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Jordan55
04-11-2008, 09:15 AM
If you like this article visit his web site, it's good reading along with great photo's of our troops. God Bless Them!


Let's 'Surge' Some More
By MICHAEL YON
April 11, 2008

It is said that generals always fight the last war. But when David Petraeus came to town it was senators – on both sides of the aisle – who battled over the Iraq war of 2004-2006. That war has little in common with the war we are fighting today.

I may well have spent more time embedded with combat units in Iraq than any other journalist alive. I have seen this war – and our part in it – at its brutal worst. And I say the transformation over the last 14 months is little short of miraculous.

The change goes far beyond the statistical decline in casualties or incidents of violence. A young Iraqi translator, wounded in battle and fearing death, asked an American commander to bury his heart in America. Iraqi special forces units took to the streets to track down terrorists who killed American soldiers. The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq, and many Iraqi boys dream of becoming American soldiers. Yes, young Iraqi boys know about "GoArmy.com."

As the outrages of Abu Ghraib faded in memory – and paled in comparison to al Qaeda's brutalities – and our soldiers under the Petraeus strategy got off their big bases and out of their tanks and deeper into the neighborhoods, American values began to win the war.

Iraqis came to respect American soldiers as warriors who would protect them from terror gangs. But Iraqis also discovered that these great warriors are even happier helping rebuild a clinic, school or a neighborhood. They learned that the American soldier is not only the most dangerous enemy in the world, but one of the best friends a neighborhood can have.

Some people charge that we have merely "rented" the Sunni tribesmen, the former insurgents who now fight by our side. This implies that because we pay these people, their loyalty must be for sale to the highest bidder. But as Gen. Petraeus demonstrated in Nineveh province in 2003 to 2004, many of the Iraqis who filled the ranks of the Sunni insurgency from 2003 into 2007 could have been working with us all along, had we treated them intelligently and respectfully. In Nineveh in 2003, under then Maj. Gen. Petraeus's leadership, these men – many of them veterans of the Iraqi army – played a crucial role in restoring civil order. Yet due to excessive de-Baathification and the administration's attempt to marginalize powerful tribal sheiks in Anbar and other provinces – including men even Saddam dared not ignore – we transformed potential partners into dreaded enemies in less than a year.

Then al Qaeda in Iraq, which helped fund and tried to control the Sunni insurgency for its own ends, raped too many women and boys, cut off too many heads, and brought drugs into too many neighborhoods. By outraging the tribes, it gave birth to the Sunni "awakening." We – and Iraq – got a second chance. Powerful tribes in Anbar province cooperate with us now because they came to see al Qaeda for what it is – and to see Americans for what we truly are.

Soldiers everywhere are paid, and good generals know it is dangerous to mess with a soldier's money. The shoeless heroes who froze at Valley Forge were paid, and when their pay did not come they threatened to leave – and some did. Soldiers have families and will not fight for a nation that allows their families to starve. But to say that the tribes who fight with us are "rented" is perhaps as vile a slander as to say that George Washington's men would have left him if the British offered a better deal.

Equally misguided were some senators' attempts to use Gen. Petraeus's statement, that there could be no purely military solution in Iraq, to dismiss our soldiers' achievements as "merely" military. In a successful counterinsurgency it is impossible to separate military and political success. The Sunni "awakening" was not primarily a military event any more than it was "bribery." It was a political event with enormous military benefits.

The huge drop in roadside bombings is also a political success – because the bombings were political events. It is not possible to bury a tank-busting 1,500-pound bomb in a neighborhood street without the neighbors noticing. Since the military cannot watch every road during every hour of the day (that would be a purely military solution), whether the bomb kills soldiers depends on whether the neighbors warn the soldiers or cover for the terrorists. Once they mostly stood silent; today they tend to pick up their cell phones and call the Americans. Even in big "kinetic" military operations like the taking of Baqubah in June 2007, politics was crucial. Casualties were a fraction of what we expected because, block-by-block, the citizens told our guys where to find the bad guys. I was there; I saw it.

The Iraqi central government is unsatisfactory at best. But the grass-roots political progress of the past year has been extraordinary – and is directly measurable in the drop in casualties.

This leads us to the most out-of-date aspect of the Senate debate: the argument about the pace of troop withdrawals. Precisely because we have made so much political progress in the past year, rather than talking about force reduction, Congress should be figuring ways and means to increase troop levels. For all our successes, we still do not have enough troops. This makes the fight longer and more lethal for the troops who are fighting. To give one example, I just returned this week from Nineveh province, where I have spent probably eight months between 2005 to 2008, and it is clear that we remain stretched very thin from the Syrian border and through Mosul. Vast swaths of Nineveh are patrolled mostly by occasional overflights.

We know now that we can pull off a successful counterinsurgency in Iraq. We know that we are working with an increasingly willing citizenry. But counterinsurgency, like community policing, requires lots of boots on the ground. You can't do it from inside a jet or a tank.

Over the past 15 months, we have proved that we can win this war. We stand now at the moment of truth. Victory – and a democracy in the Arab world – is within our grasp. But it could yet slip away if our leaders remain transfixed by the war we almost lost, rather than focusing on the war we are winning today.

Mr. Yon is author of the just-published "Moment of Truth in Iraq" (Richard Vigilante Books). He has been reporting from Iraq and Afghanistan since December 2004.

