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BrAinPaiNt
03-05-2008, 05:34 AM
I curse Texas and Ohio for letting Hillary win.

NOOOOO!!!!!!

BURN!!!!

ok...just had to get that off my chest.

sacase
03-05-2008, 05:55 AM
not a big deal she only gained 11 delagates. She had to blow Obama away in TX and OH to have a real shot. She barely won in Texas. The only thing she is going to do is hurt the party now.

jman
03-05-2008, 06:05 AM
not a big deal she only gained 11 delagates. She had to blow Obama away in TX and OH to have a real shot. She barely won in Texas. The only thing she is going to do is hurt the party now.

That's what I was thinking, if what the CNN guys were saying was right...Hillary has got to go to a negative campaign to win out over Obama and have a chance.

And loved this headline from DMN.com in Dallas…”Some caucuses turn chaotic, and Clinton mulls legal action“. Let the infighting begin.

So, John McCain, huh?

ZeroClub
03-05-2008, 07:07 AM
Yup, it's going to get even more negative. Nasty too.

This is bad news for Democrats.

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 07:47 AM
I curse Texas and Ohio for letting Hillary win.

NOOOOO!!!!!!

BURN!!!!

ok...just had to get that off my chest.

Better get ready to curse WV too.

They were reading the copies of Obama's campaign predictions that were sent by mistake to the press and it was uncanny how right they were in which states he would win and lose and even by what percentage.

It called all of last nights races correct and mentioned all the ones in the future...saying that WV goes to Hillary. :D

Cajuncowboy
03-05-2008, 08:11 AM
The only thing she is going to do is hurt the party now.

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Doomsday101
03-05-2008, 08:15 AM
I curse Texas and Ohio for letting Hillary win.

NOOOOO!!!!!!

BURN!!!!

ok...just had to get that off my chest.

I have to say I love it, I want those 2 going after each other for a while and now it looks as if the race will go all the way to the convention.

sacase
03-05-2008, 08:36 AM
I have to say I love it, I want those 2 going after each other for a while and now it looks as if the race will go all the way to the convention.

This benifits the Republicans in a big way. Just goes to show you that the clintons think nothing is more important than them.

I am so loving this! McCain can sit back and build up his base and prepare to destoy what is left of the Democratic winner. :lmao:

BrAinPaiNt
03-05-2008, 08:36 AM
You people are killing me.

I want NO CHANCE...not one iota of a chance, not one tiny percentage of a chance, that she hangs around and some how pulls this out.

NO NO NO NO.

You people are putting too much faith into a candidate that most of you don't even like in McCain. He IS beatable and make no mistake about that.

No Way do I want her to have ANY chance of becoming the next president and as long as she hangs around her chances are there.

It would be better for all if she loses the primaries as early as possible.

heavyg
03-05-2008, 08:40 AM
You people are killing me.

I want NO CHANCE...not one iota of a chance, not one tiny percentage of a chance, that she hangs around and some how pulls this out.

NO NO NO NO.

You people are putting too much faith into a candidate that most of you don't even like in McCain. He IS beatable and make no mistake about that.

No Way do I want her to have ANY chance of becoming the next president and as long as she hangs around her chances are there.

It would be better for all if she loses the primaries as early as possible.

Its not secrete that I am a republican. And I know you say your neither rep or dem (i think). But can you say you would vote for Obama over Clinton/McCain. Obabma scares me just as much as Clinton. He is an unknown. Do we really know anything about him? We don't know what his policies will be. Where he stands on issues. He keeps preaching change and hope but he has yet to tell us how he plans to get that done. At least with Hillary you know where the snake is

BrAinPaiNt
03-05-2008, 08:42 AM
Its not secrete that I am a republican. And I know you say your neither rep or dem (i think). But can you say you would vote for Obama over Clinton/McCain. Obabma scares me just as much as Clinton. He is an unknown. Do we really know anything about him? We don't know what his policies will be. Where he stands on issues. He keeps preaching change and hope but he has yet to tell us how he plans to get that done. At least with Hillary you know where the snake is

Never said I would or would not vote for Obama. I have said in the past I would vote for McCain. I do know I would Never vote for hillary.

However you are missing the point from my perspective. I don't want ANY chance of her becoming president and it is not just her stances on issues...I think she is scum. I think on scum level she is even with my views on W if that should tell you anything.:D

Doomsday101
03-05-2008, 08:44 AM
You people are killing me.

I want NO CHANCE...not one iota of a chance, not one tiny percentage of a chance, that she hangs around and some how pulls this out.

NO NO NO NO.

You people are putting too much faith into a candidate that most of you don't even like in McCain. He IS beatable and make no mistake about that.

No Way do I want her to have ANY chance of becoming the next president and as long as she hangs around her chances are there.

It would be better for all if she loses the primaries as early as possible.

Well then vote for McCain. I think both will be tough opponents but polls do show in a matchup of McCain vs Hillary the numbers look better for McCain. Her talk of experience pales in comparison to that of McCain. As one former campaigner said I would take Hillary's red phone commercial about who you want answering the phone at 3 in the morning and show John McCain picking it up. :laugh2: Right now I would much rather see Obama and Hillary spending money and going after each other, the more that happens the more divide will take place with the voters.

Doomsday101
03-05-2008, 08:48 AM
Its not secrete that I am a republican. And I know you say your neither rep or dem (i think). But can you say you would vote for Obama over Clinton/McCain. Obabma scares me just as much as Clinton. He is an unknown. Do we really know anything about him? We don't know what his policies will be. Where he stands on issues. He keeps preaching change and hope but he has yet to tell us how he plans to get that done. At least with Hillary you know where the snake is

I know one thing is you look at his voting record and that of Ted Kennedy there is no difference. Ted is a hardcore left wing Liberal and so is Obama. I want no part of him in office. Right now Obama is riding the wave of star power and that of a celebrity that has to change and I think it is starting to as voters started showing their doubts last night.

Mavs Man
03-05-2008, 08:51 AM
One thing that could hurt McCain - the spotlight is focused soley on Obama and Clinton for the next few months, while McCain will be fighting for front page/news coverage of his now presidential campaign.

AbeBeta
03-05-2008, 08:57 AM
This will get interesting - Hill is going to have to get negative -- ultimately it will be the superdels who decide this -- a system that i feel is idiotic. Thing is, you go negative, and you risk the loss of the superdels who don't want to see their first legit candidates in 8 years trash each other.

Doomsday101
03-05-2008, 08:57 AM
One thing that could hurt McCain - the spotlight is focused soley on Obama and Clinton for the next few months, while McCain will be fighting for front page/news coverage of his now presidential campaign.

