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1A. - DeSean Jackson - WR - Cal - This guy has Hester like skills and a WOW speed factor. He flat out can outrun defenses and has great hands and his YAC and running skills are legendary.
1B. Ray Rice RB - Rutgers - a WORKHORSE and great complement to MB3. Very similar running style as Emmitt.
2. Mike Jenkins - CB - SF - Solid CB with tremendous NFL Upside
3. Martin Rucker TE - Missou - A tremendously talented TE Value add here
4. Steve Slaton RB Can't pass on this in 4th. Home run speed back with shifty moves and can compete for our 53 roster.
5. Calais Campbell DE - Very large DE - Depth to our 3-4 DE rotation
6. Athyba Rubin DT USC Interior Lineman may be the steal day 2 in this draft!
7A. Ricky Santos QB - UNH Walter Payton award winner and highly productive QB. Very similar in playing style and background as Tony Romo.
7B - Trade Amodel - select Matt Spanos Center Camp depth to push for backup role early.
theogt
04-19-2008, 10:02 AM
Not exactly realistic is it?
StarHead69
04-19-2008, 10:18 AM
I Like mine better:
1a. Darren McFadden
1b. Glen Dorsey
2. Leodis McKelvin
3. James hardy
4. Jake Long
5. Mike Jenkins
6. Branden Albert
7. Keith Rivers
Seriously Nors...
I like your optimism:cool:
Biggems
04-19-2008, 10:32 AM
Not exactly realistic is it?
what do you expect from a Cheatriots fan.......their Championships aren't realistic either.....CHEATERS....
BTW
I would take the mock in my sig over this one anyday....though I need to redo my sig mock, cause some of the values I have placed, have changed....
TheCount
04-19-2008, 10:36 AM
You should throw Randy Moss and Walter Peyton in that draft as well. ;)
Bigdog
04-19-2008, 10:38 AM
I Like mine better:
1a. Darren McFadden
1b. Glen Dorsey
2. Leodis McKelvin
3. James hardy
4. Jake Long
5. Mike Jenkins
6. Branden Albert
7. Keith Rivers
Seriously Nors...
I like your optimism:cool:
I pick this mock. best one I have seen in years. Great draft:laugh2:
Hostile
04-19-2008, 10:47 AM
Not exactly realistic is it?That sort of fits the profile though doesn't it?
Biggems
04-19-2008, 11:51 AM
Trade our #28 for a 2 and 3, Trade down in 6th and add 7th
1 - CB Antoine Cason - Arizona
2 - RB Jamaal Charles - Texas
2 - DT Red Bryant - A&M
3 - WR Donnie Avery - UH
3 - FS Quintin Demps - UTEP
4 - OG Chad Rinehart - NIU
5 - OT Brandon Keith - NIU
6 - WR/RB/KR Anthony Alridge - UH
7 - G/C Chris McDuffie - Clemson
7 - QB Paul Smith - Tulsa
Potential UDFA to look at: (favorites in blue)
offense
QB - Nick Hill - Southern Illinois
RB - Omar Cuff - Delaware
RB - Danny Woodead - Chadron St
FB - Brad Listorti - UMass
WR - Amarri Jackson - USF
WR - Jayson Foster - Georgia Southern
WR - Joe West - UTEP
TE - Tom Santi - UVA
OT - Tim Silver - Richmond
OG - James Blair - Western Michigan
OG - Brandyn Dombrowksi - SDSU
OG - Brandon Barnes - GVSU
C - Jeff Cavender - Boise St.
C - Robbie Krutilla - Western Michigan
C - Adam Spieker - Mizzou
defense
DT - Richmond Clebert - USF
DT - Nate Robinson - Akron
DE - Marcus Dixon - Hampton
DE - Tywain Myles - Tarleton St
OLB - Greyson Gunheim - Washington
OLB - Vincent Redd - Liberty
OLB - Andy Studebaker - Wheaton
CB - Brian Witherspoon - Stillman
CB - Scorpio Babers - SHSU
CB - Brandon Carr - GVSU
CB - Cary Williams - Washburn
S - Bobby Tatum - ASU
ThatsmyQB
04-19-2008, 02:15 PM
Trade our #28 for a 2 and 3, Trade down in 6th and add 7th
1 - CB Antoine Cason - Arizona
2 - RB Jamaal Charles - Texas
2 - DT Red Bryant - A&M
3 - WR Donnie Avery - UH
3 - FS Quintin Demps - UTEP
4 - OG Chad Rinehart - NIU
5 - OT Brandon Keith - NIU
6 - WR/RB/KR Anthony Alridge - UH
7 - G/C Chris McDuffie - Clemson
7 - QB Paul Smith - Tulsa
Give me Pcman in round 5 instead of Brandon (although I love Brandon) and I'll take it, but would then rather switch our 1st pick to Devin Thomas if he's there and use our Avery pick on a C.B.!
