Mcfadden Similiar to Bush?

[shooterware94]

I know both Rb's arnt exactly the same but very similar, big time speed, average north south runner. Reggie bush was the top prospect in that draft, and alot of people have mcfadden the top prospect. Reggie bush has done nothing since hes been in the nfl and that great speed isnt a great factor and cant do much against nfl defenses. My question is since both are similar in some ways do you see mcfadden ending up like bush a great college player but cant make a living running up the middle in the nfl or will mcfadden be a different story. Your thoughts?

[Future]

I know both Rb's arnt exactly the same but very similar, big time speed, average north south runner. Reggie bush was the top prospect in that draft, and alot of people have mcfadden the top prospect. Reggie bush has done nothing since hes been in the nfl and that great speed isnt a great factor and cant do much against nfl defenses. My question is since both are similar in some ways do you see mcfadden ending up like bush a great college player but cant make a living running up the middle in the nfl or will mcfadden be a different story. Your thoughts?

McFadden will be fine running between the tackles because that's what he does I think. Reggie Bush has always been more of a gimmicky type of player, and people thought he would struggle between the tackles at the NFL level.

But to say Reggie Bush has done nothing is dead wrong. He is one of those guys that defenses have to account for on every play, and is a mismatch nightmare. He's only been in the league two years mind you.

[onfieldrush8141]

First of all i dont think shooterware ment he has done nothing he prolly ment that he hasnt lived up to his potential yet. I do see some similarites though, i really feel mcfadden wont be a great back at all he will be a good one though. People just think the college level is similar to the nfl and think because somebody is tearing it up in college they will do the same in nfl. Mcfadden will be good but speed wont get him big success like it did in college thats forsure.

[theogt]

Not a whole lot of similarities, no, other than they played RB in college.

[Big Dakota]

If you equate Bush to DMC you don't know **** about the sport of football.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I really dont see how you can say DMac isnt a good north south runner. His burst through the hole is impressive.

[LatinMind]

in college. in the pros, them twigs he calls legs will be his downfall. just look at caddillac. same type of runner

[David276]

no . in terms of speed down field north south yeah i think mcfadden might be faster if he gets open . but mcfadden is definitely not as shifty as bush. not even close

[CrazyCowboy]

DMac is a beast in the games I saw him play and he will get better if that is possible.

[speedkilz88]

Bush is a scatback, undersized lightning bug. McFadden isn't in that mold.

[BigDave95]

I know both Rb's arnt exactly the same but very similar, big time speed, average north south runner. Reggie bush was the top prospect in that draft, and alot of people have mcfadden the top prospect. Reggie bush has done nothing since hes been in the nfl and that great speed isnt a great factor and cant do much against nfl defenses. My question is since both are similar in some ways do you see mcfadden ending up like bush a great college player but cant make a living running up the middle in the nfl or will mcfadden be a different story. Your thoughts?

It's posts like this that make me wonder if some people on this board even watch football. The idea that McFadden and Bush are similar backs is just ridiculous.

McFadden is a classic, between the tackles rusher. He's a one cut back with power and incredible speed. He's a workhorse RB that needs 20+ carries a game.

Reggie Bush is a shifty waterbug that makes tacklers miss. He's really a hybrid RB/WR who's most effective in space. He is NOT a between the tackles rusher.

What makes Reggie Bush special is his fluid hips and his wiggle and the fact that he's a weapon receiving out of the backfield. This is not McFadden at all.

On rushes, Bush tends to dance around in the backfield before making a decision.

McFadden hits the hole like he's shot from a cannon. His greatest strength is getting past the defensive line fast, breaking through the second level with a stiffarm or just raw power, and blazing his way to the end zone.

REGGIE BUSH AND DARREN MCFADDEN ARE NOT SIMILAR IN ANY WAY!!

Please watch some games before posting nonsense like this.

[Sam I Am]

McFadden will be fine running between the tackles because that's what he does I think. Reggie Bush has always been more of a gimmicky type of player, and people thought he would struggle between the tackles at the NFL level.

