Zach Thomas rumor

[ilovejerry]

My uncle ( who lIves in FLA ) just told me that Joe rose radio reported that the Cowboys offered ZT a contract is that true?
sorry if a repost

[TheSkaven]

GETTING CALLS

Rosenhaus said he got several calls from teams interested in Thomas within hours of the player's release. The agent would not disclose what teams had called but did admit he's got a list of teams Thomas would be interested in playing for. Among those are Dallas, New England, Indianapolis and San Diego.

Read the full article here: http://www.miamiherald.com/588/story/419888.html

[AmishCowboy]

would he really fit as an ILB in the 3-4?.

[ThreeSportStar80]

Phillips does run a scheme based on quickness more so than power BUT I still say NO NO NO!

[Yeagermeister]

would he really fit as an ILB in the 3-4?.

No but it could be just to see if the has anything left

[superpunk]

would he really fit as an ILB in the 3-4?.

He and Donnie Edwards are the same weight - Thomas is 3 inches shorter and thus more stout.

He's a heck of a LB - still. He'll fit anywhere he wants to. As long as you're not asking him to take on blockers consistently, he can play LB anywhere.

[ilovejerry]

I would take this guy in a heartbeat, hopefully he brings Jason Taylor with him just for leadership purpose. Get ZT sign him now. A no brainer !!!!!

[ilovejerry]

He and Donnie Edwards are the same weight - Thomas is 3 inches shorter and thus more stout.

He's a heck of a LB - still. He'll fit anywhere he wants to. As long as you're not asking him to take on blockers consistently, he can play LB anywhere.


would you want him? NO BRAINER............

[ilovejerry]

http://www.wqam.com/

Check this out the radio interview.

Come to Dallas Buddy you will get your ring!!!!!

[Mr Cowboy]

We don't want him here, he is just going to take Carp's snaps and stunt his growth...................ummmm, nevermind.

[Hostile]

My uncle ( who lIves in FLA ) just told me that Joe rose radio reported that the Cowboys offered ZT a contract is that true?
sorry if a repostI don't think we can yet. Free Agency doesn't start until the end of the month.

I could be wrong since he was released, but I'm pretty skeptical of that. Hell of a leader and I wouldn't hate it.

[Yeagermeister]

I don't think we can yet. Free Agency doesn't start until the end of the month.

I could be wrong since he was released, but I'm pretty skeptical of that. Hell of a leader and I wouldn't hate it.

Wahle has already signed with Seattle :confused:

[Zimmy Lives]

I don't think we can yet. Free Agency doesn't start until the end of the month.

I could be wrong since he was released, but I'm pretty skeptical of that. Hell of a leader and I wouldn't hate it.

Didn't Wahle already sign with someone? Is a vet FA able to sign a contract anytime? Anyone help!

[Woods]

I don't think we can yet. Free Agency doesn't start until the end of the month.

I could be wrong since he was released, but I'm pretty skeptical of that. Hell of a leader and I wouldn't hate it.

I think if the player is a veteran with something like 4 or more years of experience and they have been cut, they don't have to wait until FA starts.

I think it's either 4 years or 5 years of experience . . . .

[ilovejerry]

I don't think we can yet. Free Agency doesn't start until the end of the month.

I could be wrong since he was released, but I'm pretty skeptical of that. Hell of a leader and I wouldn't hate it.


But his agent is Drew Roesnhause, So anything can happen. who knows . I just would love to see this guy here, Wow im getting giddy woo hoo

[Zimmy Lives]

I think if the player is a veteran with something like 4 or more years of experience and they have been cut, they don't have to wait until FA starts.

I think it's either 4 years or 5 years of experience . . . .

Thanks for the clarification!

[superpunk]

Here's an article of appreciation about Zach Thomas. This is a guy you want influencing your young LBs - it's a far cry from their current "leader", who can't wait for the wounds to heal from a playoff defeat before angling for his release from the team.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspskolnick15sbfeb15,0,1386969.column

This is all you want from your athletes.

You want them to care as much as you do. You want them to wear their real jerseys with the same pride and passion as you wear their replicas.

You want them to play hurt. You want them to hurt most after losses......

Even with Shaggy's help, Scooby couldn't solve crime with the same swiftness that Thomas could crack formations and plays. He was instinctual, yes, but that instinct was the product of design. He was obsessively studious, rewinding tape in dark rooms long after less accomplished teammates had left to study the nightlife.

He was organized, keeping notebooks. And he was just plain intelligent, his nimble mind evident in his approach to everything from all-out blitzes to all-in poker plays.

He was savvy in the way he approached all aspects of his job, benefiting from his understanding that it was a job, his paranoia that someone else could come take it, and his awareness that it extended far beyond the field. He sought every conceivable legal edge, from the hyperbaric chamber to visualization to massage therapy to special diets.