It could then again having Hillary and Obama attacking each other could open some wounds that McCain can go after in the General. I think McCain has to do the best he can to keep himself in the spotlight and try to take advantage of what could turn into an ugly battle on the Dems side.

heavyg
03-05-2008, 09:12 AM
It could then again having Hillary and Obama attacking each other could open some wounds that McCain can go after in the General. I think McCain has to do the best he can to keep himself in the spotlight and try to take advantage of what could turn into an ugly battle on the Dems side.

McCain is going to have to pick WOW running mate IMO. I know usually voters don't base their decision on the running mate but I think it will be important this time around.

Doomsday101
03-05-2008, 09:17 AM
McCain is going to have to pick WOW running mate IMO. I know usually voters don't base their decision on the running mate but I think it will be important this time around.

He does not have to pick one until the Rep. Convention. So he has time now to sit back and think who would help the ticket.

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 09:21 AM
In the end when all is said and done whoever is the nominee will have the support of the others voters.

The Democrats will be united in not wanting to extend Bush's term by voting for John W. McCain.

I mean if you support Hillary or Obama and believe in what they do are you just going to go well just because my person didn't win I'm going to go and vote for McCain who doesn't support just about anything that I want?

It doesn't make sense. And if you do well you're stupid.

In the end don't you want the person in there that holds your views and beliefs? It's not like Hillary and Obama are polar opposites or anything.

They are fighting for the nomination as they should.

This celebrating over them fighting for the nomination will in the end be much to do about nothing.

It's not like McCain is some shoo in or anything...he's very capable of being beat and everyone knows it.

Doomsday101
03-05-2008, 09:24 AM
In the end when all is said and done whoever is the nominee will have the support of the others voters.

The Democrats will be united in not wanting to extend Bush's term by voting for John W. McCain.

I mean if you support Hillary or Obama and believe in what they do are you just going to go well just because my person didn't win I'm going to go and vote for McCain who doesn't support just about anything that I want?

It doesn't make sense. And if you do well you're stupid.

In the end don't you want the person in there that holds your views and beliefs? It's not like Hillary and Obama are polar opposites or anything.

They are fighting for the nomination as they should.

This celebrating over them fighting for the nomination will in the end be much to do about nothing.

Not according to polls. Many Obama supporter would not support Hillary at least according to many polls that I have seen.

Sasquatch
03-05-2008, 09:31 AM
Not according to polls. Many Obama supporter would not support Hillary at least according to many polls that I have seen.

There's truth to that. Some people feel that the Bush presidency has been a boon to the left in terms of shifting national sentiment. Another 8 years of disastrous republican cut-taxes and spend policies will usher in a golden age of progressivism. :D

Danny White
03-05-2008, 09:32 AM
Never said I would or would not vote for Obama. I have said in the past I would vote for McCain. I do know I would Never vote for hillary.

However you are missing the point from my perspective. I don't want ANY chance of her becoming president and it is not just her stances on issues...I think she is scum. I think on scum level she is even with my views on W if that should tell you anything.:D

If it's any consolation, I still think Obama gets the nomination.

Keep your chin up! :)

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 09:32 AM
Not according to polls. Many Obama supporter would not support Hillary at least according to many polls that I have seen.

Well polls have been know to be wrong some times. :p:

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 09:35 AM
There's truth to that. Some people feel that the Bush presidency has been a boon to the left in terms of shifting national sentiment. Another 8 years of disastrous republican cut-taxes and spend policies will usher in a golden age of progressivism. :D

Beautiful thinking...W. McCain all the way! :D

Doomsday101
03-05-2008, 09:36 AM
Well polls have been know to be wrong some times. :p:

Yes they have been wrong before. I don't think these opinion poll are wrong in the sense that many who were question do not like Hillary. She has burned her fair share of bridges over the years

yesfan
03-05-2008, 09:38 AM
Its not secrete that I am a republican. And I know you say your neither rep or dem (i think). But can you say you would vote for Obama over Clinton/McCain. Obabma scares me just as much as Clinton. He is an unknown. Do we really know anything about him? We don't know what his policies will be. Where he stands on issues. He keeps preaching change and hope but he has yet to tell us how he plans to get that done. At least with Hillary you know where the snake is

I'm a Repulican who would vote for Obama.He needs to get her experience out there,pound the message she promised 2million jobs to NY and wound up with
a loss of 30 thousand instead.Also,she had 2 terms with Bill and couldn't deliver
on healthcare.That experience we don't need.And who could be more scarier
than these Nazis, Der Chaney and Bush.McCain is the one one thta's going to
find himself alone when the dust clears.I guess Obama gives some sort of hope
the way most of us saw in Robert Kennedy,he has really sparked this election
like nobody since.

heavyg
03-05-2008, 09:40 AM
There's truth to that. Some people feel that the Bush presidency has been a boon to the left in terms of shifting national sentiment. Another 8 years of disastrous republican cut-taxes and spend policies will usher in a golden age of progressivism. :D

Funny thing is it only took 8 yrs of the Clinton tax tax tax to shift the national sentiment. I guess 16 yrs of tax cuts aint too bad :D

zrinkill
03-05-2008, 09:46 AM
Funny thing is it only took 8 yrs of the Clinton tax tax tax to shift the national sentiment. I guess 16 yrs of tax cuts aint too bad :D

:bow:

BrAinPaiNt
03-05-2008, 10:09 AM
Funny thing is it only took 8 yrs of the Clinton tax tax tax to shift the national sentiment. I guess 16 yrs of tax cuts aint too bad :D

When you are spending more money than a drunken sailor at a cat house, or even a hardcore liberal, and you are also at the same time yelling out tax cuts tax cuts...you are being the worst of both worlds.

In other words it is flat out stupid to be doing tax cuts when you are spending like a fiscally irresponsible drunk.

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 10:20 AM
When you are spending more money than a drunken sailor at a cat house, or even a hardcore liberal, and you are also at the same time yelling out tax cuts tax cuts...you are being the worst of both worlds.

In other words it is flat out stupid to be doing tax cuts when you are spending like a fiscally irresponsible drunk.

http://www.farfromneutral.com/exodus/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/o_rly.jpg

heavyg
03-05-2008, 10:22 AM
When you are spending more money than a drunken sailor at a cat house, or even a hardcore liberal, and you are also at the same time yelling out tax cuts tax cuts...you are being the worst of both worlds.

In other words it is flat out stupid to be doing tax cuts when you are spending like a fiscally irresponsible drunk.

True but the problem right now is we are at War. For it or against it when ever we are in a War there will be a deficite. And it just goes against Republican nature to raise taxes (Cept for Bush Sr.)

Sasquatch
03-05-2008, 10:25 AM
True but the problem right now is we are at War. For it or against it when ever we are in a War there will be a deficite. And it just goes against Republican nature to raise taxes (Cept for Bush Sr.)

A war of choice.