But to say Reggie Bush has done nothing is dead wrong. He is one of those guys that defenses have to account for on every play, and is a mismatch nightmare. He's only been in the league two years mind you.

They both go down with contact. I think Bush is a little more fluid in his movements which would make him more elusive.

Either way, you give them a large enough hole, they can hurt you. Neither will be completely dominate in the NFL. They just don't have the ability to break tackles.

[Sam I Am]

REGGIE BUSH AND DARREN MCFADDEN ARE NOT SIMILAR IN ANY WAY!!

Please watch some games before posting nonsense like this.

Neither break tackles very well and that makes them similar. Please which some games before posting nonsense like this. :lmao2: :lmao:

[khiladi]

I know both Rb's arnt exactly the same but very similar, big time speed, average north south runner. Reggie bush was the top prospect in that draft, and alot of people have mcfadden the top prospect. Reggie bush has done nothing since hes been in the nfl and that great speed isnt a great factor and cant do much against nfl defenses. My question is since both are similar in some ways do you see mcfadden ending up like bush a great college player but cant make a living running up the middle in the nfl or will mcfadden be a different story. Your thoughts?

If anything, McFadden is known as an excellent north-south runner. Felix Jones on the other hand, runs primarily to the outside. If outside runner is the knock on choosing a running back, then Felix Jones is the RB we should be wary of.

McFadden played on a crappy offense, while Bush played on a team loaded with offensive talent, especially passing talent. McFadden played in a league that puts out plenty of NFL defensive players, and he still ran all over them. And they were making an effort to put 9 men in the box to stop him

McFadden has a nasty stiff-arm. His upper-body strength, from what I have seen, is impressive. And how does a guy that averages 5 yards a carry in the SEC, despite teams loading the box to stop him, go down on first contact? It makes no sense.

As an interesting aside, McFadden was a defensive back in high-school, and and awesome one at that. I think he may have been recruited to play that by certain schools. He is just that talented, and Reggie Bush is nothing like him.

[BigDave95]

Neither break tackles very well and that makes them similar. Please which some games before posting nonsense like this. :lmao2: :lmao:

If you don't think McFadden breaks tackles well, you are either a fool or have never seen him play.

Oh yeah, I remember you. You base all your McFadden analysis off the Sportscenter highlights you caught.

[BigDave95]

If anything, McFadden is known as an excellent north-south runner. Felix Jones on the other hand, runs primarily to the outside. If outside runner is the knock on choosing a running back, then Felix Jones is the RB we should be wary of.

:hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

This is dead on. Felix is very similar to Reggie Bush. They're both DEADLY in space but not effective at all between the tackles. All of Felix's success came when he was able to get the edge. That will be much harder to do at the next level.

[Sam I Am]

If you don't think McFadden breaks tackles well, you are either a fool or have never seen him play.

Oh yeah, I remember you. You base all your McFadden analysis off the Sportscenter highlights you caught.

Whatever you say buddy. Until you can prove me wrong... I'm the one who is right here.

Show me McFadden prolifically breaking tackles. Thats right. You can't.

[BHendri5]

both guys are extremely talented. They are in the Gale Sayers and Marcus Allen mold.

The problem right now with Bush is not himself, it is with the coaching staff on how to use him.
Right now he is not strong between the tackles, that will come with experience, age (as he slows down) and the added weight that he will eventually put on.

Sean Peyton is so aggressive he is stuck on hitting the big plays all the time, he does not like to grind it out, until he realizes that some games you have to grind it to win

[Sam I Am]

:hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

This is dead on. Felix is very similar to Reggie Bush. They're both DEADLY in space but not effective at all between the tackles. All of Felix's success came when he was able to get the edge. That will be much harder to do at the next level.

...and McFadden won't have grand canyon sized hole to run threw between the tackles in the NFL like he had in college. He will have to break tackles, because the WILL get hands on him.

...something he has shown he isn't very good at.

[BigDave95]

Whatever you say buddy. Until you can prove me wrong... I'm the one who is right here.

