Check out this MOCK DRAFT

[Fletch]

You guys will love this ... http://nfldraftblitz.com/mock_draft.htm :)

[shnagy]

Is Aaron Rodgers really that good? Also, i like the first pick, but i think we need to fill some other position, like DL with one of our picks, instead of getting another RB.

[blindzebra]

One of the worst mocks I've ever seen.

[jimmy40]

You guys will love this ... http://nfldraftblitz.com/mock_draft.htm :)If the Cowboys pass on Mike Williams there will be fans taking headers off tall buildings.

[jimmy40]

One of the worst mocks I've ever seen.Does anyone else see the irony in this?

[Fletch]

Does anyone else see the irony in this?

To get Derrick Johnson and then take Cadillac Williams would be awesome. That Cadillac pick looks like a "BPA" pick and would not hurt my feelings at all. The Derrick Johnson pick would be out of necessity.

[blindzebra]

Does anyone else see the irony in this?

You've been around enough forums to know the origin of my username. :D

[Nors]

To get Derrick Johnson and then take Cadillac Williams would be awesome. That Cadillac pick looks like a "BPA" pick and would not hurt my feelings at all. The Derrick Johnson pick would be out of necessity.



If we have to go RB again in 1 after JJones, that trade is going South fast........

[Fletch]

The more I think about it, the more I am beginning to covet Derrick Johnson. We'll see how it goes.

[Fletch]

If we have to go RB again in 1 after JJones, that trade is going South fast........

Nah! It never hurts to have a stable of RB's. Just ask Denver.

[Roughneck]

Nah! It never hurts to have a stable of RB's. Just ask Denver.Dude, I could be Denver's RB and still break 1000 yards.

[Nors]

Nah! It never hurts to have a stable of RB's. Just ask Denver.

That was a good one.


Maybe its better to have a stable of competent Oline and a good scheme. Whoever Denver plugs in is a stud!!!!!!!!!!!

We keep dissing Dallas RB's, year after year after year now. Two lost souls in a fish bowl?

[Bobo]

You've been around enough forums to know the origin of my username. :D

Were you a ref in the Giants game? :confused: :p

Damn it'd be nice if JJ comes back and looks stellar. I like Caddy and all, but there's more important holes to fill if JJ is the real deal.

[Erik_H]

That was a good one.


Maybe its better to have a stable of competent Oline and a good scheme. Whoever Denver plugs in is a stud!!!!!!!!!!!

We keep dissing Dallas RB's, year after year after year now. Two lost souls in a fish bowl?

Guess we'd be running over the same old ground.

[Rack Bauer]

One of the worst mocks I've ever seen.



I like the DJ pick. We don't necessarily "Need" an OLB, but we didn't "Need" a safety when we took Roy either. My only complaint is that Zimmer would turn DJ's great playmaking ability into averageness.


Normally I'd LOVE the Cadillac Williams pick, but I'd like to see what we have in JJ first. Even if our first round did go down like that I'd be happy. The DJ pick would make me very happy, and I'd be happy and concerned about the Cadillac pick so overall, happy.

[DallasKnight]

I like the guy, but we need help on the Dline more than we need that type of linebacker. We need a Stud DE, or DT. If we got the LB at with that pick, ok, but then with Our pick, we need to address the line, not go after another RB. I do like the CB in the second round though. He's the type that can be plugged in right away and not have too many rookie mistakes.

I would prefer Mike Williams with the first pick though.

[TheHustler]

Maybe its better to have a stable of competent Oline and a good scheme.

Their Oline is the dirtiest in the league. They cut block everyone and have already injured several d linemen. We do not need to block like that.

[Hostile]

If the Cowboys pass on Mike Williams there will be fans taking headers off tall buildings.
Yeah I was looking at the bank of America Building down the street as I read this. :D

[Nors]

Their Oline is the dirtiest in the league. They cut block everyone and have already injured several d linemen. We do not need to block like that.

What they do is LEGAL. They have dominated running the ball for what 8 years now with what 8 differant backs?

