Race tightens in TX, OH, and PA

[Sasquatch]

It's looking increasingly like the Clinton campaign is the one based on false optimism and hope.

OH and TX (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/02/tight_races_in.html)

PA (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/cityregion/s_553459.html)

[Aikbach]

They both are revolting choices and McCain is worthy of a nose hold himself.

[LatinMind]

Obama easy wins. the've been saying for awhile now all these states are close, but when it comes time, obama is winning easily

[CanadianCowboysFan]

They both are revolting choices and McCain is worthy of a nose hold himself.

how will the fact McCain was banging one of his staff members play out with Republican voters?

[BrAinPaiNt]

how will the fact McCain was banging one of his staff members play out with Republican voters?

They will be thrilled that it was a heterosexual affair? :p:

[CanadianCowboysFan]

They will be thrilled that it was a heterosexual affair? :p:

lol, good one

[Danny White]

how will the fact McCain was banging one of his staff members play out with Republican voters?
I'm not surprised he'd do it... I'm just surprised she'd let that moldy old fart climb on top of her. :puke:

[rbr651]

how will the fact McCain was banging one of his staff members play out with Republican voters?

Maybe you should stick with issues concerning parliment, and leave your big brother alone....:eek:

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Maybe you should stick with issues concerning parliment, and leave your big brother alone....:eek:

It's Parliament.

Given the choice of President will have an effect on the western world, what happens to our big sister certainly has an effect on us.

[burmafrd]

Not suprising the Lib would automatically think the NY Times is telling the truth- which if you read the article puts the National Enquirer to shame for inuendo.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Not suprising the Lib would automatically think the NY Times is telling the truth- which if you read the article puts the National Enquirer to shame for inuendo.

I am shocked if anyone is shocked this is coming out or if other stuff comes out.

Even Republicans and/or conservatives knew there would this type of stuff coming out with affairs or the Keating 5 being mentioned over and over.

Sadly it is what politics is.

I guess it is better than claiming he had an illegitimate black child like the rove camp pulled years back.

[burmafrd]

Or how about accusing Bush Sr of making a deal with Iran over the hostages?
That was long before Rove was around, Brain.

[big dog cowboy]

Not suprising the Lib would automatically think the NY Times is telling the truth- which if you read the article puts the National Enquirer to shame for inuendo.
What's sad is how many people WILL believe it.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Or how about accusing Bush Sr of making a deal with Iran over the hostages?
That was long before Rove was around, Brain.

It is politics. I have no love if either party does it. I don't like it no matter who does it.
But don't be all shocked when more of this stuff comes out with McCain...because it will.

[burmafrd]

And our so called honest media like CNN, NBC, etc just use it too. Do not bother to do their own research= just mindlessly parrot a newspapers who's BIAS has been clear for some time.
By the way= this article had been in the works for months- so why did the NYT endorse McCain on Jan 25, 2008?

[Doomsday101]

I love OBama and Hillary stance on immigration; basically do nothing except make around 20 million legal. Yeah that will halt the massive flow of illegal’s coming into this country. Believe me if you don't live on a boarder state then you don't know the extent of the problem. Here in Harris County alone we have spent over 600 million on emergency medical care for illegals within the last 3 years. This is money that is coming right out of the Harris County tax payer’s pockets from our ever increasing property taxes.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I love OBama and Hillary stance on immigration; basically do nothing except make around 20 million legal. Yeah that will halt the massive flow of illegal’s coming into this country. Believe me if you don't live on a boarder state then you don't know the extent of the problem. Here in Harris County alone we have spent over 600 million on emergency medical care for illegals within the last 3 years. This is money that is coming right out of the Harris County tax payer’s pockets from our ever increasing property taxes.

I don't like any of the people's plans...including McCain and even the current President.

I think that until you build some sort of wall to stop the influx of people...you are just spinning your wheels dealing with the ones that are already here illegally.

[Doomsday101]

I don't like any of the people's plans...including McCain and even the current President.

I think that until you build some sort of wall to stop the influx of people...you are just spinning your wheels dealing with the ones that are already here illegally.

I agree. While I support Bush on some issues I have major differences on immigrations reform. We have laws on the book, enforce them once and for all and 2 strengthen boarder security. I have nothing against immigrants who come into the country legally but this massive flow of illegals is extremely costly and has to be stopped

[CanadianCowboysFan]

if the story is true about the lobbyist (sorry wasn't a staff member), can't say I blame the old coot, she is pretty good looking

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I agree. While I support Bush on some issues I have major differences on immigrations reform. We have laws on the book, enforce them once and for all and 2 strengthen boarder security. I have nothing against immigrants who come into the country legally but this massive flow of illegals is extremely costly and has to be stopped

as long as the border guards up at the northern end stop asking stupid questions like what are you going to buy at Macy's when I say I am going to Bellingham to shop, add extra security, that is fine by me.

