury a running back can have.

I didnt know that...obviously that makes a difference

David

WV Cowboy

12-11-2007, 03:05 PM

I like him, Ray Rice of Rutgers, or Jonathon Stewart of Oregon with one of our first rounders, preferably the 2nd or our 2nd round pick if RBs are falling.

I am fond of Ray Rice myself, I think he will be a solid NFL RB.

Oh_Canada

12-11-2007, 03:35 PM

My Wish List (based on position/probability/value)

1.Mendenhall--Has the entire package.(late first/second rounder)
2.Savage--Best complimentary option to Barber (third/fourth rd pick)
3.Kevin Smith--Kind of reminds me of Ryan Grant/Dorsey Levens running style (late first/second)
4.Jamaal Charles--Explosive, but his blocking ability needs some work.(third/fourth rd)
5.James Davis--another burner and a bit larger than Charles (third rd)

Hostile

12-11-2007, 03:35 PM

I am fond of Ray Rice myself, I think he will be a solid NFL RB.He reminds me of Emmitt. A lot in fact.

CATCH17

12-11-2007, 03:40 PM

He reminds me of Emmitt. A lot in fact.

Hes got a little Emmitt in him.

He reminds me a lot of Michael Turner though. I couldn't figure out why Turner fell so far in the draft. I guess it was because he played at N. Illinois but he was a bad *** there.

The thing I like about Rice is his durability more than anything. Thats one of the major concerns for a RB at this level and I think he'll be straight.

Doomsday101

12-11-2007, 03:47 PM

AmishCowboy

12-11-2007, 04:42 PM

Slaton just seems a lot more limited to me at the next level.
Slaton reminds me of Brian Westbrook. I think he would be fine getting the same amount of carries that JJ gets.

Doomsday101

12-11-2007, 04:47 PM

Slaton reminds me of Brian Westbrook. I think he would be fine getting the same amount of carries that JJ gets.

Being compared to Brian Westbrook is a pretty good compliment in my view. I hate Philly but I respect the heck out of Westbrook and what he brings to the table.

CATCH17

12-11-2007, 04:53 PM

Slaton reminds me of Brian Westbrook. I think he would be fine getting the same amount of carries that JJ gets.

If hes Brian Westbrook then I hope we get him but he reminds me of a poor mans Reggie Bush.

If Barber takes a fall I wouldnt be as comfortable with him as I would be some others. Even Mike Hart i'd be more comfortable with if Barber got hurt.

50cent

12-11-2007, 05:34 PM

I like him, Ray Rice of Rutgers, or Jonathon Stewart of Oregon with one of our first rounders, preferably the 2nd or our 2nd round pick if RBs are falling.
I'm kinda surprised that no one has mentioned Felix Jones, especially with the Arkansas ties. I think he is the perfect compliment to Barber and he's already used to sharing the load and spotlight. Not to mention return ability and receiving skills.

Bob Sacamano

12-11-2007, 07:43 PM

I wouldn't bank on all of the top Junior backs declaring

Bizwah

12-12-2007, 09:30 PM

What's all this "compliment" talk?

I just want a GOOD RB. Who care's how he "compliments" Barber?

If we could draft Barber's clone I would do it. Wouldn't hurt at all to have two backs like Barber.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what people are saying, but I think you get into trouble when you worry about finding a COMPLIMENT or backup. You just take the best player at the position that you can.

Stewart reminds me of Barber....but that wouldn't stop me from drafting him.

All that being said, I'm not sure there are any real top flight RB prospects in the draft other than McFadden. There are plenty to be had in rounds two through four.

Choice would be a nice prospect. I do like Kevin Smith...he's a slasher. I think he would fit in a Denver-type offense...one cut and go. There's a bunch of clips of him on youtube. One clip has all 41 carries of his game against UAB (he had like 300 yards rushing that game). He has a lot of nice runs, but he also gets stopped in the backfield quite a bit.

Sorry, I got distracted I guess....Between Slaton and Stewart, I'll take Stewart.

TVMan

12-13-2007, 05:40 AM

Neither. If we absolutely must have a RB that early, I'd trade down and take Tashard Choice.

Choice is a good back, however, he is an injury waiting to happen.

Zaxor

12-13-2007, 08:06 AM

I like him, Ray Rice of Rutgers, or Jonathon Stewart of Oregon with one of our first rounders, preferably the 2nd or our 2nd round pick if RBs are falling.

He reminds me of Emmitt. A lot in fact.

I completely agree with the first and second quote... and as far as Rice...dadgum but if you slapped a Cowboy #22 Jersey on him that said Smith and taped some of the moves and runs that I am not sure I would always be able to tell you who was the real Emmitt and who was the memorex...I really hate to do that to the kid... that is setting the bar far too high. But it is who he reminds me of and I am probably only setting him up for failure in my mind.