FWST/DMN Blog: Aqib Talib a no-show at Valley Ranch

[WoodysGirl]

Kansas cornerback Aqib Talib was expected to workout for the Cowboys on Friday at Dallas Day but was an unexplained no-show. Talib is regarded as one of the top five cornerbacks in the draft and a player the Cowboys may target at No. 22 if he is available.

The Cowboys worked out 31 players from local colleges and high schools and could have benefitted from seeing Talib train at Valley Ranch. Talib, however, is expected to come to Valley Ranch for a pre-draft visit. More to come on the doings at Dallas Day.

_ Rick Herrin

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Dallas Day done

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The Cowboys just wrapped up their "Dallas Day" workouts, and the 30 or so players have come and gone after eating a barbecue lunch courtesy of the team.

The highest profile prospect slated to be here -- Kansas CB Aqib Talib -- couldn't make it because of a scheduling conflict. He's going through a tour of visits right now, with the draft two weeks away, and he and the Cowboys couldn't make it work today.

The rules, as they were explained to me, work like this: Anyone who's hometown or college is in the Dallas metropolitan area, as defined by Rand McNally, is allowed to come. That meant prospects from SMU and TCU, as well as guys like Texas' Brandon Foster and Colorado's Terence Wheatley, who hail from the area, made up the group.

Wheatley, by the way, is probably the guy here who will be drafted highest. We'll have more to come from this end over the course of the afternoon.

[CrazyCowboy]

I don't want this player and hope it looks bad on him--sorry to the Zoners who support this player....

[theogt]

Good. Let's draft Cason at 28 instead.

[Beast_from_East]

Good. Let's draft Cason at 28 instead.

Agreed, you dont skip a job interview............dumb move on his part.

Between blowing the Cowboys off and failing multiple drug tests in college, I take this guy off the board this afternoon.

[Hoofbite]

Good. Let's draft Cason at 28 instead.

I'm on board. I haven't bee that high on Talib for a long while and don't really want to see him in Dallas at all.

[QT]

He's from Dallas and can't make the workout? Screw him... OVER-RATED...

[AbeBeta]

I don't want this player and hope it looks bad on him--sorry to the Zoners who support this player....

Probably says a bit more about how screwed up air travel is right now. Anyone who puts this on Talib is being silly.

[CATCH17]

I dont want him or anything but I dont see this as anything people should be upset with him about from this article.

Im not a fan of his though but he could be ok in a Tampa 2 system sitting in Zone coverage.

[Arch Stanton]

What team would he prefer to play for over the Cowboys?

He gives VR a pass, I think VR will give Talib a pass.

[AbeBeta]

He's from Dallas and can't make the workout? Screw him... OVER-RATED...

Yes. Blame Talib for American Airlines canceling most of its Dallas flights. I just flew out of SF and American's problems were making a mess out of the flights there -- those cancellations have 100s of people on standby in SFO.

Now just what do you think the situation at their freaking HUB is?

Anyone who blames Talib for this is being moronic.

[Jay-D]

Probably says a bit more about how screwed up air travel is right now. Anyone who puts this on Talib is being silly.

It says he had a scheduling conflict.....not a cancelled flight.

All I know is if the Dallas Cowboys wanted me to come in for a work out, I'd drive there if I had to.

[Doomsday101]

I still see him as 1st rd talent and should the other top CB be off the board then I would have no issue drafting him. He is not my 1st choice of out of the top 4 to 5 CB but he is a very good CB and worthy of the 1st rd grade

[Doomsday101]

I still see him as 1st rd talent and should the other top CB be off the board then I would have no issue drafting him. He is not my 1st choice of out of the top 4 to 5 CB but he is a very good CB and worthy of the 1st rd grade

[AbeBeta]

It says he had a scheduling conflict.....not a cancelled flight.

All I know is if the Dallas Cowboys wanted me to come in for a work out, I'd drive there if I had to.

It also doesn't say that he didn't want to come now does it. He's got to make as many stops as he could -- if driving to Dallas from wherever he currently is would make him miss 3-4 other visits then there is no team in the league that would hold that against him. The only people who would hold it against him are ignorant fans.

[iceberg]

Probably says a bit more about how screwed up air travel is right now. Anyone who puts this on Talib is being silly.

thank you. my boss also had a business trip cancelled cause american had to pull all their md80s and that's like 90% of their fleet.

also - from the article:
The highest profile prospect slated to be here -- Kansas CB Aqib Talib -- couldn't make it because of a scheduling conflict. He's going through a tour of visits right now, with the draft two weeks away, and he and the Cowboys couldn't make it work today.

seems some knees are a jerkin on this one and people just are too ready and willing to believe this is bad.

[dbair1967]

Good. Let's draft Cason at 28 instead.

