Rumor alert! Re: Javon Walker

[Cajuncowboy]

I have a cousin who is a sheriff in Colorado. He has a friend in the sheriff's department in Denver and told him that Walker was planning on two visits right now...

Dallas and Miami.

This friend apparently has some kind of relationship with either Walker or a close friend of Walkers so this is kinda he said, she said, he said, she said type of thing.

If it's true fine, if not, sorry, just thought I'd post what info came to me through my cousin. Sorry there is a more credible source on this.

[mboy22]

well, the Dallas Morning News is saying that Dallas does have interest in Walker according to several sources.

[hendog]

I love rumors.At least you get to play what if for a little while.

[Catch-22]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Javon Walker pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

[Cajuncowboy]

I should clarify one thing, my cousin said he "thought" the other team was Miami. He was not dead certain.

[Big Dakota]

Wouldn't surprise me if a "visit" is forthcoming. As was said earlier, he's gonna have to come down on his expectations if he's gonna sign here.

[Cajuncowboy]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Javon Walker pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.


Maybe I shouldn't have posted it huh?

[Rampage]

javon walker must be the "wow" player. maybe jerry sends carp to miami just so they stay away from walker:laugh2:

[ajk23az]

I really do hope we get this guy, when healthy, and hes got a whole offseason to do so, he can be a lethal force.

[theogt]

It would make sense that both Dallas and Miami were after him considering our head pro scout just went to Maimi.

[ajk23az]

Maybe I shouldn't have posted it huh?

I'm glad you did.

Some people just have to throw in those tidbits. :cool:

[Cajuncowboy]

It would make sense that both Dallas and Miami were after him considering our head pro scout just went to Maimi.

I didn't think of that, you are right.

[Cajuncowboy]

I'm glad you did.

Some people just have to throw in those tidbits. :cool:

Yeah, though I am one of those people who really hate unsubstantiated rumors and I just posted a rumor that I have third hand info on. So I guess I get it some.

[ABQcowboyJR]

This could be the wow player that Jerry keeps talking about. He would be right too if we actually signed him. It makes sense that he comes to dallas. Two old WR and a chance to put up great numbers. Maybe he signs a two year deal and then looks for a long term one when its time to part with TO.

[gimmesix]

I have a cousin who is a sheriff in Colorado. He has a friend in the sheriff's department in Denver and told him that Walker was planning on two visits right now...

Dallas and Miami.

This friend apparently has some kind of relationship with either Walker or a close friend of Walkers so this is kinda he said, she said, he said, she said type of thing.

If it's true fine, if not, sorry, just thought I'd post what info came to me through my cousin. Sorry there is a more credible source on this.

You know, when you're in jail, you'll say just about anything to get out. :D

[mboy22]

