Moss not franchised

[COfWaBnOY]

R Moss wasn't tagged so when the Cowboys sing him what will his number be ..... 18 ??? .......... :rolleyes:

**SIGN** some fingers move faster than others....... :p:

[The Panch]

Just saw it on NFL Live. Im a little surprised.

[5Stars]

No, everyone!

Let's not, OK?


:cool:

[COfWaBnOY]

No, everyone!

Let's not, OK?


:cool:

I already did ..... http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113112 ..... before this thread was posted. Notice the :rolleyes: HOWEVER!

[Woods]

No, everyone!

Let's not, OK?


:cool:

Do you think, that maybe Moss and TO . . . . :D

[REDVOLUTION]

R Moss wasn't tagged so when the Cowboys sing him what will his number be ..... 18 ??? .......... :rolleyes:

We plan on serenading him?? :eek::lmao2:

[dallasfaniac]

We plan on serenading him?? :eek::lmao2:

At least we won't try to singe him.

[COfWaBnOY]

We plan on serenading him?? :eek::lmao2:

As long as it's not Show Me the Money ..... :laugh2: ..... oops!

[TheCount]

Well unlike most of the receivers this board is full of people talking about (Roy, Fitz, Walker), Moss is actually on the market. This would be the most realisitc conversation regarding a WR we've had in a while.

[Matt]

Will this be the "wow" we've been waiting to hear?

Owens, Moss, Witten, Crayton, Barber, Romo, McFadden..

This would be a dream.

[iceberg]

so plug in your xbox and make it happen!!!

we don't have that kinda of FA money really.

[5Stars]

Will this be the "wow" we've been waiting to hear?

Owens, Moss, Witten, Crayton, Barber, Romo, McFadden..

This would be a dream.


Moss not franchised? WOW...first I heard of that!?

:eek:

[Woods]

Well unlike most of the receivers this board is full of people talking about (Roy, Fitz, Walker), Moss is actually on the market. This would be the most realisitc conversation regarding a WR we've had in a while.

I don't really see him coming to Dallas.

If Moss is smart (?), he should re-sign with the Pats.

He's got a great QB throwing him the ball, he's on a high quality team with a chance at winning a ring, and he's the sole number 1 WR. In Dallas, Moss and TO co-existing with each wanting the ball more than the other, IMO, would be a challenge.

[TheCount]

I don't really see him coming to Dallas.

If Moss is smart (?), he should re-sign with the Pats.

He's got a great QB throwing him the ball, he's on a high quality team with a chance at winning a ring, and he's the sole number 1 WR. In Dallas, Moss and TO co-existing with each wanting the ball more than the other, IMO, would be a challenge.

I don't see it either, I'm just saying he's on the market so it's no more ridiculous than those threads about trading for Roy Williams.

[Woods]

I don't see it either, I'm just saying he's on the market so it's no more ridiculous than those threads about trading for Roy Williams.

True . . . .

That said, I really hope he doesn't end up in the NFC East.

[BBQ101]

I don't really see him coming to Dallas.

If Moss is smart (?), he should re-sign with the Pats.

He's got a great QB throwing him the ball, he's on a high quality team with a chance at winning a ring, and he's the sole number 1 WR. In Dallas, Moss and TO co-existing with each wanting the ball more than the other, IMO, would be a challenge.

Challenge? Yeah, to opossing DBs. Good lord what a combo that would be.

By the way, who caught the most balls for the Pats last year? Hint...it wasn't Moss.

BBQ

[CaptainAmerica]

How could the Pats franchise him? With his attitude, can you imagine if they prevented him from hitting theopen market after he agreed to a reduced deal last year?

[Woods]

Challenge? Yeah, to opossing DBs. Good lord what a combo that would be.

By the way, who caught the most balls for the Pats last year? Hint...it wasn't Moss.

BBQ

I know Welker caught more balls last year, but I'm talking about egos here.

I don't really see both TO and Moss co-existing.

[miamicowboy21]

So how much loot does philly throw his way? Mcnabb and Westbrook have been vocal about adding playmakers. I still say he ends up back in new england.