I'm all for drafting him, just not in the first rd

David

[iceberg]

It says he had a scheduling conflict.....not a cancelled flight.

All I know is if the Dallas Cowboys wanted me to come in for a work out, I'd drive there if I had to.

i would think most fans would. but what if, go with me here for a bit - WHAT IF....he was already scheduled to be interviewed by other teams first? or had other workouts already scheduled?

would you call him dependable if he didn't show to those just so he could show up here? relax, he's still coming in for a visit, he just couldn't do it today.

[CATCH17]

For those of you who remember at least he didn't show up wearing a Vikings shirt.

[Arch Stanton]

thank you. my boss also had a business trip cancelled cause american had to pull all their md80s and that's like 90% of their fleet.

also - from the article:
The highest profile prospect slated to be here -- Kansas CB Aqib Talib -- couldn't make it because of a scheduling conflict. He's going through a tour of visits right now, with the draft two weeks away, and he and the Cowboys couldn't make it work today.

seems some knees are a jerkin on this one and people just are too ready and willing to believe this is bad.

....and the first article states he was an "unexplained no-show".

[iceberg]

....and the first article states he was an "unexplained no-show".

we have no idea why he couldn't make it but man alive some people out there sure do wanna assume he just dis'd us, don't they arch?

how's the UK? i've got a stalker over there can you go take care of her for me?

[Jay-D]

i would think most fans would. but what if, go with me here for a bit - WHAT IF....he was already scheduled to be interviewed by other teams first? or had other workouts already scheduled?

would you call him dependable if he didn't show to those just so he could show up here? relax, he's still coming in for a visit, he just couldn't do it today.


As a Cowboy fan, I don't care about other teams and their silly schedules.

When Jerry Jones calls, your schedule is whatever he says it is. :)

[AbeBeta]

As a Cowboy fan, I don't care about other teams and their silly schedules.

When Jerry Jones calls, your schedule is whatever he says it is. :)

Yes, screw yourself with all the other teams. This is a business and the smart move is to visit as many teams as you can.

Everyone know these visits often mean nothing at all and plenty of teams pick guys they don't have out.

[Arch Stanton]

we have no idea why he couldn't make it but man alive some people out there sure do wanna assume he just dis'd us, don't they arch?

how's the UK? i've got a stalker over there can you go take care of her for me?


I would have thought a player keen to visit VR would have ensured his agent would have made VR aware of why he couldn't make it. :confused:

If he was so keen to visit there wouldn't have been a scheduling conflict in the first place. He'd be at VR today.

Two scenarios from both articles. I'll pass....

[iceberg]

Yes, screw yourself with all the other teams. This is a business and the smart move is to visit as many teams as you can.

Everyone know these visits often mean nothing at all and plenty of teams pick guys they don't have out.

i'm pretty sure he was (sorta) kidding. : )

[iceberg]

I would have thought a player keen to visit VR would have ensured his agent would have made VR aware of why he couldn't make it. :confused:

If he was so keen to visit there wouldn't have been a scheduling conflict in the first place. He'd be at VR today.

Two scenarios from both articles. I'll pass....

'eh, i just have no idea why he couldn't make it and won't assume it's bad. had too many quick assumptions bite me in the ka-ha-ha in my years.

so no to the stalker???

[Arch Stanton]

As a Cowboy fan, I don't care about other teams and their silly schedules.

When Jerry Jones calls, your schedule is whatever he says it is. :)

Exactly!

Perhaps he's at StingDallas with GAC? ;)

[Arch Stanton]

'eh, i just have no idea why he couldn't make it and won't assume it's bad. had too many quick assumptions bite me in the ka-ha-ha in my years.

so no to the stalker???

Pacman and Talib on the same team? :eek:

[AbeBeta]

I would have thought a player keen to visit VR would have ensured his agent would have made VR aware of why he couldn't make it. :confused:

If he was so keen to visit there wouldn't have been a scheduling conflict in the first place. He'd be at VR today.

Two scenarios from both articles. I'll pass....

So you are saying he should have built all kinds of free time into his schedule in order to make sure that he was at VR? This is a business, the draft is 2 weeks away and lots of teams are having him out. So what you are suggesting is that he should have foreseen that American would take down all its flights. Right

[CATCH17]

This just proves people on this board will take anything and run with it even when they have no clue about the situation.

[theogt]

So you are saying he should have built all kinds of free time into his schedule in order to make sure that he was at VR? This is a business, the draft is 2 weeks away and lots of teams are having him out. So what you are suggesting is that he should have foreseen that American would take down all its flights. RightWhy on earth are you assuming that his flight was cancelled?

And the poster's point you're replying to was that he should have informed them that he was missing and why he was missing. In the original report it said it was "unexplained." He may or may not have actually contacted the team, but it seems to suggest he didn't.

