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mr.jameswoods
10-29-2004, 03:18 PM
I have always embraced the high expectations placed on this team by the players themselves and their fans. However, I'm realizing this mentality doesn't improve the team. In fact, I think this mentality actually hurts our team. In MLB, you can buy a team full of All-Stars because there is no salary cap. The richest team can purchase the best players. George Steinbrenner still makes a lot of money despite fielding an expensive roser. Therefore, Yankee fans and their owner can have ridiculous expectations each year and it fuels their team. If they fall short one year, they will just go out and improve the team the following year by going shopping. I'm not a Yankee fan but I can see why Yankee fans place such pressure on their team. In a way, they can improve their team by complaining and expecting the best much like customers of any business like McDonalds, Southwest Airlines etc.

However, in the NFL, this mentality doesn't work. We are bound by a salary cap. So regardless of how much fans like myself whine and complain, it really can't improve the team. Jerry Jones can't just buy a Peyton Manning and a LaDainlian Tomlinson like Steinbrenner can bring in A-Rod and Sheffield in one year. I'm sure Jerry would love to outbid for a Hall of Famer each year but he is sort of handcuffed in this department. In baseball, if you need a Hall of Fame starting pitcher, you can get one if you are willing to pay enough money. In the NFL, it doesn't work that way so Jerry Jones cannot instantly satisfy his and our craving for winning instantly. He tried his best by signing Parcells but a coach is only a part of the formula albeit a major part of it.

My point is I think the players have an additional challenge they are faced with that other teams don't have to deal with and that is the additional pressure and ridiculously high expectations of winning now as a Cowboy. I really feel sorry for the players and the coaches because they are asked to do with impossible without being given enough time and leeway by fans like myself and the owner to succeed now.

I don't know if there is a solution to this problem. If there was one, I think the first thing Jerry could do is openly state the rebuilding process will take time and by showing unending support for their head coach. This idea struck me because there are a lot of teams like the Cowboys and I wonder if we are stunting our growth because we place extremely high expecations upon the team each year. Maybe this is one reason we go for the quick fix each year.

What's your take? You think the pressure is good or bad? Do you think it challenges the team to excellence or puts crippling pressure on the team?

Everlastingxxx
10-29-2004, 03:26 PM
What's your take? You think the pressure is good or bad? Do you think it challenges the team to excellence or puts crippling pressure on the team?

Winning organizations bring high expectations. With the Cowboys, its not a matter of 'if' but 'when'. This same pressure you talk about brought 3 Super Bowls in the 90's and will bring a 6th in due time.

mr.jameswoods
10-29-2004, 03:30 PM
Winning organizations bring high expectations. With the Cowboys, its not a matter of 'if' but 'when'. This same pressure you talk about brought 3 Super Bowls in the 90's and will bring a 6th in due time.

I'm confident we will win a 6th within the next 10 years. I don't predict a Boston Redsox type of drought. I do think we had advantages in the 90's that we don't have now. That's why I'm not so sure that high expectations really helps the team any longer. Thus far, it seems like it has hurt us. I don't know the answers. It's just another idea I was considering.

later

Everlastingxxx
10-29-2004, 03:44 PM
I'm confident we will win a 6th within the next 10 years. I don't predict a Boston Redsox type of drought. I do think we had advantages in the 90's that we don't have now. That's why I'm not so sure that high expectations really helps the team any longer. Thus far, it seems like it has hurt us. I don't know the answers. It's just another idea I was considering.

later

I really dont think its all that complex. I think injuries have flat out hurt us this season/offseason more than anything.

GTaylor
10-29-2004, 03:58 PM
One thing the Yanks should teach us, they won their recent championships with home-grown players and a "modest" payroll, it's only recently ballooned to ridiculous status

mr.jameswoods
10-29-2004, 04:00 PM
One thing the Yanks should teach us, they won their recent championships with home-grown players and a "modest" payroll, it's only recently ballooned to ridiculous status

That is true but you have to remember that they are always in the penet race each year. Imagine if we made it to the NFC championship game at the very least each year. Wait, we would be the Eagles...nevermind I take that back. :p

Hostile
10-29-2004, 04:08 PM
I have always embraced the high expectations placed on this team by the players themselves and their fans. However, I'm realizing this mentality doesn't improve the team. In fact, I think this mentality actually hurts our team. In MLB, you can buy a team full of All-Stars because there is no salary cap. The richest team can purchase the best players. George Steinbrenner still makes a lot of money despite fielding an expensive roser. Therefore, Yankee fans and their owner can have ridiculous expectations each year and it fuels their team. If they fall short one year, they will just go out and improve the team the following year by going shopping. I'm not a Yankee fan but I can see why Yankee fans place such pressure on their team. In a way, they can improve their team by complaining and expecting the best much like customers of any business like McDonalds, Southwest Airlines etc.

However, in the NFL, this mentality doesn't work. We are bound by a salary cap. So regardless of how much fans like myself whine and complain, it really can't improve the team. Jerry Jones can't just buy a Peyton Manning and a LaDainlian Tomlinson like Steinbrenner can bring in A-Rod and Sheffield in one year. I'm sure Jerry would love to outbid for a Hall of Famer each year but he is sort of handcuffed in this department. In baseball, if you need a Hall of Fame starting pitcher, you can get one if you are willing to pay enough money. In the NFL, it doesn't work that way so Jerry Jones cannot instantly satisfy his and our craving for winning instantly. He tried his best by signing Parcells but a coach is only a part of the formula albeit a major part of it.

My point is I think the players have an additional challenge they are faced with that other teams don't have to deal with and that is the additional pressure and ridiculously high expectations of winning now as a Cowboy. I really feel sorry for the players and the coaches because they are asked to do with impossible without being given enough time and leeway by fans like myself and the owner to succeed now.

I don't know if there is a solution to this problem. If there was one, I think the first thing Jerry could do is openly state the rebuilding process will take time and by showing unending support for their head coach. This idea struck me because there are a lot of teams like the Cowboys and I wonder if we are stunting our growth because we place extremely high expecations upon the team each year. Maybe this is one reason we go for the quick fix each year.

What's your take? You think the pressure is good or bad? Do you think it challenges the team to excellence or puts crippling pressure on the team?
I think it works both ways. Take the Arizona Cardinals or the Cincinnati Bengals for instance. They can show a lot of promise but when they lose immediately they are the Cardiac Cards and Bungles all over again.

Maybe some organizations are blessed and others jinxed. I enjoy thinking that the Eagle smight be jinxed and us blessed. Makes me enjoy Sundays even more while they are clearly the better squad.

I think atmosphere is very much a part and parcel of the game.

Pressure is always good. Whether the players feel it from the coaches, owner, media, or fans, or all of them put together, it is good. I don't ever want to see the time when this team is the lovable losers.

I'd just hate that.

Everlastingxxx
10-29-2004, 04:09 PM
hoedown

Haha, is that Ashley Simpsons humilation dance?