View Full Version : Obama closing the gap in Pennsylvania
Heisenberg
04-01-2008, 09:10 AM
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/state_toplines/pennsylvania/toplines_pennsylvania_democratic_primary_march_31_ 2008
Clinton 47%
Obama 42%
WiPatfan
04-01-2008, 09:22 AM
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/state_toplines/pennsylvania/toplines_pennsylvania_democratic_primary_march_31_ 2008
Clinton 47%
Obama 42%
Yep, and now the Clintons will be spinning the tale that a 5% Hillary victory will be a "blow out!"
I am still of the mind that Obama will lose Pennsylvania by 10% no matter what the polls say. Both sides have their backers, very little will change from now until June. I'd argue that we can pretty much figure out who will win each state or territory from here on out.
Polls don't matter anymore; it's all about managing expectations. Fortunately for Obama, the over-riding expectation is that Hillary has lost the nomination.
StanleySpadowski
04-01-2008, 09:51 AM
I live in the reddest area of the PA "T" but locally, the few people who vote Democratic all seem to be going Obama. I have yet to see a single Clinton yard sign while probably a dozen or more Obama signs.
There were also a few people with Obama buttons on amongst the parents picking their children up after school yesterday.
My guess is that Clinton carries Philly and the suburbs by 20% while Obama carries Pittsburgh by 10% and the "Alabama in between" by upwards of 25%. Depending on turnout, that would give Clinton a 4-8 point win.
StanleySpadowski
04-01-2008, 01:07 PM
I finally did see a lone "Hillary" sign in front of an AFSCME office complex. They usually have banners, dozens of yard signs...
BrAinPaiNt
04-01-2008, 01:35 PM
I finally did see a lone "Hillary" sign in front of an AFSCME office complex. They usually have banners, dozens of yard signs...
Did you steal it and throw it in the dumpster like a good guy would?
Hostile
04-01-2008, 01:43 PM
If she were to lose Pennsylvania would she hang it up finally?
StanleySpadowski
04-01-2008, 02:03 PM
Did you steal it and throw it in the dumpster like a good guy would?
Nah, there'd probably be some big "dirty tricks" backlash.....
Heck, Obama eating a hot dog then rolling a 37 at the local bowling alley has been the lead story the last couple of nights on the news.
I don't bowl but my 4 year old rolled a 46 without the gutter guard at the same lanes a few weeks ago during a birthday party to show you how bad that is.
Obama's made a joke out of it but quite a few people in this bowling heavy area think he's making a joke out of them. Trying to show people you're everyman only works when you are.
StanleySpadowski
04-01-2008, 02:04 PM
If she were to lose Pennsylvania would she hang it up finally?
She won't lose PA. She has Rendell's Philly machine backing her. Whispering Acres or Forest Lawn won't stop voting until she has a lead.
Heisenberg
04-01-2008, 02:44 PM
If she were to lose Pennsylvania would she hang it up finally?
I've heard quite a few analysts say that she'd immediately withdraw if she lost Pennsylvania. I think the chances are slim, but I think she'd be done if it did happen.
BrAinPaiNt
04-01-2008, 03:39 PM
Nah, there'd probably be some big "dirty tricks" backlash.....
Heck, Obama eating a hot dog then rolling a 37 at the local bowling alley has been the lead story the last couple of nights on the news.
I don't bowl but my 4 year old rolled a 46 without the gutter guard at the same lanes a few weeks ago during a birthday party to show you how bad that is.
Obama's made a joke out of it but quite a few people in this bowling heavy area think he's making a joke out of them. Trying to show people you're everyman only works when you are.
It's ok...It was probably in the yard of CajunCowboy's old house. :D
iceberg
04-01-2008, 03:39 PM
she was using bowling analogies today - she won't quit till the 10th frame.
even though she's in the 7th frame and even if she strikes out (and she's not going to do that) she can't win any longer, she's still in it.
kill the party hillary. kill it dead. you're so much better than the party!
ZeroClub
04-01-2008, 03:50 PM
If she were to lose Pennsylvania would she hang it up finally?
If she lost (which she probably won't), there'd be tremendous pressure for her to quit. She'd be belittled for continuing. Under that kind of pressure and likely ridicule, she'd eventually decide that her longterm interests are best served by ending (or "suspending") her campaign.
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