NFL Network- Walker to Raiders... 6yrs 55m

[dbair1967]

was watching a few minutes of Favre's bogus super bowl win over Bledslow and the Pats and on the crawl it says according to Adam Shefter that Jevon Walker is "visiting and is close to signing with Raiders"

just fyi

David

[thewivil]

More than likely for seven years and $100 million.

[REDVOLUTION]

Now there is a career move.

I can see his knee getting torn up just from having to jump and bob and weave through all the bodies on the field.

What an idiot

[Rampage]

has adam schefter been right on any of the things he's said this offseason?

[cowboyfan4life_mark]

Must be a $70mil/3year contract. :D

[austintodallas]

Good, we already have a WR with bad knees. If we can't swing Roy Williams from Detroit, let's just go with the draft.

[tomson75]

Now there is a career move.

I can see his knee getting torn up just from having to jump and bob and weave through all the bodies on the field.

What an idiot

:lmao2: Funny stuff.


I'm definitely not saddened by this. When it comes to WR, I'm of the "go big or go home" train of thought...i.e. Fitzgerald or Williams...and since that's not likely, it looks like I'll be waiting a while.

[ajk23az]

has adam schefter been right on any of the things he's said this offseason?

Schefter is pretty good in my opinion. Most of the time he is right.

[Vintage]

Srsly hope Stanback is ready to contribute something next year.

[Nors]

Is Valley Ranch on vacation this week? I don't remember a FA period where not 1 visit was scheduled. I guess it's onto the draft.

[Rampage]

Schefter is pretty good in my opinion. Most of the time he is right.
oh ok. i don't have the nfl network and it's pretty hard to keep up with who is reporting all of these offseason rumors. if they get walker we must go for mcfadden.

[Boysboy]

was watching a few minutes of Favre's bogus super bowl win over Bledslow and the Pats and on the crawl it says according to Adam Shefter that Jevon Walker is "visiting and is close to signing with Raiders"

just fyi

David

What a RELIEF! For a minute, I would have thought Jerry would sell himself out again for damaged goods...again!

[noletime95]

This would be very disapointing news, but I could see the $$$$ being ridiculous if the Raiders are involved......Dallas really needs a WR this off-season and it appears that might not happen.

[Cowboys22]

They must be asking for alot of money and JJ decided to pass.

[austintodallas]

This would be very disapointing news, but I could see the $$$$ being ridiculous if the Raiders are involved......Dallas really needs a WR this off-season and it appears that might not happen.You're right we need a WR, but we don't need a Javon Walker.

We need a young healthy WR from the draft, not a gimpy vet with an attitude problem.

[ctrous25]

Is Valley Ranch on vacation this week? I don't remember a FA period where not 1 visit was scheduled. I guess it's onto the draft.


:bang2: beats me aswell

[dbair1967]

This would be very disapointing news, but I could see the $$$$ being ridiculous if the Raiders are involved......Dallas really needs a WR this off-season and it appears that might not happen.

maybe they'll draft one early or perhaps still swing a trade, if not maybe they just decided to try and get through another yr, hope Glenn can play some and then make a major move next yr for somebody like Roy Williams

and as someone mentioned in another thread, maybe they are higher on some of our young wr's than we think...Miles Austin has great size and speed and seems to be a good route runner, he just needs to work on his concentration...and as poorly as Crayton played vs the NYG, you still cant discount what he did in his first full season of starting either...Stanback is the wildcard

David

[BraveHeartFan]

The WR will be coming in the draft, most likely. That's much better than wasting money on Walker.

[austintodallas]

The WR will be coming in the draft, most likely. That's much better than wasting money on Walker.Thank you.

[dbair1967]

:bang2: beats me aswell

I'd rather them do this than invest the kind of money some of these average joe's/stiffs have been getting...the contracts signed by some of these guys this yr are just ridiculous...gonna be alot of teams wishing they'd have showed more restraint

worst free agent market in yrs, and we're still seeing huge deals...and thats just stupid

David

[cowboyrock]

Srsly hope Stanback is ready to contribute something next year.if we go into next season counting on Stanback, we are in trouble. everytime a player we are looking at goes elswhere, some of you go right to the tired old line good, we dont need him anyway.we are in trouble at CB and reciever folks.

[dbair1967]

if we go into next season counting on Stanback, we are in trouble. everytime a player we are looking at goes elswhere, some of you go right to the tired old line good, we dont need him anyway.we are in trouble at CB and reciever folks.

:rolleyes:

the only way we're in trouble at CB is if Newman and Henry miss alot of games...otherwise we're not in trouble there...we have one franchise CB and a 2nd thats very good

as for WR, we were in such trouble this past season that Romo somehow had one of the best seasons a QB in our great team's history has ever had...oh, and those same guys are back

alot of you over exaggerate stuff big time...could we use better nickle CB play and a dependable 3rd WR? Yeah sure...is it crippling if we dont spend first rd picks on both or either- absolutely not

David

[shooterware94]

If this is true walker is a friggen moro, he clearly doesnt want to win a superbowl. Oakland is gonna over pay him big time.