Dallas Cowboys interested in WR Javon Walker


Sources say team is looking to bolster receiving corps

10:21 PM CST on Friday, February 29, 2008


By ALBERT BREER and CALVIN WATKINS / The Dallas Morning News

The Denver Broncos released receiver Javon Walker on Friday, and the Cowboys have stepped up to the plate and expressed an immediate interest, according to numerous sources.
Walker was due the first in a series of bonuses totaling $5.4 million Monday, prompting Denver to cut him loose. The Cowboys are looking to add a receiver to a crew that includes All-Pro Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn and Patrick Crayton.
The team is uneasy about how Glenn will return from the two knee surgeries he underwent in 2007, and Walker wouldn't come without similar concerns. Knee surgery limited Walker to eight games last fall, two years after he tore his ACL and underwent reconstructive surgery in his final year as a Packer.
Broncos coach Mike Shanahan told Denver reporters that Walker might need microfracture surgery, but agent Kennard McGuire says his client is healthy. In Walker's last two healthy seasons, 2004 with the Packers and 2006 with the Broncos, he hit the 1,000-yard milestone in receiving yards.
The Cowboys are not in a rush to sign Walker and will gauge how to pay him before seriously pursuing him. Walker played for Cowboys receivers coach Ray Sherman in Green Bay, and Sherman helped Walker in a turbulent 2007 off-season that started with teammate and Fort Worth native Darrent Williams dying in his arms.
Hamlin doesn't mind tag: At the Mavericks game Friday night, franchised safety Ken Hamlin called getting the tag "part of the business."
"I'm waiting my turn," the Pro Bowler said. "There are some things that are going on, but we're going to see what happens. ... I want a long-term deal. I'm definitely looking forward to it. We'll see what happens."
Owens joined Hamlin at the game, and when asked if there was movement on a contract extension, he said, "It'd be news to me."
Adams contract details: The six-year deal Flozell Adams signed with the Cowboys will carry cap numbers of $3.6 million in 2008 and '09. Adams got $13 million to sign and guaranteed $1 million base salaries the next two years.
Adams will receive $22.5 million in the first three years of the deal, which is just below the $24 million Leonard Davis will get in the first three years of the contract he signed last year.
Glenn says no to surgery: Glenn had two surgeries on his right knee, forcing him to miss 15 regular-season games last year, and doctors told him he needs microfracture surgery in the near future but can continue to play without it. He has elected to forgo surgery and plans to play in '08.
"I'm excited about coming back, and I'm glad the team has the confidence in me to return," Glenn said. "I think we have a great team, and I want to be apart of it. I'm very thankful to be around great ownership."
Briefly: Unrestricted free agent CB Jacques Reeves will visit Houston, New Orleans, Kansas City and St. Louis. ... LB Zach Thomas' four-year contract can be voided after the 2008 season based on playing time. Thomas will get at least $2 million in signing bonus and base salary with the chance to earn another $1 million in incentives. The entire contract is worth nearly $19 million. Thomas' cap number for the 2008 season will be $1.25 million.
Staff writers Todd Archer and Tim MacMahon contributed to this report.

[gimmesix]

Adams contract details: The six-year deal Flozell Adams signed with the Cowboys will carry cap numbers of $3.6 million in 2008 and '09. Adams got $13 million to sign and guaranteed $1 million base salaries the next two years.
Adams will receive $22.5 million in the first three years of the deal, which is just below the $24 million Leonard Davis will get in the first three years of the contract he signed last year.

Not to hijack this thread, but doesn't that mean Adams will receive $7.5 million in base salary in 2010?

[Big Dakota]

Not to hijack this thread, but doesn't that mean Adams will receive $7.5 million in base salary in 2010?


If i dissect this deal correctly, it amounts to a 2 year deal, then we'll have to bail. I'm probably wrong,but that's my guess.

[theogt]

Not to hijack this thread, but doesn't that mean Adams will receive $7.5 million in base salary in 2010?Their numbers aren't adding up. If he got $13 million signing and has $1 million guaranteed base salaries in the 1st 2 years, that doesn't result in $3.6 million cap hits.

[skinsscalper]

If i dissect this deal correctly, it amounts to a 2 year deal, then we'll have to bail. I'm probably wrong,but that's my guess.


I don't know Dakota. Bailing on a 6 year deal after year two with a 13 million dollar signing bonus leaves you with a 8.6 million dollar cap hit on the remainder of the prorated portion of the bonus alone. I'm wondering if the 3rd year has a hefty roster bonus. One thing that IS interesting is that it seems his base salary goes up exponentially in the 3rd year (at least that's what I'm guessing). That is the very year that Jones is predicting will be uncapped if the owners opt out of the current CBA. It could be a gamble that Jerry is willing to take to keep this team in general (and o-line specifically) intact to make a run at the Super Bowl. Jerry has learned that the window of opportunity in the NFL is typically small. Two straight years of play-off qualification have netted ZERO results and Jones realizes this team may not have five years to get to the big dance. He may figure, at this point, the risk is worth the potential reward. If, however, another CBA is reached and the salary cap is kept intact, the Flozell Adams contract could come back to bite us very hard when/if his level of play or health begin a rapid decline.

[skinsscalper]

Their numbers aren't adding up. If he got $13 million signing and has $1 million guaranteed base salaries in the 1st 2 years, that doesn't result in $3.6 million cap hits.


