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[StevenOtero]

I'm not standing behind these videos. I would just like some commentary on them. The 3rd video is the most shocking.

Bush saw 1st plane hit WTC on 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btmfs-0zujQ&feature

Bush Administration Caught Contradicting Itself 6 Times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz-6A59qzAU&feature

Minetta tells 9/11 Commission Cheney knew exact flight path
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO-9LQDFE2Y

[burmafrd]

Did not realize you were from Alamogordo.
That explains a lot.
All that radiation all those years....

[StevenOtero]

Did not realize you were from Alamogordo.
That explains a lot.
All that radiation all those years....:lmao2:

[StevenOtero]

Did not realize you were from Alamogordo.
That explains a lot.
All that radiation all those years....Rather than comment on the videos. You spout off some weak blanketed statement. Classic conservative move.

[zrinkill]

Classic conservative move.

lmao, are you accusing me of being an extreme liberal? c'mon now..


Pot meet Kettle.

[StevenOtero]

Pot meet Kettle.Dude, I'm in the middle. I'm a very well rounded person. Just because I point out that someone makes a classic conservative move doesn't make me an extreme liberal.

[ologan]

Dude, I'm in the middle. I'm a very well rounded person. Just because I point out that someone makes a classic conservative move doesn't make me an extreme liberal.

No,but authoring 20+ new threads that have a conspiratorial,leftist leaning sorta says otherwise.

[StevenOtero]

No,but authoring 20+ new threads that have a conspiratorial,leftist leaning sorta says otherwise.I am just tired of seeing the same people on this part of the board gang up on someone that speaks out. It is so conservative in the Political Zone. Sorry for bringing both sides of the story to the table. It is just further proof that a large amount of America doesn't want to hear anything that goes against their beliefs/values.

[iceberg]

Dude, I'm in the middle. I'm a very well rounded person. Just because I point out that someone makes a classic conservative move doesn't make me an extreme liberal.

this is about the funniest thing i've in here.

ever.

people in the middle don't go conspiracy hunting. people in the middle are far more concerned about the things they can control in their own immediate lives and take on a tad of personal responsibility.

you do seem like a bright kid, but you seem like you're 'hunting'. you *want* to find bush guilty so any little nugget, no matter how flawed, is still gold to you. or a diamond if you like that reference better.

you *want* to find this, so you do. it's not that surprising. back off the lynch-mob truck and allow yourself to believe what "popular mechanics" says like you want us to believe what you're saying.

you're fighting what they say, not listening. while not an uncommon trait in younger people, it's far from 'rounded' as well. and in my own experience, most people who use the 'classic xyz label' as a HAHA defense are on the extremes of their own side.

[iceberg]

I am just tired of seeing the same people on this part of the board gang up on someone that speaks out. It is so conservative in the Political Zone. Sorry for bringing both sides of the story to the table. It is just further proof that a large amount of America doesn't want to hear anything that goes against their beliefs/values.

you mean like you don't want to hear you could be wrong?

welcome to the club then.

[iceberg]

I'm not standing behind these videos. I would just like some commentary on them. The 3rd video is the most shocking.

Bush saw 1st plane hit WTC on 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btmfs-0zujQ&feature



ok, you bush attackers need to make up your mind. bush gaffs about 60% of his sentences left and right and you make fun of every single one you can find. YET WHEN IT SUITS YOUR PURPOSE that he likely gaff'd again, you call him a liar vs. the idiot he was on his last 1000 gaffs.

not defending bush - but as a 'well rounded person' it's stupid to attack someone's flaw and make fun of it for your own amusement then take it seriously only when it suits you.

like i said - you're hunting so you'll find what you're looking for. you'll laugh at his mistakes till it's a bullet in your anti-bush-ray-gun (do those have bullets?) then suddenly bush didn't misspeak, he lied. WHY IS IT A LIE THIS TIME?

cause you need it/want it to be.

[StevenOtero]

this is about the funniest thing i've in here.

ever.

people in the middle don't go conspiracy hunting. people in the middle are far more concerned about the things they can control in their own immediate lives and take on a tad of personal responsibility.

you do seem like a bright kid, but you seem like you're 'hunting'. you *want* to find bush guilty so any little nugget, no matter how flawed, is still gold to you. or a diamond if you like that reference better.

you *want* to find this, so you do. it's not that surprising. back off the lynch-mob truck and allow yourself to believe what "popular mechanics" says like you want us to believe what you're saying.

you're fighting what they say, not listening. while not an uncommon trait in younger people, it's far from 'rounded' as well.That is also your opinion. I watch conspiracy films because I find them interesting. I don't always believe them, and I'm not against everything that is on the main stream media. When there are enough holes in some official story.. yes I will question it.

Trust me.. I am well rounded, I have been raised well rounded. I don't want Bush to be guilty. That is the last thing that I want. More and more evidence is pointing to him being behind some of the "conspiracies".