[AbeBeta]

This just proves people on this board will take anything and run with it even when they have no clue about the situation.

none of us know EXACTLY why he's gone - but if we use our brains, we can come up with some very likely reasons why getting to Dallas wasn't possible for him.

[Doomsday101]

This just proves people on this board will take anything and run with it even when they have no clue about the situation.

I agree. Those who say they would not draft him I don't have a problem with that but to say you would not draft because he was unable to make it to VR for a visit? Well that is just being silly.

[AbeBeta]

I agree. Those who say they would not draft him I don't have a problem with that but to say you would not draft because he was unable to make it to VR for a visit? Well that is just being silly.

Silly is generous

[theogt]

Who said they wouldn't draft him solely because of this incident?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller?

[Arch Stanton]

So you are saying he should have built all kinds of free time into his schedule in order to make sure that he was at VR? This is a business, the draft is 2 weeks away and lots of teams are having him out. So what you are suggesting is that he should have foreseen that American would take down all its flights. Right

Where does it say anywhere in any of the articles his absence was caused by a cancelled flight?

[Doomsday101]

Silly is generous

Its Friday I did not want to offend today. :laugh2: I admit he is not my 1st choice out of the CB who are likely to go in the 1st rd but if those other top CB are gone before we pick and he is still there I would take him.

[Doomsday101]

Where does it say anywhere in any of the articles his absence was caused by a cancelled flight?

Does it matter the reason why? If he made it to VR for the visit would you then want to draft him? For whatever he was unable to make it that much is pretty simple. He like many other players are making visits at many different locations and it did indicate a conflict in scheduling

[Arch Stanton]

Does it matter the reason why? If he made it to VR for the visit would you then want to draft him? For whatever he was unable to make it that much is pretty simple. He like many other players are making visits at many different locations and it did indicate a conflict in scheduling

Exactly right. Scheduling conflict actually suggests he's visiting with another team. No? So which team would he schedule in front of the Dallas Cowboys? Seems he prefers another team.

[AbeBeta]

Where does it say anywhere in any of the articles his absence was caused by a cancelled flight?

It doesn't but those with half a brain can use logic to derive an answer.

See Below:

A) People all across the country are having a hard time getting to Dallas because of canceled flights

B) Talib is out visiting other teams now, so Talib would have to FLY to get to Dallas.

Therefore, it is very likely that Talib had a scheduling problem b/c of a canceled flight.

[iceberg]

Agreed, you dont skip a job interview............dumb move on his part.

Between blowing the Cowboys off and failing multiple drug tests in college, I take this guy off the board this afternoon.

He's from Dallas and can't make the workout? Screw him... OVER-RATED...

What team would he prefer to play for over the Cowboys?

He gives VR a pass, I think VR will give Talib a pass.

Who said they wouldn't draft him solely because of this incident?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller?

first combines drug use combined with blowing off VR. the rest do seem to "suggest" that if you blow off VR you're history. seems to suggest it, does it not? (since suggesting is good enough by your own verbiage earlier)

just saying. : )

[theogt]

It doesn'tYou're exactly right. It doesn't.

[AbeBeta]

Exactly right. Scheduling conflict actually suggests he's visiting with another team. No? So which team would he schedule in front of the Dallas Cowboys? Seems he prefers another team.

Are you gonna get semantic? No show was used earlier -- that suggest that the team didn't know he wasn't coming -- and I seriously doubt that was the case.

[Arch Stanton]

It doesn't but those with half a brain can use logic to derive an answer.

See Below:

A) People all across the country are having a hard time getting to Dallas because of canceled flights

B) Talib is out visiting other teams now, so Talib would have to FLY to get to Dallas.

Therefore, it is very likely that Talib had a scheduling problem b/c of a canceled flight.


Scheduling CONFLICT. :eek:

[Sarge]

I get a BAD vibe from this clown.

[iceberg]

Exactly right. Scheduling conflict actually suggests he's visiting with another team. No? So which team would he schedule in front of the Dallas Cowboys? Seems he prefers another team.

or he prefers to keep his existing committments.

[theogt]

first combines drug use combined with blowing off VR. the rest do seem to "suggest" that if you blow off VR you're history. seems to suggest it, does it not? (since suggesting is good enough by your own verbiage earlier)

just saying. : )The first two obviously don't apply as they offered other reasons. The third is the only one remotely suggesting that this is the sole reason for passing on him. But I guess if we're allowed to make other ridiculous assumptions (i.e., cancelled flight causation), then we can make this one as well.

[QT]

It doesn't but those with half a brain can use logic to derive an answer.

See Below:

A) People all across the country are having a hard time getting to Dallas because of canceled flights

B) Talib is out visiting other teams now, so Talib would have to FLY to get to Dallas.

Therefore, it is very likely that Talib had a scheduling problem b/c of a canceled flight.