The prorated cap hit of 13 million over 6 years is 2,166,666 per season over the life ofthe deal (which will never be played out). With a base salary of 1 million (in the first two years). By my math that equals 3.16 million a year. There's 500k missing that I'm not figuring out.

[theogt]

The prorated cap hit of 13 million over 6 years is 2,166,666 per season over the life ofthe deal (which will never be played out). With a base salary of 1 million (in the first two years). By my math that equals 3.16 million a year. There's 500k missing that I'm not figuring out.Well, since the base salary is guaranteed, it can be pro-rated as well. So that would be a $2.333 million cap hit. Bottom line is their numbers are incomplete or just wrong.

[gimmesix]

Their numbers aren't adding up. If he got $13 million signing and has $1 million guaranteed base salaries in the 1st 2 years, that doesn't result in $3.6 million cap hits.

It would be a little over $3.1 million, if my calculations are correct. Which might mean his base for the first two years is $1.5 million.

[skinsscalper]

Well, since the base salary is guaranteed, it can be pro-rated as well. So that would be a $2.333 million cap hit. Bottom line is their numbers are incomplete or just wrong.

The base salary can only be counted for THAT year. It can't be prorated.

[skinsscalper]

It would be a little over $3.1 million, if my calculations are correct. Which might mean his base for the first two years is $1.5 million.


Makes sense.

[Big Dakota]

I don't know Dakota. Bailing on a 6 year deal after year two with a 13 million dollar signing bonus leaves you with a 8.6 million dollar cap hit on the remainder of the prorated portion of the bonus alone. I'm wondering if the 3rd year has a hefty roster bonus. One thing that IS interesting is that it seems his base salary goes up exponentially in the 3rd year (at least that's what I'm guessing). That is the very year that Jones is predicting will be uncapped if the owners opt out of the current CBA. It could be a gamble that Jerry is willing to take to keep this team in general (and o-line specifically) intact to make a run at the Super Bowl. Jerry has learned that the window of opportunity in the NFL is typically small. Two straight years of play-off qualification have netted ZERO results and Jones realizes this team may not have five years to get to the big dance. He may figure, at this point, the risk is worth the potential reward. If, however, another CBA is reached and the salary cap is kept intact, the Flozell Adams contract could come back to bite us very hard when/if his level of play or health begin a rapid decline.

The minute i saw the numbers, i thought the same exact thing. Might be dead wrong, but it's interesting.

We have to wait to see just how this thing is structured. I'm just happy Flo is here and i can live with what the umbers bare out.

[theogt]

The base salary can only be counted for THAT year. It can't be prorated."Any salary advance paid on a guaranteed basis" is treated as a signing bonus and must be prorated. If read literally, it'd have to be a "salary advance" to be pro-rated, so I guess it'd depend on whether they "advanced" him the $1 million that is guaranteed or not.

[IronCowboy]

Javon Walker a "wow" player? Moss is a wow player.

[DR.WARE]

if we get a healthy walker, ill just say this the offensive is going to be explosive

[skinsscalper]

"Any salary advance paid on a guaranteed basis" is treated as a signing bonus and must be prorated. If read literally, it'd have to be a "salary advance" to be pro-rated, so I guess it'd depend on whether they "advanced" him the $1 million that is guaranteed or not.

You raise an interesting point. The signing bonus is 13 million, correct? Yet the guaranteed money is 15 million. The only thing I can think of is that there is a clause in the contract that guarantees Adams his base salary in the first two years of the deal in the case of injury or being cut. I can't imagine that it's simply a gentleman's agreement that he'll be here for at least two years. It's guaranteed.

At that rate, 15,000,000 spread over 6 years is a pro rated cap hit of 2.5 million a season. Huh? I'm with you, Theo. Something about these reported numbers are a bit goofy. I'm sure Adam will have this all spelled out for us over the next couple of days.

[Beast_from_East]

well, the Dallas Morning News is saying that Dallas does have interest in Walker according to several sources.

Why are we even looking at this guy, we already have 1 WR with a jacked up knee and now we are looking at another.

How bout we draft a WR in the first round that actually has 2 working knees.

[sago1]

And of course everyone knows that newly drafted WRs immediately produce big results the very first year.

