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Nors
02-05-2008, 09:30 PM
I won't get into what extreme the national media stations totes to....it's obvious

But it has always been sickening to see them election after election try and distort the early results to "effect" the West coast voters.

At some point this really becomes laughable. Dan Rather don't read this - lol

Nors
02-05-2008, 09:55 PM
They paint a Clinton, McCain are rolling early picture and don't report all the states they are losing. You would think they had learned - but its all about media trying to impact elections with their bias.

theogt
02-05-2008, 10:10 PM
They paint a Clinton, McCain are rolling early picture and don't report all the states they are losing. You would think they had learned - but its all about media trying to impact elections with their bias.McCain actually is rolling, though. He may have lost a lot of states, but in terms of delegate count, he's tripled Romney (390 vs. 133) so far.

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/delegates?ref=ipb

ScipioCowboy
02-05-2008, 10:56 PM
What was all that bravado from Huckabee during his speech? One would think he was in second place, not third behind Romney.

theogt
02-05-2008, 11:00 PM
What was all that bravado from Huckabee during his speech? One would think he was in second place, not third behind Romney.It's a very close third (168 vs. 138) at the moment.

ScipioCowboy
02-05-2008, 11:09 PM
It's a very close third (168 vs. 138) at the moment.

I suppose I'm asking why the Romney camp is so dejected while the Huckabee camp is so energized. Is Huckabee supposed to pick up the bulk of his delegates at a later date?

theogt
02-05-2008, 11:38 PM
I suppose I'm asking why the Romney camp is so dejected while the Huckabee camp is so energized. Is Huckabee supposed to pick up the bulk of his delegates at a later date?I think it's because it was considered a 2-man race this morning, yet Huckabee ended up having a better showing today than Romney. If he would have pulled off Missouri (lost by less than 10k), he takes a decent lead over Romney, and he started the day as an after-thought.

Really, this strong showing by Huckabee puts him as the clear cut choice for VP.

Mavs Man
02-05-2008, 11:41 PM
Adding to theogt's post, I believe Romney's contention died tonight. California was is last shot, and McCain just won it.

Danny White
02-05-2008, 11:45 PM
Adding to theogt's post, I believe Romney's contention died tonight. California was is last shot, and McCain just won it.

The Republican race is OVER.


I think McCain will consider Huck, but I don't think he'll go with him. Huck helps with evangelicals, but doesn't do the wholesale boost with conservatives that McCain needs.

It is a possibility to be sure, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Sasquatch
02-05-2008, 11:46 PM
Really, this strong showing by Huckabee puts him as the clear cut choice for VP.

I think not. McCain's and Huckabee's politics do not jibe well.

Maybe he'll ask John Kerry? :D

theogt
02-05-2008, 11:54 PM
I think not. McCain's and Huckabee's politics do not jibe well.

Maybe he'll ask John Kerry? :DBut, of course, the fact that their politics don't jibe is the major reason he's the #1 contender for the spot.

arglebargle
02-06-2008, 12:10 AM
The Republican race is OVER.


I think McCain will consider Huck, but I don't think he'll go with him. Huck helps with evangelicals, but doesn't do the wholesale boost with conservatives that McCain needs.

It is a possibility to be sure, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Doesn't matter. The conservatives? They going to go with Obama or Hillary? Once McCain wins the primaries, conservatives don't have much of a choice. They could cut their nose off to spite their face, I guess. Like McCain's mother said, 'They'll hold their nose and vote for him." McCain has a chance to win the presidency because he is not an ideological, doctrinaire conservative or lockstep party functionary.

And really, the fact that there are no real conservatives in this race is just reaping the whirlwind.

I think Huckabee has to be considered for VP, though with his 'Bible trumps the Constitution' schtick, I'd never consdier voting for him. It will be interesting to see what McCain does, and when he breaks free from the Primary playacting.....

Sasquatch
02-06-2008, 12:20 AM
But, of course, the fact that their politics don't jibe is the major reason he's the #1 contender for the spot.