[BBQ101]

I know Welker caught more balls last year, but I'm talking about egos here.

I don't really see both TO and Moss co-existing.


I must admit I agree. But what if they could? Who here thought TO would act as he has the passed two seasons. How much do they both want a ring?

How would you stop TO, Moss, Witten, Barber with Romo at the helm.

I love this part of the season. It's all a dream.

BBQ

[TheSkaven]

I'm starting to think that this could actually happen. Remember, none of us seriously thought Terrell Owens would ever be a Cowboy.

[Yeagermeister]

I'm starting to think that this could actually happen. Remember, none of us seriously thought Terrell Owens would ever be a Cowboy.

If it does Romo better learn to throw two balls at once because neither Moss or TO will be happy if he isn't getting the ball thrown to him. Hell, TO already whines if he's not thrown the ball every down. :D

[5Stars]

If it does Romo better learn to throw two balls at once because neither Moss or TO will be happy if he isn't getting the ball thrown to him. Hell, TO already whines if he's not thrown the ball every down. :D


He could! The man boy is majik...


;)

[miamicowboy21]

No way this happens. Moss was in the best situation last season. The pats won super bowls before moss, so he had no choice but to conform. He'd run circles around phillips. No coach could keep these two egos in check. Jerry is smart to realize oil and water don't mix.

[Gryphon]

The Patriots have elected not to place the franchise tag on Randy Moss.

It's a surprising development, although it probably doesn't mean anything. By rule, the Patriots couldn't announce a new contract with Moss until the new league year starts on February 29. Speculation around Boston is that the two sides may have reached a long-term agreement already, but that can't be verified.
Source: Boston Globe

[zeromaster]

If it does Romo better learn to throw two balls at once because neither Moss or TO will be happy if he isn't getting the ball thrown to him. Hell, TO already whines if he's not thrown the ball every down. :D
Where do you get this stuff anyway?

[Future]

This is jaw-dropping to me. The guy said he wants to stay a Patriot...they probably won't sign him long term, makes sense to get at least one more year out of him while he's still a dominant WR.

[Hoofbite]

Will this be the "wow" we've been waiting to hear?

Owens, Moss, Witten, Crayton, Barber, Romo, McFadden..

This would be a dream.

Be a nightmare. It would cost so much for Moss and then cost so much in picks and money for McFadden that dallas would be handcuffed for a while.

[Hoofbite]

The Patriots have elected not to place the franchise tag on Randy Moss.

It's a surprising development, although it probably doesn't mean anything. By rule, the Patriots couldn't announce a new contract with Moss until the new league year starts on February 29. Speculation around Boston is that the two sides may have reached a long-term agreement already, but that can't be verified.
Source: Boston Globe


That makes no sense at all. Hes still under contract with them, why couldn't they sign him to an extension?

[TheCount]

This is jaw-dropping to me. The guy said he wants to stay a Patriot...they probably won't sign him long term, makes sense to get at least one more year out of him while he's still a dominant WR.

What I want to know is what exactly happens with all this money they don't ever spend, does it go in Krafts wallet?

[TheCount]

This is jaw-dropping to me. The guy said he wants to stay a Patriot...they probably won't sign him long term, makes sense to get at least one more year out of him while he's still a dominant WR.

What are the Pats cap numbers?

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Dalllas should sign Randy Moss. Given the history, it's only destiny that Moss becomes a Cowboy. It would also be interesting to finally have him and Greg Ellis on the same team, given that Ellis was chosen over Randy. I mean, just imagine how much fun it will be to hear Ellis chatter about his uncertainties with Moss around! :lmao:

AF

[Woods]

Dalllas should sign Randy Moss. Given the history, it's only destiny that Moss becomes a Cowboy. It would also be interesting to finally have him and Greg Ellis on the same team, given that Ellis was chosen over Randy. I mean, just imagine how much fun it will be to hear Ellis chatter about his uncertainties with Moss around! :lmao:

AF

We'd have to give him Linus' security blanket . . . . :)

[Gryphon]

From Mike Florio's Sporting Blog:

7. Jerry Jones will make a big splash

With another embarrassing and early exit from the playoffs and a new stadium on the horizon, Cowboys owner/GM Jerry Jones will feel compelled to make a big splash this offseason. The most popular speculation is he'll trade his two first-round picks and running back Marion Barber (a restricted free agent) to the Miami Dolphins for the No. 1-overall selection in the NFL Draft. Jones then could select Arkansas running back Darren McFadden.

