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jterrell
02-03-2008, 02:36 PM
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/02/clinton-unveils-new-stump-speech/

LOS ANGELES — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton debuted an almost entirely new stump speech at a raucous rally with 5,000 people in Los Angeles on Saturday morning, meanwhile, replacing her old, policy-heavy remarks with a new overarching message – “the America I see” – and new hits on two of her opponents, Mr. Obama and the Republican front-runner, Senator John McCain of Arizona.

Speaking in the broad thematic strokes that more voters (and reporters) expect from Mr. Obama, Mrs. Clinton invoked Robert F. Kennedy by name as she said she was running to strengthen the United States for “the next generation” of Americans. She bluntly added that there was “no guarantee that we will remain a great country” unless all people contribute to the nation’s needs.

“One of the main reasons I decided to run for president is because I will not stand by and see our country break faith – that we would leave American worse off than when we found it,” Mrs. Clinton said at California State University-Los Angeles.

“There is no guarantee that we will remain a great country,” she continued. “It’s up to each of us in our own way , in our own time, to make the contributions, to set the goals and achieve them.”

Referring to Mr. Obama, Mrs. Clinton said at one point, “My opponent will not commit to universal health care,” triggering a round of boos. “I do not believe we should nominate any Democrat who will not stand here today, tomorrow, or any day” who will not explicitly support universal health insurance,” she added.

Mr. Obama has said that his health care plan would sufficiently lower costs to make insurance affordable for Americans to obtain it. But unlike Mrs. Clinton, he would not require all people to purchase or obtain it – a key difference, she argues.

Mrs. Clinton also touted her experience in public life, and by extension contrasted it with Mr. Obama’s record as a state legislator and three years in the United States Senate.

“There will be no guesswork – I’m not asking you to take a leap of faith – I’m asking you to hire me to do the hardest job in the entire world,” Mrs. Clinton said, sparking chants of “Hillary! Hillary!” from the crowd.

Mrs. Clinton also criticized Mr. McCain by name, citing his remark about American soldiers in Iraq.

“He’d be perfectly happy to be there for 100 years,” she said. “I just want you to think about this – I believe that we can have an election this time where all of the issues, including national security, are ones where democrats can stand and proudly promote.”

Mrs. Clinton referred to Mr. Kennedy’s visit to East Los Angeles decades ago – and also praised the labor leader Cesar Chavez – with a clear purpose in mind. Not only is she battling Mr. Obama’s endorsements from Senator Edward M. Kennedy; Robert Kennedy’s widow, Ethel; and President Kennedy’s daughter Caroline, but she is also seeking a mandate of support in Tuesday’s nominating contest in California and 21 other states from working class voters, Hispanics, union members, and young people.

She also said that she wanted to “tackle poverty” – the chief cause of her former Democratic opponent, John Edwards, whose endorsement both she and Mr. Obama are seeking.

“We need a doer, we need a fighter, and we need a champion who once again gets up every day in the White House,” she said.

“What we have to do together is to seize this moment and give each and every one of us a role to play in the new America I see,” she said.

“The America that I see, we will once again commit ourselves to making every single child have the same chances no matter where he or she is born, to live up to their God-given potential,” she continued.

“In the America I see,” she added, all people will have universal health care and universal pre-kindergarten, access to an affordable college education, and protection from “abusive lending practices.”

Mrs. Clinton left Los Angeles in the early afternoon to hold rallies on Saturday in two other states with nominating contests on Tuesday, Arizona and New Mexico, before heading on to Missouri, where she was scheduled to land at 2 a.m. Sunday.

theogt
02-03-2008, 03:51 PM
Who cares?

jterrell
02-03-2008, 04:18 PM
Who cares?

obviously you, and thanks for the bump.

theogt
02-03-2008, 11:13 PM
obviously you, and thanks for the bump.What bump? It was the second thread on the page.

