View Full Version : What about Jerry Porter?
mmillman
02-13-2008, 01:12 PM
The guy has talent, has it been squandered in that miserable Oakland offense? Don't get me wrong I like Berrian better and Roy Williams even better than that but maybe Porter comes at a much better bargain.
I don't follow Oakland at all, does anyone know if Porter is a locker room problem?
speedkilz88
02-13-2008, 01:16 PM
The Cowboys need a vet #2, I'm sure he will be looked at. He actually has pretty similar talent to Roy Williams.
Hostile
02-13-2008, 01:17 PM
Never liked him.
Star4Ever
02-13-2008, 01:17 PM
I don't mind signing a FA like Porter, as long as we also draft a young receiver. Getting Roy Williams from Detroit would also solve the problem since he's still young. I just don't want all older receivers on the team.
Star4Ever
02-13-2008, 01:20 PM
I keep forgetting about Stanback, but then again, no one knows what he can do.
speedkilz88
02-13-2008, 01:27 PM
I don't mind signing a FA like Porter, as long as we also draft a young receiver. Getting Roy Williams from Detroit would also solve the problem since he's still young. I just don't want all older receivers on the team.
29 isn't old and they have three young receivers on the roster including last years fourth round pick.
Goldenrichards83
02-13-2008, 01:27 PM
I think he would be a great low cost addition.
Star4Ever
02-13-2008, 01:39 PM
29 isn't old and they have three young receivers on the roster including last years fourth round pick.
No, it's not old, but it isn't young either. He'll be 30 before the season starts (at least I think so). We have some young receivers, but no one knows what they can do. Are Stanback, Hurd, and Austin the future? Who knows, but I don't think any of them are ever going to be # 1s. As I stated earlier, I wouldn't mind signing Porter, as long as we also spend one of our first day picks on a young receiver that can contribute now and for the long haul.
Romo2Dez4six
02-13-2008, 01:42 PM
do i need to go pick him up from the airport:D . i like the idea of Porter and still trade a 2nd for Roy
Star4Ever
02-13-2008, 01:46 PM
do i need to go pick him up from the airport:D . i like the idea of Porter and still trade a 2nd for Roy
Well yea. I also like the idea of me dating two Victoria's Secret models, but I'll bet it ain't happening. :p:
speedkilz88
02-13-2008, 01:46 PM
No, it's not old, but it isn't young either. He'll be 30 before the season starts (at least I think so). We have some young receivers, but no one knows what they can do. Are Stanback, Hurd, and Austin the future? Who knows, but I don't think any of them are ever going to be # 1s. As I stated earlier, I wouldn't mind signing Porter, as long as we also spend one of our first day picks on a young receiver that can contribute now and for the long haul.
This is a really poor draft to be looking for a #1 wr, forcing the issue is not the way to build a team.
big dog cowboy
02-13-2008, 01:47 PM
Well yea. I also like the idea of me dating two Victoria's Secret models, but I'll bet it ain't happening. :p:
:eek: :eek: :eek:
What were we talking about again?
Star4Ever
02-13-2008, 01:49 PM
There are 4-6 WRs in this draft that could turn out to be # 1s. Will they? Yet to be determined. You can say the same for any other position in the draft. The bottom line is we have to get better and younger at the receiver position, either through the draft or FA. I'd certainly give up our 2nd round pick for Roy Williams and solve the problem, but it ain't happening.
speedkilz88
02-13-2008, 01:53 PM
There are 4-6 WRs in this draft that could turn out to be # 1s. Will they? Yet to be determined. You can say the same for any other position in the draft. The bottom line is we have to get better and younger at the receiver position, either through the draft or FA. I'd certainly give up our 2nd round pick for Roy Williams and solve the problem, but it ain't happening.
Dream on, this is a really weak crop at the top.
CrazyCowboy
02-13-2008, 01:56 PM
Please.....no....stop it!
Star4Ever
02-13-2008, 02:00 PM
Dream on, this is a really weak crop at the top.