Thank you Talib's agent. What are we thinking with half a brain. LOL.

[Arch Stanton]

The first two obviously don't apply as they offered other reasons. The third is the only one remotely suggesting that this is the sole reason for passing on him. But I guess if we're allowed to make other ridiculous assumptions (i.e., cancelled flight causation), then we can make this one as well.

I've not wanted him for sometime. The drug use just reinforced that.

[iceberg]

The first two obviously don't apply as they offered other reasons. The third is the only one remotely suggesting that this is the sole reason for passing on him. But I guess if we're allowed to make other ridiculous assumptions (i.e., cancelled flight causation), then we can make this one as well.

both sides are making assumptions, are they not?

that's my main point. i don't really care cause i'd prefer cason myself. but i'm not going to assume that because he couldn't make it he was blowing off the cowboys.

like i said - a whole lot of assuming going on and not a whole lot of facts to base them off of. i'll wait to see if there's more to the story before i really care one way or the other.

[Doomsday101]

Exactly right. Scheduling conflict actually suggests he's visiting with another team. No? So which team would he schedule in front of the Dallas Cowboys? Seems he prefers another team.

So what right now he is trying to meet with as many people as he can that is not some knock on the Cowboys. These players are not fans they are trying to position themselves for their careers. Like any player I'm sure he wants to go earlier than late 1st rd. If Dallas drafts him it will be because of skill as a CB and I doubt Jerry Jones is going to hold missing a visit at VR against him

[AbeBeta]

Thank you Talib's agent. What are we thinking with half a brain. LOL.

No, I'm neutral on Talib -- I actually don't think he fits for us in the first -- but I hate to see people use some lame butt excuse for knocking a player off their board. But the ignorant will.

[Vintage]

This thread explains a lot.

Like why every media source has anti-Dallas bias, supposedly.

[Arch Stanton]

first combines drug use combined with blowing off VR. the rest do seem to "suggest" that if you blow off VR you're history. seems to suggest it, does it not? (since suggesting is good enough by your own verbiage earlier)

just saying. : )

I've been consistent in my opinion of not wanting Talib. You may have noticed that somewhere else. ;)

[Rack Bauer]

Some of you people are ridiculous.

None of you mental midgets knows why he couldn't make it, but you're automatically assuming he's "Blowing the cowboys off"?


What if he's at a funeral?

What if he already had other teams scheduled?

What if he couldn't get a flight to Dallas?


How about wait to find out his reasons for not making it before we banish him to the phantom zone?

[Doomsday101]

I've been consistent in my opinion of not wanting Talib. You may have noticed that somewhere else. ;)

Well then him not visiting at VR really had no bearing at all on you not wanting him? I can understand about not wanting a player due to off the field issues and clearly that is a red flag on Talib that could drop him in the draft.

[iceberg]

I've been consistent in my opinion of not wanting Talib. You may have noticed that somewhere else. ;)

yep. and i totally understand. i was just answering a "who said that"? question and your post did say that, even though i know there's more history there. : )

[theogt]

No, I'm neutral on Talib -- I actually don't think he fits for us in the first -- but I hate to see people use some lame butt excuse for knocking a player off their board. But the ignorant will.I think it should be EXTREMELY obvious that this could have a real impact on whether we draft him or not. He does have character issues. And if we can't get him in to talk to him for an extended period of time, we may opt to draft another player.

And since no one on this board has actually said they're "taking them off their board" solely for this reason, I don't know what you're crowing about.

[iceberg]

Some of you people are ridiculous.

None of you mental midgets knows why he couldn't make it, but you're automatically assuming he's "Blowing the cowboys off"?


What if he's at a funeral?

What if he already had other teams scheduled?

What if he couldn't get a flight to Dallas?


How about wait to find out his reasons for not making it before we banish him to the phantom zone?

most of the people banishing him now didn't want him anyway, so it's just reinforcing the banishment.

i think

[Chief]

I get a BAD vibe from this clown.

Perfectly put.

Me too.

:bow:

[Arch Stanton]

Some of you people are ridiculous.

None of you mental midgets knows why he couldn't make it, but you're automatically assuming he's "Blowing the cowboys off"?


What if he's at a funeral?

What if he already had other teams scheduled?

What if he couldn't get a flight to Dallas?


How about wait to find out his reasons for not making it before we banish him to the phantom zone?


Would that be an unexplained funeral? ;)

[theogt]

Some of you people are ridiculous.

None of you mental midgets knows why he couldn't make it, but you're automatically assuming he's "Blowing the cowboys off"?


What if he's at a funeral?

What if he already had other teams scheduled?

What if he couldn't get a flight to Dallas?


How about wait to find out his reasons for not making it before we banish him to the phantom zone?I think the problem some people have is the "unexplained" absence. It implied that the team wasn't informed of him missing before hand, which would appear as though he was blowing the team off.

