What will happen to Florida and Michigan delegates

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Hillary won both those states handily but will get no delegates from them due to those states holding primaries too early for Howard Dean and the big wigs in the party.

Had she gotten delegates from those states, needless to say she might be ahead.

What is going to happen, will those two states be denied their delegates and be voiceless at the convention?

[Doomsday101]

Hillary won both those states handily but will get no delegates from them due to those states holding primaries too early for Howard Dean and the big wigs in the party.

Had she gotten delegates from those states, needless to say she might be ahead.

What is going to happen, will those two states be denied their delegates and be voiceless at the convention?

Good question and no matter how it is answered 1 side of this debate is going to be angry. I think what will happen is those delegates will go with the front runner as they get close to the National convention. Personally I think the fair thing to do is they should go to Hillary since as you said she won the state. One good thing is the Dems can’t blame the republicans for yet another messed up election process. :laugh2:

[BrAinPaiNt]

At one time I think she could have swayed it so that they let her have those delegates.

However with Obama on this huge surge I think they will do as Dooms said and just leave it be.

[sacase]

They don't get them. No one should get them as all the democrats agreed to not campaign in those states. Only Hillary chose to campaign there at the last minute so the results of those primaries should not be taken into account unless they allowed those states to have another primary. The most fair way to handle the whole situation is to stick by what was originally said. Those states don't get delegates. Trust me if Hillary was winning by a large margin should would not care about those delagates.

[Mavs Man]

This would be like arguing preseason games should count towards your record when the division race is close at the end of the season.

:rolleyes:

[zrinkill]

This would be like arguing preseason games should count towards your record when the division race is close at the end of the season.

Exactly .... she was the only one on the ballot.

[arglebargle]

Good question and no matter how it is answered 1 side of this debate is going to be angry. I think what will happen is those delegates will go with the front runner as they get close to the National convention. Personally I think the fair thing to do is they should go to Hillary since as you said she won the state. One good thing is the Dems can’t blame the republicans for yet another messed up election process. :laugh2:


Yes they can.....The Florida primary was moved up by the Republican majority in the Florida government.

It will be an interesting debate. Obama will push for late Caucuses, and Hillary will want them grandfathered in. Florida might have some traction there as it was at least a somewhat level playing field. However, Obama does better when he has time to campaign in an area. Michagan, however, only had Hillary on the ballot. No way that can be construed as an even playing field.

I think this will backfire on Hillary as another example of desperation. If she loses Ohio and/or Texas, she'll be floundering anyway.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yes they can.....The Florida primary was moved up by the Republican majority in the Florida government.

It will be an interesting debate. Obama will push for late Caucuses, and Hillary will want them grandfathered in. Florida might have some traction there as it was at least a somewhat level playing field. However, Obama does better when he has time to campaign in an area. Michagan, however, only had Hillary on the ballot. No way that can be construed as an even playing field.

I think this will backfire on Hillary as another example of desperation. If she loses Ohio and/or Texas, she'll be floundering anyway.

These are the two reasons it WON'T happen IMO.

Because it makes her look even worse and by that time she may have lost anyways.

What will be interesting, if Obama does indeed win like it looks like he will, will be how she does when she announces she has to step down.

I would hate to be in her camp when that decision comes down as I bet she would sound like a drunken sailor and probably be mean as a rattle snake on a roid rage.:laugh2:

[Mavs Man]

Exactly .... she was the only one on the ballot.

That's an even better point. Undecided had around 40% of the Michigan vote - who gets those delegates?

[arglebargle]

That concession speech will be a bitter pill. We'll get a chance to see how good her acting skills are, when she tries to gracefully concede.

Yeah, I wonder as well whether there will be a great deal of falling on swords in her campaign coterie.

The thing to watch for, I think, is the superdelegates. At some point, having gauged the wind, they are going to start hedging their bets towards Obama. That will be a sure sign that she's lost the party apparatchiks. Dooom will follow....