You never know. Do you think anyone thought Jerry Rice would turn out to be the greatest to ever play the game when he was drafted? What about Michael Irvin? Drew Pearson was an undrafted FA and that was when the draft lasted 12-13 rounds. He turned out pretty well. As with any position, you evaluate the players and make your selection. We NEED a receiver. We can't wait for three years and hope a great one falls in our lap. We shouldn't reach, but taking one of the top 3 or so receivers in the draft with a late first round or early second round pick isn't crazy.
speedkilz88
02-13-2008, 04:14 PM
You never know. Do you think anyone thought Jerry Rice would turn out to be the greatest to ever play the game when he was drafted? What about Michael Irvin? Drew Pearson was an undrafted FA and that was when the draft lasted 12-13 rounds. He turned out pretty well. As with any position, you evaluate the players and make your selection. We NEED a receiver. We can't wait for three years and hope a great one falls in our lap. We shouldn't reach, but taking one of the top 3 or so receivers in the draft with a late first round or early second round pick isn't crazy.You must have not been around for those drafts then. Because those guys were highly thought of at the time, SF actually traded above Dallas to get Rice and Irvin's draft was one of the best wr drafts of all time including Tim Brown and Sterling Sharpe and a few #2 speed type wrs.(Blades, Perriman, and Miller)
Doctor32
02-13-2008, 04:14 PM
Never liked him.
No. He's not what we need.
jobberone
02-13-2008, 05:51 PM
I keep forgetting about Stanback, but then again, no one knows what he can do.
I do, too. But he and TG are keys to what we do although no matter what they think about them, Dallas will likely try and get a vet FA esp if they can get a bargain.
If TG rebounds to his abilities of 2006 then we are set at WR. If not then we have to have Stanback deliver. And I'm not sure Jerry is willing to gamble a possible SB berth on that.
My bet is they are looking hard for a true #2 WR.
THUMPER
02-13-2008, 05:56 PM
I don't mind signing a FA like Porter, as long as we also draft a young receiver. Getting Roy Williams from Detroit would also solve the problem since he's still young. I just don't want all older receivers on the team.
I agree with signing Porter and still drafting a young WR. I don't like the idea of TRADING for Williams though when we could get Porter without having to give up picks for him.
Woods
02-13-2008, 06:14 PM
I agree with signing Porter and still drafting a young WR. I don't like the idea of TRADING for Williams though when we could get Porter without having to give up picks for him.
This interests me as well.
I'd also look at DJ Hackett as a potential signing as well. And he's only 26 years old, or so.
This is Our Year
02-13-2008, 09:31 PM
Porter would be a solid move..... He hasn't wanted to play in Oakland for years now. Plus, look at Randy Moss and Charles Woodson both players that wanted out from the Raiders in the worst way and they are both great players once again......... Granted, Porter isn't on Moss and Woodson's level as a player but he is a pretty talented WR.
:starspin
TheCount
02-13-2008, 09:43 PM
This is a really poor draft to be looking for a #1 wr, forcing the issue is not the way to build a team.
Yes, instead, let us wait till next year to draft a guy and have to wait another 2 years on top of that. So maybe in four years, we'll finally have that #1 receiver.
The draft is what it is, draft a guy and develop him to be #1, if he can't fit the bill, get another guy. Procrastinating has never made a team better.
Hailmary
02-13-2008, 09:45 PM
I think that Porter would be a very solid consolation prize if we don't end up w/ Roy Williams. I think he's a much better option over Walker and I may like him slightly better than Berrian. The only advantage I see Berrian having over porter is age.
Porter's been quietly productive also, recording 2 seasons w/ 9 TDs. He's by no means an elite WR, but in our offense, he won't have to be.
hendog
02-13-2008, 09:55 PM
I would like to have Porter. It might help having a good QB throwing him the ball and TO and JWit for him to see single coverage.
StylisticS
02-13-2008, 10:12 PM
I think Porter does not care to play with Owens on the same team. Unless his mind has changed in the past 2 years. Which it might have.