That's not the only power play Jones might make. With wide receiver Randy Moss hitting the open market Feb. 29 -- unless the Patriots use the franchise tag on him -- hauling in the single-season touchdown receptions leader would create a compelling Texas tandem of Terrell Owens and Moss.

There is only one football, though, and that could create a problem. Likewise, Jones would have to give Owens, who is entering the final year of his contract, a big raise to ensure there would be no locker-room rivalry.

Regardless of whether he acquires McFadden, Moss or someone else, count on one thing: Jones will do something big aimed at making his team better.

[Signals]

Do you think, that maybe Moss and TO . . . . :D
Only if TO increases the dosage on his "good Behavior" pills. :D

[Rampage]

From Mike Florio's Sporting Blog:

7. Jerry Jones will make a big splash

With another embarrassing and early exit from the playoffs and a new stadium on the horizon, Cowboys owner/GM Jerry Jones will feel compelled to make a big splash this offseason. The most popular speculation is he'll trade his two first-round picks and running back Marion Barber (a restricted free agent) to the Miami Dolphins for the No. 1-overall selection in the NFL Draft. Jones then could select Arkansas running back Darren McFadden.

That's not the only power play Jones might make. With wide receiver Randy Moss hitting the open market Feb. 29 -- unless the Patriots use the franchise tag on him -- hauling in the single-season touchdown receptions leader would create a compelling Texas tandem of Terrell Owens and Moss.

There is only one football, though, and that could create a problem. Likewise, Jones would have to give Owens, who is entering the final year of his contract, a big raise to ensure there would be no locker-room rivalry.

Regardless of whether he acquires McFadden, Moss or someone else, count on one thing: Jones will do something big aimed at making his team better.
do you have a link to this blog?

[TheCount]

We'd have to give him Linus' security blanket . . . . :)

Sorry, the image just struck me as funny... so I made this. :o:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h77/legendz28/Ellis-Linus.jpg

[Gryphon]

do you have a link to this blog?

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=345844

[Rampage]

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=345844
thanks, but it stops at #5:confused:

[RealCowboyfan]

I would love for Barber, Moss, McFadden, Owens, Witten, and Tony Curtis to co-exist... My goodness, the NFL would be in some serious trouble if that would happen.

Romo will be traded if he can't win a superbowl with this combination.

[The Panch]

I would love for Barber, Moss, McFadden, Owens, Witten, and Tony Curtis to co-exist... My goodness, the NFL would be in some serious trouble if that would happen.

Romo will be traded if he can't win a superbowl with this combination.
We dont have to worry about it being a combination.



rofl @ throwing Tony Curtis in there.

[SquiggDoggs]

so plug in your xbox and make it happen!!!

we don't have that kinda of FA money really.

las time I checked we are $20 million under the cap. So getting Moss would be tougher to get on xBox

[BraveHeartFan]

I'm surprised that they didn't franchise him but I have to believe they didn't cause they feel pretty good about the ability to resign him.

Either way I very seriously doubt there is any shot, at all, that we even attempt to sign him.

[REDVOLUTION]

Will this be the "wow" we've been waiting to hear?

Owens, Moss, Witten, Crayton, Barber, Romo, McFadden..

This would be a dream.

I would love for Barber, Moss, McFadden, Owens, Witten, and Tony Curtis to co-exist... My goodness, the NFL would be in some serious trouble if that would happen.

Romo will be traded if he can't win a superbowl with this combination.



Guys... I know it sounds good... but the "Dream Team" lost to the Giants when it mattered most.

I will pass on Moss and the "stuff" that comes with him

[big dog cowboy]

las time I checked we are $20 million under the cap.
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111299

[BraveHeartFan]

Guys... I know it sounds good... but the "Dream Team" lost to the Giants when it mattered most.