[ndanger]

if we go into next season counting on Stanback, we are in trouble. everytime a player we are looking at goes elswhere, some of you go right to the tired old line good, we dont need him anyway.we are in trouble at CB and reciever folks.

Fear Mongerer !:)

[Chocolate Lab]

Good, we already have a WR with bad knees. If we can't swing Roy Williams from Detroit, let's just go with the draft.

:hammer:

[Frozen700]

:lmao2: Funny stuff.


I'm definitely not saddened by this. When it comes to WR, I'm of the "go big or go home" train of thought...i.e. Fitzgerald or Williams...and since that's not likely, it looks like I'll be waiting a while.

exactly......

Javon walker? might as well go and get Antonio Bryant :D

na, seriously though, i was not all the excited to hear his name linked up on ours, my friend is a die hard Bronco's fan, and he does not seem heart broken over this loss

[REDVOLUTION]

:lmao2: Funny stuff.


I'm definitely not saddened by this. When it comes to WR, I'm of the "go big or go home" train of thought...i.e. Fitzgerald or Williams...and since that's not likely, it looks like I'll be waiting a while.


I am glad Moss is off the radar.
Hopefully Walker is off the radar.

It forces our "intelligent" move. We could have gotten real carried away with contracts for the above two.

Either go younger and early or IF Fitz was available then go ALL OUT for HIM.

[djtavo]

has adam schefter been right on any of the things he's said this offseason?


his the inside man imo

[cowboyrock]

:rolleyes:

the only way we're in trouble at CB is if Newman and Henry miss alot of games...otherwise we're not in trouble there...we have one franchise CB and a 2nd thats very good

as for WR, we were in such trouble this past season that Romo somehow had one of the best seasons a QB in our great team's history has ever had...oh, and those same guys are back

alot of you over exaggerate stuff big time...could we use better nickle CB play and a dependable 3rd WR? Yeah sure...is it crippling if we dont spend first rd picks on both or either- absolutely not

DavidKeep fooling yourself. Newman is a very good player. Henry is not very good right now. and stays hurt all the time. in this day and age you need more than 2 good corners. and we only have one. Neman is it. you can sit there and fool yourself until the cows come home.the facts dont lie.as for WR. you have two 35 year old WR's in Owens and Glenn. then you have Crayton, who's nothing more than a 3 or 4. we are in trouble at WR. and who knows. Glenn may not be able to make it back. and even if he does, how good will he be.get out of denial about this team.

[Chocolate Lab]

Ticker now says 6 years, 55 million, 16 million guaranteed.

[CaptainAmerica]

$16 million guaranteed?! Wow!

The Raiders are spending some serious jack this off-season.

[REDVOLUTION]

Ticker now says 6 years, 55 million, 16 million guaranteed.


I guess roundabout $9m/year is popular this year

[noletime95]

Ticker now says 6 years, 55 million, 16 million guaranteed.

If those numbers are correct......Godbless you Jerry for not being an idiot...

As for Al Davis...

:lmao2:

[Coakleys Dad]

Good, we already have a WR with bad knees. If we can't swing Roy Williams from Detroit, let's just go with the draft.
right on

[Big Dakota]

Ticker now says 6 years, 55 million, 16 million guaranteed.


Oh good lord you gotta be kidding. No wonder he wasn't even invited to VR. Without the bad knees i could see, but.........:banghead:

[CriscoKidd]

Dang. I don't particularly like Walker, but I was hoping Jerry would have swung a deal for a vet wr pretty early into fagency. I want Crayton back in the slot, and I doubt a rook is going to put him there.

Maybe a trade will happen on draft day but I wont be holding my breath.

[dbair1967]

[QUOTE]Keep fooling yourself. Newman is a very good player. Henry is not very good right now. and stays hurt all the time. in this day and age you need more than 2 good corners.

really? how bout naming all the teams that are loaded up with more than a couple of good CB's? hell alot of teams dont have one good CB

you can sit there and fool yourself until the cows come home.the facts dont lie

Giants, Colts, Steelers...last 3 super bowl winners...none of them had CB play any better than ours...in fact our 2 starting CB's would easily start ahead of any CB's on those 3 teams

.as for WR. you have two 35 year old WR's in Owens and Glenn. then you have Crayton, who's nothing more than a 3 or 4. we are in trouble at WR. and who knows. Glenn may not be able to make it back. and even if he does, how good will he be.get out of denial about this team.

I didnt see anything in Owens game that suggested he was slowing down last yr, did you? In fact it was arguably his best season as a pro...Crayton has started for one yr and did pretty good save one game...alot of you want to discount everything he did during the other 16 games based on one poor effort vs the NYG

like I said, I'm not saying we couldnt use any help there, but niether is critical to the point where we dont have a chance in 2008 if we dont draft a CB and WR in the first rd, which is what so many act like

David

[noletime95]

ESPN is reporting WAlker will get $27 Mil the first three yrs of the deal.....

That's Moss Money. Don't get me wrong, Walker is a good WR if he's healthy, but Moss is both expenentially better and healthy. Wow, Al Davis has just lost it...