Maybe Our Oline sucks more than the last 8 Cowboy backs that are deemed as suckage :rolleyes:

[Nors]

Yeah I was looking at the bank of America Building down the street as I read this. :D

In Boston to jump off of.



What is the best and highest place for Dallas fans to congregate and jump?

[Fletch]

The ideal draft for the first round in my humble opinion would be:

Mike Edwards or Braylon Edwards
Antaaj Hawthorne or Antrelle Rolle

[Hostile]

3 Texas Longhorns in the top 5?

That would have to be an all time run.

[Tobal]

3 in the top 5 and 4 in the top 20. Damn if that happens they really should fire Mack Brown.

[jterrell]

One of the worst mocks I've ever seen.
What exactly is the problem with this mock?

I am not a big fan of our actual picks but the team does have those needs and the players are ranked about right.

[Hostile]

What exactly is the problem with this mock?

I am not a big fan of our actual picks but the team does have those needs and the players are ranked about right.
Taking anyone else when Mike Williams is there. I don't like that.

Taking a RB in the 1st when we took Jones last year. That basically means we wasted the Buffalo trade and should have taken Steven Jackson instead of adding the #1 this year.

I'd much rather have Mathis Kiwanuka.

I do like the choice of Walker in the 2nd.

[blindzebra]

What exactly is the problem with this mock?

I am not a big fan of our actual picks but the team does have those needs and the players are ranked about right.

LB and RB are about 5th and 6th on our need list at this point and time. DT, DE, CB, FS, and WR are all much more pressing needs.

We have not seen Jones, Lee is not getting any carries for reasons only known to Tuna, and unless DJ is the second coming of LT that spot versus our needs don't mesh.

[Hailmary]

If we do end up taking a RB, my vote goes to Frank Gore of Miami in the second (or third, his injury history may push him down that far).

I'd rather not take a RB at all and concentrate more on WR and CB.

[ghst187]

I think the mock is a bit off of the draft order...its really looking more and more to me like the Bills pick will be in the top 4 if not 3. I don't think the Bungals will draft that high, nor the Cardinals, nor the Chiefs. The Cards aren't that bad this year. Their defense looks 10x better than ours. Right now, it looks like the Bills and the Dolphins will play in Miami with the loser getting the top draft pick (and I'd put money on the fins to win that game). Those are the only two teams that seem like they are going to have a heck of a time finding another win. Chicago, San Fran, and Tampa Bay falling in behind with 4 or 5 wins a piece.
I also tend to think that our own draft pick will be in the top 10 or 12.
You can rest assured that the Chiefs will go hard after a WR like M Williams and the Bungals will go hard after a CB like Rolle or Jackson. They will be a threat or a trade suitor to trade up and get those guys.
Where is Matt Leinert on the board? They must be convinced that he won't leave early but I would imagine that he does. If he does, then he's a lock for one of the top 6 picks.
If we draft Cadillac with one of our picks then we have to admit last years draft was a complete and utter failure that cost us time to develop a RB.
If we pass on M Williams or Rolle then we're idiots. If they are both gone, I will happily take Derrick Johnson/Rod Wright and Marlin Jackson. I have a feeling though that we will be in position to nab at least one of them if not both.

[crazylegs]

RB Carnell "Cadillac" Williams Height: 5'11" Weight: 204lbs

JJ please explain to us how you transitioned so well into the NFL as a light weight RB!

"dnhnj erkf joprvgj shoulder ergjgdfvdo hurts egjedilge g head sgiodg not evgndlv working"

Thank you.

And with the 15th pick the Cowboys choose – RB Carnell "Cadillac Seville" Williams ?

Let's see if any of you get that one. :rolleyes:

[Rack Bauer]

Taking anyone else when Mike Williams is there. I don't like that.




Mike Williams will be AT BEST a late first round pick next year. Mark my words.


LB and RB are about 5th and 6th on our need list at this point and time


You don't draft for need, especially with two EARLY picks. If we only drafted for need, Roy Williams wouldn't be a cowboy.

[ghst187]

Mike Williams will be AT BEST a late first round pick next year. Mark my words.