I will pass on Moss and the "stuff" that comes with him

They did lose, yes, but comparing the combination of Donte, Moss, and Welker to a combination that puts Moss and Owens on the field at the same time simply isn't possible.

No matter who else dallas throws out there the combination of Moss and Owens is better than what the Patriots had.

Not advocating the idea of bringing in Moss, just saying.

[REDVOLUTION]

They did lose, yes, but comparing the combination of Donte, Moss, and Welker to a combination that puts Moss and Owens on the field at the same time simply isn't possible.

No matter who else dallas throws out there the combination of Moss and Owens is better than what the Patriots had.

Not advocating the idea of bringing in Moss, just saying.

Ok... so balance it out with Brady > Romo if it helps you.

I said "Dream Team"... I didnt say that it was an identical match one to one.

[InmanRoshi]

I still don't think he'll hit the open market, but if the Cowboys are willing to sign Tank 'Actually Served Prison Time' Johnson don't tell me Randy Moss has too much baggage. If the Cowboys are looking at Marty friggin Booker, they'll be on Moss like white on rice.

[The Panch]

I still don't think he'll hit the open market, but if the Cowboys are willing to sign Tank 'Actually Served Prison Time' Johnson don't tell me Randy Moss has too much baggage.
It has nothing to do with baggage. Moss and Owens egos would never be able to co-exist. Moss has shown no respect for Owens in past years and Owens, even tho he's been somewhat complimentary of Moss, doesnt exactly seem like he wants to be on the same team with him. Plus, if Moss were to come to Dallas, his contract would be staggering and you know Owens would be looking to reconstruct the last year of his deal. And once one starts having two big games in a row while the other cant get the ball, true colors will start to show. Owens was basically taking all the credit for Witten's performance in Detroit(tho not entirely untrue), just imagine what he'll do to someone he's not all that fond of.



And amidst all of this, as much as people wanna call Moss the best WR in the league right now, he's a very one dimensional receiver and Romo doesnt have the arm to get the ball to him consistently when all he does is run vertically 95% of the time to try and outrun coverage. He only runs slants and hits the middle of the field late in the game when he hasnt been a factor do to deep coverage (ex. Colts game/the SB).

[Bob Sacamano]

well I was wrong, I definitely thought he was getting the tag

funny how they tag Deion Branch, but not Randy Moss

I wouldn't be suprised to see Danny Boy go hard-core after him

[InmanRoshi]

And amidst all of this, as much as people wanna call Moss the best WR in the league right now, he's a very one dimensional receiver and Romo doesnt have the arm to get the ball to him consistently when all he does is run vertically 95% of the time to try and outrun coverage. He only runs slants and hits the middle of the field late in the game when he hasnt been a factor do to deep coverage (ex. Colts game/the SB).

How do you manage to fit so much FAIL into so few words?

[actual29]

i dont see us signing him....
BUT!
out of all the scenarios we've been discussing (d-mac, fitzgerald, r. williams, etc)

this is the only one that would make me say "WOW"

[gimmesix]

How would Moss and Owens share the No. 81 jersey?

Touchdown celebration contest decides who gets it, the other pouts all season?

[Bob Sacamano]

i dont see us signing him....
BUT!
out of all the scenarios we've been discussing (d-mac, fitzgerald, r. williams, etc)

this is the only one that would make me say "WOW"

kick-ash sig

[actual29]

How would Moss and Owens share the No. 81 jersey?

Touchdown celebration contest decides who gets it, the other pouts all season?
they should have a td dance off to decide!! Loll

but seriously, owens would keep it.... cause he's had it since he came to the nfl; moss didn't

TO = original 81

[actual29]

kick-ash sig
thanks man
made it myself (1st sig ive ever attempted) :D

[Bob Sacamano]

thanks man
made it myself (1st sig ive ever attempted) :D

I love it

[SuspectCorner]

Team chemistry over superstars at every position. Moss is a non-fit...

[dadymat]

It has nothing to do with baggage. Moss and Owens egos would never be able to co-exist. Moss has shown no respect for Owens in past years and Owens, even tho he's been somewhat complimentary of Moss, doesnt exactly seem like he wants to be on the same team with him. Plus, if Moss were to come to Dallas, his contract would be staggering and you know Owens would be looking to reconstruct the last year of his deal. And once one starts having two big games in a row while the other cant get the ball, true colors will start to show.