Show me McFadden prolifically breaking tackles. Thats right. You can't.

Sure I can. I've got videotaped evidence...proof. It's called game film!!

Maybe you should try watching the guy play before you go around positioning yourself as some kind of expert on him. Anyone who's seen a significant number of his games would tell you that his strength, stiff-arm, and ability to break tackles is one of his greatest strengths.

[BigDave95]

...and McFadden won't have grand canyon sized hole to run threw between the tackles in the NFL like he had in college. He will have to break tackles, because the WILL get hands on him.

...something he has shown he isn't very good at.

Grand Canyon sized holes?!?!!?

He had an average offensive line (at best) and 9 defenders in the box. If anything, he'll have MORE space to run in the NFL assuming he goes to a team that actually has a balanced offense.

[khiladi]

Seriously...

Even if you oppose Jerry making moves to get McFadden, don't downplay this guy...

His only knock is that he fumbles. And fumbles is something that can easily be corrected, as Tiki Barber can testify. It doesn't take genetic gifts to prevent.

Also, I have an issue with people saying his legs are too small. Balance is primarily a matter of the core muscles and body control. Further, shifting weight and changing direction is also related to the core. You can have long legs and still not be taken down that easily. And further, injury is most-foten than not about getting hit at the wrong angle. Getting hit on the knee-cap and tearing your ACL has little to do with the size of your quads. It just means you got hit in the wrong angle. Sparining your ankle has little to do with how much you can squat.

[khiladi]

Whatever you say buddy. Until you can prove me wrong... I'm the one who is right here.

Show me McFadden prolifically breaking tackles. Thats right. You can't.

How does a guy that runs for a 5 YPC average in the SEC, with teams stacking men in the box to stop him, not known for breaking tackles?

[Sam I Am]

Sure I can. I've got videotaped evidence...proof. It's called game film!!

Maybe you should try watching the guy play before you go around positioning yourself as some kind of expert on him. Anyone who's seen a significant number of his games would tell you that his strength, stiff-arm, and ability to break tackles is one of his greatest strengths.

Produce it or move on.

McFadden highlight films (http://youtube.com/results?search_query=Darren+McFadden&search_type=) doesn't show him breaking tackles. Considering breaking tackles is highlight worthy, don't you think it's odd that his highlights do not have many?

Analysis is a skill that requires you to actually do something. It's not listen to Bob's bias, then spew to everyone else that it's fact. College != NFL and McFadden didn't break many tackles in college. In the NFL he will be forced too because he won't have Grand Canyon size holes to run through.

His inability to break tackles will be exposed at the next level.

Ask yourself this. Why are these scouts starting to wavier on their outlook of McFadden? Maybe it's because speed alone doesn't translate to the NFL.

[Sam I Am]

How does a guy that runs for a 5 YPC average in the SEC, with teams stacking men in the box to stop him, not known for breaking tackles?

Because 95+% of SEC college players will never even see the practice squad of an NFL team.

[BigDave95]

Produce it or move on.

McFadden highlight films (http://youtube.com/results?search_query=Darren+McFadden&search_type=) doesn't show him breaking tackles. Considering breaking tackles is highlight worthy, don't you think it's odd that his highlights do not have many?

Analysis is a skill that requires you to actually do something. It's not listen to Bob's bias, then spew to everyone else that it's fact. College != NFL and McFadden didn't break many tackles in college. In the NFL he will be forced too because he won't have Grand Canyon size holes to run through.

His inability to break tackles will be exposed at the next level.

Ask yourself this. Why are these scouts starting to wavier on their outlook of McFadden? Maybe it's because speed alone doesn't translate to the NFL.

Why am I responsible for producing game film for you? Did you not know that these games are televised to a national audience on popular stations such as CBS and ESPN throughout the year? Did you not get that memo?

I wish you could realize what a joke you are producing a 4 minute freakin youtube click as your sole source of knowledge on the topic. Watch some games. Get a clue.