You don't draft for need, especially with two EARLY picks. If we only drafted for need, Roy Williams wouldn't be a cowboy.

I will mark your words, if you mark mine, he'll go in the top 15 and maybe the top 5. McGahee had a horrific knee injury and had to sit out for a year but still managed to go pretty highly. Williams hasn't had any major injuries and sitting out a year as a WR isn't that big a deal. We traded a 3rd rounder for a QB that hadn't played football in 3 years. One full offseason and a few games and Williams would be back up to speed. The thing is you can't coach height like his and you can't coach athleticism like his and you can't coach a guy to make circus catches with one hand in heavy coverage/traffic. Some team may make the mistake of taking Braylon Edwards over Williams but they will regret it.

[lkelly]

I will mark your words, if you mark mine, he'll go in the top 15 and maybe the top 5. McGahee had a horrific knee injury and had to sit out for a year but still managed to go pretty highly. Williams hasn't had any major injuries and sitting out a year as a WR isn't that big a deal. We traded a 3rd rounder for a QB that hadn't played football in 3 years. One full offseason and a few games and Williams would be back up to speed. The thing is you can't coach height like his and you can't coach athleticism like his and you can't coach a guy to make circus catches with one hand in heavy coverage/traffic. Some team may make the mistake of taking Braylon Edwards over Williams but they will regret it.

Just wondering if anyone can come up with another example of a player who was drafted in the top 10 after not playing for 16 months. And remember, this is the salary cap era where you are taking a big risk by picking in the top 10. If the guy's a failure, it really hurts your cap for a few years. It will be interesting to see if GMs have the guts to draft a guy with so many unknowns because of the layoff. Because he won't be in any all-star games, the guy won't have taken a hit since early January 2004. Why is sitting out a year not a big deal for a WR? Isn't WR one of the hardest positions to play when you are trying to transition intot he NFL?

Because the Bills made a stupid decision to draft McGahee in the 1st round doesn't mean other teams will be carefree at the top of the 2005 draft. The Raiders drafted a kicker in the first round a few years back and I haven't seen anyone else make that boneheaded move.

I think Mike Williams can certainly be a bigger version of Keyshawn or Chris Carter. He doesn't have the speed to stretch a D. I'm just curious if GMs will be willing to roll the dice on a question mark in the top 10.

[SkinsandTerps]

As I have said before, I am not a big fan of drafting WRs in the top 5. Williams after over a year off would be a stretch for any team to take even the Chiefs. But as they are lacking in that department sorely, I could see it happening.

I love Mike Williams but I have a hard time believing at this point he will be a top 5 pick. Top 10 maybe but most likely top 20.

[Hailmary]

The thing w/ the Mike Williams situation is that his agent (if he's smart) will have him spend this entire year off making him prepare for nothing but the combine drills, translating into very good combine numbers and resulting in a high selection. Anyone who follows the draft knows how some GMs sometimes over rely on these numbers. I don't know if this will translate into a top 5 selection, but probably a top ten.

[blindzebra]

Mike Williams will be AT BEST a late first round pick next year. Mark my words.





You don't draft for need, especially with two EARLY picks. If we only drafted for need, Roy Williams wouldn't be a cowboy.

You don't draft a position you don't need either, the cap won't allow it. Reguardless of the best player you still need to factor need into your pick. If you are picking #5 and your board has a QB, OT, and WR as the next 3 players you don't automatically take the QB. You look to trade down to where your need based player should go, like we did with Roy Williams.

You think SD will draft a first rd QB this year, if that is BAP, when they are on the clock? Well we won't either. If the player(s) at our picks are not a starter at a position we need, they won't be drafted.

[Hostile]

Mike Williams will be AT BEST a late first round pick next year. Mark my words.





You don't draft for need, especially with two EARLY picks. If we only drafted for need, Roy Williams wouldn't be a cowboy.
Sorry Rack, but I never take anyone's word for it. Last year when I was talking about trading up for Phillip Rivers people were telling me he would be available at 22, "take my word for it."