Crazy like a fox. McCain is stubborn and doesn't strike me as caring much for the religious right. No way he chooses Huck with all his religiosity. I've heard that it could be the governor of Florida, Minnesota, and possibly even Condi Rice.

theogt
02-06-2008, 12:39 AM
Crazy like a fox. McCain is stubborn and doesn't strike me as caring much for the religious right. No way he chooses Huck with all his religiosity. I've heard that it could be the governor of Florida, Minnesota, and possibly even Condi Rice.He doesn't like the religious right and the religious right doesn't like him. But he needs them and they need him and Huckabee is the bridge.

Aikbach
02-06-2008, 02:09 AM
Condi Rice? That woman prefers to be in the private sector if you listen to her ambitions, she once said her dream job would be as NFL commissioner (she's also a Cowboy fan).

Aikbach
02-06-2008, 02:24 AM
What is the name of that female governor from Alaska? Oh that's right, Sarah Palin. Her star is rising as well as her conservative credentials, would be a bold and possibly wise dark horse runningmate.

Here is a short list of GOP VP choices:

Sarah Palin- Governor of Alaska.

Duncan Hunter- enormously popular in California as a congressman.

Bill Frist- Former GOP Senate Majority leader from Tennessee won a straw poll in 2006 among evangelicals for president over McCain, staunch Presbyterian and Southern conservative.

Haley Harbour- popular governor of Missisip and one of the few political heroes of the Katrina tragedy.

Mike Huckabee- charismatic former Arkansas governor and Baptist minister.

Bobby Jindal- a bit green as he has only been Louisiana's governor for one year, although he has served as a congressman prior, but he is perhaps the bright future of his party and country as the first Indian-American to hold a state governorship and at the tender age of 36 he has great career in front of him. The first Republican to win the Louisiana governorship since reconstruction, he is likened to Ronald Reagan by his supporters.

Looking ahead to 2016 I desire to see David Petraus and Bobby Jindal succeed the McCain administration.

Aikbach
02-06-2008, 02:33 AM
Now on to the darkside..er... I mean Democrats.;)

Hillary will win her nomination, bank on that.

If she is smart she'll go with the most prudent Democrat to hold office in the modern era, Bill Richardson, between McCain and Richardson I'd go with Richardson and I'm a paleo-conservative.

The short bus..er..list of VP candidates for Hillary:

Bill Richardson- If she's smart the former New Mexico governor will be on her ticket.

Mark Warner- If this man was running for president he'd be his party's front runner so it would be a coup for the Clinton's to lure him out of retirement, the most conservative Southern Democrat around, only thing I can't stomach about him his the pro-choice stance. He succeeded George Allen as governor of Virginia.

Joe Biden- Dependable in most areas of foreign policy, crap on the domestic front pushing garbage like ethanol down tax payers throats and into our gas pumps, less socialistic than many alternatives however.

Barak Obama- Due to the caustic battle between the two it would seem a smidge disingenuous if they kissed and made bumper stickers together, I despise him above all candidates in the race, a frighteningly daft socialist in a neat sellable package.

BrAinPaiNt
02-06-2008, 05:09 AM
I heard on Fox last night that Mark Sanford (Gov of S.Carolina) could be a possible running mate for McCain.

I really don't know anything about the guy, just throwing out what I heard.

heavyg
02-06-2008, 06:17 AM
Condi Rice would be very interesting for McCain. I never really gave that much thought. That would definately trump dems with Hillary (female?) or Obamba (black) depending on which one of them get the democratic nod. Then in 8 years we could possibly kill two birds with one stone. That being having our first woman and black president all wrapped up in one.

BrAinPaiNt
02-06-2008, 07:04 AM
Condi Rice would be very interesting for McCain. I never really gave that much thought. That would definately trump dems with Hillary (female?) or Obamba (black) depending on which one of them get the democratic nod. Then in 8 years we could possibly kill two birds with one stone. That being having our first woman and black president all wrapped up in one.

I don't think she is interested at all in the idea of becoming President or Vice President.

I think if she did have aspirations for that she would have ran in this election.

heavyg
02-06-2008, 07:05 AM
I don't think she is interested at all in the idea of becoming President or Vice President.

I think if she did have aspirations for that she would have ran in this election.

Im sure your right. I was just saying it would be interesting. I voted for Huckabee. So I am pulling for him to get the VP nod