[dbair1967]

Ticker now says 6 years, 55 million, 16 million guaranteed.

holy moly...unbelievable

cant blame Walker for taking it...but I definitely dont blame Jones for looking elsewhere either...thats just a terrible deal, jsut like the rest of the deals the Raiders and some other teams have given out

David

[Rampage]

:D YES!!!!! now we know who the WOW player jerry wants to add on offense is.

[cowboyrock]

I am glad Moss is off the radar.
Hopefully Walker is off the radar.

It forces our "intelligent" move. We could have gotten real carried away with contracts for the above two.

Either go younger and early or IF Fitz was available then go ALL OUT for HIM.Tell me you are glad January when we are losing in the first round of the playoffs again.we have done nothing to improve this team. other than add a 35 year old linebacker. Jerry you blew it.

[ThreeSportStar80]

Good, he's got a bum knee anyway...

[dbair1967]

Tell me you are glad January when we are losing in the first round of the playoffs again.we have done nothing to improve this team. other than add a 35 year old linebacker. Jerry you blew it.

dude chill out...the players signed so far have been paid ridiculous sums of money...it wasnt worth investing those kinds of cap figures into avg guys...we've got too many great young players of our own with contracts coming up...the best free agent moves we could have possibly made are the ones we did make...resigning Adams, tendering Barber at the highest level, franchising Hamling and tendering canty for a 1st rd pick...there isnt a team out there that got that kind of talent via free agency

or maybe you thought those moves were "free" or "dont count"

David

[noletime95]

Tell me you are glad January when we are losing in the first round of the playoffs again.we have done nothing to improve this team. other than add a 35 year old linebacker. Jerry you blew it.

Do you seriously think Jerry should have shelled out that kind of Jack for Walker? Seriously?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Al Davis must have some serious health condition that makes it think hes only got a year or tow left. Seriously hes going to have a ton of bad contracts in a couple of years.

[CowboyManDan]

Wow, talk about overpaying for someone with questionable health. I'm a big fan of Walker if he's healthy, but since his health is questionable I'm glad the Cowboys didn't get too mixed up into this.

[cowboyrock]

dude chill out...the players signed so far have been paid ridiculous sums of money...it wasnt worth investing those kinds of cap figures into avg guys...we've got too many great young players of our own with contracts coming up...the best free agent moves we could have possibly made are the ones we did make...resigning Adams, tendering Barber at the highest level, franchising Hamling and tendering canty for a 1st rd pick...there isnt a team out there that got that kind of talent via free agency

or maybe you thought those moves were "free" or "dont count"

DavidHere's the problem with your thinking. we had those players last year and still got beat in the first round again.if we bring the same team back this coming season. we are going to get beat again. the team is not good enough to win a championship. this is not about Walker. this is about Jerry not bringing in any new talent, other than a 35 year old linebacker.the draft will not fix everthing on this team.we needed a vet CB and WR, in free-agency. we have neither.Jerry is not getting it done.

[Primetime0201]

Wide receiver Javon Walker (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5906), released by the Denver Broncos (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=den) on Friday, agreed to a deal with the division-rival Oakland Raiders (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=oak) on Tuesday, a source told ESPN.com's Michael Smith.
http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/mugs/65x90/3548.jpg Walker

The terms of the deal call for Walker to receive a six-year, $55 million contract that includes more than $16 million in guarantees and pays him roughly $27 million over the first three years of the deal.
Soon after being released, at least a third of the league reached out to the six-year veteran.
Injuries limited Walker to eight games last season and he finished with 26 catches for 287 yards and no touchdowns.
He started the season with two 100-yard games before missing two months following a third knee operation.
Beginning his career with the Packers, Walker played two seasons in Denver. He had 69 catches for 1,084 yards and eight TDs the first season. But the offseason was punctuated by tragedy. Involved in a drive-by shooting soon after the season ended, teammate Darrent Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7232) died in Walker's arms.

[dbair1967]

Here's the problem with your thinking. we had those players last year and still got beat in the first round again.if we bring the same team back this coming season. we are going to get beat again. the team is not good enough to win a championship. this is not about Walker. this is about Jerry not bringing in any new talent, other than a 35 year old linebacker.the draft will not fix everthing on this team.we needed a vet CB and WR, in free-agency. we have neither.Jerry is not getting it done.

I guess we'll agree to disagree then...we're obviously going to have another influx of talent in the draft, and currently we're the only team with 2 first rd picks...and a 13-3 team at that...we had the 3rd youngest team in football last yr too...you are being way too myopic

David

[Teague31]

Update [2008-3-4 22:1:13 by Dave Halprin (Grizz)]: Holy crap! Schefter is reporting it's a 6yr/$55 million contract with $16 million guaranteed. Ha! No thank you. It's become plain, the Raiders are certifiably insane as an organization.

[theogt]

Ticker now says 6 years, 55 million, 16 million guaranteed.Jiminy Cricket. That's absurd. I was slightly bummed until I read that.

[noletime95]

Here's the problem with your thinking. we had those players last year and still got beat in the first round again.if we bring the same team back this coming season. we are going to get beat again. the team is not good enough to win a championship. this is not about Walker. this is about Jerry not bringing in any new talent, other than a 35 year old linebacker.the draft will not fix everthing on this team.we needed a vet CB and WR, in free-agency. we have neither.Jerry is not getting it done.