[Sam I Am]

Why am I responsible for producing game film for you? Did you not know that these games are televised to a national audience on popular stations such as CBS and ESPN throughout the year? Did you not get that memo?

I wish you could realize what a joke you are producing a 4 minute freakin youtube click as your sole source of knowledge on the topic. Watch some games. Get a clue.

I can produce and you can't. Enough said.

[khiladi]

Because 95+% of SEC college players will never even see the practice squad of an NFL team.

Uh, the SEC puts out plenty of NFL talent... In the last five years, more than any other conference. They are even better in terms of first and second round selections.

[BigDave95]

Seriously...

Even if you oppose Jerry making moves to get McFadden, don't downplay this guy...

And for what it's worth, I DO NOT think Jerry should trade up and get McFadden. It's a shame the Cleveland pick wasn't any better but given the circumstances as they are now, we have other needs that should be addressed.

But to compare him to Reggie Bush or say he can't break tackles...come on. How ridiculous is that?

[BigDave95]

I can produce and you can't. Enough said.

You produced what? You showed film of him breaking off 80 yard touchdown after 80 yard touchdown. That's your evidence that the guy can't break tackles? It's tough to break tackles when the tackler is 8 yards behind you.

[Sam I Am]

Uh, the SEC puts out plenty of NFL talent... In the last five years, more than any other conference. They are even better in terms of first and second round selections.

Does the entire starting defense of all those teams become NFL starters their rookie season? I don't think so. They aren't NFL quality starters and many will never see the NFL period. So, when McFadden was doing all that running wild, he was NOT doing it against NFL quality players.

I repeat for the 1,000 time. SEC != NFL

[Sam I Am]

You produced what? You showed film of him breaking off 80 yard touchdown after 80 yard touchdown. That's your evidence that the guy can't break tackles? It's tough to break tackles when the tackler is 8 yards behind you.

Of course, you know they don't show you being tackled in highlight films either. Do you actually believe he is going to run like that in the NFL?

Thats right. He won't. If he did, he would make Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Ladainian Tomlinson, and all the other NFL great RBs look like garbage.

You know what all those NFL RBs could do? They weren't all burners like McFadden. Thats right, they could break tackles, and their highlight films prominently show them doing it. Unlike some other future running backs.

You know Adrian Peterson? Yeah, NFL rookie of the year. That guy. His highlight films? Yep, breaking tackles like a madman.

[khiladi]

Does the entire starting defense of all those teams become NFL starters their rookie season? I don't think so. They aren't NFL quality starters and many will never see the NFL period. So, when McFadden was doing all that running wild, he was NOT doing it against NFL quality players.

I repeat for the 1,000 time. SEC != NFL

SO then, I guess you can't ascertain any college player, because

NO COLLEGE CONFERENCE!=NFL

You claim that he can't break tackles, and I said that he averages 5 YPC in a conference that produces more NFL talent than any other conference. That means that he played against the best talent in college, and still averaged 5 YPC. How can that not be indicative that he can break tackles?

Why would you even provide a link to You Tube to prove that McFadden can't break tackles, when he plays against college teams anyways? In fact, how can you ascertain any college player, because none of them play aginst the NFL defenses?

Your logic is just dumb, it's astounidng...

[OldButDeadly]

Seriously, your argument is just dumb.

Seems to me both of your are dumb for this argument....

[threadhijack]

How great would it be to have Reggie Bush type compliment to MBIIII

Freaking awesome it would be!

[/endthreadhijack]

Kevin

[BigDave95]

Your logic is just dumb, it's astounidng...

It really is, isn't it? I feel like I'm arguing with my 6 year old.

It doesn't even make sense to waste time arguing with these youtube analysts. They see 4 minutes of highlights put to music and think they know it all.

[speedkilz88]

Produce it or move on.

McFadden highlight films (http://youtube.com/results?search_query=Darren+McFadden&search_type=) doesn't show him breaking tackles. Considering breaking tackles is highlight worthy, don't you think it's odd that his highlights do not have many?