Just put it on the credit card of the American people.

heavyg
03-05-2008, 10:27 AM
A war of choice.

Just put it on the credit card of the American people.

a war of choice? when does anyone chose to go to war? war is usually forced on you one way or another. I know your going to say Bush forced the war so go right ahead

Sasquatch
03-05-2008, 10:50 AM
when does anyone chose to go to war?

March 20, 2003.

heavyg
03-05-2008, 10:51 AM
:rolleyes:

March 20, 2003.

Sasquatch
03-05-2008, 10:58 AM
:rolleyes:

Roll your eyes all you want. It doesn't change the REALITY that we initiated (i.e. choose the time and place) the fighting. We were not forced to defend ourselves by an attack. That's what preemptive strike means. Even if you support the war on various other flimsy grounds, that essential fact can never be denied.

You know, when you have to distort reality to defend a policy, the policy probably isn't all that good.

heavyg
03-05-2008, 11:02 AM
Roll your eyes all you want. It doesn't change the REALITY that we initiated (i.e. choose the time and place) the fighting. We were not forced to defend ourselves by an attack. That's what preemptive strike means. Even if you support the war on various other flimsy grounds, that essential fact can never be denied.

You know, when you have to distort reality to defend a policy, the policy probably isn't all that good.

Never denied we initiated the war in Iraq. But I believe it was the right thing to do. My problem with it is I don't think we went into it with a proper exit strategy. Another thing I don't understand are those who oppose the war ( which you have the right to do) think that a complete pull out is the right thing to do right now. It would cause more harm than good.

Sasquatch
03-05-2008, 11:20 AM
Never denied we initiated the war in Iraq. But I believe it was the right thing to do. My problem with it is I don't think we went into it with a proper exit strategy. Another thing I don't understand are those who oppose the war ( which you have the right to do) think that a complete pull out is the right thing to do right now. It would cause more harm than good.

The war has been argued ad infinitum. The only point I'm making here is that it was a war of choice. We decided when to go to war and under what circumstances. It was a decision that was not thrust upon us by an Iraqi attack a la Pearl Harbor and the subsequent Nazi declaration of War against the US. The administration DECIDED to launch on war on credit.

heavyg
03-05-2008, 11:25 AM
The war has been argued ad infinitum. The only point I'm making here is that it was a war of choice. We decided when to go to war and under what circumstances. It was a decision that was not thrust upon us by an Iraqi attack a la Pearl Harbor and the subsequent Nazi declaration of War against the US. The administration DECIDED to launch on war on credit.

And my point is War costs money. No matter if it is WWI or WWII. We didnt want those wars either. As I said regardless of if you support the Iraq war or not. Now is not the time for a complete pull out of our troops

Doomsday101
03-05-2008, 11:29 AM
The war has been argued ad infinitum. The only point I'm making here is that it was a war of choice. We decided when to go to war and under what circumstances. It was a decision that was not thrust upon us by an Iraqi attack a la Pearl Harbor and the subsequent Nazi declaration of War against the US. The administration DECIDED to launch on war on credit.

We also gave Iraq 13 years to adhere to the resolutions they signed in the cease fire agreement. They again were warned and still did not adhere to it and finally the days of actually doing what we said came about. After a while all the tough talk from Clinton admistration was just that tough talk. Myself I felt this was long overdue and had it not been done it would have only been a matter of time.

heavyg
03-05-2008, 11:35 AM
We also gave Iraq 13 years to adhere to the resolutions they signed in the cease fire agreement. They again were warned and still did not adhere to it and finally the days of actually doing what we said came about. After a while all the tough talk from Clinton admistration was just that tough talk. Myself I felt this was long overdue and had it not been done it would have only been a matter of time.

I know hind sight is 20/20 but I have to wonder how things would have went down if Al Gore were president during 9/11. I doubt things would be much different than they are now. He would have gotten the same Intel reports Bush did. I still whole heartedly believe the WMD were there and we just waited to long and let them move them out.

Doomsday101
03-05-2008, 11:43 AM
I know hind sight is 20/20 but I have to wonder how things would have went down if Al Gore were president during 9/11. I doubt things would be much different than they are now. He would have gotten the same Intel reports Bush did. I still whole heartedly believe the WMD were there and we just waited to long and let them move them out.

I have said before I do think the weapons were moved in the 3 months we spent in the UN before the war it has not been proven either way and we may never know for sure. Regardless I do think Saddam being left in power would have reconstituted the weapons program I don't think the man changed in any way shape or form. Granted Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 however I felt after 9/11 that the US should stand by what we say and mean what we say and as far as I was concerned the days of the cat and mouse game with Saddam was time to come to an end.

heavyg
03-05-2008, 11:47 AM
I have said before I do think the weapons were moved in the 3 months we spent in the UN before the war it has not been proven either way and we may never know for sure. Regardless I do think Saddam being left in power would have reconstituted the weapons program I don't think the man changed in any way shape or form. Granted Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 however I felt after 9/11 that the US should stand by what we say and mean what we say and as far as I was concerned the days of the cat and mouse game with Saddam was time to come to an end.

I agree. My only concern is we seemed to turn our attention more on Iraq and have forgot about BinLaden.

Doomsday101
03-05-2008, 11:56 AM
I agree. My only concern is we seemed to turn our attention more on Iraq and have forgot about BinLaden.

I don't think we did or are doing so now. I think the US learned lessons from the Afghan and Soviet conflict. Had we just gone in balls to the wall I think the entire country would have turned against us and rallied together as they did against the Russians. I do think time is on our side in getting Bin Laden and as we see more and more top members of his group falling I think it may not be much longer before we get him. I do think that is important but I don't think that ends anything in terms of the war or terror and the extremist

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 12:41 PM
My only concern is we seemed to turn our attention more on Iraq and have forgot about BinLaden.

And you have a right to be concerned...because we did just that.

We should have concentrated all of our forces on Afghanistan where bin-Laden and Al-Qaeda were and are now...you know the people who actually attacked us on 9/11.

CanadianCowboysFan
03-05-2008, 01:13 PM
And you have a right to be concerned...because we did just that.

We should have concentrated all of our forces on Afghanistan where bin-Laden and Al-Qaeda were and are now...you know the people who actually attacked us on 9/11.

yeah but the Afghan's didn't have a hit on George's daddy.

Dallas
03-05-2008, 01:20 PM
And you have a right to be concerned...because we did just that.

We should have concentrated all of our forces on Afghanistan where bin-Laden and Al-Qaeda were and are now...you know the people who actually attacked us on 9/11.


Since you know where they are. Why have you not contacted our military? You dems are all about keeping secrets.

All reports say B-Laden actually bases in Pakistan and lives on that side of the border where local tribesman are more apt in aiding him and his terrorist cronies. Ive not read anything in the past 6 months that said B-Laden was back inside and leading in Afganistan. Of course you probably knore more than anyone, since you know where he lives.