While I agree WR is a big need this offseason, let's not forget the toughest game the Giants played on their way to winning the SB was Dallas. And Dallas outplayed them. It sucks we lost, but think about this....If Crayton just doesn't stop on that pattern or catches the balls that hit his hands, Dallas probably wins that game. Dallas shot themselves in the foot left and right in that game.

Cap room is an issue. The offseason is not over. Jerry signed Flozell. The starting lineup, minus J. Jones (no big loss) is back intact and Dallas will add 2 first round picks to the roster.

Let's also not lose sight of the fact TO was not 100% against the Giants either. And yes, if he's hurt next Jan, Dallas can't replace his production. Losing a player of that caliber would affect any team.

[Chocolate Lab]

Here's the problem with your thinking. we had those players last year and still got beat in the first round again.if we bring the same team back this coming season. we are going to get beat again. the team is not good enough to win a championship. this is not about Walker. this is about Jerry not bringing in any new talent, other than a 35 year old linebacker.the draft will not fix everthing on this team.we needed a vet CB and WR, in free-agency. we have neither.Jerry is not getting it done.

Who did the Giants add in FA last year?

[IronCowboy]

Per ESPN.com and Adam Schefter.

[Big Dakota]

Tell me you are glad January when we are losing in the first round of the playoffs again.we have done nothing to improve this team. other than add a 35 year old linebacker. Jerry you blew it.



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[The30YardSlant]

Here's the problem with your thinking. we had those players last year and still got beat in the first round again.if we bring the same team back this coming season. we are going to get beat again. the team is not good enough to win a championship. this is not about Walker. this is about Jerry not bringing in any new talent, other than a 35 year old linebacker.the draft will not fix everthing on this team.we needed a vet CB and WR, in free-agency. we have neither.Jerry is not getting it done.

Marion Barber
DeMarcus Ware
Tony Romo
Jason Witten
Jay Ratliff
Chris Canty
Anthony Spencer
Marcus Spears

All great young players who are not yet in their primes and will only improve from this year to next

Leonard Davis
Terrell Owens
Ken Hamlin
Terence Newman
Anthony Henry
Andre Gurode
Greg Ellis

All Pro-Bowl caliber players who played at a high level last year and show no signs of getting worse

This team would improve from last year to next if we kept our roster exactly the same. However, we have added a HOF linebacker, dropped our biggest liability in coverage since....well, ever, and we still have two first round picks.

[DBoys]

Man I am shocked by this

[Cowboys22]

There will be additional players cut later on by these teams who are spending like crazy. The teams that have stayed out of this mess will be in good shape to get decent players at a fair price. Just be patient.

[Teague31]

i think jerry has done a great job... 13 pro bowlers on the roster and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is coming back. why would you overspend on bums.... most of these guys getting huge deals have never been to a pro bowl.... would you rather be the raiders?

[Jaxonsdaddd]

Yes I was in favor of signing Walker but not at those numbers NO way!!!

There seems to be a feeling with these posts that one side wants to sign a FA WR and the opposition just wants to draft one.

We should actually do both. We need to draft one to groom a future behind our 35 year old starters. On the other hand, with this team, we can make a real run next year at this thing and we all know rookie WR rarely do much of anything. Having said that, I dont know who would come in and beat out Glenn or Crayton for playing time so I guess its on to the draft with no real immediate help at Wr.

[hendog]

Unreal signings between Kelly and Walker. Al Davis has officially lost it.

[dbair1967]

Unreal signings between Kelly and Walker. Al Davis has officially lost it.

and Gibril Wilson...ok safety, but not 39mils for 6yrs ok...I wouldnt have paid him half of that

David

[Teague31]

how can the raiders possibly have any money left?

[This is Our Year]

Holy God Al Davis is REALLY losing it if we would have given half of that to Walker I would have been p!ssed what is this guy thinking?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3277219

[Dallas]

I am FLOORED he would get that kind of money. I am even more amazed at Art doing it AGAIN. These teams that are overpaying are just unbelievable. Where is all of the old talk of how important the cap is.

Are owners that sure that there is soon to be no cap?

[cowboyfan4life_mark]

Isn't that a little more than Moss got per year average?

[The30YardSlant]

how can the raiders possibly have any money left?

Al Davis sold his iron lung

[kbman]

Wow, just wow! That much on a player with some knee issues.

[Avery]

If we would have paid him that much, I would have been livid.

[ddh33]

Wow! Big numbers!

I liked Javon Walker, but I wouldn't have wanted to spend that.

I did read that Al Davis was over-paying this off-season by design. According to something I saw, he knows the Raiders are a bit of a laughingstock, so he wants everyone to stand up and notice that he wll pay big for good players. I kind of hope it works for them in a way...

[tyke1doe]

Cap room is an issue. The offseason is not over. Jerry signed Flozell. The starting lineup, minus J. Jones (no big loss) is back intact and Dallas will add 2 first round picks to the roster.