How about this one..."Stephen Jackson will be long gone by 22, take my word for it."

Things happen on draft day that sort of trump people's word.

Mike Williams is available, I take him. Best player in this draft. By that I mean will make the biggest impact in the NFL.

[Hostile]

Just wondering if anyone can come up with another example of a player who was drafted in the top 10 after not playing for 16 months. And remember, this is the salary cap era where you are taking a big risk by picking in the top 10. If the guy's a failure, it really hurts your cap for a few years. It will be interesting to see if GMs have the guts to draft a guy with so many unknowns because of the layoff. Because he won't be in any all-star games, the guy won't have taken a hit since early January 2004. Why is sitting out a year not a big deal for a WR? Isn't WR one of the hardest positions to play when you are trying to transition intot he NFL?

Because the Bills made a stupid decision to draft McGahee in the 1st round doesn't mean other teams will be carefree at the top of the 2005 draft. The Raiders drafted a kicker in the first round a few years back and I haven't seen anyone else make that boneheaded move.

I think Mike Williams can certainly be a bigger version of Keyshawn or Chris Carter. He doesn't have the speed to stretch a D. I'm just curious if GMs will be willing to roll the dice on a question mark in the top 10.
Michael Irvin was not a speed demon either. Would you like to have another Michael Irvin? Even if he isn't fast enough to stretch a defense.

Irvin played fast enough, so does Mike Williams. His best asset is his hands. He has amazing hands. Did you see his one handed in full stride grab last year? Just stuck his hand back behind him and the ball stuck right to it as he crossed the goal line. Maybe 3 or 4 people in the whole country could make that catch. None of them are available or young enough to build upon.

Williams is also very big and physical. No DB in the league is going to push him around. He's hard to tackle as well because of that size.

He plays fearless and runs great routes. You can have your Randall Williams speed deomns who can stretch the defense. I want a guy who can move the chains and put 6 on the scoreboard. Mike Williams does that as good or better than anyone in the country.

[crazylegs]

Michael Irvin was not a speed demon either. Would you like to have another Michael Irvin? Even if he isn't fast enough to stretch a defense.

Irvin played fast enough, so does Mike Williams. His best asset is his hands. He has amazing hands. Did you see his one handed in full stride grab last year? Just stuck his hand back behind him and the ball stuck right to it as he crossed the goal line. Maybe 3 or 4 people in the whole country could make that catch. None of them are available or young enough to build upon.

Williams is also very big and physical. No DB in the league is going to push him around. He's hard to tackle as well because of that size.

He plays fearless and runs great routes. You can have your Randall Williams speed deomns who can stretch the defense. I want a guy who can move the chains and put 6 on the scoreboard. Mike Williams does that as good or better than anyone in the country.

, all of your examples in this post are 1 in a million.

Why do you base these drafting abnormalities into a planed 2005 drafting event? For every physically similar MI in the draft only a few pan out, the others are out of the NFL. I don't need to tell you this.

[Hostile]

, all of your examples in this post are 1 in a million.

Why do you base these drafting abnormalities into a planed 2005 drafting event? For every physically similar MI in the draft only a few pan out, the others are out of the NFL. I don't need to tell you this.
No you don't because it would just bore me right to sleep.

Anquan Boldin fell in the draft because he wasn't fast. Jerry Rice. You want me to keep going?

Speed at WR is highly over rated. Hands NEVER are. Book it.

[ssummers65]

Aaron Rodgers is unreal. Y'all should watch him tonight, TBS at 9:30. Cal might be the best team in the nation. Special teams cost them the game against USC that they otherwise dominated.

[BUSDRIV3RDH]

15th? Try more like 5-8th.

I wouldn't mind Derrick Johnson with our 2nd pick. I am very convinced we'll be in the position to do this too. No way our pick is #15, just no way.

If we pass on Williams I believe we'll live to regret it like the Moss/Ellis draft.

1a. Mike Williams {Even if it means us having to trade up a spot or two...no cost too high}
1b. Derrick Johnson or Andre Rolle

However if somehow one of 2 picks ends up being #1 overall, I would have to seriously consider taking a look at the top quarterbacks availble.