[Rack Bauer]

Just cuz the writer used the word "Unexplained" Doesn't mean it came from a Cowboys official.



It could just mean exactly what the word itself means... he isn't there and no one explained to them why he wasn't there.



Getting yourself all emotional over a freakin' word (used by a writer, not a cowboys team official) is ridiculous.

[Seven]

Cut him............ :)

[AbeBeta]

I think it should be EXTREMELY obvious that this could have a real impact on whether we draft him or not. He does have character issues. And if we can't get him in to talk to him for an extended period of time, we may opt to draft another player.

And since no one on this board has actually said they're "taking them off their board" solely for this reason, I don't know what you're crowing about.

Again, if this is something where the team feels he blew them off, sure. But it more likely means that we tried to get him in here for "free" on Dallas day and are now going to have to visit with him using one of our alloted 30 visits. Given that most teams end up bringing in some marginal guys during that time, I can't see us not having him out then.

[Avery]

http://www.ideagrove.com/blog/uploaded_images/monty_python_witch-701441.jpg

He's a witch! Burn him! (even though we don't know why)

[Tex]

Some of you people are ridiculous.

None of you mental midgets knows why he couldn't make it, but you're automatically assuming he's "Blowing the cowboys off"?


What if he's at a funeral?

What if he already had other teams scheduled?

What if he couldn't get a flight to Dallas?


How about wait to find out his reasons for not making it before we banish him to the phantom zone?

One of the lamest posts you have made here.

HE ACCEPTED and said HE WOULD BE HERE TODAY AT VR. You think we called him last night and invited him? B.S.

And if he had a conflict.... I just bet he or his agent have a cell phone and Jerrys number. I bet TAlib has several cell phones.

There is no excuse to just be unexplained no-show. Thats irresponsible. If your flight is canceled. Your grandma died or WHATEVER... You pick up a phone and apologize and explain why. Common courtesy.

Tex

[Bleu Star]

All I know is if the Dallas Cowboys wanted me to come in for a work out, I'd drive there if I had to.

:hammer: You know lots.

[Eskimo]

People should give him a break on this - scheduling conflicts happen in life and does not imply a lack of responsibility or malice.

[Bleu Star]

I get a BAD vibe from this clown.

We're on the same page.

[Eskimo]

One of the best medical residents to ever come to our institution ended up missing his interview for his residency position. He called in to explain the situation and we conducted a phone interview. He was gracious, had a good interview and was offered a position which he accepted. It worked out well for everyone.

Interestingly enough, he ended up in Dallas at the Parkland Institute.

[Bleu Star]

One of the best medical residents to ever come to our institution ended up missing his interview for his residency position. He called in to explain the situation and we conducted a phone interview. He was gracious, had a good interview and was offered a position which he accepted. It worked out well for everyone.

Interestingly enough, he ended up in Dallas at the Parkland Institute.

So where does this fall under "unexplained absence"?

[Eskimo]

So where does this fall under "unexplained absence"?

We aren't privy to any conversations that took place between him and VR. There probably is an explanation, we just haven't heard it.

[Bleu Star]

We aren't privy to any conversations that took place between him and VR. There probably is an explanation, we just haven't heard it.

Ok. I'll take your word for it. :blind: By the way, when will you be giving me a tour of VR?

[Eskimo]

Ok. I'll take your word for it. :blind: By the way, when will you be giving me a tour of VR?

If you believe journalists have 100% acess to information and are 100% accurate in dissemination of information than you have much more faith in them than I do.

BTW, I am not defending Talib here - I prefer DRC or Cason. I'm just saying we don't know enough about this situation to make any definitive comments.

[adamknite]

He may have a good excuse for not showing, but on the surface, it doesn't look good on him right now. Hopefully, it'll get cleared up and we'll know the reason.

For his sake, I hope it was something he had no control over, because if it isn't then I'm sure a lot of teams would raise an eyebrow to this incident.

[WoodysGirl]

Who knew this thread would blow up in this way...

[Bleu Star]

Who knew this thread would blow up in this way...

Sorry. I'll go back into my hole now. Pls ring the bell when it's dinnertime. ;)

[big dog cowboy]

I get a BAD vibe from this clown.
The force is strong with this one.

You read your vibes well Sarge.

I've been watching his act his entire career. I'm a KU homer. I don't want him. Nuff said?

[iceberg]

So where does this fall under "unexplained absence"?

um...he missed his interview and *later* called to explain. THEN he got the interview.

[Sarge]

The force is strong with this one.

You read your vibes well Sarge.

I've been watching his act his entire career. I'm a KU homer. I don't want him. Nuff said?

Gotcha............. ;)

[Bleu Star]

um...he missed his interview and *later* called to explain. THEN he got the interview.

You obviously missed my point. Tis ok.

