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zrinkill
02-20-2008, 09:41 PM
:lmao:

After 10 straight victories, Obama's camp claims wide lead and urges Clinton to quit.

Barack Obama's campaign team, riding a wave of 10 straight victories in the contest for the Democratic nomination after wins in Wisconsin and Hawaii, yesterday urged Hillary Clinton to bow to the inevitable and accept defeat.


Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, dismissed the Clinton camp's hopes of making a comeback when the power states of Texas and Ohio hold their primaries on March 4. "This is a wide, wide lead right now," Plouffe said in a conference call with reporters. "The Clinton campaign keeps saying the race is essentially tied. That's just lunacy."


The argument from the Obama camp appears designed to paint Clinton as a nuisance candidate - much like Mike Huckabee, who has continued to fight for the Republican nomination even though it is impossible for him to claw back John McCain's lead in delegates.


It comes at a time when Obama and McCain are increasingly taking swipes at one another on the stump, heightening anticipation that the two will face each other in November's presidential election, and relegating Clinton to a sideshow.


Clinton's hopes of upsetting that equation turn on delivering a convincing performance in tonight's Democratic debate in Austin, Texas, and on gaining traction for her argument that she is the best candidate in a time of deepening economic woes, campaign officials admitted in their own conference call with reporters.


Clinton unrolled the first sign of what her campaign called a harder-edged approach to the economy in a speech in New York and in television advertisements which appeal to nightshift workers. "It is time to get real, to get real about how we actually win this election and get real about the challenges facing America," she said. "I am not running for president to put Band-Aids on our problems. I am running to solve them."


The message was aimed at voters in the ailing industrial state of Ohio, where Clinton needs to win by commanding margins if she is to have a chance of a comeback.


But, as the results from Wisconsin indicated, she is being deserted by even her most ardent supporters: the working-class voters she had been banking on in Ohio and middle-aged white women.


However, campaign officials insisted yesterday Ohio would not follow the trend in every other contest since Super Tuesday on February 5. "Ohio is very different from Wisconsin," said Harold Ickes, a longtime adviser to the Clintons.


The Clinton campaign also appears to have miscalculated with a last-minute burst of negative advertisements in Wisconsin. Her team had accused Obama of plagiarising his speeches from the Democratic governor of Massachusetts, Deval Patrick. But the attacks appeared to have alienated undecideds, who turned to Obama.


As Obama continues to broaden his coalition of supporters, Clinton continues to face a cash crisis. Obama outspent her 4-1 in Wisconsin on advertising. Her campaign officials claimed that they lacked the resources to fight for Wisconsin, even though Clinton raised well over $100m (£51m) last year. She sent an email to supporters urging them to help keep her competitive in the coming contests in Ohio and Texas.


Obama took 58% of the vote in Wisconsin against 41% for Clinton. He did even better in Hawaii, the state where he was born, carrying 76% of the vote.


Both states were relatively small in the delegate count. But the scale of Obama's victories allowed him to extract respectable numbers of delegates under the Democratic party's system of proportional representation. With Wisconsin and Hawaii in his column, Obama now holds a decisive lead in delegates, even factoring in Clinton's earlier advantage because of her support from super delegates.


He also won an endorsement from the powerful Teamsters union yesterday. "There was very, very strong support for him among the union's members," Jim Hoffa, president of the union, said.


The Associated Press yesterday gave Obama 1,336 delegates, against 1,251 for Clinton, putting him closer to the magic figure of 2,025 delegates needed to secure the Democratic nomination. With voting over in all but 14 states, Clinton has relatively few opportunities for a comeback.


On the Republican side, McCain solidified his grip on the Republican nomination with decisive wins over Huckabee in Wisconsin as well as Washington state.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/21/barackobama.hillaryclinton



I am enjoying this as much as the Patriots choke job.

theogt
02-20-2008, 10:02 PM
Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, dismissed the Clinton camp's hopes of making a comeback when the power states of Texas and Ohio hold their primaries on March 4. "This is a wide, wide lead right now," Plouffe said in a conference call with reporters. "The Clinton campaign keeps saying the race is essentially tied. That's just lunacy."