Now, I'm totally on board with using a high draft pick on a really good young WR, but we also need a vet WR who can step up to the plate right away opposite TO this year. If Walker is healthy (our medical staff will carefully be checking his knees out), he's got the talent to be the WR we really need this year. I'm not talking about the Cowboys marrying Walker for several years. What I'm hoping is he willing sign a cheap contract with us for maybe 1-2 years to restart his career. What better place to do that then play with a legit SB contender like the Cowboys, who max out on prime television appearances where his play will get lot of attention and, guess what, we also got one of the game's best young QBs who leads an awesome passing attack.

I'm just very concerned Glenn won't be able to play anywhere near the level we need in 08 & feel we can't set still w/o adding a potentially valuable WR to our offensive firepower. If we could afford a FA WR like Berriam, etc that is a different matter but we can't so Walker has shown when healthy he is a legit quality WR. Again, if his knees check out and he willing play for cheap contract & accepts he'll be the #2 WR opposite TO, then I say go for it and sign him.

[CrazyCowboy]

thanks for the insight.....lots of timethis is good invormation

[LatinMind]

Maybe I shouldn't have posted it huh?

i enjoy reading all news. wether its confirmed or not. especially slow times like these. but sadly on fan forums, theres always people who have to think they're something special and make stupid comments. and try to one up everybody

thanks for posting

[justbob]

Maybe I shouldn't have posted it huh?

We trust you and your friend and his cousin and who ever it was that shot the sheriff --Post away:D

[Scotman]

Maybe I shouldn't have posted it huh?

I disagree. You didn't state it as fact. You were very clear about the reliability (or lack of) the information.

Heck, it's as credible as half the stuff written by the "journalists."

Some of them must end up visiting their proctologist because they are so sore from pulling stories out of their rumps.

[IronCowboy]

You shouldn't have post it. Don't waste my time.

[rathalarge]

Maybe I shouldn't have posted it huh?
I appreciate the post myself...and if it comes true, then "gloat", but NOT too hard!! LOL :laugh2:

[AmishCowboy]

Thanks for the Info!.

[Dawgs0916]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Javon Walker pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

Dang no need to be a ****** when he clearly said it was just a he said she said thing. People these days really irk me.

[zrinkill]

Dang no need to be a ****** when he clearly said it was just a he said she said thing. People these days really irk me.

Yup .... Cajun explained right off the bat that what he heard was just heresy.

It would have been different if he came in here acting like the rumors he heard was a fact (see Nors).

Thanks for giving us the heads up on this rumor Cajun. Most of us appreciate it.

[thewireman]

Ok I don't get it, the Cowboys already have one guy thats older with knee problems in Glenn, why would they get another older player with knee problems in Walker?

[big dog cowboy]

It would have been different if he came in here acting like the rumors he heard was a fact (see Nors).
:muttley:

[dalboy]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Javon Walker pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
Isn't it called Baskin Robbins because there are many more than just 31 Flavors? Just curious...

[Catch-22]

Dang no need to be a ****** when he clearly said it was just a he said she said thing. People these days really irk me.Everyone calm down, it's a joke from the movie Ferris Bueller. No need to get bent out of shape. :rolleyes:

[benny112980]

Javon will be a Cowboy shortly, I'm sure he's already on his way to Valley Ranch. All that's left is a physical and for the Cowboys to restructure some contracts. That said it's also end of the road in Dallas for Terry Glenn. Remember not long ago Keyshawn was sure he was coming back for another season in Dallas and he was cut.

[ajk23az]

Quick Update on Javon Walker;

A third of the league is interested in WR Javon Walker.
At least 10 teams, including all four NFC East clubs, have been in contact with Walker. The 49ers, Bills, Bucs, Panthers, Raiders, and Vikings are also interested, but no visits have been scheduled yet.

PER ESPN

[silver]

Everyone calm down, it's a joke from the movie Ferris Bueller. No need to get bent out of shape. :rolleyes:

that was a great movie. no biggie here. and cajun thanks for the post. i guess walkers tag went a little up with this rumor now. you should ask for a refferal fee or something ;)