Has Talib called to explain? Let me know.

[Biggems]

i never liked this guy and i never wanted him.....i dont know the full story, but i hope it is negative enough to cause the Jerry and Co. to completely toss him off their draft board.....

give me Antione Cason in a heartbeat.

[Romo2Dez4six]

i never liked this guy and i never wanted him.....i dont know the full story, but i hope it is negative enough to cause the Jerry and Co. to completely toss him off their draft board.....

give me Antione Cason in a heartbeat.

I aree 100%. who cares about him it is his lost for not showing up

[ABQcowboyJR]

I agree that the blame should not be put upon Talib. However, I think we need to think long and hard before we draft him. He clearly has some off the field issues that he needs to explain to the cowboys staff. It is not for me too say whether or not they can be overcome. IMO we are already trying to gain a VERY VERY VERY high risk player and do not need two risk players at the same position.

[Bleu Star]

we are already trying to gain a VERY VERY VERY high risk player and do not need two risk players at the same position.

Game. Set. Match.

[iceberg]

You obviously missed my point. Tis ok.

Has Talib called to explain? Let me know.

you're mistaking me for someone arguing either way. and no, i didn't miss the point. i caught it quite clearly.

[Rack Bauer]

One of the lamest posts you have made here.

HE ACCEPTED and said HE WOULD BE HERE TODAY AT VR. You think we called him last night and invited him? B.S.

And if he had a conflict.... I just bet he or his agent have a cell phone and Jerrys number. I bet TAlib has several cell phones.

There is no excuse to just be unexplained no-show. Thats irresponsible. If your flight is canceled. Your grandma died or WHATEVER... You pick up a phone and apologize and explain why. Common courtesy.

Tex


1. You sure did a helluva job topping my "lame" post.

2. There are no excuses? How the hell do you know? Are you Talib's momma? How the freakin' hell do you know if he did or didn't call the cowboys organization to explain why he didn't make it? Just cuz the writer didn't know why doesn't mean the cowboys don't know why.



Next time try using every ounce of power in that tiny little brain of yours before you go flapping your gums.

[5mics]

If you believe journalists have 100% acess to information and are 100% accurate in dissemination of information than you have much more faith in them than I do.

BTW, I am not defending Talib here - I prefer DRC or Cason. I'm just saying we don't know enough about this situation to make any definitive comments.
Why even bother? The people who did not want him were looking for a reason not to draft him. Talib gave them two: 1) marijuana use, and 2) supposedly blowing off his VR visit

I would still take him in the 1st round if available, but what do I know? I'm FOR getting Pacman..... :)

[ThreeSportStar80]

I have a better plan... Hope and pray DRC or Jenkins falls to us. :grin:

[DaBoys4Life]

Can you guys who are defending talib answer me this.

If you had a job interview set up and didn't show up and didn't explain yourself you don't think thats a negative reflection upon yourself. Even if there is a scheduling conflict the interview was set up a month in advanced so what was so important that had you blow off your initial interview?

[WoodysGirl]

KU coaches have Talib's back (http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/04/ku-coaches-have-talibs-back.html)

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Kansas CB Aqib Talib's had plenty of questions to answer over the last few days.

There was the story that leaked out about failed drug tests as a collegian, and whispers about other character concerns. All of which, according to Jayhawks coach Mark Mangino, are unfounded.

"Aqib is an intelligent young man and he speaks well, and he can represent himself well, and I'm not going to comment on that because it's not appropriate," Mangino told the Kansas City Star (http://www.kansascity.com/166/story/567602.html). "But I can tell you this, his last two seasons in our program, he was a role-model player. He's a guy you'd have baby-sit your kids, you can trust him. Give him credit, he's a success story, he's turned his life around."

Now, Talib didn't come, as scheduled, to Dallas Day yesterday. But from everything I heard, that was "no one's fault" and there was no indication it was anything but a scheduling conflict. So I think anyone reading more into it than that should probably calm down.

[iceberg]

wonder if anyone will. (admit it was an overreaction and calm down)

[theogt]

wonder if anyone will. (admit it was an overreaction and calm down)Holy cow, we've gone over this. Who overreacted? No one based their opinion of the guy on this incident alone.

[iceberg]

Holy cow, we've gone over this. Who overreacted? No one based their opinion of the guy on this incident alone.

not really saying anyone did. but there were some people pretty upset and HOW DARE HE not come to valley ranch postings going on. a lot of people knee-jerked on talib...guilt, and hopefully next time won't be so quick to judge.

[theogt]

not really saying anyone did. but there were some people pretty upset and HOW DARE HE not come to valley ranch postings going on. a lot of people knee-jerked on talib...guilt, and hopefully next time won't be so quick to judge.It depends on whether he "blew off" showing up. If he didn't call ahead of time and just no-showed, that's pretty crappy. The original report seemed to indicate that was the case, so I don't get why someone would be wrong about being miffed about him no-showing.