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The Associated Press yesterday gave Obama 1,336 delegates, against 1,251 for Clinton, putting him closer to the magic figure of 2,025 delegates needed to secure the Democratic nomination. With voting over in all but 14 states, Clinton has relatively few opportunities for a comeback.Hmmm...she's 85 delegates behind, and there are 389 delegates at stake between Ohio and Texas (both of which Hilary leads by a significant margin). Yup, sounds like lunacy to me.

Bottom line is if she wins both Texas and Ohio, it's a major 'comeback story' and she's definitely in it.

Achozen
02-20-2008, 10:13 PM
Yes we can!

Big Dakota
02-20-2008, 10:53 PM
The Nazi er neocons better hope Hill loses, cuz Barack will steam roll that mumbling old fart they have. He couldn't inspire a fly to eat a turd.

zrinkill
02-20-2008, 10:54 PM
The Nazi er neocons better hope Hill loses, cuz Barrack will steam roll that mumbling old fart they have. He couldn't inspire a fly to eat a turd.

I think you need to proof read what you write.

Or drink less.

Big Dakota
02-20-2008, 10:59 PM
I think you need to proof read what you write.

Or drink less.
I think you better pull your head out yo arse, the neocons are done in this country.

zrinkill
02-20-2008, 11:03 PM
I think you better pull your head out yo arse, the neocons are done in this country.


Sigh....

You wrote that Neocons better hope Hillary loses because Obama will beat McCain.

That does not make any sense.

Now who's head is up their "arse"?

:lmao:

burmafrd
02-21-2008, 06:59 AM
Actually McCain is pretty decent in debates. Obama will have to give specifics there- no vague speeches. That will be his undoing, since there is no way we can afford all he wants to do and that will be clear to everyone; and if he tries we are going to be like Denmark where the LOWEST tax rate is 70%.

sacase
02-21-2008, 07:16 AM
The Nazi er neocons better hope Hill loses, cuz Barack will steam roll that mumbling old fart they have. He couldn't inspire a fly to eat a turd.

Why is it that librals have to resort to such language. When will liberals realize that most of the country is conservative.

burmafrd
02-21-2008, 08:35 AM
sacase, they don't dare admit that then they have to admit they might be wrong.

BrAinPaiNt
02-21-2008, 08:40 AM
Why is it that librals have to resort to such language. When will liberals realize that most of the country is conservative.

Whether or not most of the country is conservative or not...the current republicans are not exactly conservatives so it might be a wash.

zrinkill
02-21-2008, 08:43 AM
Whether or not most of the country is conservative or not...the current republicans are not exactly conservatives so it might be a wash.

I agree with that

sacase
02-21-2008, 08:51 AM
Whether or not most of the country is conservative or not...the current republicans are not exactly conservatives so it might be a wash.

Oh I agree completely. I think that nither party and their views connect with the majority of voters in this country. Its like a choice between crap and crap w/corn.

iceberg
02-21-2008, 09:22 AM
Hmmm...she's 85 delegates behind, and there are 389 delegates at stake between Ohio and Texas (both of which Hilary leads by a significant margin). Yup, sounds like lunacy to me.

Bottom line is if she wins both Texas and Ohio, it's a major 'comeback story' and she's definitely in it.

i want obama to keep going. now if it's because i like obama or hate hillary the jury is still out. but yes, it's far too early to tell her to quit.

iceberg
02-21-2008, 09:23 AM
I think you better pull your head out yo arse, the neocons are done in this country.

great. now if we could only removed sterotype thinking and immense need to classify everyone who disagrees with the "Liberal" point of view as "neo-cons" maybe we as AMERICANS can start getting crap done.

Mavs Man
02-21-2008, 10:03 AM
Clinton: If I can only win Texas and Ohio, I'm right back in this race.

Obama: You can forget it! You're out!

Clinton: Don't you do it! Don't! You... I got nowhere else to go! I got nowhere else to g... I got nothin' else!

iceberg
02-21-2008, 10:05 AM
don't see too many 'gentlemen' in politics.

