NY Jets eyeing McFadden?

[TheSport78]

League insiders tell the NY Daily News that "its looking more and more like" the Jets will take Darren McFadden with the No. 6 overall pick.

He'd of course have to be there, but the smart money is on McFadden not being a top-five pick because of off-field concerns. The Jets are expected to use this draft to upgrade their overall team speed. McFadden would be a start.
Source: New York Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2008/03/ayanbadejo-could-be-next-jet.html)

Ok so the question has to be asked. What would it take to move up to the #5 overall spot (Kansas City)? KC has a lot of team needs and may consider trading w/ Dallas

I say our two first rounders should do the trick. This draft is deep with CB and RB where we could land them in rounds 2-4. Just a thought

[adamknite]

League insiders tell the NY Daily News that "its looking more and more like" the Jets will take Darren McFadden with the No. 6 overall pick.

He'd of course have to be there, but the smart money is on McFadden not being a top-five pick because of off-field concerns. The Jets are expected to use this draft to upgrade their overall team speed. McFadden would be a start.
Source: New York Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2008/03/ayanbadejo-could-be-next-jet.html)

Ok so the question has to be asked. What would it take to move up to the #5 overall spot (Kansas City)? KC has a lot of team needs and may consider trading w/ Dallas

I say our two first rounders should do the trick. This draft is deep with CB and RB where we could land them in rounds 2-4. Just a thought

-.- I don't see KC giving up the #5 pick for two late first rounders.

[bbailey423]

lookit....Jerry is not going to pay McFadden AND Barber...it's just not going to happen...get that through your head...IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

[batman36]

KC's gonna want as near a sure thing (Jake Long) as they can get, and moving that far down takes them out of that possibility.

[dmq]

I would say that he won't get past 6. The Jets need any and all offensive fire power.

[marchetta]

Great. Let the Jets have DMac, and we can pick up Ray Rice. It will be a repeat of when the Jets took Blair Thomas, and we "settled" for Emmitt Smith. I do believe history could repeat itself, and Ray Rice will prove to be the superior RB just as Emmitt did.

[sago1]

Jets sure didn't show much when we played them last Thanksgiving, but then their QB wasn't that good either. I guess their defense might have been better then they played us since the team beat the Steelers the Sunday before they played us. Still can't understand how that Jet team beat the Steelers but then I didn't believe Steelers were that good anyway no matter what the experts were saying. Steelers to too many lesser teams that they should have beaten if they legit.

[batman36]

Great. Let the Jets have DMac, and we can pick up Ray Rice. It will be a repeat of when the Jets took Blair Thomas, and we "settled" for Emmitt Smith. I do believe history could repeat itself, and Ray Rice will prove to be the superior RB just as Emmitt did.

Rice may be a really good player, but McFadden will be special, I believe. Now, that doesn't mean I want the Cowboys to use a lot of picks to move up to get him, but if a workable deal could be had, then why not add someone like him to your roster?

[Big Dakota]

I've come to realize MBIII is pretty special in his own right. He touched the ball 248 times for 1257 yards and 12 TDs. He's the toughest SOB in the NFL IMHO. Personally, i don't want to give that up and like others have said, let's be real, you can't have MBIII and DMac BOTH and expect them to be happy with the touches, to say nothing of what it does to your cap. MBIII needs to touch the ball 250 times minimum. That doesn't leave enough touches to justify DMac's cost.

[Q_the_man]

Believe me if the Cowboys traded up and grabbed DMC their would be plenty of happy fans on this forum period. no matter how mad u would be when the trade first is announce you guys would be over it in a heartbeat..........

[Yeagermeister]

Believe me if the Cowboys traded up and grabbed DMC their would be plenty of happy fans on this forum period. no matter how mad u would be when the trade first is announce you guys would be over it in a heartbeat..........

Not when you realize we lose the ability to resign other players because we can't afford them next year.

And we didn't fix our biggest weakness.....CB.