Star4Ever
02-13-2008, 10:16 PM
You must have not been around for those drafts then. Because those guys were highly thought of at the time, SF actually traded above Dallas to get Rice and Irvin's draft was one of the best wr drafts of all time including Tim Brown and Sterling Sharpe and a few #2 speed type wrs.(Blades, Perriman, and Miller)
Believe me, I was around then and way before. You completely missed my point. I know those guys were highly thought of, but absolutely NO ONE thought Jerry Rice from Mississippi Valley St. was going to be the best receiver to ever play the game, and don't even attempt to tell me anyone did. Same with Irvin. Was he expected to be good? Yes, but probably not as good as he turned out to be.
speedkilz88
02-13-2008, 10:17 PM
Yes, instead, let us wait till next year to draft a guy and have to wait another 2 years on top of that. So maybe in four years, we'll finally have that #1 receiver.
The draft is what it is, draft a guy and develop him to be #1, if he can't fit the bill, get another guy. Procrastinating has never made a team better.Drafting a position just for the sake of drafting that position is the way to poor drafting.
Star4Ever
02-13-2008, 10:18 PM
Yes, instead, let us wait till next year to draft a guy and have to wait another 2 years on top of that. So maybe in four years, we'll finally have that #1 receiver.
The draft is what it is, draft a guy and develop him to be #1, if he can't fit the bill, get another guy. Procrastinating has never made a team better.
You sir, are correct!
Star4Ever
02-13-2008, 10:21 PM
Drafting a position just for the sake of drafting that position is the way to poor drafting.
Yea, instead let's go out and draft for a position we don't need. Every draft pick at every position is a gamble. Can't miss players miss all the time. It's just a fact in the NFL. We need a receive and there are some good ones in the draft. Neither you, I, or anybody else knows how they will pan out. If we did, we'd win Super Bowls every year.:banghead:
speedkilz88
02-13-2008, 10:22 PM
Believe me, I was around then and way before. You completely missed my point. I know those guys were highly thought of, but absolutely NO ONE thought Jerry Rice from Mississippi Valley St. was going to be the best receiver to ever play the game, and don't even attempt to tell me anyone did. Same with Irvin. Was he expected to be good? Yes, but probably not as good as he turned out to be.They were both expected to be great #1 receivers. Coaches and scouts were gushing over those guys. No one ever talks about HOF when talking about rookies. That was such a reach.
speedkilz88
02-13-2008, 10:24 PM
Yea, instead let's go out and draft for a position we don't need. Every draft pick at every position is a gamble. Can't miss players miss all the time. It's just a fact in the NFL. We need a receive and there are some good ones in the draft. Neither you, I, or anybody else knows how they will pan out. If we did, we'd win Super Bowls every year.:banghead:
You really don't think they can't find other needs?:rolleyes: If they happen to have a real gem at wr available at a certain pick and thats the best pick for them then fine. But the smart thing is not to reach.
Star4Ever
02-13-2008, 10:32 PM
Taking a WR in the first or second round when they're a consensus first or second round pick isn't a reach, especially when you need a WR. All this talk about WRs having the highest bust rate is a bunch of crap. Every position has busts. Either the player is good or isn't. It doesn't matter what position they play. Everyone knows our biggest needs are at CB, WR, and RB. We're pretty set everywhere else. We don't have Pro Bowlers at every position, but we're in pretty good shape every where but the 3 positions mentioned above. This isn't rocket science.
Star4Ever
02-13-2008, 10:35 PM
I suppose we could draft like when Parcells was here and take a LB and a TE even though we don't need them. I do agree that we shouldn't draft a WR if one isn't available that the staff likes. My point is that there are some pretty solid receivers in the draft and they could turn out to be great ones just like Rice and Irvin. We could just as easily draft a guard or some other position and have a bust with it. Don't be blinded by all this WR bust crap. It's just like every other position on the team.
Future
02-13-2008, 10:59 PM
I think we are going to draft a WR no matter what, if we do that and add Porter there will be no room for either Hurd, Austin, or Stanback. I dont think there is a possibility of that happening.
TheCount
02-13-2008, 11:44 PM
Drafting a position just for the sake of drafting that position is the way to poor drafting.
So you only want to draft a WR in the 1st round if he's a Randy Moss or Calvin Johnson talent? How does that make any sense?
We're not drafting a WR for the sake of drafting, we're drafting a WR because we need one and there are a few good ones in this draft with potential. You don't say, hey screw it, we'll wait till the third round cause I don't think this guy will be as good as Larry Fitzgerald.
There are a few WR's in this years draft that are deserving of a middle to late first round pick.
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