Actually, we'll probably add four good players (two No. 1s, a player in the second and player in the third) to the roster - at a minimum.

If we hit on those picks (as we should) that will be four young players to add to the bevy of talent we already have on this team.

There is much to be excited about next year. :)

[links18]

holy moly...unbelievable

cant blame Walker for taking it...but I definitely dont blame Jones for looking elsewhere either...thats just a terrible deal, jsut like the rest of the deals the Raiders and some other teams have given out

David

We are talking about the guy who hired a high school student to coach an NFL team.....

[TheSkaven]

Al Davis must have some serious health condition that makes it think hes only got a year or tow left. Seriously hes going to have a ton of bad contracts in a couple of years.
Man, I was thinking it but didn't want to say it. :)

I didn't want Walker for half that price, I sure as heck don't want him for double it. I hope Jerry can make something happen with Roy Williams, because we aren't going to solve this need in the draft.

[This is Our Year]

ROTOWORLD:

Raiders agreed to terms with Javon Walker on a six-year, $55 million contract, with $16 million guaranteed. He'll make $27 million in the first three years.

Al Davis has lost his mind. Even Walker's old coach Mike Shanahan said the receiver eventually needed microfracture surgery on his chronically sore knee. No one else was bidding for Walker, and many teams publicly denounced any interest. Walker gained 57 yards on seven catches in his last five games last year, and barely seemed able to run. Perhaps he'll recover, but Walker isn't worth Randy Moss money even when healthy. Like Moss' deal with Oakland, this one could end ugly.

[Hostile]

Is Valley Ranch on vacation this week? I don't remember a FA period where not 1 visit was scheduled. I guess it's onto the draft.Great, see you then. We'll enjoy your silence.

[sago1]

Hoped we'd get Walker if he's healthy for cheap 1 year deal to give us another weapon opposite TO. Walker would take place of Glenn who I don't believe will contribute anything but also allow rookie WR I hoped we take in draft to develop w/o lot of pressure in his first year.

Money Walker got is ridiculous & certainly don't blame am for signing with them. Obviously Davis being forced pay big bucks to get any FAs to play for Raiders.

Am I worried about our offense in 08, you better believe it. Start praying that TO doesn't get hurt & that Stanbach plays really well winning #2 WR job against overwhelming odds. Also hope that Glenn makes "comeback player of the year" or that the WR we must draft early comes on really fast a la Randy Moss.

[This is Our Year]

I think Walker is now the 2nd highest paid WR in the NFL

[Big Dakota]

Great, see you then. We'll enjoy your silence.


:spanking::clubbed::owned:

[AdamJT13]

Here's the problem with your thinking. we had those players last year and still got beat in the first round again.if we bring the same team back this coming season. we are going to get beat again.

There's nothing to suggest that's even remotely true. Super Bowl championship teams almost always win because they improved from within, not because they made some big splash in free agency -- and certainly not early in free agency, when guys are getting overpaid left and right.

In fact, of the past seven Super Bowl champions, NONE of them signed a free agent within the first 10 days of free agency who made any real impact whatsoever.

The 2007 Giants (who went 8-8 and lost in the first round in the previous season) didn't sign ANY free agents until March 27, and the biggest free agent they signed all offseason was Kawika Mitchell -- for less than $1 million per season.

The 2006 Colts signed exactly one unrestricted free agent all offseason (Adam Vinatieri), and that happened 11 days into free agency.

The 2005 Steelers, 2004 Patriots and 2003 Patriots didn't sign a single starter during free agency.

The 2002 Buccaneers didn't sign anyone significant until March 22 -- three weeks into free agency (and that was Michael Pittman, who has never even rushed for 1,000 yards).

The 2001 Patriots didn't sign anyone significant until March 16 -- two weeks into free agency (when they got Mike Vrabel).

The last Super Bowl champion who had signed any signficant free agent within the first 10 days of free agency was the 2000 Ravens, who signed Shannon Sharpe on the fifth day of free agency.

[SALADIN]

There's nothing to suggest that's even remotely true. Super Bowl championship teams almost always win because they improved from within, not because they made some big splash in free agency -- and certainly not early in free agency, when guys are getting overpaid left and right.

In fact, of the past seven Super Bowl champions, NONE of them signed a free agent within the first 10 days of free agency who made any real impact whatsoever.

The 2007 Giants (who went 8-8 and lost in the first round in the previous season) didn't sign ANY free agents until March 27, and the biggest free agent they signed all offseason was Kawika Mitchell -- for less than $1 million per season.

The 2006 Colts signed exactly one unrestricted free agent all offseason (Adam Vinatieri), and that happened 11 days into free agency.

The 2005 Steelers, 2004 Patriots and 2003 Patriots didn't sign a single starter during free agency.

The 2002 Buccaneers didn't sign anyone significant until March 22 -- three weeks into free agency (and that was Michael Pittman, who has never even rushed for 1,000 yards).

The 2001 Patriots didn't sign anyone significant until March 16 -- two weeks into free agency (when they got Mike Vrabel).

The last Super Bowl champion who had signed any signficant free agent within the first 10 days of free agency was the 2000 Ravens, who signed Shannon Sharpe on the fifth day of free agency.