He never seemed comfortable with the notion of leading.

His example did, however.

[dmq]

Can he play safety?

[ilovejerry]

Here's an article of appreciation about Zach Thomas. This is a guy you want influencing your young LBs - it's a far cry from their current "leader", who can't wait for the wounds to heal from a playoff defeat before angling for his release from the team.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspskolnick15sbfeb15,0,1386969.column


:hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

[rickytickycamaro]

I live in Miami and I have seen Zach Thomas as a player and as a great human being in the community. To me this would be the same as the Patriots stealing Wes Welker from the Fins. Remember who is buying the groceries here in Miami. We should definitely try to go after Jason Taylor. We need some "nastiness" in our DEFENSE!

[khiladi]

I live in Miami and I have seen Zach Thomas as a player and as a great human being in the community. To me this would be the same as the Patriots stealing Wes Welker from the Fins. Remember who is buying the groceries here in Miami. We should definitely try to go after Jason Taylor. We need some "nastiness" in our DEFENSE!

It isn't the same thing, simply because Zach Thomas is a concussion away from having serious long-term neurological issues. I would love having him, but it is really in the interests of his own long-term health that he retire.

Concussions are no joke, and considering that Zack Thomas is such a likeable guy, I'd rather have him healthy and retired, than laying out hits, even for the Dallas Cowboys.

[Chief]

I've followed Zach since he signed with Texas Tech out of Pampa High School.

I would love to have him in Dallas and I think he could play in just about any system, but I'm not convinced he's ok physically. That defense definitely needs leaders.

[Doomsday101]

I've followed Zach since he signed with Texas Tech out of Pampa High School.

I would love to have him in Dallas and I think he could play in just about any system, but I'm not convinced he's ok physically. That defense definitely needs leaders.

Ware will be entering his 3rd season you don't see him emerging as the leader of this defense?

[iceberg]

I don't think we can yet. Free Agency doesn't start until the end of the month.

I could be wrong since he was released, but I'm pretty skeptical of that. Hell of a leader and I wouldn't hate it.

i know he was released, but can we trade carpenter for him anyway?

[Woods]

I've followed Zach since he signed with Texas Tech out of Pampa High School.

I would love to have him in Dallas and I think he could play in just about any system, but I'm not convinced he's ok physically. That defense definitely needs leaders.

That sums it up very nicely for me.

[dfense]

Yeah, a really old, small, injury riddled, concussion prone, 4-3 linebacker. That's almost believable.

[speedkilz88]

I think if the player is a veteran with something like 4 or more years of experience and they have been cut, they don't have to wait until FA starts.

I think it's either 4 years or 5 years of experience . . . .

The free agency date is for players under contract. He was released so he is a free agent immediately. Vested veterans can avoid going through waivers where teams can pick up a players current contract when released.(Although I believe there are different rules on that during the season.)

[ilovejerry]

i know he was released, but can we trade carpenter for him anyway?

:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh2: :laugh2:

[ilovejerry]

Yeah, a really old, small, injury riddled, concussion prone, 4-3 linebacker. That's almost believable.


I dont get it?

[Chocolate Lab]

Not only could Thomas show some of these guys what it really means to be a player, but his attitude upgrade over the guy he'd replace could be immense. I saw (they had a webcam) an interview Galloway did at the Super Bowl with Ayodele. I really didn't like the feeling I got from it. He said he was out there as part of the grieving process... Yeah, right. He was out there for the parties, it was obvious.

We all know what a pretty boy Akin is, and he's one of the guys who would fly out to parties in LA during the week. I have a feeling we may have one or two too many players on this team who do too much of that kind of thing.

It doesn't mean Akin is necessarily a bad guy, but still, give me a guy who eats, sleeps, and breathes football every single day over a guy like that any day.

[Duane]

Not only could Thomas show some of these guys what it really means to be a player, but his attitude upgrade over the guy he'd replace could be immense. I saw (they had a webcam) an interview Galloway did at the Super Bowl with Ayodele. I really didn't like the feeling I got from it. He said he was out there as part of the grieving process... Yeah, right. He was out there for the parties, it was obvious.

We all know what a pretty boy Akin is, and he's one of the guys who would fly out to parties in LA during the week. I have a feeling we may have one or two too many players on this team who do too much of that kind of thing.

It doesn't mean Akin is necessarily a bad guy, but still, give me a guy who eats, sleeps, and breathes football every single day over a guy like that any day.

That's the biggest thing we lost when Dat retired.

