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Kittymama
10-25-2004, 01:30 PM
Says Glenn is out at least 2 weeks, then they'll reevaluate. Hoping it won't require surgery.

Takes full blame for what happened.

They regressed this week.

Kittymama
10-25-2004, 01:34 PM
Very disappointed in how they played. Really thought they'd play better.

Has spent the last 24 hours going back over things to see where he could manage the situation better than he has. Thinks there is, & he's going to have to manage better & differently. That's his own self-evaluation.

You like to stick with things that have worked until you realize they're wrong. That's what's happened in some areas, so he's going to reevaluate.

Kittymama
10-25-2004, 01:38 PM
Will let us know as he goes what he's going to change. "Will have to manage this team differently."

Every year things happen that can alter the course of a team. Teams don't follow a pattern very much anymore (other than New England). Will have to take a different course of action. He's not intimating anything right now.

Didn't put in backup QB because it doesn't give them much experience. "What kind of experience would it give them?" Reporters need to evaluate the QB he has playing rather than worrying about the ones who aren't.

Have been totally inefficient in the secondary. Not just the secondary, but it also starts in some other areas. Will have to see what he can do about it.

Woodson hasn't been here all year. Can't say that there has been a ripple effect from that. He'd like to have Woody, but he hasn't been here all year. Yes, he's missed, but they never had him.

SA_Gunslinger
10-25-2004, 01:39 PM
doesn't sound like he's close to pulling vinny yet.

crummy news on t.g.

Midswat
10-25-2004, 01:41 PM
Admitted to mismanaging the entire team . . .

I think he was talking about keeping Zimmer . . .

Kittymama
10-25-2004, 01:41 PM
Woodson is still week to week.

Trying to get team back on track. Don't speculate. It's all the aspects of the team.

Had a Jets team start 1-6, but that's irrelevant. What matters is this team & what they can do.

Not a good day to talk about that (didn't hear the question, so I don't know what "that" is--perhaps QB?).

Hasn't discussed WR situation yet. Will let us know what's going to happen. (Sounds like Quincy also may not be playing!)

hockix
10-25-2004, 01:42 PM
Has spent the last 24 hours going back over things to see where he could manage the situation better than he has. Thinks there is, & he's going to have to manage better & differently. That's his own self-evaluation.


This is already an improvement.

dbair1967
10-25-2004, 01:44 PM
Admitted to mismanaging the entire team . . .

I think he was talking about keeping Zimmer . . .

if it were only true

David

Kittymama
10-25-2004, 01:44 PM
Does know what he needs to do. Just needs to get going with it better than he has. Has been assuming some things that he shouldn't. Feels like he knows what he's going to try to do & do a bit better.

The team he was talking about at the start of the season (a better team than the record indicates) is different from the team he has now. Has to manage what he has.

Midswat
10-25-2004, 01:47 PM
if it were only true

David


I'm with you brotha . . .

Wasn't it you that talked about only having interceptions in 3 of the past 21 games?

Kittymama
10-25-2004, 01:48 PM
Can't look back on who we didn't get in FA. Has to deal with what we have.

Won't put in Henson while there's still a fragment of the team doing well.

Didn't kick well. Was very upset with kickoff return more than kickoff coverage--not so much as front line as wedge people & return people. That hasn't been the case so far this year.

You don't break down on defense because you aren't running (or doing anything else on offense). Yes, it's helpful for defense not to be out so long, but you can't blame defensive failures on running game.

Will have to manage this team differently. Looks like we'll have a lot of our firepower out.

Not a good day to go into personnel.

Q_the_man
10-25-2004, 01:53 PM
Get a real DC IMO....not a blitze happy guy, if maybe Zimmer did a little zone blitzing, cough cough to make the QB from the other team think a little he could confuse someone, but no he wants to all out blitze every other down.

Memo to Zimmer "TEAMS FIGURED OUT WHAT WE WERE DOING BY WEEK 9 OF LAST YEAR---- CHANGE UP PLEASE"

Kittymama
10-25-2004, 01:54 PM
"I feel like I've mismanaged this team somewhat. I have to take responsibility. I need to concentrate on putting this team in a position to win. I've been thinking about it for 24 hours nonstop."

Doesn't think saying the team quit is a fair term. He's not going to say that. Reporters can write what they want, but he's not going to say that.

When you see something with a team that you think you can exploit, you want to use the positives as much as possible. That hasn't worked out the way he's hoped. Yes, you can call it a misjudgement. It's what he thought he saw that the team could do--but they can't. Needs to change that.

Vinny hasn't thrown an interception since Cleveland. Percentage completion has gone up. (Inference, though, is that's not enough.)

When you start giving up big plays on the third play of the game, that has nothing to do with being on the field too long. Can't use that excuse in the first quarter.

Haven't been able to make any big defensive plays on the passing game. That has to change.