"So it is written"

thanks for all of your contribution this off season again AdamJT13!

[TX_Yid]

I wonder how the ridiculous money being thrown about by teams like the Raiders is going to affect our chances of resigning TO to a new contract.

It sure can't be helping

[Bob Sacamano]

screw that

[Big Dakota]

I wonder how the ridiculous money being thrown about by teams like the Raiders is going to affect our chances of resigning TO to a new contract.

It sure can't be helping


Just gonna have to pony up. If i were Jerry, I'd tear up the 2008 deal and give him a new 3 year deal slightly larger than Moss. His age doesn't bother me one bit if we stay in the 3 year range. IMHO he'll be a #1 WR for at least 2-3 more years.

[Hostile]

Holy Moses met the Pharoah, that's a chunk of change on a guy who is coming off an injury.

[big dog cowboy]

has adam schefter been right on any of the things he's said this offseason?
Many more times than not.

[TrogSneed]

just heard it on Sirius NFL Radio
:(

[DallasKnight]

Well, that just means that we definately take a WR with one of our 1st 3 picks then.

[AbeBeta]

Huge money - 9 mill a year-ish -- 27 mill over the first 3 with 16 mill in bonuses -- stupid deal. He's not worth that.

[DallasKnight]

All this signing means is we now have to take a WR with one of the 1st 3 picks. I can't/won't count on Glenn being healthy all year. And I'm not sold on Austin/Hurd being able to tote the load should he go down. Come on Hardy or Sweed.

[Big Dakota]

Holy Moses met the Pharoah, that's a chunk of change on a guy who is coming off an injury.

He's missed 23 out of the last 48 games. Glenn has missed 16 in the same time. I'll take a chance on TG thank you very much.

[Future]

Huge money - 9 mill a year-ish -- 27 mill over the first 3 with 16 mill in bonuses -- stupid deal. He's not worth that.

WOW :laugh2:

[SALADIN]

Holy Moses met the Pharoah, that's a chunk of change on a guy who is coming off an injury.

I'm just as concerned about WR as you are. Walker has been checked out again and again. He would have been good here but its not like he (or anyone out there) would have mad a difference.
This Cowboys team is just one of those teams.

And let us not forger that you thought B. Edwards was a better WR than M. Williams.

There's that, but I just wanted to point out what Adam contributes :cool:

hope yu'v been well budy :)

Maybe later we can talk about shut down CB from your area....but that's another thread.

[Hostile]

I'm just as concerned about WR as you are. Walker has been checked out again and again. He would have been good here but its not like he (or anyone out there) would have mad a difference.
This Cowboys team is just one of those teams.

And let us not forger that you thought B. Edwards was a better WR than M. Williams.

There's that, but I just wanted to point out what Adam contributes :cool:

hope yu'v been well budy :)

Maybe later we can talk about shut down CB from your area....but that's another thread.What is up brah? Long time no see.

Mike Williams really let me down. He has no one to blame but himself for becoming lazy.

The WR I want resides currently in Detroit. In the Draft I like 4 guys a lot. Any one of them would thrill me.

[Big Country]

:huh:

:lmao2:

U got to be kidding me... he freakin' went to Oak? Al Davis paid him what???

Al Davis needs to flat out retire... Sounds like a JJ move back in the Campo era.

[skinsscalper]

:huh:

:lmao2:

U got to be kidding me... he freakin' went to Oak? Al Davis paid him what???

Al Davis needs to flat out retire... Sounds like a JJ move back in the Campo era.


JJ never had that kind of cap space in the Campo era. One of many reasons the Campo era SUCKED.

[SALADIN]

What is up brah? Long time no see.

Mike Williams really let me down. He has no one to blame but himself for becoming lazy.

The WR I want resides currently in Detroit. In the Draft I like 4 guys a lot. Any one of them would thrill me.

Hos, Walker is gone, but does anyone REALLY know what's going on with the other R. Williams? (the better Football Player)

[ethiostar]

There's nothing to suggest that's even remotely true. Super Bowl championship teams almost always win because they improved from within, not because they made some big splash in free agency -- and certainly not early in free agency, when guys are getting overpaid left and right.

In fact, of the past seven Super Bowl champions, NONE of them signed a free agent within the first 10 days of free agency who made any real impact whatsoever.

The 2007 Giants (who went 8-8 and lost in the first round in the previous season) didn't sign ANY free agents until March 27, and the biggest free agent they signed all offseason was Kawika Mitchell -- for less than $1 million per season.

The 2006 Colts signed exactly one unrestricted free agent all offseason (Adam Vinatieri), and that happened 11 days into free agency.

The 2005 Steelers, 2004 Patriots and 2003 Patriots didn't sign a single starter during free agency.

The 2002 Buccaneers didn't sign anyone significant until March 22 -- three weeks into free agency (and that was Michael Pittman, who has never even rushed for 1,000 yards).

The 2001 Patriots didn't sign anyone significant until March 16 -- two weeks into free agency (when they got Mike Vrabel).

The last Super Bowl champion who had signed any signficant free agent within the first 10 days of free agency was the 2000 Ravens, who signed Shannon Sharpe on the fifth day of free agency.