MAYO-NAZE!!!!!

BrAinPaiNt
02-21-2008, 10:09 AM
Oh I agree completely. I think that nither party and their views connect with the majority of voters in this country. Its like a choice between crap and crap w/corn.

Nobody likes crap with corn. :p:

Mavs Man
02-21-2008, 10:11 AM
don't see too many 'gentlemen' in politics.

MAYO-NAZE!!!!!

:laugh2:

Glad someone got it.

That scene also reminds me of Chris Farley's spoof in Wayne's World 2.

big dog cowboy
02-21-2008, 10:12 AM
I am enjoying this as much as the Patriots choke job.
I'm right there with you.

Asking Hillary to quit at this point is just wrong but ever so funny.

Sasquatch
02-21-2008, 10:13 AM
Title of article seems a bit misleading. I haven't read anything about the Obama campaign actually urging Hillary to drop out, although a dramatic comeback is highly unlikely as it will require 15-20% margins of victory in each of the remaining contests.

zrinkill
02-21-2008, 10:20 AM
the neocons are done in this country.

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/18/picking-a-past-president-to-lead/

BrAinPaiNt
02-21-2008, 11:39 AM
http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/18/picking-a-past-president-to-lead/

Not sure what you mean by this link.

zrinkill
02-21-2008, 12:42 PM
Not sure what you mean by this link.

He said Conservatives are done in this country .... Yet Reagan had 22% of the past president vote.

Was just demonstrating that the Conservative movement is far from dead.

ScipioCowboy
02-21-2008, 12:45 PM
Whether or not most of the country is conservative or not...the current republicans are not exactly conservatives so it might be a wash.

Is that wisdom from the keyboard of Brainpaint?

Wow.;)

ThreeSportStar80
02-21-2008, 01:06 PM
You have to look at the distribution of delegates throughout the state of Texas and it favors Sen. Obama heavily....

BrAinPaiNt
02-21-2008, 01:38 PM
He said Conservatives are done in this country .... Yet Reagan had 22% of the past president vote.

Was just demonstrating that the Conservative movement is far from dead.

There is a difference between conservatives and NEO-cons.

BrAinPaiNt
02-21-2008, 01:39 PM
Is that wisdom from the keyboard of Brainpaint?

Wow.;)

I have my moments of clarity.:p:

zrinkill
02-21-2008, 01:42 PM
There is a difference between conservatives and NEO-cons.


Well he called me a "Neo-Con" ..... so I assumed he calls everyone who is conservative that.

You know my views BP ..... I am hardly a "neo-nazi" as he put it.

Just look at the post that guy makes on this board ..... I am sure he considers Reagan a "Neo-Con" as well.

iceberg
02-21-2008, 01:59 PM
There is a difference between conservatives and NEO-cons.

depends on who you talk to bp. i'd agree. most logical people would. but then most logical people don't have hillary clinton underoos with the little footsies and unbutton bottoms either.

there are people out there that are "if you're not this way, you're that" and there simply is no inbetween.

BrAinPaiNt
02-21-2008, 03:30 PM
Well he called me a "Neo-Con" ..... so I assumed he calls everyone who is conservative that.

You know my views BP ..... I am hardly a "neo-nazi" as he put it.

Just look at the post that guy makes on this board ..... I am sure he considers Reagan a "Neo-Con" as well.

I get ya.:cool:

BrAinPaiNt
02-21-2008, 03:31 PM
depends on who you talk to bp. i'd agree. most logical people would. but then most logical people don't have hillary clinton underoos with the little footsies and unbutton bottoms either.

there are people out there that are "if you're not this way, you're that" and there simply is no inbetween.

I think you should play both ways...that way it increases your chances for a date on the weekends.:p: ;)

iceberg
02-21-2008, 03:45 PM
I think you should play both ways...that way it increases your chances for a date on the weekends.:p: ;)

yea, but the one thing keeping me straight, or at least one OF the things is - i don't know if i could handle both genders rejecting me.