Cajuncowboy
02-03-2008, 11:28 PM
the America she sees is one where she is forcing you to purchase something you may or may not want to purchase. In other words, she is a socialist.

that term has been used before by someone....Who was that???

Oh yeah,

the United Soviet Socialists Republic. U.S.S.R.That was the Russia they say and the America she sees.

jterrell
02-04-2008, 09:11 AM
the America she sees is one where she is forcing you to purchase something you may or may not want to purchase. In other words, she is a socialist.

that term has been used before by someone....Who was that???

Oh yeah,

the United Soviet Socialists Republic. U.S.S.R.That was the Russia they say and the America she sees.

You mean like being forced to wear seat belts and carry car insurance???

It is a huge public safety issue for people to not have insurance. On the small scale they go to work/school/out in public and get others sick which results in lost work/school time but on a mere serious side people have TB or HIV and run around unchecked for quite some time because they do not have insurance.

Every person should absolutely have Medicaid and once we lose the retarded rhetoric about the issue that becomes very, very clear.

Cajuncowboy
02-04-2008, 09:53 PM
You mean like being forced to wear seat belts and carry car insurance???

It is a huge public safety issue for people to not have insurance. On the small scale they go to work/school/out in public and get others sick which results in lost work/school time but on a mere serious side people have TB or HIV and run around unchecked for quite some time because they do not have insurance.

Every person should absolutely have Medicaid and once we lose the retarded rhetoric about the issue that becomes very, very clear.

LOL!

You are comparing a state mandated auto insurance which covers THE OTHER PERSON to a federally mandated insurance program for ones health insurance.

OMG, this is why I don't take Hillary or her supporters seriously.

I'll make you feel a bit more at home with the words of the Beatles .... (which I hear may be Hillary's new campaign song)


Flew in from Miami Beach BOAC
Didn't get to bed last night
Oh, the way the paper bag was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight
I'm back in the USSR
You don't know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the USSR, yeah

Been away so long I hardly knew the place
Gee, it's good to be back home
Leave it till tomorrow to unpack my case
Honey disconnect the phone
I'm back in the USSR
You don't know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the US
Back in the US
Back in the USSR

Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
They Georgia's always on my my my my my my my my my mind
Oh, come on
Hu Hey Hu, hey, ah, yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah
I'm back in the USSR
You don't know how lucky you are, boys
Back in the USSR

Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
They Georgia's always on my my my my my my my my my mind

Oh, show me round your snow peaked
mountain way down south
Take me to you daddy's farm
Let me hear you balalaika's ringing out
Come and keep your comrade warm
I'm back in the USSR
Hey, You don't know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the USSR
Oh, let me tell you honey

iceberg
02-04-2008, 10:16 PM
You mean like being forced to wear seat belts and carry car insurance???

It is a huge public safety issue for people to not have insurance. On the small scale they go to work/school/out in public and get others sick which results in lost work/school time but on a mere serious side people have TB or HIV and run around unchecked for quite some time because they do not have insurance.

Every person should absolutely have Medicaid and once we lose the retarded rhetoric about the issue that becomes very, very clear.

your car insurance does nothing for you in the mandated terms, only who you hit so you can be responsible to those around you.

you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him take a pee in it.

you can't force people to be personally responsible and promote welfare all at the same time. we've taught people to be depandant on the government for their life for no other reasons than they're alive and someone has to do it i suppose.

any port in a storm, jt.

jman
02-05-2008, 05:06 AM
your car insurance does nothing for you in the mandated terms, only who you hit so you can be responsible to those around you.

you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him take a pee in it.

you can't force people to be personally responsible and promote welfare all at the same time. we've taught people to be depandant on the government for their life for no other reasons than they're alive and someone has to do it i suppose.

any port in a storm, jt.

But you can shove a waterhose down it's throat.

iceberg
02-05-2008, 08:39 AM
But you can shove a waterhose down it's throat.


that'll gain a peaceful, cooperative reaction. : )