You should probably tell someone. :rolleyes:

CanadianCowboysFan
03-05-2008, 01:43 PM
put him down all you want but he is right. If the US had spent half the effort in Afghanistan that it did to overthrow a leader that was no threat to them, perhaps you could have found old Osama by now.

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 01:46 PM
Since you know where they are. Why have you not contacted our military? You dems are all about keeping secrets.

All reports say B-Laden actually bases in Pakistan and lives on that side of the border where local tribesman are more apt in aiding him and his terrorist cronies. Ive not read anything in the past 6 months that said B-Laden was back inside and leading in Afganistan. Of course you probably knore more than anyone, since you know where he lives.

You should probably tell someone. :rolleyes:



The U.S. knows for a fact that Al-Qaeda you know the ones that actually attacked us on 9/11 ARE in Afghanistan...bin-Laden was there and may still be and even if he's not actually in Afghanistan he's just over the border in Pakistan.

You know where he ISN'T?

In Iraq.

Jordan55
03-05-2008, 01:55 PM
I'm a Repulican who would vote for Obama.He needs to get her experience out there,pound the message she promised 2million jobs to NY and wound up with
a loss of 30 thousand instead.Also,she had 2 terms with Bill and couldn't deliver
on healthcare.That experience we don't need.And who could be more scarier
than these Nazis, Der Chaney and Bush.McCain is the one one thta's going to
find himself alone when the dust clears.I guess Obama gives some sort of hope
the way most of us saw in Robert Kennedy,he has really sparked this election
like nobody since.

You Sir, Can not be Republican, by even admitting that you would vote for Obama, you have admitted to having deserted the party.
Bush, Chaney,equal Nazis! please never call yourself a Republican

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 01:57 PM
You Sir, Can not be Republican, by even admitting that you would vote for Obama, you have admitted to having deserted the party.
Bush, Chaney,equal Nazis! please never call yourself a Republican

Calling Cheney a Nazi?

What's the problem?

:p:

iceberg
03-05-2008, 02:05 PM
put him down all you want but he is right. If the US had spent half the effort in Afghanistan that it did to overthrow a leader that was no threat to them, perhaps you could have found old Osama by now.

perhaps osama is only part of the problem. perhaps even as big a figurehead as he is, he's still to be replaced as soon as killed or "other", right? kill him the movement goes on.

who's todays threat?

iran.

who's surrounded now?

iran.

i think bush set up something (albiet by a misguided WMD claim) that people don't really understand and take too literally the things we see most easily.

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 02:12 PM
perhaps osama is only part of the problem. perhaps even as big a figurehead as he is, he's still to be replaced as soon as killed or "other", right? kill him the movement goes on.
who's todays threat?

iran.

who's surrounded now?

iran.

i think bush set up something (albiet by a misguided WMD claim) that people don't really understand and take too literally the things we see most easily.

You can say that about ANY Al-Qaeda member...doesn't mean that we don't go after them...especially THE one that caused 9/11.

I'm not saying that we aren't going after him at all...just not as much as I think we should.

iceberg
03-05-2008, 02:16 PM
You can say that about ANY Al-Qaeda member...doesn't mean that we don't go after them...especially THE one that caused 9/11.

I'm not saying that we aren't going after him at all...just not as much as I think we should.

while i agree we should go after him - what is the ultimate goal, not most visible?

Dallas
03-05-2008, 02:34 PM
while i agree we should go after him - what is the ultimate goal, not most visible?


Ok say we kill Osama. Do the dems think that they will just pack up and go home? No! They will just get another leader and make the organization that much more harder to deal with when you turn Obama into the martyr.

I don't see where killing Obama and getting the guy is going to change anything.

zrinkill
03-05-2008, 02:37 PM
I think Osama has been dead for years.

CanadianCowboysFan
03-05-2008, 02:40 PM
I think Osama has been dead for years.

so why does he keep having tapes played on Fox News ;)

iceberg
03-05-2008, 02:44 PM
Ok say we kill Obama. Do the dems think that they will just pack up and go home? No! They will just get another leader and make the organization that much more harder to deal with when you turn Obama into the martyr.

I don't see where killing Obama and getting the guy is going to change anything.

if we killed obama it might be hard to get anyone to run for president again.

CanadianCowboysFan
03-05-2008, 02:44 PM
if we killed obama it might be hard to get anyone to run for president again.

lol, maybe Dallas is just one of those right wing reactionary Reps who thinks Obama is a mole planted by Al Qaeda

zrinkill
03-05-2008, 02:50 PM
so why does he keep having tapes played on Fox News ;)

You mean the old grainy tapes? Why has there not been a new looking video tape of him in the last 5 years? The other terrorist leaders make new tapes all the time.

Sasquatch
03-05-2008, 02:51 PM
so why does he keep having tapes played on Fox News ;)

Weekend at Osama's?

http://www.lazydork.com/movies/weekendbernie.jpg

Dallas
03-05-2008, 02:55 PM
if we killed obama it might be hard to get anyone to run for president again.


:( You could have fixed that for me. ;)

iceberg
03-05-2008, 02:55 PM
You mean the old grainy tapes? Why has there not been a new looking video tape of him in the last 5 years? The other terrorist leaders make new tapes all the time.

have you ever noticed that bin laden and a tape of bin laden have never been in the room at the same time? hmmm.... :cool:

iceberg
03-05-2008, 02:56 PM
:( You could have fixed that for me. ;)

and ruin the oh-so-hard-to-come-by chuckles in here? PERISH THE THOUGHT! : )

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 02:57 PM
while i agree we should go after him - what is the ultimate goal, not most visible?

The ultimate goal is to make me happy.

:p:

zrinkill
03-05-2008, 02:58 PM
have you ever noticed that bin laden and a tape of bin laden have never been in the room at the same time? hmmm.... :cool:

Say what ya want buddy ...... but I think we got him with our first strike.

But we do not want to make a Martyr out of him.

Jordan55
03-05-2008, 03:00 PM
Calling Cheney a Nazi?

What's the problem?

:p:
Coming from a supposed Republican, I think he posts on a site called move on . org. Hey still thinking your Democratic Presidential
canidates are bringing those jobs back?
Right!!!!

iceberg
03-05-2008, 03:02 PM
Say what ya want buddy ...... but I think we got him with our first strike.

But we do not want to make a Martyr out of him.

oh, i'm just being sarcastic. :) surprise, i know. but i am.

Jordan55
03-05-2008, 03:05 PM
Say what ya want buddy ...... but I think we got him with our first strike.

But we do not want to make a Martyr out of him.

Well one thing is for sure Bill Clinton, had nothing to do with his demise, if he indeed is with his 72 virgins, Bill was to busy with his cigar.