[Doomsday101]

as long as the border guards up at the northern end stop asking stupid questions like what are you going to buy at Macy's when I say I am going to Bellingham to shop, add extra security, that is fine by me.

At the end of the day at least you go back home. :laugh2:

[zrinkill]

I think a wall should be put up between the U.S. and Canada just like between the U.S. and Mexico.

I think the U.S. Canada border is a bigger security risk than Mexico.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I think a wall should be put up between the U.S. and Canada just like between the U.S. and Mexico.

I think the U.S. Canada border is a bigger security risk than Mexico.

sure it is :rolleyes:

[zrinkill]

sure it is :rolleyes:

Al-Qaeda Seeks Canadian Operatives


It stands to reason that Canadians who grew up 200 miles from Detroit are a better bet to navigate America's anti-terror tripwires than, say, native-born Kuwaitis or Yemenis. That's why the FBI and CIA were so concerned about Abdulrahman Mansour Jabarah, 24, an al-Qaeda suspect killed on July 3 by Saudi authorities in a firefight near the Jordanian border.

Jabarah is the older brother of Mohammed "Sammy" Jabarah, who is currently in U.S custody and has, according to U.S. officials, admitted involvement in a series of al-Qaeda plots in Southeast Asia. What marks the Jabarah brothers as somewhat unique among al-Qaeda operatives is their background as Canadians — their Iraqi father and Kuwaiti mother had emigrated to St. Catherines, Ontario, about 200 miles north of Detroit, in 1994. The boys are believed to have traveled to Pakistan and joined Al Qaeda in the late 1990s, and despite his relative youth, one U.S. official describes the brother killed last week as "a nasty, nasty man."

The FBI believes that al-Qaeda recruiters are aggressively enrolling youths like the Jabarahs, with U.S., Canadian or Western European passports and good command of the English language and the North American interior. While the network had always tried to recruit people with U.S. and other Western passports, FBI counter-terrorism chief Larry Mefford recently revealed that al-Qaeda was "refocusing its efforts" to sign on disaffected Americans, green-card holders and Muslims who had spent time in the U.S. as students or visitors who had a good command of English and a working knowledge of American society and culture. This effort comes in response to the Bush administration's tightening up the supply of visas available to would-be visitors from nations such as Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, Pakistan, Egypt and Southeast Asian countries where al-Qaeda has a strong presence. Recruits with greater access to and knowledge of the U.S. have a better chance of navigating some of the traps set by U.S. and Canadian authorities to catch terrorists coming from abroad.


But some of the other Qaeda operatives killed or captured by the Saudis last week were bigger fish than the Jabarahs, and their demise could hobble some current terror plots. U.S. officials believe some may have even been plotting attacks on the American mainland.


Turki Nasser al-Dandani, the commander of the terror cell that mounted the May 12 suicide truck bombings, was cornered by Saudi police July 3 in the town of Sowair, near the border with Jordan. He blew himself up with a hand grenade rather than being taken alive. U.S. intelligence reports describe him as head of Persian Gulf operations for al-Qaeda, responsible for land and maritime attacks on U.S. and Western interests throughout the region. His knowledge of al-Qaeda plans could extend to schemes in Asia, Europe and the U.S., officials say.


Al-Dandani had fought against U.S. forces inside Afghanistan until the fall of the Taliban. He was close to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the organizer of the 9/11 attacks currently in U.S. custody. After his return to Saudi Arabia, officials say, al-Dandani had worked under senior Qaeda commanders Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri and Walid Ba 'Attash, both Saudis, who had planned the October 2000 attack on the USS Cole in Yemen. Al-Dandani took over the Persian Gulf command after al-Nashiri and Ba 'Attash were captured in separate incidents, say U.S. officials.


But the highest ranking Al Qaeda figure taken down in the Saudi offensive is Ali Abd al-Rahman al-Faqasi al-Ghamdi, aka "Abu Bakr," al-Qaeda field commander for Saudi Arabia and al-Dandani's boss. Al-Ghamdi surrendered June 26 in exchange for his wife's freedom.


U.S. officials are hoping for an intelligence windfall if al-Ghamdi talks. He had trained at Bin Laden's al-Farouq camp and fought with the al-Qaeda leader at Tora Bora. Escaping the U.S. bombardment, he returned to his native Saudi Arabia and reported to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, plotting "second wave" attacks on Americans and their allies until Mohammed's arrest in Pakistan last March. As more and more al-Qaeda field leaders were rounded up, al-Ghamdi rose in the ranks, safely hiding in Saudi Arabia until the May 12 attacks galvanized the kingdom's rulers into cracking down.