:bow:

[Big Country]

JJ never had that kind of cap space in the Campo era. One of many reasons the Campo era SUCKED.

That's true about the cap space back in the day, but I was basically referring to the times JJ was overspending for big name retreads that aren't worth it.

I can't believe we have Campo back anyway. I hope he kicks *** this year and turns around the secondary play. If that happens, Dallas should go farther in 08.:cool:

[TheCount]

Hos, Walker is gone, but does anyone REALLY know what's going on with the other R. Williams? (the better Football Player)

The Lions say they won't trade him, and have said so several times now. So I doubt he moves.

I think we should take a look at the Bryant Johnson's and D.J. Hackets that are left.

I still can't believe the Raiders paid Walker, Randy Moss money.

T.O. is going to want 11 mil a year when it comes his time, holy crap.

[Hostile]

Hos, Walker is gone, but does anyone REALLY know what's going on with the other R. Williams? (the better Football Player)Not sure, but Detroit will either have to trade him, or lose him via Free Agency because they will not be able to pay him. They ahve too much tied up in WR with the contracts they've given Calvin Johnson, Mike Furrey and Sean McDonald.

I know for a fact he wants to come to Dallas. I think he's a perfect fit here.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The Lions say they won't trade him, and have said so several times now. So I doubt he moves.

I think we should take a look at the Bryant Johnson's and D.J. Hackets that are left.

I still can't believe the Raiders paid Walker, Randy Moss money.

T.O. is going to want 11 mil a year when it comes his time, holy crap.

Screw it then let him walk and sign RW next year.

[SALADIN]

Not sure, but Detroit will either have to trade him, or lose him via Free Agency because they will not be able to pay him. They ahve too much tied up in WR with the contracts they've given Calvin Johnson, Mike Furrey and Sean McDonald.

I know for a fact he wants to come to Dallas. I think he's a perfect fit here.

The bottom line is you're point Hos.

Det can say whatever they want to right now but in 2009 Roy Williams wants to come back to Texas. Now, does Roy Williams want to be in the best WR, the most marketable player this city in the South has had or does he want to try and chase a career as being a pretty good WR for the Texans?

J Jones may have to wait but if what R Williams says is true then sooner or later we'll see if he really wants to be in Texas.

btw Cason in the 2nd sounds nice to me :)

[FCBarca]

Still can't believe this went down...Incomprehensible

[silverbear]

Here's the problem with your thinking. we had those players last year and still got beat in the first round again.if we bring the same team back this coming season. we are going to get beat again. the team is not good enough to win a championship.

Of course it is... it may well be that the only thing this team is lacking right now is playoff toughness, and losing a coupla disappointing games the last two seasons in the playoffs may help give the Boys that toughness...



this is not about Walker. this is about Jerry not bringing in any new talent,

Actually, this seems to be about your being clueless... the Cowboys had not one, not two, but three Pro Bowl players who were free agents this offseason, and they have made sure that they didn't lose any of them... it doesn't make sense to go throwing money at other teams' free agents if it means you let your own good players go...

The Cowboys' top priority this offseason was to keep as much of their nucleus intact as possible... they now have 15 players on their roster who have played in the Pro Bowl in the past two seasons, something no other team can claim... indeed, I wonder if any team has ever been able to claim so many incumbent Pro Bowlers in an offseason...

You seem to be one of them there Chicken Littles, but your cries of despair don't make any sense, because the sky is NOT falling...

[silverbear]

Jiminy Cricket. That's absurd. I was slightly bummed until I read that.

My reaction exactly-- I was quite disappointed to learn Walker was going elsewhere, until I saw what the Faiders paid him...

Amazing, just amazing... so, anybody got Bryant Johnson's agent's number??

[silverbear]

i think jerry has done a great job... 13 pro bowlers on the roster and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is coming back.

15, actually... Mat McBriar and Zach Thomas were Pro Bowlers in 2006...

[tskyler]

Sorry, I may be an idiot but I don't see why we would even think about drafting a receiver or go for a free agent at the position.

1. We have one superstar, TO.
2. We possibly have another, who is currently banged up but is a hard work TG.
3. We have a superstar Tight End JW.
4. We have a decent #2 or 3 - Crayton
5. We have a good skill guy - Hurd
6. We have a decent very tall guy - Miles
7. We have a possible burner - Stanbach
8. We will have a ton on UDFA's and others who will be released after FA in camp competing.

I could have almost seen a Moss signing. TO + Moss is kinda insane to ponder if the personalities would have worked. But thats not on the table. There is no one with the possible exception of Roy Williams that is on the table.

What draft prospect is less risk/more upside than what we have by such a wide margin that you cripple other areas that need work... like CB, Def. Line, Safety, (Maybe RB - Although that is a position that seems to fill up easily IMHO)

Javon Walker was not a bargain for us at 4 million or even 2 million. 9 million is insane. Paying a Day 1 draft pick is insane.

If TO goes down, there is nobody that we are going to get that can replace them. If anyone else goes down, we have options. Those current options have played with Romo for 2 years. They are beginning to know the routes. A rookie or FA wont. Unless they are elite... just not worth it...