[MichaelWinicki]

One of the worst mocks I've ever seen.


Yep.

I hate it too.

[Fletch]

Sorry Rack, but I never take anyone's word for it. Last year when I was talking about trading up for Phillip Rivers people were telling me he would be available at 22, "take my word for it."

How about this one..."Stephen Jackson will be long gone by 22, take my word for it."

Things happen on draft day that sort of trump people's word.

Mike Williams is available, I take him. Best player in this draft. By that I mean will make the biggest impact in the NFL.

Very much agreed Hostile. Mike Williams will be an immediate impact for some lucky team. Just hope it is the Dallas Cowboys. :cool:

[Rack Bauer]

I will mark your words, if you mark mine, he'll go in the top 15 and maybe the top 5. McGahee had a horrific knee injury and had to sit out for a year but still managed to go pretty highly. Williams hasn't had any major injuries and sitting out a year as a WR isn't that big a deal. We traded a 3rd rounder for a QB that hadn't played football in 3 years. One full offseason and a few games and Williams would be back up to speed. The thing is you can't coach height like his and you can't coach athleticism like his and you can't coach a guy to make circus catches with one hand in heavy coverage/traffic. Some team may make the mistake of taking Braylon Edwards over Williams but they will regret it.



Mike wasn't even gonna be a top 5 pick THIS YEAR. No way is he a top 5 pick NEXT year. I'm not saying he's not great. I preferred him over Roy (Still do). I'm only going by what I believe NFL teams will go by. He's out for a full year, isn't fast (NFL teams put way too much stock in speed), and he's supposedly had a tendency to gain weight.

I'd love for us to draft Derrick Johnson and MWIll, I just think Mike is gonna drop big time.

[Rack Bauer]

You think SD will draft a first rd QB this year, if that is BAP, when they are on the clock? Well we won't either. If the player(s) at our picks are not a starter at a position we need, they won't be drafted.


QBs are rarely the actualy best "Player" in the draft. They get boosted up draft boards just cuz their QBs. Seriously, who is a better "Player", Eli Manning or Roy Williams?



Sorry Rack, but I never take anyone's word for it. Last year when I was talking about trading up for Phillip Rivers people were telling me he would be available at 22, "take my word for it."


I thought, and still do think, Rivers is the best QB in this draft class. Worth a top 5 pick as a PLAYER? No. But, like I said above, QBs get boosted up draft boards just coz of the position they play.

I still wish we had taken Leftwich two years ago.

[Hostile]

Mike wasn't even gonna be a top 5 pick THIS YEAR. No way is he a top 5 pick NEXT year. I'm not saying he's not great. I preferred him over Roy (Still do). I'm only going by what I believe NFL teams will go by. He's out for a full year, isn't fast (NFL teams put way too much stock in speed), and he's supposedly had a tendency to gain weight.

I'd love for us to draft Derrick Johnson and MWIll, I just think Mike is gonna drop big time.
If he does and we get him with our 2nd pick I will love it. If he falls to the 2nd round and we get him I will love it more.

Just get him.

[Hostile]

QBs are rarely the actualy best "Player" in the draft. They get boosted up draft boards just cuz their QBs. Seriously, who is a better "Player", Eli Manning or Roy Williams?






I thought, and still do think, Rivers is the best QB in this draft class. Worth a top 5 pick as a PLAYER? No. But, like I said above, QBs get boosted up draft boards just coz of the position they play.

I still wish we had taken Leftwich two years ago.
I still wish we had taken Suggs. Doesn't matter now. I hope you undestand why I say I take no one's word for it. It simply has to happen. No way was Jackson falling to 22. Someone forgot to tell the 23 teams that passed on him.

[MichaelWinicki]

I still wish we had taken Suggs. Doesn't matter now. I hope you undestand why I say I tak eno one's word for it. It simply has to happen. No way was jackson falling to 22. Someone forgot to tell the 23 teams that passed on him.


You're sounding like SBK now!