Analysis is a skill that requires you to actually do something. It's not listen to Bob's bias, then spew to everyone else that it's fact. College != NFL and McFadden didn't break many tackles in college. In the NFL he will be forced too because he won't have Grand Canyon size holes to run through.

His inability to break tackles will be exposed at the next level.

Ask yourself this. Why are these scouts starting to wavier on their outlook of McFadden? Maybe it's because speed alone doesn't translate to the NFL.So your name is Bob.

[BigDave95]

So your name is Bob.

More like Boob.

His contention is that McFadden is simply a speed back who ran through gaping holes and never broke a tackle. Anyone who's ever seen him play in, oh I don't know, AN ACTUAL FOOTBALL GAME...knows how ridiculous this is.

Who likes to watch those football games anyway though? They last longer than 4 minutes and don't have AC/DC playing in the background.

[Sam I Am]

You guys run back out to the kiddie playground before your mom comes looking for you.

http://blogs.trb.com/features/family/parenting/blog/playground-thumb.jpg

Once you graduate with a degree in mathematics or engineering so you at least have some sense of deductive reasoning you can come talk to me.

Until then, arguing logic with you is pointless.

[BigDave95]

Once you graduate with a degree in mathematics or engineering so you at least have some sense of deductive reasoning you can come talk to me.

Until then, arguing logic with you is pointless.

I see. That's what you were doing. You were studying for your mathematics and engineering degrees while the rest of us were watching football games. That does explain why you only have 4 minutes available for your information gathering.

Well done.

[Phrozen Phil]

Why am I responsible for producing game film for you? Did you not know that these games are televised to a national audience on popular stations such as CBS and ESPN throughout the year? Did you not get that memo?

I wish you could realize what a joke you are producing a 4 minute freakin youtube click as your sole source of knowledge on the topic. Watch some games. Get a clue.

I was able to watch an admittedly smal amount of coverage on McFadden this past year. I did see some straight arms and some buting of tackles, but what stood out for mae was the speed. It just seemed that players would set up for hime and he would just run past them before they could make contact. How that translates into the NFL is perhaps the biggest question. He's big, he's fast, and he seems to have a knack for running to daylight. Having said this, there are other impressive RB's in this draft and it makes sense for the Cowboys to get one of them as an upgrade to the running game. Having two backs who can hurt an opposing D would be a major asset heading into next year.

[khiladi]

I see. That's what you were doing. You were studying for your mathematics and engineering degrees while the rest of us were watching football games. That does explain why you only have 4 minutes available for your information gathering.

Well done.

Our college background aside, last time I checked, they don't hire engineers and mathematicians to draft players for the NFL..

And is this is another example of his deductive reasoning skills, he probably was in charge of the civil engineering project that built the bridge that collapsed in Minnesota.

[BraveHeartFan]

So all those highlights of Jones, Johnson, Charles, Stewart, Mendenhall, Rice, and such that just show them running away from guys, or around guys, and scoring long runs means they can't break tackles either?

Where are the highlights that ONLY show great backs breaking tackle after tackle after tackle on their long runs for TDs? I'm sure they all have a highlight here or there that shows them but I don't recall a back, ever, having only highlights that showed him busting tackles.

[BigDave95]

So all those highlights of Jones, Johnson, Charles, Stewart, Mendenhall, Rice, and such that just show them running away from guys, or around guys, and scoring long runs means they can't break tackles either?

Where are the highlights that ONLY show great backs breaking tackle after tackle after tackle on their long runs for TDs? I'm sure they all have a highlight here or there that shows them but I don't recall a back, ever, having only highlights that showed him busting tackles.

Maybe McFadden should have slowed down some and run directly towards the defenders so youtube could get some better clips of him breaking tackles.

[Doomsday101]

If you don't think McFadden breaks tackles well, you are either a fool or have never seen him play.

Oh yeah, I remember you. You base all your McFadden analysis off the Sportscenter highlights you caught.

I agree. Having seen a lot of McFadden over the last 2 years.