Kittymama
10-25-2004, 01:59 PM
Reporters are getting way too involved in the psychological stuff. He's not going to get on a podium about winning. The team is looking to him to tell them what they need to do to win. Are talking about too many intangibles. He needs to figure out how to win a game.

The delay of games were from them trying to match personnel on the field.

The team needs better returners than what they have. However, they are decent. Statistically, they're fairly high up in the NFC. But, they were poor yesterday. Didn't control any aspects of special teams yesterday.

Woody Dantzler was in here a couple of weeks ago. Not interested in him now.

PC over.

dbair1967
10-25-2004, 02:00 PM
I'm with you brotha . . .

Wasn't it you that talked about only having interceptions in 3 of the past 21 games?


this yr we have intercepted passes in one of 6 games, 1 of ten counting the 4 preseason games (which dont count or w/l's, but they were games, and if anything you should be more likely to intercept passes in preseason games)...going back to last yr , we went the final 11 games (counting the playoff loss) and picked off passes in 2 of those

overall, thats means we've had one pick (or more in two cases) in only 3 of the last 21 games...18 games without an interception, its really just an amazing example of futility in creating turnovers...maybe one day when I am bored I'll go back and figure out what it from 2000 on, when Zimmer took over

David

trickblue
10-25-2004, 02:04 PM
Didn't put in backup QB because it doesn't give them much experience. "What kind of experience would it give them?" Reporters need to evaluate the QB he has playing rather than worrying about the ones who aren't.

A direct contradiction as to what he said last week...

blindzebra
10-25-2004, 02:18 PM
A direct contradiction as to what he said last week...

It also contradicts his comments on playing Henson. Why get Romo beat up, well why get Henson beat up when the other players know the season is over?

Anyone want to get Bill some film of Hutchinson after Emmitt got the record and the rest of the team stopped playing?

Jarv
10-25-2004, 02:20 PM
this yr we have intercepted passes in one of 6 games, 1 of ten counting the 4 preseason games (which dont count or w/l's, but they were games, and if anything you should be more likely to intercept passes in preseason games)...going back to last yr , we went the final 11 games (counting the playoff loss) and picked off passes in 2 of those

overall, thats means we've had one pick (or more in two cases) in only 3 of the last 21 games...18 games without an interception, its really just an amazing example of futility in creating turnovers...maybe one day when I am bored I'll go back and figure out what it from 2000 on, when Zimmer took over

David

Shouldn't take too long. I'm sure it hasn't been many...13 in 2003...19 in 2002...

Kittymama
10-25-2004, 02:28 PM
It also contradicts his comments on playing Henson. Why get Romo beat up, well why get Henson beat up when the other players know the season is over?

Anyone want to get Bill some film of Hutchinson after Emmitt got the record and the rest of the team stopped playing?

I think people are misinterpreting what Bill was saying. He was very curt & dismissive of the question. I get the feeling he wants to keep them out for as long as possible. That's why he didn't bring either of them in yesterday. He said something to the effect of why risk getting them banged up when the game was clearly lost? He knows, realistically, that one or the other will be coming in at some point, but why throw one in yesterday in a panic situation & risk a possible needless/pointless injury?

The prediction on DallasCowboys.com was that, if we're still under .500 after the Philly game, one or the other starts. At that point, then you have to take the risk & start getting them experience for next year. But right now, to turn to one of them says to the veterans that the coach has already given up on the season. (That's Eatman's speculation--not Parcells' comment.)

blindzebra
10-25-2004, 02:32 PM
I think people are misinterpreting what Bill was saying. He was very curt & dismissive of the question. I get the feeling he wants to keep them out for as long as possible. That's why he didn't bring either of them in yesterday. He said something to the effect of why risk getting them banged up when the game was clearly lost? He knows, realistically, that one or the other will be coming in at some point, but why throw one in yesterday in a panic situation & risk a possible needless/pointless injury?

The prediction on DallasCowboys.com was that, if we're still under .500 after the Philly game, one or the other starts. At that point, then you have to take the risk & start getting them experience for next year. But right now, to turn to one of them says to the veterans that the coach has already given up on the season. (That's Eatman's speculation--not Parcells' comment.)

So why risk your 41 year old starter? That excuse does not cut it. It's as lame as saying I don't trust Lee while EG and Anderson are missing blitz pick ups.

Chuck 54
10-25-2004, 02:34 PM
Won't put in Henson while there's still a fragment of the team doing well.


lmao....oh man....I'm sorry....I want to see Henson.....if having a fragment of the team doing well is all we need to keep henson on the bench, then:

1. He must really suck right now; and
2. When he does get in, I guess the entire team will have to be playing so poorly that it won't matter what he does.

Maybe BP didn't mean for that to sound as bad as it did.

BrAinPaiNt
10-25-2004, 02:35 PM
So why risk your 41 year old starter? That excuse does not cut it. It's as lame as saying I don't trust Lee while EG and Anderson are missing blitz pick ups.