[Hostile]

You're sounding like SBK now!
Wrong, I was the original Suggs fan. I was touting him long before he declared for the draft. I have wanted Dallas to take him ever since he played Arizona as a Freshmen. I hate ASU football but I saw him play live 7 times, only 3 were agaisnt the Wildcats since he declared as a Junior. That means I bought 4 Scum Devils tickets just to watch him play. I saw at least 20 other games that he played in. I even rode my cycle up to Tempe for his 2nd Pro Day workout. Far cry from reading the reports about him and procaliming man love.

[jterrell]

LB and RB are about 5th and 6th on our need list at this point and time. DT, DE, CB, FS, and WR are all much more pressing needs.

We have not seen Jones, Lee is not getting any carries for reasons only known to Tuna, and unless DJ is the second coming of LT that spot versus our needs don't mesh.
I don't buy that.

How many plays have our LBs made this entire season? Do we even bring back coackley or Singleton? Don't we want to run some 3-4 sets?

If a RB is the highest rated player on the board why not choose him? I dont think we will but we should consider it. Julius Jones was a mid second round type not a stud. Willaims and DJ are excellent players and we need excellent players. Maybe Jones offers soem great hope in the last few eeks but if not we will have a shot at a top 10 overall type back. Soemthing that hasnt been on the board in 3 years.

Many thought it stupid to draft a safety so high a couple of years back.

And dont forget we didnt take Leftwich because we had young QBs????

Avoid the nonsense and take the players you rate to be truly stellar.

[jterrell]

I still wish we had taken Suggs. Doesn't matter now. I hope you undestand why I say I tak eno one's word for it. It simply has to happen. No way was jackson falling to 22. Someone forgot to tell the 23 teams that passed on him.
Those were the 2 players I liked best at our spot and both fell. I wish we had traded down and taken one of them. TNew's age was a concern for me. All that said, last year he looked awesome. Its just this crappy season....

[Chuck 54]

Mike Williams will be the first WR taken in this coming draft....I've seen B. Edwards of Michigan on TV a few times this year, and he's a good one, but he's not in Mike Williams' category.

Williams will go high despite not playing this year for one simple reason...there's never been a WR like him in college or the NFL. Name the last WR with his height, weight, running ability YAC, velcro hands, athletic ability to twist and adjust his body, blocking, and blocking ability...heck, he's like having another H-back out there.

And while he doesn't put up the exceptional or even above average 40 time, due to his long stride, I've never seen his caught from behind by a DB when he is running away....surely some NFL DB's will run him down...they even ran Dorsett down a few times.

Bottom line is that this kid is a FREAK at the WR position...we see what Keyshaun can do...this kid is bigger, stronger, faster, more athletic, and known for being an extremely hard worker....that's why he'll be the first WR off the board...you kind find great WR's in every draft, but this kid is one of a kind, and he owns all of the records at Keyshaun's USC in only 2 years of play with 2 different QB's.

[Hostile]

Those were the 2 players I liked best at our spot and both fell. I wish we had traded down and taken one of them. TNew's age was a concern for me. All that said, last year he looked awesome. Its just this crappy season....
I agree. Suggs being only 20 to Newman's 25 was another huge reason why I would have taken the DE. My draft wishes were

1. Suggs
2. Leftwich
3. Newman

[Hostile]

Mike Williams will be the first WR taken in this coming draft....I've seen B. Edwards of Michigan on TV a few times this year, and he's a good one, but he's not in Mike Williams' category.

Williams will go high despite not playing this year for one simple reason...there's never been a WR like him in college or the NFL. Name the last WR with his height, weight, running ability YAC, velcro hands, athletic ability to twist and adjust his body, blocking, and blocking ability...heck, he's like having another H-back out there.

And while he doesn't put up the exceptional or even above average 40 time, due to his long stride, I've never seen his caught from behind by a DB when he is running away....surely some NFL DB's will run him down...they even ran Dorsett down a few times.