[mmillman]

lookit....Jerry is not going to pay McFadden AND Barber...it's just not going to happen...get that through your head...IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!


He doesn't have to, he already transition tagged Barber get that through your head. He can pay Barber for one year and groom whomever or he can negotiate a longer term deal for Barber and pick a speedy rookie to compliment him, or he can let him go to someone for a first and third. Lots of flexibility.

[Rampage]

He doesn't have to, he already transition tagged Barber get that through your head. He can pay Barber for one year and groom whomever or he can negotiate a longer term deal for Barber and pick a speedy rookie to compliment him, or he can let him go to someone for a first and third. Lots of flexibility.
exactly. plus barber is probably gonna want more money than turner got which would be like a 40 million dollar contract. that's too much money for a guy who runs as reckless as he does. jerry will be making a huge mistake by passing on mcfadden and giving barber a huge contract.

[Clove]

lookit....Jerry is not going to pay McFadden AND Barber...it's just not going to happen...get that through your head...IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!I'll echo this. If we make a trade for McFad, you can bet your pebbles that Barber will be included, which he should be.

You're not paying 2 RBs that that type of mula, when you have other areas to spend it on.

[Muhast]

Rice may be a really good player, but McFadden will be special, I believe. Now, that doesn't mean I want the Cowboys to use a lot of picks to move up to get him, but if a workable deal could be had, then why not add someone like him to your roster?


Mcfadden isnt as good as A.P, if we wanted a wow runningback last year was our chance.

[REDVOLUTION]

If Jerry doesnt make a play for Barber and he gets to the Jets pick. He is a Jet.

The Jet fans wont stand for Mangini passing him up.

[CrazyCowboy]

Man, Barber hits hard.....real HARD!

[dbair1967]

Great. Let the Jets have DMac, and we can pick up Ray Rice. It will be a repeat of when the Jets took Blair Thomas, and we "settled" for Emmitt Smith. I do believe history could repeat itself, and Ray Rice will prove to be the superior RB just as Emmitt did.

Ray Rice is not half the RB Emmitt Smith was at Florida...just because he is short and has big legs doesnt mean he is Emmitt Smith..he doesnt have Emmitt's power or his vision

as for Blair Thomas/DMAC comparison, dream on

David

[CowboyManDan]

lookit....Jerry is not going to pay McFadden AND Barber...it's just not going to happen...get that through your head...IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

I agree we're not going to pay 2 backs big money. But I don't think it's a coincidence we haven't worked out a long term deal with Barber yet.

It feels like to me that Jerry is leaving the option open of landing McFadden somehow...and if we do, then we only have Barber's tender contract ($2.5million) for next season, he becomes a FA after the season and if McFadden showed the right stuff, then Barber is signed elsewhere.

If a deal can't be made to move up for McFadden and a back that seems like a good compliment to Barber is available at one of our first day picks (probably not round 1 but possibly), then I could see taking that back and then maybe working on a long term deal for Barber before or after the season.

[Nors]

No way Manginirat signs this rad flag fumbler.

The Parcells tree of Coaches abhore fumblers.

[dbair1967]

No way Manginirat signs this rad flag fumbler.

The Parcells tree of Coaches abhore fumblers.

I see alot of people bring this up, but he isnt a fumbler...everyone looks at the number from last yr, but they dont take into account a few things:

1) several of the fumbles he's given "credit" for were bad snaps/exchanges when he was taking direct snaps in that "wild hog" formation

2) he played basically the entire year with a rib injury

3) he wasnt a "fumbler" his first two yrs, totalling only 4 each yr before

4) and of course then there's people commenting on him that have hardly (if ever) seen him play

of course, none of this supports the "agenda" :rolleyes:

David

[BraveHeartFan]

Believe me if the Cowboys traded up and grabbed DMC their would be plenty of happy fans on this forum period. no matter how mad u would be when the trade first is announce you guys would be over it in a heartbeat..........