[sago1]

Jason Garrett was QB coach down in Miami and should know a lot about Thomas and Taylor which he can pass along to Wade -- plus all that film they can study. Don't know how much either has left nor how they'd contribute to our defense. But I think both are leaders but don't know if either are vocal or follow by example type. We need some vocal leaders with high intensity level to consistently fire up our defense and even our offense.

[ilovejerry]

It doesn't mean Akin is necessarily a bad guy, but still, give me a guy who eats, sleeps, and breathes football every single day over a guy like that any day.[/quote]


That's what im talking about.

[Chocolate Lab]

That's the biggest thing we lost when Dat retired.

Exactly. I was thinking earlier how much brainpower and experience would be in the room when Dat and Zach watched film together.

But we miss guys like Dat and Coakley, who never missed a single day of scheduled lifting in like 10 years. :eek:

Way back when we first started discussing this, I thought it would be nice to get Thomas in here. Now, I'm thinking it's a must-do.

C'mon, Jerry, get him to Valley Ranch, show him those Lombardis, and put on your best sales pitch.

[Doomsday101]

At a low cost I have no issue with Thomas, but not a big price for a guy who is on his last leg coming off a season in which he stayed injured? I don't think so I don't care how much rah rah you have it still comes down to getting on the field and performing and producing and if Thomas can't do that then all the rah rah stuff does not mean a thing. BP has enough sense to understand that Thomas is not the same player he once was. You can't live in the past with players it is all about now

[zrinkill]

Cheap this would be a great deal ..... but I would put no money into it.

[Woods]

Cheap this would be a great deal ..... but I would put no money into it.

Ditto.

[ilovejerry]

Cheap this would be a great deal ..... but I would put no money into it.



I dont care, Get it done JERRY....

[Hostile]

He definitely showed class in his radio interview that was posted. Said he could play in a 3-4.

[Duane]

I think Parcells and Ireland just want to blow the whole thing up and start over. Thomas probably has another year or two left in him but in their eyes it's worth it to cut him, along with a lot of other vets, and start from the ground up.

I mean it's not like you can get a whole hell of a lot worse than 1-15. So bringing in a new set of players lets them clean the slate and mold them the way they want to.

[Doomsday101]

I think Parcells and Ireland just want to blow the whole thing up and start over. Thomas probably has another year or two left in him but in their eyes it's worth it to cut him, along with a lot of other vets, and start from the ground up.

I mean it's not like you can get a whole hell of a lot worse than 1-15. So bringing in a new set of players lets them clean the slate and mold them the way they want to.

Yet I'll wager the BP keeps Jason Taylor. I think Thomas has to be looked at as a buyer beware player. He has a great past but he is a LB coming off some major concussion problems that kept him out of the lineup. Personally I think Dallas would be better off passing on Thomas.

[ilovejerry]

I think Parcells and Ireland just want to blow the whole thing up and start over. Thomas probably has another year or two left in him but in their eyes it's worth it to cut him, along with a lot of other vets, and start from the ground up.

I mean it's not like you can get a whole hell of a lot worse than 1-15. So bringing in a new set of players lets them clean the slate and mold them the way they want to.


Thats great were a player or two away from it all. I want ZT and Jason Taylor....

with our defense, you could put Jacques strap back there and he would look like a probowler with the pass rush we would have .......

[Chocolate Lab]

Thomas is older, yes. But mainly, he's just way too small to play in Parcells' scheme. Bradie felt that he had to bulk up from 240 to 265 to hold up against guards every play... Thomas is 240 maxed completely out.

And I suspect that Parcells regrets waiting two years to blow up our defense when he got here, and is determined not to make that mistake (in his eyes) again.

[Woods]

Thomas is older, yes. But mainly, he's just way too small to play in Parcells' scheme. Bradie felt that he had to bulk up from 240 to 265 to hold up against guards every play... Thomas is 240 maxed completely out.

And I suspect that Parcells regrets waiting two years to blow up our defense when he got here, and is determined not to make that mistake (in his eyes) again.

errrrr . . . . you mean, Sparano, right? :D

[khiladi]

Not only could Thomas show some of these guys what it really means to be a player, but his attitude upgrade over the guy he'd replace could be immense. I saw (they had a webcam) an interview Galloway did at the Super Bowl with Ayodele. I really didn't like the feeling I got from it. He said he was out there as part of the grieving process... Yeah, right. He was out there for the parties, it was obvious.

We all know what a pretty boy Akin is, and he's one of the guys who would fly out to parties in LA during the week. I have a feeling we may have one or two too many players on this team who do too much of that kind of thing.

It doesn't mean Akin is necessarily a bad guy, but still, give me a guy who eats, sleeps, and breathes football every single day over a guy like that any day.

Actually, even if he did the latter, I'd still want him gone, because the guy just flat out sucks in coverage, especially zone...