:lmao2:

zrinkill
03-05-2008, 03:14 PM
oh, i'm just being sarcastic. :) surprise, i know. but i am.

I know ..... it sounded more defensive than I meant it too.

Jordan55
03-05-2008, 03:22 PM
oh, i'm just being sarcastic. :) surprise, i know. but i am.

No not you IceBerg, being sarcastic. :bow:

Dallas
03-05-2008, 03:25 PM
I know ..... it sounded more defensive than I meant it too.


For those who dont know. The pic in zrinkills sig is a...


MINDFLAYER !!!! :cool:


Cuz he flays minds n #$%^

Hostile
03-05-2008, 03:32 PM
Say what ya want buddy ...... but I think we got him with our first strike.

But we do not want to make a Martyr out of him.If he was dead though why wouldn't the Taliban and Al Qaeda already be naming him a martyr?

iceberg
03-05-2008, 03:35 PM
If he was dead though why wouldn't the Taliban and Al Qaeda already be naming him a martyr?

why did saddam lie about WMD for 12 years?

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 03:39 PM
Coming from a supposed Republican, I think he posts on a site called move on . org. Hey still thinking your Democratic Presidential
canidates are bringing those jobs back?
Right!!!!

Nope.

Those people need to get real...get a life...stop *****ing and learn a new trade.

Pansy's

:D

Hostile
03-05-2008, 03:41 PM
why did saddam lie about WMD for 12 years?I don't know, and I'm not sharp enough to grasp the relationship between the 2 scenarios. My apologies.

zrinkill
03-05-2008, 03:47 PM
If he was dead though why wouldn't the Taliban and Al Qaeda already be naming him a martyr?

I honestly think that most do not know ..... and the ones who do are directing things in his name because they would not get as much devotion without him.

Its like having a puppet king because you yourself are not charismatic enough to command loyalty.

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 03:54 PM
I don't know, and I'm not sharp enough to grasp the relationship between the 2 scenarios. My apologies.

I think he's saying that Saddam said he had WMD's for 12 years to scare Iran.

The terrorists don't say bin-Laden's dead because when they put out a tape it scares people.

I think that's his relationship between the two.

Danny White
03-05-2008, 03:59 PM
I honestly think that most do not know ..... and the ones who do are directing things in his name because they would not get as much devotion without him.

Its like having a puppet king because you yourself are not charismatic enough to command loyalty.

Or like Weekend at Bernie's. :cool:

zrinkill
03-05-2008, 04:02 PM
Or like Weekend at Bernie's. :cool:

Yes ..... like an Islamic version of Weekend at Bernie's.

BrAinPaiNt
03-05-2008, 04:06 PM
I could be wrong but I think there have been audio tapes since the last video tape.

If I am correct I have to hypothesize that maybe OBL is not dead but instead has suffered injuries. Something that is physically obvious.

Just something to consider.

I just think that if he was dead he would be martyred as having died in battle against the devils (or whatever they call us).

I don't think they would try to hide it if he did die.

I used to think he was dead but now I don't. Not only because of the reasons mentioned above but also the idea that the Administration would proudly pronounce it. They have taken a beating over this whole thing so I am pretty sure they would announce it.

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 04:06 PM
http://www.allthingsbeautiful.com/photos/uncategorized/eagle_pissed_off.jpg

Hostile
03-05-2008, 04:17 PM
I think he's saying that Saddam said he had WMD's for 12 years to scare Iran.

The terrorists don't say bin-Laden's dead because when they put out a tape it scares people.

I think that's his relationship between the two.Ah gotcha. Thanks.

iceberg
03-05-2008, 05:08 PM
I think he's saying that Saddam said he had WMD's for 12 years to scare Iran.

The terrorists don't say bin-Laden's dead because when they put out a tape it scares people.

I think that's his relationship between the two.

yep. that's it. : ) they want the illusion of power vs having it.

Cajuncowboy
03-05-2008, 09:48 PM
You people are killing me.

I want NO CHANCE...not one iota of a chance, not one tiny percentage of a chance, that she hangs around and some how pulls this out.

NO NO NO NO.

You people are putting too much faith into a candidate that most of you don't even like in McCain. He IS beatable and make no mistake about that.

No Way do I want her to have ANY chance of becoming the next president and as long as she hangs around her chances are there.

It would be better for all if she loses the primaries as early as possible.

He may be beatable, but Hillary is a lead pipe lock to lose. She is miss adorable by the left. She is bringing Bill back for another spin in the WH. And yet she can't hardly get the nomination. All the while, her and Obama keep punching each other in the mouth. They keep giving the Republicans the playbook on how to beat each of them. I figure, let them bloody each other, let them dig up the dirt and we can stay out of it until the general.

Like I said, It's a beautiful thing they are doing.

DallasFanSince86
03-05-2008, 10:23 PM
He may be beatable, but Hillary is a lead pipe lock to lose. She is miss adorable by the left. She is bringing Bill back for another spin in the WH. And yet she can't hardly get the nomination. All the while, her and Obama keep punching each other in the mouth. They keep giving the Republicans the playbook on how to beat each of them. I figure, let them bloody each other, let them dig up the dirt and we can stay out of it until the general.

Like I said, It's a beautiful thing they are doing.
Agreed.

silverbear
03-05-2008, 11:02 PM
:yourock: :clap2: :beer2: :grouphug: :cheers: :beer1: :toast2: :toast: :dance2: :dance3: :dance: :fogeys: :flagwave: :jackpot: :beatit: :mchammer:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080306/pl_nm/usa_politics_poll_dc

Presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain trails Democrats Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in hypothetical matchups, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released on Wednesday.

Illinois Sen. Obama leads McCain by 12 percentage points -- 52 percent to 40 percent; New York Sen. Clinton leads McCain by 6 points -- 50 percent to 44 percent, the poll found.


Just to rain on your parade a little, CC... :D

silverbear
03-05-2008, 11:04 PM
In the end when all is said and done whoever is the nominee will have the support of the others voters.

The Democrats will be united in not wanting to extend Bush's term by voting for John W. McCain.

I mean if you support Hillary or Obama and believe in what they do are you just going to go well just because my person didn't win I'm going to go and vote for McCain who doesn't support just about anything that I want?

It doesn't make sense. And if you do well you're stupid.

In the end don't you want the person in there that holds your views and beliefs? It's not like Hillary and Obama are polar opposites or anything.

They are fighting for the nomination as they should.

This celebrating over them fighting for the nomination will in the end be much to do about nothing.

It's not like McCain is some shoo in or anything...he's very capable of being beat and everyone knows it.