[The Rawhide Kid]

not really saying anyone did. but there were some people pretty upset and HOW DARE HE not come to valley ranch postings going on. a lot of people knee-jerked on talib...guilt, and hopefully next time won't be so quick to judge.Has anyone found out why he couldn't show up? I wouldn't pass judgment on him until we find out why he was a no-show. But, if it comes out that he had no valid reason, then I would shy away from him.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

People should give him a break on this - scheduling conflicts happen in life and does not imply a lack of responsibility or malice.

Especially considering they don't know what the nature of the conflict was. There are always acceptable mitigating circumstances and making claims on this without complete knowledge is stupid.

[iceberg]

It depends on whether he "blew off" showing up. If he didn't call ahead of time and just no-showed, that's pretty crappy. The original report seemed to indicate that was the case, so I don't get why someone would be wrong about being miffed about him no-showing.

right or wrong they're gonna do it, that's for sure. but it just seems you can make "bad" assumptions about why he didn't show but you can't make "good" assumptions cause the article didn't say that. just seemed a little like a one-way street in that convo.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

right or wrong they're gonna do it, that's for sure. but it just seems you can make "bad" assumptions about why he didn't show but you can't make "good" assumptions cause the article didn't say that. just seemed a little like a one-way street in that convo.

Consider the source.

[Arch Stanton]

If I were Talib and had a scheduling conflict I'd overreact and get my agent to get me to VR and be guilty as charged. :)

[iceberg]

If I were Talib and had a scheduling conflict I'd overreact and get my agent to get me to VR and be guilty as charged. :)

if you were talib you'd just hate yourself, dude! : )

:eek:

[Bleu Star]

not really saying anyone did. but there were some people pretty upset and HOW DARE HE not come to valley ranch postings going on. a lot of people knee-jerked on talib...guilt, and hopefully next time won't be so quick to judge.

I'm not interested in him and his "scheduling conflict" gives me yet another reason to look the other way. As another poster put it, we're already going after Pacman. We don't two players at the same position with potential issues. If we pickup Talib fine but I won't be happy about it... carry on.

[Arch Stanton]

if you were talib you'd just hate yourself, dude! : )

:eek:

True, and I wouldn't fly AA. :laugh2:

[CowboyWay]

Probably says a bit more about how screwed up air travel is right now. Anyone who puts this on Talib is being silly.

Exactly. There may be many reasons why he couldn't make it. Alot of people jumping the gun around here. He may have rescheduled and it most likely isn't a big deal to the folks at VR.

[Bleu Star]

Exactly. There may be many reasons why he couldn't make it. Alot of people jumping the gun around here. He may have rescheduled and it most likely isn't a big deal to the folks at VR.

Jump the gun a bit? Can you link me to the follow up story?

[WoodysGirl]

Jump the gun a bit? Can you link me to the follow up story?
per DMN Breer, FWIW


Now, Talib didn't come, as scheduled, to Dallas Day yesterday. But from everything I heard, that was "no one's fault" and there was no indication it was anything but a scheduling conflict. So I think anyone reading more into it than that should probably calm down.

[Tex]

Exactly. There may be many reasons why he couldn't make it. Alot of people jumping the gun around here. He may have rescheduled and it most likely isn't a big deal to the folks at VR.

I just don't get you guys. He had said he would be here friday. Instead he scheduled visits with other teams. Which is fine.

Unfortunatley his agent sorta dropped the ball and forgot to inform VR is what it sounds like. They just should of called. This was NOT problems with air travel. NO ONE ever said that. It was scheduling conflict because THEY SAID HE WAS VISITING OTHER TEAMS.

Which again is FINE. But someone should of called so it didnt appear he was a no show. It was announced as a scheduling conflict later Friday. Meaning THEY KNEW the day before at least that he would not show. His agent blew this one for the kid. Talib didnt make this decision. His agent did and his agent should of made sure that either he or Talib called to let them know.

This was just a way for the Cowboys not to use one of their other limited visits because they could have him in on their local day.

This wasnt a big deal but quit making excuses. This was NOT a problem with air travel. They said he was visiting other teams instead and I have ZERO problem with that.

But they should of called Thursday at LEAST and let them know.

Instead of making it sound like it was just a no show when he was expected to be there Friday morning. This wasn't Talib's fault. This was his agents job. And he blew it for the kid.

Tex

[Tex]

sorry for the double post... my laptop is acting goofy. If a mod sees this please clean up the mess.

Thanks

Tex

[Dodger]

I just don't get you guys. He had said he would be here friday. Instead he scheduled visits with other teams. Which is fine.