Strengths:
An outstanding natural athlete...Has very good size...Excellent timed speed with a burst...Has great vision and instincts...Big play threat who can take it the distance at any time..Elusive with nice feet..Quick and agile...Real strong...Tough and loves contact...Runs hard and does not go down easy...Has decent hands and can be a weapon in the passing game..Plays with a nasty demeanor..Extremely productive.

Weaknesses:
Has some off-the-field and character questions...Legs and lower body are a little thin....Might run too high and open himself up to big hits...Could still improve as a blocker...Does not have a ton of experience as a receiver...Did not really play in a conventional offense in college and shared the workload...Ball security is an issue.

Notes:
Burst onto the scene as a true freshman...The Heisman Trophy runner-up as both a sophomore and a junior...In the summer of '06 he dislocated his toe (which later required surgery) while trying to kick someone during a fight outside a night club at 4am...In January of 2008 was handcuffed during a disturbance outside of a bar shortly after midnight because according to the police report he was agitated and provoking aggressive behavior inciting the incident....Often worked as a shotgun quarterback in the Razorbacks "Wildcat" package and showed the ability to throw the ball...Pure football player with all the physical tools who is as good or perhaps an even better prospect than Adrian Peterson was coming out...A rare talent who should rank amongst the top running backs in the NFL very early in his pro career.
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[Sam I Am]

So all those highlights of Jones, Johnson, Charles, Stewart, Mendenhall, Rice, and such that just show them running away from guys, or around guys, and scoring long runs means they can't break tackles either?

Where are the highlights that ONLY show great backs breaking tackle after tackle after tackle on their long runs for TDs? I'm sure they all have a highlight here or there that shows them but I don't recall a back, ever, having only highlights that showed him busting tackles.

I'm a big Chris Johnson fan. Guess what, his highlights (http://youtube.com/watch?v=f0Wg9i2udw4) actually show him break tackles.

My thoughts are draft two DBs or a DB and a WR in the first, and Chris Johnson in the second. I would be damn happy. (providing that WR wasn't DeSean Jackson of course or Bowman)

[Chocolate Lab]

BigDave, I see this is your first go around with nyc... Next thing you know, your ability to think logically will be questioned. :laugh2:

LOL, in looking back I see you already got that. ;)

[BigDave95]

BigDave, I see this is your first go around with nyc... Next thing you know, your ability to think logically will be questioned. :laugh2:

Was that your analysis of McFadden or was that from another source? I agreed with most of it but have a couple small issues.

[DaBoys4Life]

this thread is laughable at best lol @ highlights showing a player skill

[ThreeSportStar80]

If you equate Bush to DMC you don't know **** about the sport of football.

Amen, DMC is a power runner, people look at his frame and don't think so, he's a Eric Dickerson type running back with world class speed...

[Sam I Am]

BigDave, I see this is your first go around with nyc... Next thing you know, your ability to think logically will be questioned. :laugh2:

LOL, in looking back I see you already got that. ;)

Nah, BigDave consistently spews inept, unfounded, biased opinions as fact.

[Chocolate Lab]

Was that your analysis of McFadden or was that from another source? I agreed with most of it but have a couple small issues.
My analysis? :confused: (Just wondering if you quoted the right person.)

But if it was my post, yes, it was mine. I try to go by my own eyes and not copy what the so-called draft gurus say.

[theogt]

Per usual, nyc got woodshedded in this thread.

[ThreeSportStar80]

McFadden wasn't stopped even when teams knew who was getting the ball, the guy has world class speed, good power and excellent intial burst and very good vision... There is no comparison as far as I'm concerned.

[Sam I Am]

Per usual, nyc got woodshedded in this thread.

Alright Kiper.

[BigDave95]

My analysis? :confused: (Just wondering if you quoted the right person.)

But if it was my post, yes, it was mine. I try to go by my own eyes and not copy what the so-called draft gurus say.