John McCain is a rather weak candidate, trying to sell the American public on the virtues of a war that said public detests...

silverbear
03-05-2008, 11:06 PM
When you are spending more money than a drunken sailor at a cat house, or even a hardcore liberal, and you are also at the same time yelling out tax cuts tax cuts...you are being the worst of both worlds.

In other words it is flat out stupid to be doing tax cuts when you are spending like a fiscally irresponsible drunk.

Yup... ain't nothin' like a war to pump-start an economy, albeit artificially, either...

silverbear
03-05-2008, 11:08 PM
a war of choice? when does anyone chose to go to war? war is usually forced on you one way or another. I know your going to say Bush forced the war so go right ahead

Nope, he CHOSE to invade Iraq... made up a song and dance to get us to go along with it, too...

We didn't need to go to war with Iraq, they were absolutely no threat to us... worse, by invading them, we let the real enemy, the one we should have been making war against, get clean off the hook...

That's the legacy of Dubya, in a nutshell... he screwed up the War on Terror...

silverbear
03-05-2008, 11:09 PM
You know, when you have to distort reality to defend a policy, the policy probably isn't all that good.

And that ought to be the epitaph for the Dubya years...

silverbear
03-05-2008, 11:16 PM
And my point is War costs money. No matter if it is WWI or WWII. We didnt want those wars either. As I said regardless of if you support the Iraq war or not. Now is not the time for a complete pull out of our troops

No, let's get a couple-three thousand more of our troops killed, propping up a corrupt, unstable regime... let's help those folks have a full-blown civil war, see how many tens of thousands more of them we can "help"...

And let's bankrupt ourselves doing it...

BRILLIANT!!!

This is precisely why I can't vote for John McCain... as Republicans go, I admire the guy, if only because I've seen him be the "maverick" in his party, I've seen him stand up against the party line...

But nobody who even tries to justify this war, or remaining in occupation of Iraq, will ever get my vote... that one's basic, no way of working around it... he could be one thousand percent right about everything else, and I still couldn't support him so long as he tells me we need to remain in Iraq...

We've screwed that country over enough, the only thing we owe them is an abject apology for what we've done to them...

Danny White
03-05-2008, 11:18 PM
John McCain is a rather weak candidate, trying to sell the American public on the virtues of a war that said public detests...

I'm interested to see how this point plays out throughout the election.

On the face of it, you're right. It's insane for the Republicans to be waging the next Presidential campaign on support of the war, but that appears to be the way it's heading.

But despite all this, I think McCain has a good shot in the general against either Democrat.

silverbear
03-05-2008, 11:24 PM
I'm interested to see how this point plays out throughout the election.

On the face of it, you're right. It's insane for the Republicans to be waging the next Presidential campaign on support of the war, but that appears to be the way it's heading.

But despite all this, I think McCain has a good shot in the general against either Democrat.

I really don't, for two reasons-- the war, and he's just not a very good candidate... the former will be a bigger factor than the latter...

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 11:28 PM
John McCain is a rather weak candidate, trying to sell the American public on the virtues of a war that said public detests...

That's why I don't get all the supposed celebrations...either one...and that INCLUDES Hillary can beat the guy as that poll shows.

Right now it's about the economy and the war and W. McCain by his own admission doesn't know much about the economy and he's still as you say trying to sell a war to people who don't want it anymore.

I would venture to say that that's very good for the Democrats. :D

Danny White
03-05-2008, 11:30 PM
I really don't, for two reasons-- the war, and he's just not a very good candidate... the former will be a bigger factor than the latter...

No matter which way it goes, it's going to be a very close election.

The popular vote will be 4 or 5 point swing, at most.

And just like the past two Presidential elections, the overall decision will probably come down to a few thousand votes in one or two states.

It would be the epitome of arrogance for either party to think otherwise given recent history.

ConcordCowboy
03-05-2008, 11:35 PM
No matter which way it goes, it's going to be a very close election.

The popular vote will be 4 or 5 point swing, at most.

And just like the past two Presidential elections, the overall decision will probably come down to a few thousand votes in one or two states.

It would be the epitome of arrogance for either party to think otherwise given recent history.

Dammit if it does...Frickin Ohio better go Democrat this time. :D

Cajuncowboy
03-06-2008, 12:47 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080306/pl_nm/usa_politics_poll_dc

Presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain trails Democrats Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in hypothetical matchups, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released on Wednesday.

Illinois Sen. Obama leads McCain by 12 percentage points -- 52 percent to 40 percent; New York Sen. Clinton leads McCain by 6 points -- 50 percent to 44 percent, the poll found.


Just to rain on your parade a little, CC... :D

It's ok. Here's some rain for you...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Looking to the general election, John McCain has a slight lead over both Democrats. McCain now leads Obama 48% to 43% and Clinton 46% to 45% (see recent daily results). A Rasmussen Reports video suggests that the Clinton victories in Texas and Ohio are good news for John McCain. In Washington State, McCain leads Clinton and is essentially even with Obama. The Governor’s race in Washington is also a dead-heat.

Nationally, McCain is viewed favorably by 52% and unfavorably by 45%. Obama’s numbers have slipped a bit recently and he is now viewed favorably by 50% of likely voters nationwide, unfavorably by 48%. Clinton earns positive reviews from 49% of Likely Voters nationwide and negative assessments from 50% (see recent daily results).

So there you go!:)

Cajuncowboy
03-06-2008, 12:53 AM
Nope, he CHOSE to invade Iraq... made up a song and dance to get us to go along with it, too...

We didn't need to go to war with Iraq, they were absolutely no threat to us... worse, by invading them, we let the real enemy, the one we should have been making war against, get clean off the hook...

That's the legacy of Dubya, in a nutshell... he screwed up the War on Terror...

You do realize this is not a new war? Right?

This is a continuation from the Gulf war. We did not have a surrender nor a end of war declaration. We had a cease fire based on Saddam's adherence to UN resolutions which he violated.

And how has he screwed up the WOT?

The goal of the WOT is to keep America safe. Have we been hit since 9/11?

Do you not think they have tried?

We know we foiled several of their planned attacks.

Why do you think they attacked England and other places instead of America?

Because we were successful in the WOT. And that means not allowing the attacks here, on our streets.

And I agree with one thing, The WOT will be Bush's legacy. And 20 years from now, it will be one which we will all say, we were glad he was President at this time.

Can you imagine a President Gore during this time.

:shoot6:

silverbear
03-06-2008, 01:10 AM
It's ok. Here's some rain for you...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Looking to the general election, John McCain has a slight lead over both Democrats. McCain now leads Obama 48% to 43% and Clinton 46% to 45% (see recent daily results). A Rasmussen Reports video suggests that the Clinton victories in Texas and Ohio are good news for John McCain. In Washington State, McCain leads Clinton and is essentially even with Obama. The Governor’s race in Washington is also a dead-heat.