Maybe because he is just that...a 41 year old starter.
:D

MichaelWinicki
10-25-2004, 02:42 PM
this yr we have intercepted passes in one of 6 games, 1 of ten counting the 4 preseason games (which dont count or w/l's, but they were games, and if anything you should be more likely to intercept passes in preseason games)...going back to last yr , we went the final 11 games (counting the playoff loss) and picked off passes in 2 of those

overall, thats means we've had one pick (or more in two cases) in only 3 of the last 21 games...18 games without an interception, its really just an amazing example of futility in creating turnovers...maybe one day when I am bored I'll go back and figure out what it from 2000 on, when Zimmer took over

David


David, I think your wasting your time on this Zimmer thing. Zimmer isn't going anywhere this season. Parcells would never swallow his pride and fire the guy. Never. I think you need to find a target that can legitimately be "blown-up" like say Wiley for instance. "GROW" is much more feasible and realistic than "GROZ". I'm not saying Zimmer doesn't deserve it, I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

diehard2294
10-25-2004, 03:21 PM
The team needs better returners than what they have. However, they are decent. Statistically, they're fairly high up in the NFC. But, they were poor yesterday. Didn't control any aspects of special teams yesterday.


He must be kidding our special teams are horrible, Punting has been the only bright spot, Ward is a waste of space, why is he on this team :mad: If cundiff kicks one more to the 15yard line I will scream. Put him on the bus with a sign "no return Please"

Mash
10-25-2004, 03:34 PM
What Bill mismanged was his "drive the bus" attitude.

He was blinded by the #1 ranking on defence.

He put all his eggs in one basket for this year on the defence playing like last year.

He is now realizing....that the defence has alot of holes. You can't play a two deep zone all the time. Our blitz packages are pathetic....our ends can't rush the passer and our corners can't cover.....

On offence....we can't run and pick up the blitz

Our offence is the slowest in the league.

aikemirv
10-25-2004, 03:41 PM
I really believe that the reason he did not put Hneson or Romo in there is because he has enough things to worry about with this team this week rather than have a distraction about QB going on this week. I wanted to see Henson too, but what if he did really well or very poor? There would have been a bunch of media crap he would have had to deal with on top of the defensive meltdown.

I agree with him that it was not the right time. Just more distractions for a team that is totally out of sorts!

Nors
10-25-2004, 03:50 PM
We went from an aggressive up and coming football team, playoff calibre

We now are a despondent, old, boring football team. :mad: We are making a run at a top 5 pick its looking like.

Can we use 3-4 after a few more losses? I'll at least be chuckling as we get rocked!

HoustonSucks
10-25-2004, 03:53 PM
What Bill mismanged was his "drive the bus" attitude.

He was blinded by the #1 ranking on defence.

He put all his eggs in one basket for this year on the defence playing like last year.

He is now realizing....that the defence has alot of holes. You can't play a two deep zone all the time. Our blitz packages are pathetic....our ends can't rush the passer and our corners can't cover.....

On offence....we can't run and pick up the blitz

Our offence is the slowest in the league.


I think you hit the nail on the head. In each of the defensive starters we released from last years' squad, he gambled that he was replacing with an upgrade. Didn't work out that way.

Plus the injury of Woody, of course.

Kittymama
10-25-2004, 03:59 PM
We went from an aggressive up and coming football team, playoff calibre

We now are a despondent, old, boring football team. We are making a run at a top 5 pick its looking like.

Well I'm confused. Are we old or are we young & inexperienced? Refresh my imagination, but isn't it the YOUNG players like Newman & Witten & the CBs that people are complaining about? We want Woody back--um, isn't he OLD?! From the games I've been watching, it's the old guys like Richie & Terry & Key & Vinny who have been playing pretty decently. Yes, Eddie & Marcellus aren't looking too great. That's 2 old guys vs. how many youngsters that people are complaining about?

We're still an up & coming team. I think some of our youngsters on defense got spooked by the injuries to some of the "old guys" (like Woody) & are having to grow up fast.

Nors
10-25-2004, 04:02 PM
Well I'm confused. Are we old or are we young & inexperienced? Refresh my imagination, but isn't it the YOUNG players like Newman & Witten & the CBs that people are complaining about? We want Woody back--um, isn't he OLD?! From the games I've been watching, it's the old guys like Richie & Terry & Key & Vinny who have been playing pretty decently. Yes, Eddie & Marcellus aren't looking too great. That's 2 old guys vs. how many youngsters that people are complaining about?

We're still an up & coming team. I think some of our youngsters on defense got spooked by the injuries to some of the "old guys" (like Woody) & are having to grow up fast.


VINNY IS DOING SOME IMPRESSIVE OFF ROAD BUS RIDING!

Duane
10-25-2004, 04:28 PM
Thanks for the recap. :D