[Clove]

It would be a fantastic move by us. Guy still has it IMO, and I'm pretty sure he's better than both our starting ILBs right now.

[ilovejerry]

It would be a fantastic move by us. Guy still has it IMO, and I'm pretty sure he's better than both our starting ILBs right now.


I concure Clove. Lets see if this get done...

[BAT]

Not only could Thomas show some of these guys what it really means to be a player, but his attitude upgrade over the guy he'd replace could be immense. I saw (they had a webcam) an interview Galloway did at the Super Bowl with Ayodele. I really didn't like the feeling I got from it. He said he was out there as part of the grieving process... Yeah, right. He was out there for the parties, it was obvious.

We all know what a pretty boy Akin is, and he's one of the guys who would fly out to parties in LA during the week. I have a feeling we may have one or two too many players on this team who do too much of that kind of thing.

It doesn't mean Akin is necessarily a bad guy, but still, give me a guy who eats, sleeps, and breathes football every single day over a guy like that any day.

I could not agree more.

Not only would I welcome Thomas to the Cowboys, but Dan Morgan as well.

If healthy (big if) and willing to play at a discount (incentive laden contract), then their additions would bring not only more playmaking, but more leadership, maturity and focus to a very young Defense.

[superpunk]

Here's something miamicowboy posted in the other Thomas thread. Might have been from the same radio interview

Ohh one more tidbit I got from the interview, Thomas said he knew a while back he'd probably get released so he's already broken down film of 9 teams all 16 games that played the dolphins type of defense. The man is a film junkie who prides himself on preperation. Whether he plays for us or not, it would be foolish of us not to take a look. If the pats signed him it would be looked at as pure genius. This team needs some veteran leadership and he's hungry.

The fact that he has looked at us already as a possible destination not only is encouraging from his motivation standpoint, but the fact that such motivation would likely lead to a small contract number. He's singled out winners, and pressure defenses, with big guys up front to keep guards off him. Could lead to an easy negotiation and reasonable contract.

[BraveHeartFan]

The only way to even remotely consider it is at a vet minimum and even then I'd be VERY skeptical cause of his health.

[ilovejerry]

Here's something miamicowboy posted in the other Thomas thread. Might have been from the same radio interview



The fact that he has looked at us already as a possible destination not only is encouraging from his motivation standpoint, but the fact that such motivation would likely lead to a small contract number. He's singled out winners, and pressure defenses, with big guys up front to keep guards off him. Could lead to an easy negotiation and reasonable contract.


Like I said before Drew Rosenhause is his agent and I'm sure he is pushing him towards Dallas.. I don't see him signing with his Rivalry NE or staying in the AFC. And he is from TEXAS so I may be wrong but I think he will be a Cowboy next year..I will be buying that Jersey 4sure!!!!!!

[tyke1doe]

Here's an article of appreciation about Zach Thomas. This is a guy you want influencing your young LBs - it's a far cry from their current "leader", who can't wait for the wounds to heal from a playoff defeat before angling for his release from the team.


Who would that be? :confused:

Porter?

[theogt]

would he really fit as an ILB in the 3-4?.Three of the four teams that reportedly contacted him are 3-4 teams.

[superpunk]

Who would that be? :confused:

Porter?

Greg Ellis.

[HoleInTheRoof]

Zach Thomas seems exactly like the type of player New England would sign.

[Vintage]

I am so for this...

A smart, veteran, fiery type guy to lead the defense. Sounds like something we could use.

I don't care if he is just a situational player....

[Rampage]

he will be 35 at the start of next season. anybody know how he is in coverage?

[Vintage]

he will be 35 at the start of next season. anybody know how he is in coverage?

Can he really be worse than the fantastic duo of James/Ayodele?

[Rampage]

Can he really be worse than the fantastic duo of James/Ayodele?
true. plus he fits right in with this defense already. check this vid out:laugh2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Pp_x8V44w

[khiladi]

true. plus he fits right in with this defense already. check this vid out:laugh2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Pp_x8V44w

Price-less post...

[miamicowboy21]

Zach Thomas seems exactly like the type of player New England would sign. Exactly, so if he's intrested in us I think it would be pure arrogance for us not even to consider him. Like I said earlier the man has survived in this league through mental preperation. He knows he isn't blessed with all the physical tools so he compensates with fim study. This guy has been beaten down by losing and would give his heart and soul just to get to the playoffs. I hate the dolphins, but I have nothing but respect for this guy.

[Chief]

Ware will be entering his 3rd season you don't see him emerging as the leader of this defense?

I'm sure he leads in his own way, but I'm talking about a veteran that is vocal and gets into people's face.

[PullMyFinger]

Can he play safety......Hehe

[CaptainAmerica]

Why would we want a 12 year vet who missed most of the season with post concussion syndrome?