Nationally, McCain is viewed favorably by 52% and unfavorably by 45%. Obama’s numbers have slipped a bit recently and he is now viewed favorably by 50% of likely voters nationwide, unfavorably by 48%. Clinton earns positive reviews from 49% of Likely Voters nationwide and negative assessments from 50% (see recent daily results).

So there you go!:)

For a broad overview of the most recent polls, click on the following link:

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm

You'll find some that have McCain doing OK, some that having him doing not so well... but what calls Rasmussen's poll into doubt is that in none of the others does he fare better against Obama than he does against Clinton, as he does in the Rasmussen poll...

It should also be noted that Rasmussen and Fox seem to come up with the most optimistic polls, if you're a Republican... this has been true for a long time now...

silverbear
03-06-2008, 01:19 AM
You do realize this is not a new war? Right?

This is a continuation from the Gulf war.

No, it's not... if it was, we would have had UN support for it...

And how has he screwed up the WOT?

By diverting troops and resources away from Afghanistan, where our real enemy was located...

The goal of the WOT is to keep America safe. Have we been hit since 9/11?

I am past sick of that GARBAGE argument... no, we haven't been hit since 9/11, but the reason for that is we're conveniently sending out young people over there for them to kill...

We have lost more Americans in this bogus war than we have had killed by terrorists in the last 20 years...

We know we foiled several of their planned attacks.

But we didn't foil them because we invaded Iraq, we foiled them because we developed better intelligence...

you think they attacked England and other places instead of America?

Because they're trying to discourage our allies, leaving us isolated on the world stage... and lo and behold, the Japanese are pulling out, the Aussies are pulling out...

It's actually a pretty good strategy...

we were successful in the WOT.

If you think Dubya's little war has made us all safer, you're delusional... all he has done is ratchet up hatred of America exponentially...


gree with one thing, The WOT will be Bush's legacy. And 20 years from now, it will be one which we will all say, we were glad he was President at this time.

LOL... you ARE delusional...

imagine a President Gore during this time.

You mean, imagine we never screwed up and invaded a sovereign nation that posed us no threat?? I only wish I could imagine such a world...

DallasFanSince86
03-06-2008, 10:14 AM
You do realize this is not a new war? Right?

This is a continuation from the Gulf war. We did not have a surrender nor a end of war declaration. We had a cease fire based on Saddam's adherence to UN resolutions which he violated.

And how has he screwed up the WOT?

The goal of the WOT is to keep America safe. Have we been hit since 9/11?

Do you not think they have tried?

We know we foiled several of their planned attacks.

Why do you think they attacked England and other places instead of America?

Because we were successful in the WOT. And that means not allowing the attacks here, on our streets.

And I agree with one thing, The WOT will be Bush's legacy. And 20 years from now, it will be one which we will all say, we were glad he was President at this time.

Can you imagine a President Gore during this time.

:shoot6:

:clap2:

zrinkill
03-06-2008, 10:16 AM
You do realize this is not a new war? Right?

This is a continuation from the Gulf war. We did not have a surrender nor a end of war declaration. We had a cease fire based on Saddam's adherence to UN resolutions which he violated.

And how has he screwed up the WOT?

The goal of the WOT is to keep America safe. Have we been hit since 9/11?

Do you not think they have tried?

We know we foiled several of their planned attacks.

Why do you think they attacked England and other places instead of America?

Because we were successful in the WOT. And that means not allowing the attacks here, on our streets.

And I agree with one thing, The WOT will be Bush's legacy. And 20 years from now, it will be one which we will all say, we were glad he was President at this time.

Can you imagine a President Gore during this time.

:shoot6:

Nice ..

Doomsday101
03-06-2008, 10:19 AM
You do realize this is not a new war? Right?

This is a continuation from the Gulf war. We did not have a surrender nor a end of war declaration. We had a cease fire based on Saddam's adherence to UN resolutions which he violated.

And how has he screwed up the WOT?

The goal of the WOT is to keep America safe. Have we been hit since 9/11?

Do you not think they have tried?

We know we foiled several of their planned attacks.

Why do you think they attacked England and other places instead of America?

Because we were successful in the WOT. And that means not allowing the attacks here, on our streets.

And I agree with one thing, The WOT will be Bush's legacy. And 20 years from now, it will be one which we will all say, we were glad he was President at this time.

Can you imagine a President Gore during this time.

:shoot6:

I agree. The War with Iraq was based on the resolutions from the Gulf War over the 13 year period more resolutions were added but in the end they all came back to the enforcement of the original resolutions which Saddam continued to violate

Sasquatch
03-06-2008, 10:21 AM
I agree. The War with Iraq was based on the resolutions from the Gulf War over the 13 year period more resolutions were added but in the end they all came back to the enforcement of the original resolutions which Saddam continued to violate

It's already been established in other threads that member states WERE NOT authorized to act unilaterally, that all matters were to be referred back to the security council. Stating the contrary a million times does not change reality.

iceberg
03-06-2008, 10:23 AM
It's already been established in other threads that member states WERE NOT authorized to act unilaterally, that all matters were to be referred back to the security council. Stating the contrary a million times does not change reality.

and shouting AMERICA SUCKS a million times doesn't make it so either, sas.

heavyg
03-06-2008, 10:23 AM
It's already been established in other threads that member states WERE NOT authorized to act unilaterally, that all matters were to be referred back to the security council. Stating the contrary a million times does not change reality.

The thing is the UN is like a little yappy dog. Will bark and bark and bark. Never do anything. The UN is worthless IMO

Doomsday101
03-06-2008, 10:24 AM
It's already been established in other threads that member states WERE NOT authorized to act unilaterally, that all matters were to be referred back to the security council. Stating the contrary a million times does not change reality.

Some member states were not willing to enforce them that is why the US and the UK as well as some other members did move forward. The others ended up abstaining. Fact is you don't want to deal with the reality you want to deal in the liberal rhetoric. In the end both Rep and Dem voted on going to war Bush could not do that alone.

zrinkill
03-06-2008, 10:29 AM
Fact is you don't want to deal with the reality you want to deal in the liberal rhetoric. In the end both Rep and Dem voted on going to war Bush could not do that alone.

:bow:

DallasFanSince86
03-06-2008, 10:32 AM
Some member states were not willing to enforce them that is why the US and the UK as well as some other members did move forward. The others ended up abstaining. Fact is you don't want to deal with the reality you want to deal in the liberal rhetoric. In the end both Rep and Dem voted on going to war Bush could not do that alone.
Exactly, I was reading a book or an article a few years ago and IIRC the President can send troops over for 90 days and then they have to pull out unless Congress votes to go to war. I think that is what it said but I won't swear to it. Can anyone confirm or correct any of this?

heavyg
03-06-2008, 10:35 AM
Some member states were not willing to enforce them that is why the US and the UK as well as some other members did move forward. The others ended up abstaining. Fact is you don't want to deal with the reality you want to deal in the liberal rhetoric. In the end both Rep and Dem voted on going to war Bush could not do that alone.