Yes. I was talking about this:

Strengths:
An outstanding natural athlete...Has very good size...Excellent timed speed with a burst...Has great vision and instincts...Big play threat who can take it the distance at any time..Elusive with nice feet..Quick and agile...Real strong...Tough and loves contact...Runs hard and does not go down easy...Has decent hands and can be a weapon in the passing game..Plays with a nasty demeanor..Extremely productive.

Weaknesses:
Has some off-the-field and character questions...Legs and lower body are a little thin....Might run too high and open himself up to big hits...Could still improve as a blocker...Does not have a ton of experience as a receiver...Did not really play in a conventional offense in college and shared the workload...Ball security is an issue.

Notes:
Burst onto the scene as a true freshman...The Heisman Trophy runner-up as both a sophomore and a junior...In the summer of '06 he dislocated his toe (which later required surgery) while trying to kick someone during a fight outside a night club at 4am...In January of 2008 was handcuffed during a disturbance outside of a bar shortly after midnight because according to the police report he was agitated and provoking aggressive behavior inciting the incident....Often worked as a shotgun quarterback in the Razorbacks "Wildcat" package and showed the ability to throw the ball...Pure football player with all the physical tools who is as good or perhaps an even better prospect than Adrian Peterson was coming out...A rare talent who should rank amongst the top running backs in the NFL very early in his pro career.

It's very good. I didn't know if you cut and pasted it off a draft site or it was yours.

My issues:

1) It's the WildHOG not the Wildcat ;) . Houston and the UofA worked hard to rebrand that formation after Gus Malzahn left.
2) I don't think receiving should be listed in his strengths. He did catch the occasional swing pass and did his thing with it but he really struggled with that bubble screen they tried to install for him. He can always work on that but I don't think receiving is a strength at all for him.
3) Under weaknesses, you mention blocking. I think he is an EXCEPTIONAL blocker. I enjoyed watching him destroy linebackers on blitz pickup and he was deadly on Felix's kickoff return. I wish they kept a pancake block stat for returns. He's a willing and physical blocker who's shown very good technique.
4) And finally, I don't think it's fair to say he has character questions. The toe injury occurred when he was fighting with men he was trying to stop from stealing his cousin's car. He had on flip flops and kicked a curb. After that injury it was said he felt terrible about letting his team down. He quit going out and stayed in almost every night. He'd hang out playing video games with friends and improved his studies. He learned from that mistake.

The second incident was at a piano bar and it was his brother involved in a skirmish. The police cuffed him and kept him way off to the side and gave him the VIP treatment to help him out. He was ticked that his brother took a punch but was never involved with the fight at all.

There are plenty of players with legitimate character issues and that's just not Darren McFadden. He's a very good kid. Very respectful and friendly and by no means goes out looking for trouble.

[Chocolate Lab]

Oh no, that isn't my writeup. Someone copied that from some draft site.

BTW, Dave, I'd like to hear your detailed breakdown on Felix. I like him, but I don't think he runs very strong. IMO he has to be out in open space to be effective. What do you think?

[BigDave95]

Oh no, that isn't my writeup. Someone copied that from some draft site.

BTW, Dave, I'd like to hear your detailed breakdown on Felix. I like him, but I don't think he runs very strong. IMO he has to be out in open space to be effective. What do you think?

Agree completely.

In space, he's every bit as deadly as Reggie Bush. It's very cliche to say he can take it to the house every time he touches it, but it's completely true with Felix.

My problem with Felix though is ALL his success came when he was able to get to the corner. Out of the Wildhog, defenses would be packed close to the line of scrimmage and in tight to stop McFadden. Felix would line up in the slot, come in motion, take the handoff (already with a running start), and get to the edge. Once out there, he was phenomenal but how does that really translate to the NFL.

When he was running out of the I, he wasn't nearly that effective. He really struggled in standard formations.

Felix really scares me. While I love the idea of him busting the 70 yard touchdown on a swing pass or sweep, I cringe at the memory of his 2 yard gains up the middle. I don't know which we'd get.

One birght spot though is he is an excellent return man. I'm talking Devin Hester-like on kickoffs. I do think that aspect will translate to the NFL so at the very least, he'll give you that.