I doubt we will ever know what really happens behind closed doors. That is the reason the conspiracy theorists are allowed to speak. Because nobody can prove them right or wrong.

The people that are so narrow minded in their own beliefs are WRONG. You can't believe everything that comes from a credible news source. That is nothing but ignorance. It is your duty as an American citizen to question things. If not "they" can do almost anything and get away with it. Why? Because no one seemed to care to ask questions.

[iceberg]

That is also your opinion. I watch conspiracy films because I find them interesting. I don't always believe them, and I'm not against everything that is on the main stream media. When there are enough holes in some official story.. yes I will question it.

Trust me.. I am well rounded, I have been raised well rounded. I don't want Bush to be guilty. That is the last thing that I want. More and more evidence is pointing to him being behind some of the "conspiracies".

I doubt we will ever know what really happens behind closed doors. That is the reason the conspiracy theorists are allowed to speak. Because nobody can prove them right or wrong.

The people that are so narrow minded in their own beliefs are WRONG. You can't believe everything that comes from a credible news source. That is nothing but ignorance. It is your duty as an American citizen to question things. If not "they" can do almost anything and get away with it. Why? Because no one seemed to care to ask questions.

not thinking like you does not make someone narrow minded. you're in your own beliefs just as they are. why are you right and them wrong just because you have the honor of believing what you do?

on the top you say no one can prove them right or wrong.

now you say narrow minded people are WRONG.

yet you just said no one can prove it. either way.

yet, they're wrong.

get me yet?

i'm not arguing people or policy - i'm arguing mindset which helps understand how to see a bigger picture than whatever it is you're trying to put together.

[StevenOtero]

I'm just saying it is wrong to be narrow minded. Some conspiracy theorists that tell the truth will never be proved right or wrong, because the accused will never come forward and confirm nor deny. Believe what you want, it is your right. Now whether you are right or wrong is a while different story. The only reason I say being narrow minded is wrong is that most of the time you are only getting one side of the story.

[StevenOtero]

..and if you are well rounded you would hear both sides of the story, and make your own conclusions.

[iceberg]

I'm just saying it is wrong to be narrow minded. Some conspiracy theorists that tell the truth will never be proved right or wrong, because the accused will never come forward and confirm nor deny. Believe what you want, it is your right. Now whether you are right or wrong is a while different story. The only reason I say being narrow minded is wrong is that most of the time you are only getting one side of the story.

if you can't prove it right or wrong, is it truth or what you "believe"? and by your own defination, isn't it narrow minded to only see that the conspiracy theorists, of which a very small % of these sitatuations *are* conspiracies, see?

narrow minded to me is "i'm right cause i wanna be" that you're really showing right now. maybe you are right.

maybe bush did lie vs. misspeak.

i'm open to that. now go prove it vs. just believe it. the reason they can't be proven wrong is because they don't want to be. any evidence to show them they're wrong is dismissed by a cover up.

since you're so willing to believe one cover up, you don't mind taking on as many as it takes to keep the faith.

that's a narrow mind by defination.

[iceberg]

..and if you are well rounded you would hear both sides of the story, and make your own conclusions.

i have. there's still no conspriacy and digging up old previously shot down news to rehash doesn't make it any more right than the last time it was shot down.

conspiracies are like a security blanket to some. keeps 'em warm inside to believe such evil is out there and they're so close to exposing it. why won't anyone listen?

cause you're an extreme liberal, maybe? : ) albiet a well rounded extremist...

[StevenOtero]

i have. there's still no conspriacy and digging up old previously shot down news to rehash doesn't make it any more right than the last time it was shot down.

conspiracies are like a security blanket to some. keeps 'em warm inside to believe such evil is out there and they're so close to exposing it. why won't anyone listen?

cause you're an extreme liberal, maybe? : ) albiet a well rounded extremist...No, I am just well rounded. I am slanted against this administration because of where this country is at. Not just due to conspiracies. Conspiracy theories are just that. Theroies... They only add fuel to the fire of one's beliefs. They don't drastically shape their beliefs. Yes, some are that weak minded.. but I am not. You may think otherwise, but that is your opinion.. not fact.

[iceberg]

No, I am just well rounded. I am slanted against this administration because of where this country is at. Not just due to conspiracies. Conspiracy theories are just that. Theroies... They only add fuel to the fire of one's beliefs. They don't drastically shape their beliefs. Yes, some are that weak minded.. but I am not. You may think otherwise, but that is your opinion.. not fact.

you're right.

and there being a conspiracy is your opinion.

not truth.

[jman]

I doubt we will ever know what really happens behind closed doors. That is the reason the conspiracy theorists are allowed to speak. Because nobody can prove them right or wrong.

No, it is because they live in the United States of America. Where whether you like it or not, people can spout off about anything they want and not worry about being locked up or executed for it.