Yeah but they voted for it before they voted against it.

iceberg
03-06-2008, 10:36 AM
Some member states were not willing to enforce them that is why the US and the UK as well as some other members did move forward. The others ended up abstaining. Fact is you don't want to deal with the reality you want to deal in the liberal rhetoric. In the end both Rep and Dem voted on going to war Bush could not do that alone.

Yeah but they voted for it before they voted against it.

anyone else wind up lost here?

heavyg
03-06-2008, 10:46 AM
anyone else wind up lost here?

He was saying Bush couldnt go to War without congress voting for it....I was using a play on words from Kerry saying he voted for the war before he was against it.

iceberg
03-06-2008, 11:07 AM
He was saying Bush couldnt go to War without congress voting for it....I was using a play on words from Kerry saying he voted for the war before he was against it.

thank you. : )

BrAinPaiNt
03-06-2008, 11:48 AM
and shouting AMERICA SUCKS a million times doesn't make it so either, sas.

Who is shouting that?

zrinkill
03-06-2008, 11:52 AM
Who is shouting that?

YEA! Sassy is way to subtle in the way he bashes the U.S. for it to ever be considered shouting .....

;)

iceberg
03-06-2008, 11:55 AM
Who is shouting that?

say something postiive about the country sass comes along to "bach" it.

maybe it's not "shouting" per se, but it gnaws on you after awhile. w/o JT to push the exreme way out there the extreme falls, i suppose.

iceberg
03-06-2008, 11:56 AM
YEA! Sassy is way to subtle in the way he bashes the U.S. for it to ever be considered shouting .....

;)

if you whisper the same rhetoric over and over and over and over and over again, a whisper can become a scream just out of sheer annoyance.

Sasquatch
03-06-2008, 12:03 PM
YEA! Sassy is way to subtle in the way he bashes the U.S. for it to ever be considered shouting .....

;)

Is it bashing the Cowboys to say that we had the 15th ranked running game in the NFL and need to improve in that area?

Give me a break. I asked a very simple question to which no one had a credible response.


http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/mt/archives/We%27re%20Number.jpg

BrAinPaiNt
03-06-2008, 12:04 PM
I think you guys are just over sensitive to anyone that may give you an opposing opinion or view.

This is not that guy from Argentina or where he is from.

But that is just me.

From someone who plays devils advocate or just gives a different view point to someone is shouting america sucks...such a stretch that I doubt you would care much for if someone did the same to you.

zrinkill
03-06-2008, 12:08 PM
Is it bashing the Cowboys to say that we had the 15th ranked running game in the NFL and need to improve in that area?

Give me a break. I asked a very simple question to which no one had a credible response.


http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/mt/archives/We%27re%20Number.jpg

Come on Sassy .... I was joking.

You know I love your liberal ways ....... you are the Yen to my Yang :eek:


:laugh2:

zrinkill
03-06-2008, 12:11 PM
I think you guys are just over sensitive to anyone that may give you an opposing opinion or view.

This is not that guy from Argentina or where he is from.

But that is just me.

From someone who plays devils advocate or just gives a different view point to someone is shouting america sucks...such a stretch that I doubt you would care much for if someone did the same to you.

We have a history with Sassy ...... we all play our roles and we go round and round.

Personally I love the guy ...... he makes the political forum fun for me and we almost always agree on Football related things (which is whats really important)

So stay out of our family arguments hippie!

:p:

(and you should know by now BP that I am almost never serious unless someone attacks our military men ....... :chop:)

Sasquatch
03-06-2008, 12:12 PM
You know I love your liberal ways .......

Don't be coy. I know what you're really after....

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/kinser/images/humanbrain7.jpg

zrinkill
03-06-2008, 12:14 PM
Don't be coy. I know what you're really after....

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/kinser/images/humanbrain7.jpg


Been trying to get it for over 5 years ...... :bow:

BrAinPaiNt
03-06-2008, 01:36 PM
Don't be coy. I know what you're really after....

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/kinser/images/humanbrain7.jpg

How did this turn into a robert byrd Zombie brains thread? :p:

iceberg
03-06-2008, 01:47 PM
I think you guys are just over sensitive to anyone that may give you an opposing opinion or view.

This is not that guy from Argentina or where he is from.

But that is just me.

From someone who plays devils advocate or just gives a different view point to someone is shouting america sucks...such a stretch that I doubt you would care much for if someone did the same to you.

but when you play it each and every single hand, bp? when i had my own site sas did frequent (before he ignored me, now on 2 more boards) i flat out asked him once if he'd try to balance his bashing with some positive news just to show he could.

he said no.

this isn't to say i don't agree with some of his views or where he's coming from but sooner or later you just realize regardless of what is done, who does it, why it's done - he'll be there to whine it's not enough.

and bp, if i was a broken record of discontent yes, i'd expect sooner or later to catch flack for it. if he doesn't want the flack that comes with being the permanant devils advocate then don't be the perm. devils advocate.

BrAinPaiNt
03-06-2008, 03:30 PM
but when you play it each and every single hand, bp? when i had my own site sas did frequent (before he ignored me, now on 2 more boards) i flat out asked him once if he'd try to balance his bashing with some positive news just to show he could.

he said no.

this isn't to say i don't agree with some of his views or where he's coming from but sooner or later you just realize regardless of what is done, who does it, why it's done - he'll be there to whine it's not enough.

and bp, if i was a broken record of discontent yes, i'd expect sooner or later to catch flack for it. if he doesn't want the flack that comes with being the permanant devils advocate then don't be the perm. devils advocate.

Maybe he likes the idea that you will knee jerk and react to it every single time?

Sasquatch
03-06-2008, 03:57 PM
Maybe he likes the idea that you will knee jerk and react to it every single time?

I try not to encourage message board stalkers by responding to them or baiting them.

zrinkill
03-06-2008, 04:00 PM
I try not to encourage message board stalkers by responding to them or baiting them.

What about me? :D

Sasquatch
03-06-2008, 04:05 PM
What about me? :D

More of a nemesis with whom I have to form temporary alliances from time to time. :D

ConcordCowboy
03-06-2008, 04:10 PM
I try not to encourage message board stalkers by responding to them or baiting them.


:laugh2:

Dallas
03-06-2008, 04:21 PM
I try not to encourage message board stalkers by responding to them or baiting them.

Did you tell them about the bridge you had for sale in Brooklyn? :rolleyes:

CanadianCowboysFan
03-06-2008, 05:52 PM
Zrin, I have to say you are an annoying individual on here but damn you have a great signature pic, it's positively evil