You're right. I'd be over it super quick. That super quick being nearly a year later. The only way I'd wind up happy about jerry doing that is if he ran for 2100 hundred yards and 25 touchdowns and we won the Superbowl. If anything less than all that happened then, no, I wouldn't be over it or happy.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ray Rice is not half the RB Emmitt Smith was at Florida...just because he is short and has big legs doesnt mean he is Emmitt Smith..he doesnt have Emmitt's power or his vision

as for Blair Thomas/DMAC comparison, dream on

David

It has little to do with their body type. its the way Rice cuts and his vision. He can be on the centers left shoulder see a gap form outside the tackle and cut to the tackles left shoulder and still maintain north south momentum. And for someone that likes to to talk about not watching DMCyou apparently need to watch some footage of Rice. no power?!?

We probably would need to trade up in the second to get him.

[TheSport78]

Marion Barber is a great runningback but he's not special. If Barber continues to run the way he is now, he won't be in the NFL in the next 3-4 years. Granted McFadden hasn't seen one down in the NFL, but you just know when a RB is special. Can you imagine McFadden running behind Gurode and Bigg? McFadden was on a ridiculous one dimensional offense in college. Imagine DMac on a powerful offense like ours. Dallas is known as a passing team now, but I believe McFadden would bring a lot more balance to our offense. If he falls, you have to pull the trigger b/c this draft is deep with CB. The only mistake Dallas made was not picking up a FA WR. This draft class isn't deep at WR so that's the only hesitation I have about packaging picks for McFadden.

[Sandyf]

Personally, I think the draft is going to surprise us and McFadden will fall to around 13 where Carolina picks and I would bet we could make a trade there.

[jobberone]

They would have to package Barber and the two number ones.

[Beast_from_East]

They would have to package Barber and the two number ones.

So we are trading the equivalent of 3 first rounders + a 3rd rounder for a rookie RB to replace a probowl RB.

And we only have 2 legit CBs on the roster and both missed games due to injury last year.

Does anybody else think this is just freaking retarded?:bang2:

[montgod]

So we are trading the equivalent of 3 first rounders + a 3rd rounder for a rookie RB to replace a probowl RB.

And we only have 2 legit CBs on the roster and both missed games due to injury last year.

Does anybody else think this is just freaking retarded?:bang2:


It's no use in even arguing the point until after the draft. There are always going to be diehards out there for the player they want, and no matter how much logic you use, nothing will change. It's just a wait and see like any other draft pick to see how things pan out in the end.

I do agree and think that if the Raiders pass on McFadden, the Jets would be the next logical team to pick McFadden and hope he can revive their offensive woes since T. Jones is not the answer.

[dbair1967]

They would have to package Barber and the two number ones.

no, we wouldnt

David

[Yeagermeister]

So we are trading the equivalent of 3 first rounders + a 3rd rounder for a rookie RB to replace a probowl RB.

And we only have 2 legit CBs on the roster and both missed games due to injury last year.

Does anybody else think this is just freaking retarded?:bang2:

Ahh another voice of reason. It's nice to see someone else can can see it.

[Cowboys2008]

No...they got a Jones' brother already.

[bbailey423]

I agree we're not going to pay 2 backs big money. But I don't think it's a coincidence we haven't worked out a long term deal with Barber yet.

It feels like to me that Jerry is leaving the option open of landing McFadden somehow...and if we do, then we only have Barber's tender contract ($2.5million) for next season, he becomes a FA after the season and if McFadden showed the right stuff, then Barber is signed elsewhere.

If a deal can't be made to move up for McFadden and a back that seems like a good compliment to Barber is available at one of our first day picks (probably not round 1 but possibly), then I could see taking that back and then maybe working on a long term deal for Barber before or after the season.
I cannot forsee ANY scenario where we take a commodity that we got in the 4th..groomed into a Pro Bowl back worthy of a first round pick...and let him walk for NOTHING