Bottom line is that this kid is a FREAK at the WR position...we see what Keyshaun can do...this kid is bigger, stronger, faster, more athletic, and known for being an extremely hard worker....that's why he'll be the first WR off the board...you kind find great WR's in every draft, but this kid is one of a kind, and he owns all of the records at Keyshaun's USC in only 2 years of play with 2 different QB's.
Great post, totally agree.

[MichaelWinicki]

Far cry from reading the reports about him and procaliming man love.


LOL!

:D

[MichaelWinicki]

Great post, totally agree.


With Glenn being lost for the season and given the age of both Key and Glenn, I'm starting to lean your way... I mean as far as Williams goes... not the other "lean your way". :D

So don't get any ideas. ;)

[Hostile]

With Glenn being lost for the season and given the age of both Key and Glenn, I'm starting to lean your way... I mean as far as Williams goes... not the other "lean your way". :D

So don't get any ideas. ;)
Then stop putting them in my head. :D

[Bizwah]

I like the idea of adding Mike Williams now more than I did a couple of weeks ago.

We had a trio of good receivers: Keyshawn, Glenn, and Bryant. All three are good WRs, but there really wasn't a burner among them. I thought adding another WR like Williams would just double up on our tough/possession type.

But the addition of Morgan changes my views. He can come in any time and stretch the defense, opening up defenses for Williams and Key.

Imagine third and goal from the six........We line up Keyshawn at one WR position, Mike Williams at the other, and Witten lines up at TE.

How tough would it be for defenses to defend three receivers 6-4 and over?

Especially the Philly CBs.....their starters are both 5-10.

Also, if we decide to go with Henson at QB, he'll need all the help he can get. He'll have a good OL (this has improved a great deal this year) and a fine WR corps. This can only help. I believe the combo of a stout OL, a solid running game, and a good WR trio is what's making Ben Rothlisberger successful.

[SkinsandTerps]

I believe the combo of a stout OL, a solid running game, and a good WR trio is what's making Ben Rothlisberger successful.

And the threat of a running game. At this point the Cowboys dont have that. If Parcells would stop being so stubborn about Lee. That may be a different story.

[Hostile]

And the threat of a running game. At this point the Cowboys dont have that. If Parcells would stop being so stubborn about Lee. That may be a different story.
Dang, a Skins fan agrees with most of us about Lee. I guess it's not just the color of the glasses.

[jterrell]

Mike Williams is not polished enough to warrant a top 5 selection. I wouldn't choose him top 10. Keary Colbert was the better college WR last year and he now he has a year off to go with being raw. I think he will have a similar career to Javon walker, i.e. big impact after a couple of frustrating years early. Thats applies to most young NFL WRs but it wont to Braylon Edwards who is very Roy Willaims-esque. It pays to perform on the field and at the combine.

The Chiefs wont pick before 15. They are not a bad team theu just started out slowly. I wouldn't be suprised to see them make the playoffs. There are far too mnay folks making instant prognostications based on 4 or 5 weeks of football. Anyone who saw KC last week wouldn't expect to draft early.

I think it is pretty clear at this point Braylon is the 1st Wr off the board. So it comes down to Chris Henry and Mike Williams for #2. I'm not sure there yet honestly. I'd need to see a lot of film of Mike Williams on plays he didn't get thrown to(to see his route-running and blocking) and a few more games of Chris Henry before I wanted to make that decision. In either case I think the higher ranked goes bottom of the top 10 and the other about 15.

[jterrell]

I will mark your words, if you mark mine, he'll go in the top 15 and maybe the top 5. McGahee had a horrific knee injury and had to sit out for a year but still managed to go pretty highly. Williams hasn't had any major injuries and sitting out a year as a WR isn't that big a deal. We traded a 3rd rounder for a QB that hadn't played football in 3 years. One full offseason and a few games and Williams would be back up to speed. The thing is you can't coach height like his and you can't coach athleticism like his and you can't coach a guy to make circus catches with one hand in heavy coverage/traffic. Some team may make the mistake of taking Braylon Edwards over Williams but they will regret it.
I can't and I don't think anyone can.