Rackat
04-11-2008, 09:48 AM
Damn straight.

burmafrd
04-11-2008, 10:19 AM
Now wait for Silver to come in with some sort of stupid drivel by someone who maybe was in Iraq for a month and therefore knows more.

Jordan55
04-11-2008, 10:38 AM
Now wait for Silver to come in with some sort of stupid drivel by someone who maybe was in Iraq for a month and therefore knows more.

If you get a chance check out his web site,
He's on top of his game.

Jordan55
04-11-2008, 10:52 AM
Now wait for Silver to come in with some sort of stupid drivel by someone who maybe was in Iraq for a month and therefore knows more.


Since Iceberg, got into it with him he been missing for the last couple of days,
but I'm sure he will be back. He has asked me if I view any liberal sites and the answer is really no, but his posting pretty much fill me in on the opposing view,
Although I don't agree with his politics, he believes in his cause and he makes for good debate on this board.
Silver, if you should read this check my spelling.:rolleyes:

Yeagermeister
04-11-2008, 12:05 PM
Now wait for Silver to come in with some sort of stupid drivel by someone who maybe was in Iraq for a month and therefore knows more.

Nah he'll dismiss it as neocon drivel :laugh2:

Jordan55
04-11-2008, 01:49 PM
The liberals never cease to amaze me

Steve Clemons: Obama Controlled by Jewish Lobby

This is certainly a first. Steve Clemons, writing at the Huffington Post, accuses Barack Obama of selling out to "The Lobby" by refusing to negotiate directly with Hamas:


Obama, in my view, has tarnished his foreign policy credentials here. If he can't embrace what these Americans have been able to do -- and what Senator Chuck Hagel has suggested be done with Hamas -- then what use is his new vision?

What is his position today if not one that has been influenced by special interests whose political weight has undermined the strategic interests of the United States?


Clemons isn't entirely wrong. There is something deeply inconsistent about Obama's intention to meet with every enemy of this country except Hamas. Obama's advisers have explained that he will not meet with Hamas because the group does not recognize Israel's right to exist, but neither does Iran, and Iran is far more capable of threatening that existence. How does Clemons reconcile this with the nefarious influence on Obama of "special interests whose political weight has undermined the strategic interests of the United States?" He doesn't. But it'd be nice if Clemons would just say it outright instead of beating around the bush. Come on Steve, who are these people that undermine the country's strategic interests? Are we talking about the United Association of Plumbers and Pipefitters or the Jews?

arglebargle
04-11-2008, 05:25 PM
'Some see the glass 1/5 full, others see it 4/5s empty'

There has been a year of competent leadership in Iraq. On top of four years of hubris, arrogance, clulessness, and continued rhetoric of 'Everything's getting better'. Is anyone surprised that after four years of lies and BS, that people might question administration claims?

Now I have huge respect for Gen. Petraeus, and I am very impressed with his skill and acumen in pulling off this very difficult operation. But I have little respect for the top leadership who have systematically favored ideological loyalty over competence. And it is an MO of these guys in every field. Only the fall of Donald Rumsfeld, and the loss of a rubber stamp congress led to the desperate measure of appointing him IMO.

Without significant political moves on the Iraqi government's part, it will not matter much how good a job our soldiers have done recently. Unfortunately in the rush to shore up excuses, we rushed through 'Democratic' reforms that have led to a corrupt, incompetant Iraqi president, Maliki, who is basically trying to ensure his faction gets all the power. and the gravy of all that American money. I certainly would not like my hopes for the future pinned on him.

My father taught me to play poker when I was young, and he taught me a lot of maxims that he said were useful in life and poker. The money in the pot is no longer yours; Don't throw good money after bad; Know when to hold and know when to fold; Know your fellow players; Don't play to long odds. The odds on Iraq are murky, but they still don't look so good.

Now the 'You broke it, you bought it' arguement does hold some sway with me. Iraq, regardless of these changes, is still a hellhole; Bagdad is the most dangerous city in the world right now; we can't provide even the basic services that were available under Saddam; much of Iraq has been ethnically cleansed, there are millions of internal refugees, and the educated citizens have fled the country in droves. It goes on and on.......

I know I am not completely comfortable with a pull out, in part because we have screwed the situation up royally, IMO, and we owe it to the Iraqis to leave them with some hope for the future. But that doesn't mean I will down the administration kool aid, and call it wine.

For those of you who like reading Yon, I will leave you with this:

"Al Qaeda and associates had little or no presence in Iraq before the war. But we made huge mistakes early on and now we pump blood and gold into the desert to pay for those blunders. We failed to secure the streets and we sowed doubt and mistrust. We disbanded the government and the army, and we created a vacuum. We tolerated corruption and ineptitude and at first mostly local talent filled the ranks of an insurgency. But when we flattened parts of Fallujah not once but twice in response to the murders of four of our people, we helped create a spectacle of injustice and chaos and Al Qaeda thrived.

In a place where everything that is not desert is tinder, sparks make fire.

Today Al Qaeda is strong, but their welcome grows cold. Iraqis love to say "America put a man on the moon but cannot turn on our lights," and the implication was we really didn't care. We lost the moral high ground."
-April 19, 2007

arglebargle
04-14-2008, 04:17 PM
No more Yon fans?

Jordan55
04-14-2008, 04:57 PM
No more Yon fans?

Apparently not! Mike's actually done a great job on reporting from Iraq, some very interesting reading.