But... But... But... TO and TG are old and wearing out.. Well a rookie is not going to be able to replace them this year any better than what we have. In later years there will always be some elite receiver on the block. And there probably won't be a salary cap and Jerry will have his 80,000 seat stadium money.

Please quit thinking about a receiver. We are full up at the hotel. Lets spend Jerry's money on smart things.

Sorry for the rant.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sorry, I may be an idiot but I don't see why we would even think about drafting a receiver or go for a free agent at the position.

1. We have one superstar, TO.
2. We possibly have another, who is currently banged up but is a hard work TG.
3. We have a superstar Tight End JW.
4. We have a decent #2 or 3 - Crayton
5. We have a good skill guy - Hurd
6. We have a decent very tall guy - Miles
7. We have a possible burner - Stanbach
8. We will have a ton on UDFA's and others who will be released after FA in camp competing.

I could have almost seen a Moss signing. TO + Moss is kinda insane to ponder if the personalities would have worked. But thats not on the table. There is no one with the possible exception of Roy Williams that is on the table.

What draft prospect is less risk/more upside than what we have by such a wide margin that you cripple other areas that need work... like CB, Def. Line, Safety, (Maybe RB - Although that is a position that seems to fill up easily IMHO)

Javon Walker was not a bargain for us at 4 million or even 2 million. 9 million is insane. Paying a Day 1 draft pick is insane.

If TO goes down, there is nobody that we are going to get that can replace them. If anyone else goes down, we have options. Those current options have played with Romo for 2 years. They are beginning to know the routes. A rookie or FA wont. Unless they are elite... just not worth it...

But... But... But... TO and TG are old and wearing out.. Well a rookie is not going to be able to replace them this year any better than what we have. In later years there will always be some elite receiver on the block. And there probably won't be a salary cap and Jerry will have his 80,000 seat stadium money.

Please quit thinking about a receiver. We are full up at the hotel. Lets spend Jerry's money on smart things.

Sorry for the rant.

Hurd is a spare. Hes good on ST but hes essentially a small possession reciever. I just don't see him being much better than he already is which makes him infinitely replaceable. TG is probably toast. He is bone on bone at this point.

That gives us

TO
Crayton
Stanback
Miles

as locks.

I want a top rookie filling that last roster spot.

[MWILL]

I hope the Raiders sign J. Jones too! :lmao2:

[Ren]

kinda glad we didn't get this guy i'd be surprised if his knee holds up and he returns to his old form which is what it seems OAK is betting the farm on with this deal

[CrazyCowboy]

cha-ching....congrats to Walker

[alancdc]

Some Raiders fan seriously needs to pull a Saving Silverman, for you movie lovers, and kidnap Al Davis and, unlike the movie, NEVER let him go. He is a madman. This very well could be the most absurd Pro Football contract ever.

[Sam I Am]

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[Sam I Am]

Some Raiders fan seriously needs to pull a Saving Silverman, for you movie lovers, and kidnap Al Davis and, unlike the movie, NEVER let him go. He is a madman. This very well could be the most absurd Pro Football contract ever.

Keeping Fitz in Arizona without restructuring his contract is far worse.

[BraveHeartFan]

Do you seriously think Jerry should have shelled out that kind of Jack for Walker? Seriously?


I'm sure he does. Stupidity is a dangerous thing.

[BraveHeartFan]

Who did the Giants add in FA last year?

Exactly. But, seriously, don't waste your time on those incapable of thinking on any level that doesn't involve turning the salary cap off, like in Madden.

[BraveHeartFan]

There's nothing to suggest that's even remotely true. Super Bowl championship teams almost always win because they improved from within, not because they made some big splash in free agency -- and certainly not early in free agency, when guys are getting overpaid left and right.

In fact, of the past seven Super Bowl champions, NONE of them signed a free agent within the first 10 days of free agency who made any real impact whatsoever.

The 2007 Giants (who went 8-8 and lost in the first round in the previous season) didn't sign ANY free agents until March 27, and the biggest free agent they signed all offseason was Kawika Mitchell -- for less than $1 million per season.

The 2006 Colts signed exactly one unrestricted free agent all offseason (Adam Vinatieri), and that happened 11 days into free agency.

The 2005 Steelers, 2004 Patriots and 2003 Patriots didn't sign a single starter during free agency.

The 2002 Buccaneers didn't sign anyone significant until March 22 -- three weeks into free agency (and that was Michael Pittman, who has never even rushed for 1,000 yards).

The 2001 Patriots didn't sign anyone significant until March 16 -- two weeks into free agency (when they got Mike Vrabel).

The last Super Bowl champion who had signed any signficant free agent within the first 10 days of free agency was the 2000 Ravens, who signed Shannon Sharpe on the fifth day of free agency.

OUCH. Smacking them down with a heavy dose of reality and common sense. You sir should be commended. :)

[Redball Express]

And at those numbers, we are well off.

Spend that money, Al.

It will make it easier on us when Draft Day comes and you are out of cap money and have to trade out of your #4 pick..

to us..

:devil:

RedBaLL ExPreSS