McGahee's agent conned Buffalo and we see how good Buffalo has been in those 2 years. Buff clearly should ahve traded down if they wer ein love with McGahee but the agent had them thinking other teams were about to snatch him up and that docters were saying he could play as a rookie.

McGahee also has a superb year of Heisman type football under his belt. MW doesnt. He wasn't Matt Lienart's favorite WR and he wasn't Carson Palmer's. I am not sure if he equates more to Paxxico Burress or Larry Fitzgerlad but I lean more to Burress because he isn't as polished as Fitzgerald was in college though ayear away could make him a better Wr if he uses it properly. He is a bit of a wildcard that will ultimately be a bit of a gamble.

[Hostile]

Mike Williams is not polished enough to warrant a top 5 selection. I wouldn't choose him top 10. Keary Colbert was the better college WR last year and he now he has a year off to go with being raw. I think he will have a similar career to Javon walker, i.e. big impact after a couple of frustrating years early. Thats applies to most young NFL WRs but it wont to Braylon Edwards who is very Roy Willaims-esque. It pays to perform on the field and at the combine.

The Chiefs wont pick before 15. They are not a bad team theu just started out slowly. I wouldn't be suprised to see them make the playoffs. There are far too mnay folks making instant prognostications based on 4 or 5 weeks of football. Anyone who saw KC last week wouldn't expect to draft early.

I think it is pretty clear at this point Braylon is the 1st Wr off the board. So it comes down to Chris Henry and Mike Williams for #2. I'm not sure there yet honestly. I'd need to see a lot of film of Mike Williams on plays he didn't get thrown to(to see his route-running and blocking) and a few more games of Chris Henry before I wanted to make that decision. In either case I think the higher ranked goes bottom of the top 10 and the other about 15.
Wow. Not even sure what to say about that post. Sounds very much like East Coast bias against the teams that play later in the evening when it's bedtime. The part that is really mind boggling is the Keary Colbert is better claim. I guaratee you there isn't an NFL coach or scout anywhere who agrees with that. Must be personal tastes to elevate Edwards. Can't even imagine another logical reason.

[Chuck 54]

Mike Williams is not polished enough to warrant a top 5 selection. I wouldn't choose him top 10. Keary Colbert was the better college WR last year and he now he has a year off to go with being raw. I think he will have a similar career to Javon walker, i.e. big impact after a couple of frustrating years early. Thats applies to most young NFL WRs but it wont to Braylon Edwards who is very Roy Willaims-esque. It pays to perform on the field and at the combine.

The Chiefs wont pick before 15. They are not a bad team theu just started out slowly. I wouldn't be suprised to see them make the playoffs. There are far too mnay folks making instant prognostications based on 4 or 5 weeks of football. Anyone who saw KC last week wouldn't expect to draft early.

I think it is pretty clear at this point Braylon is the 1st Wr off the board. So it comes down to Chris Henry and Mike Williams for #2. I'm not sure there yet honestly. I'd need to see a lot of film of Mike Williams on plays he didn't get thrown to(to see his route-running and blocking) and a few more games of Chris Henry before I wanted to make that decision. In either case I think the higher ranked goes bottom of the top 10 and the other about 15.
I don't buy that at all...frankly, your idea that he was "not polished" is absurd....you don't own every record in the league and threaten the other WR's in a draft when your a sophomore if you are "unpolished"....I think it's a close call if you favor Braylon...it's an opinion, and I respect yours, but to call Williams "unpolished" is silly.

I actually hope you're wrong because if Williams drops, he'll drop right into our laps...we can spend our first pick on Rodrique Wright (DT) and still get Mike Williams for our offense....I'd love for other NFL teams to rank 1-2 WR's over Williams...I just don't think it will happen.

[Tio]

I can't believe that post either hos. Colbert and Edwards over Williams!?!

[Lord Sun]

I'd much rather have Mathis Kiwanuka.

Agreed. Sound pick. And I like Rolle with our third overall choice. Wide reciever in the second, where Williams might well drop.

[The30YardSlant]

Braylon Edwards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Williams

Get Braylon Edwards, that simple