U.S. officials believe al- Ghamdi has knowledge of conspiracies now being hatched all over the world, and that he could reveal previously unidentified sleeper cells in the U.S. and Canada. There's even a chance he could know something about the whereabouts of the elusive Bin Laden.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,463428,00.html

[CanadianCowboysFan]

"he could reveal previously unidentified sleeper cells in the U.S. and Canada"

Yeah we are the real problem :rolleyes:

After all, those September 11, 2001 terrorists all learned their trade in Canada even though they had never set foot in this country

[zrinkill]

"he could reveal previously unidentified sleeper cells in the U.S. and Canada"

Yeah we are the real problem :rolleyes:

After all, those September 11, 2001 terrorists all learned their trade in Canada even though they had never set foot in this country

Did I say that?

I said that the open border between the U.S. and Canada is a security risk.

With your low opinion of the U.S., I do not know why that would bother you?

[CanadianCowboysFan]

there is no way they are going to put any more security at the border. the lineups are bad enough already. Way too much trade flows back and forth. every time they want to put new measures in place, politicians on both sides complain that it is too draconian and hurts the economy.

In any event, you know what you were implying, don't deny it. You floated the "terrorists are invading the US from Canada" balloon and now are trying to back away from it.

[zrinkill]

there is no way they are going to put any more security at the border. the lineups are bad enough already. Way too much trade flows back and forth. every time they want to put new measures in place, politicians on both sides complain that it is too draconian and hurts the economy.

In any event, you know what you were implying, don't deny it. You floated the "terrorists are invading the US from Canada" balloon and now are trying to back away from it.

Yes I think its as much or more of a threat to our security than the Mexico border.

Did not deny it ....... But I also did not mention 9/11 ..... that was your pathetic attempt to alter the argument.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Yes I think its as much or more of a threat to our security than the Mexico border.

Did not deny it ....... But I also did not mention 9/11 ..... that was your pathetic attempt to alter the argument.

show me evidence where a single Arab terrorist has ever entered the US from Canada

there was the one guy who tried and he was stopped at the border

in any event, seems to me if you guys let them in through border checkpoints, it is your own fault

[ThreeSportStar80]

I'm proud to be an independent voter.... But I will cast my vote for Obama, this Old politics crap isn't working.

[zrinkill]

show me evidence where a single Arab terrorist has ever entered the US from Canada

there was the one guy who tried and he was stopped at the border

in any event, seems to me if you guys let them in through border checkpoints, it is your own fault

Yes ..... its our fault we do not have a closed border with Canada.

Thats what I have been saying the whole time.

Close the borders and that takes the threat away.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Yes ..... its our fault we do not have a closed border with Canada.

Thats what I have been saying the whole time.

Close the borders and that takes the threat away.

so would a closed border have prevented the Oklahoma City bombing which was obviously a terrorist attack albeit domestic terrorism

as an aside, if you were as knowledgeable as you claim, you would know it is IMPOSSIBLE to close a 6500 Km border which is partly water based (see the Great Lakes, Lake of the Woods, St. Lawrence River.

If you start running around closing borders, then the terrorists win because the US becomes a closed society, your freedoms are limited, you lose tourism dollars, economy is hurt closed societies eventually die out.

[zrinkill]

so would a closed border have prevented the Oklahoma City bombing which was obviously a terrorist attack albeit domestic terrorism

as an aside, if you were as knowledgeable as you claim, you would know it is IMPOSSIBLE to close a 6500 Km border which is partly water based (see the Great Lakes, Lake of the Woods, St. Lawrence River.

If you start running around closing borders, then the terrorists win because the US becomes a closed society, your freedoms are limited, you lose tourism dollars, economy is hurt closed societies eventually die out.

What the heck does something that happened 13 years ago have to do with closing our borders now?

Its not impossible to close the border ..... scientific breakthroughs have many possibilities.

Economical damage would be minimum ..... it would hurt Canada much worse than us.

I ask again ..... with your low opinion of the U.S., why does closing the border between your country and the United States bother you so much?

What does the "U.S. peso" have to offer you?

The US peso is dropping like a stone against all currencies.Maybe you guys will want a currency union now if only to save your peso.

And wouldn't your country be safer from the mean old U.S. if the border was closed?

;)

[Jarv]

What the heck does something that happened 13 years ago have to do with closing our borders now?

Its not impossible to close the border ..... scientific breakthroughs have many possibilities.

Economical damage would be minimum ..... it would hurt Canada much worse than us.

I ask again ..... with your low opinion of the U.S., why does closing the border between your country and the United States bother you so much?

What does the "U.S. peso" have to offer you?



And wouldn't your country be safer from the mean old U.S. if the border was closed?

;)

Lol...Owned. Good job zrin.

[zrinkill]

Lol...Owned. Good job zrin.

No big deal ...... it reminds me of this.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112994

;)