Unfortunatley his agent sorta dropped the ball and forgot to inform VR is what it sounds like. They just should of called. This was NOT problems with air travel. NO ONE ever said that. It was scheduling conflict because THEY SAID HE WAS VISITING OTHER TEAMS.

Which again is FINE. But someone should of called so it didnt appear he was a no show. It was announced as a scheduling conflict later Friday. Meaning THEY KNEW the day before at least that he would not show. His agent blew this one for the kid. Talib didnt make this decision. His agent did and his agent should of made sure that either he or Talib called to let them know.

This was just a way for the Cowboys not to use one of their other limited visits because they could have him in on their local day.

This wasnt a big deal but quit making excuses. This was NOT a problem with air travel. They said he was visiting other teams instead and I have ZERO problem with that.

But they should of called Thursday at LEAST and let them know.

Instead of making it sound like it was just a no show when he was expected to be there Friday morning. This wasn't Talib's fault. This was his agents job. And he blew it for the kid.

TexThis is probably the best scenario on what happened...IMO anyway.

[WoodysGirl]

I just don't get you guys. He had said he would be here friday. Instead he scheduled visits with other teams. Which is fine.

Unfortunatley his agent sorta dropped the ball and forgot to inform VR is what it sounds like. They just should of called. This was NOT problems with air travel. NO ONE ever said that. It was scheduling conflict because THEY SAID HE WAS VISITING OTHER TEAMS.

Which again is FINE. But someone should of called so it didnt appear he was a no show. It was announced as a scheduling conflict later Friday. Meaning THEY KNEW the day before at least that he would not show. His agent blew this one for the kid. Talib didnt make this decision. His agent did and his agent should of made sure that either he or Talib called to let them know.

This was just a way for the Cowboys not to use one of their other limited visits because they could have him in on their local day.

This wasnt a big deal but quit making excuses. This was NOT a problem with air travel. They said he was visiting other teams instead and I have ZERO problem with that.

But they should of called Thursday at LEAST and let them know.

Instead of making it sound like it was just a no show when he was expected to be there Friday morning. This wasn't Talib's fault. This was his agents job. And he blew it for the kid.

TexThe problem is no one knows when the folks at Valley Ranch were informed of his potential absence. We just know the time it was reported. The originating post said 'unexplained" meaning the writer didn't know and neither did his source. The second and all follow-up responses have just stated "scheduling conflicts" Whatever that means.

Also, no one knows anything about WHY he couldn't make it. It is absolutely reasonable to think that the air travel issues last week could have caused problems regarding the coordination of his travels.

You're absolutely right in that it wasn't a big deal, but assuming anything one way or the other is a waste of time. I think outside of any issues regarding his ability, I think there are some who are legitimately pissed that he would dare to "blow off" THE DALLAS COWBOYS.

[Bleu Star]

per DMN Breer, FWIW

I read that earlier and it didn't explain much. Sounded more like heresy rather than actual fact.

[WoodysGirl]

I read that earlier and it didn't explain much. Sounded more like heresy rather than actual fact.
Which is pretty much all there is to go by. The only fact out there is there was a scheduling conflict. Period.

There's been no other information reported as to when the folks at VR were contacted or why he couldn't make it. So assuming anything beyond what was stated seems a waste of time.

[Bleu Star]

Which is pretty much all there is to go by. The only fact out there is there was a scheduling conflict. Period.

There's been no other information reported as to when the folks at VR were contacted or why he couldn't make it. So assuming anything beyond what was stated seems a waste of time.

I just don't see the logic in going after a corner in the draft with a proven history of issues after potentially signing Pacman to play the same position. That's putting an enormous amount of pressure on the great Calvin Hill. JMO

Assuming Pac is reinstated and we get him of course...

Gawd, hurry up draft... Antoine Cason at #22 pls. :pray:

[Chocolate Lab]

Why would there be a scheduling conflict? It's not like Dallas Day was a surprise to him. And since the local days are far more significant than routine fly-ins, why would he have scheduled an interview with another team on Dallas Day?

And if he did, why not re-schedule that interview rather than his Dallas workout?

I also didn't know the entire US airline industry was grounded last weekend post-9/11 style.

Like Sarge said, the whole thing just smells.

Either that or it's another Jerry smokescreen. ;)

[superpunk]

Pot makes some people sleepy and forgetful.

[Hoofbite]

Hopefully he doesn't make it to Dallas on draft day either.

[theogt]

Hopefully he doesn't make it to Dallas on draft day either.zOMG stop freaking out!!!11 You never know, he could have had pancreatic surguriz! and such as.

[REDVOLUTION]

Agreed, you dont skip a job interview............dumb move on his part.

Between blowing the Cowboys off and failing multiple drug tests in college, I take this guy off the board this afternoon.


Agreed.

I am very selective about what I put on a pedestal. Interviewing for Cowboys would pedestal stuff. This guy is an idiot.