Can you or anyone else give me 1 instance where Randy Or T.O. ever got upset and complained about not getting ball when the team is winning...................?

to get upset when the team is losing is a whole different animal...........I think they would thrive off each other and would take pride in striking fear into other teams............thats my personal opinion....

[dadymat]

thanks man
made it myself (1st sig ive ever attempted) :D


yes its sweet sig..........I wish someone would make me one i have one in mind just dont have the skills....

[actual29]

yes its sweet sig..........I wish someone would make me one i have one in mind just dont have the skills....
thanks!!!

what'd you have in mind for yourself?

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Read every response in this thread.

Three things really jump out at me.

How many of you guys see no possibility of this happening.

How many of you really dont want to see it happen.

That not one of you could considered the upside.

Not one of you thought having both 2007 All Pro starting WR's on the same offense was a good thing. This is mind blowing.

Dont you people see how complimentary their skills sets are?

Owens is a beast. 6-3 220 plus. Strong and fast. Although he can play outside the numbers downfield, his really excels inside the numbers, within 5 to 10 yards of the LOS where his run after the catch and tackle breaking ability come into play. His size to speed ratio, ability to break press coverage and play close to the LOS is second to none.
Moss at 6-4 200 is the exact opposite. He will go over the middle and take the hit when he needs to. But his real game is outside the numbers downfield. I've never seen a WR with anything close to Moss's downfield ball skills and catching radius. His speed, quickness and ability to oncover downfield is second to none.

With Moss our 2008 offense could be as good as the 2007 Patriots.


Just gonna cut and paste this in each Moss thread til we sign him!

[Romo2Dez4six]

moss goes to Baltimore JMO:p:

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Read every response in this thread.

Three things really jump out at me.

How many of you guys see no possibility of this happening.

How many of you really dont want to see it happen.

That not one of you could considered the upside.

Not one of you thought having both 2007 All Pro starting WR's on the same offense was a good thing. This is mind blowing.

Dont you people see how complimentary their skills sets are?

Owens is a beast. 6-3 220 plus. Strong and fast. Although he can play outside the numbers downfield, his really excels inside the numbers, within 5 to 10 yards of the LOS where his run after the catch and tackle breaking ability come into play. His size to speed ratio, ability to break press coverage and play close to the LOS is second to none.
Moss at 6-4 200 is the exact opposite. He will go over the middle and take the hit when he needs to. But his real game is outside the numbers downfield. I've never seen a WR with anything close to Moss's downfield ball skills and catching radius. His speed, quickness and ability to oncover downfield is second to none.

With Moss our 2008 offense could be as good as the 2007 Patriots.


Just gonna cut and paste this in each Moss thread til we sign him!

A TO-Moss duo would be unstoppable...in Madden 09. In the real world, where you have to factor egos and personalities into the equation it's a different story.

We're talking about two of the biggest prima donnas in all of pro sports. The idea that they could somehow coexist is pure fantasy.

[BraveHeartFan]

While I'm in total agreement with everyone who says there is no chance of this, cause there simply isn't, I do not agree with Panch on the idea that Romo doesn't have the arm strength to hit Moss in stride on 40 and 50 yard routes. He hit T.O. on a few of them just this year (second Giants game and the first Washington game) and he managed to have enough arm to be able to overthrow T.O. (Second Philly game) on a streak down the right sideline.

So, no, there is nothing wrong with his arm. If he has a clean pocket, and can step up into the throw (Like Brady was allowed) then he'd have zero issue hitting Moss.

But I agree with everything else. There is no way these two (Owens and Moss) can play on the same team.

[zrinkill]

This would remind me of when Jones lured Deion from San Fran

Weaken your main rival while making you stronger.

These 2 guys would either bond or would rip the team apart.

[BraveHeartFan]

lol

Well it's a fun comparison but the Patriots aren't exactly the main rival of the Cowboys, and especially not the way the Niners were in the 90's.