But I love all your picks, not too high on Cason though, but if we get Pacman, I think we can rule out going C.B. round 1.
silverbear
04-19-2008, 02:52 PM
1A. - DeSean Jackson - WR - Cal - This guy has Hester like skills and a WOW speed factor. He flat out can outrun defenses and has great hands and his YAC and running skills are legendary.
1B. Ray Rice RB - Rutgers - a WORKHORSE and great complement to MB3. Very similar running style as Emmitt.
2. Mike Jenkins - CB - SF - Solid CB with tremendous NFL Upside
3. Martin Rucker TE - Missou - A tremendously talented TE Value add here
4. Steve Slaton RB Can't pass on this in 4th. Home run speed back with shifty moves and can compete for our 53 roster.
5. Calais Campbell DE - Very large DE - Depth to our 3-4 DE rotation
6. Athyba Rubin DT USC Interior Lineman may be the steal day 2 in this draft!
7A. Ricky Santos QB - UNH Walter Payton award winner and highly productive QB. Very similar in playing style and background as Tony Romo.
7B - Trade Amodel - select Matt Spanos Center Camp depth to push for backup role early.
You're kidding, right?? I mean, if you tried to write up the worst mock possible, I don't think it could look THIS bad... I'm serious, you HAVE to be trolling with this one...
DeSean Jackson will never be a productive WR in the NFL, but he might be a good kick returner... you do NOT draft kick returners in the first round... Ray Rice in the first is a huge reach, if you want him that bad, trade down into the second, add another early pick...
Jenkins isn't likely to make it to the Cowboys pick at 22 in the first round, let alone to pick 61 in the second... drafting Rucker in the 3rd, when you have Witten, Fasano, Curtis and Hannah already on board, is a waste of a pick... Slaton might make it to the 4th round, but I kinda doubt it... if he does, I can't see spending a pick that early on a RB that you plan on being your 3rd RB...
Campbell is a 2nd or 3rd round prospect, and you have him going in the FIFTH?? Rubin will be off the board in the 4th round, 5th at the latest...
And of course, Santos SUCKS... I knew you were gonna put him on this list, but I didn't know that it would be a LOOOONG way from the most ridiculous choice you made... basically, you seem to be pretty clueless as to the real draft value of the players you chose...
silverbear
04-19-2008, 02:53 PM
I Like mine better:
1a. Darren McFadden
1b. Glen Dorsey
2. Leodis McKelvin
3. James hardy
4. Jake Long
5. Mike Jenkins
6. Branden Albert
7. Keith Rivers
Seriously Nors...
I like your optimism:cool:
Yours is every bit as "realistic" as Nors' is, LOL...
theogt
04-19-2008, 06:43 PM
You're kidding, right?? I mean, if you tried to write up the worst mock possible, I don't think it could look THIS bad... I'm serious, you HAVE to be trolling with this one... YOU are kidding, right? This is an excellent mock for us.
Completely unrealistic? Yes.
Favorable to us? Absolutely.
Bob Sacamano
04-19-2008, 07:01 PM
DeSean Jackson will never be a productive WR in the NFL
I strenuously object
put him in the slot and he'll be wreaking havoc all day
SDogo
04-19-2008, 07:05 PM
I fought and fought the urge to click on this..........why don't I listen to myself
TheCount
04-19-2008, 07:06 PM
We shall see -
There really is no "we shall see", your draft is impossible.
SDogo
04-19-2008, 07:06 PM
We shall see -
I remember those exact words about Gabe Watson. How did that work out. The only thing we will see is once again your the #1 reader of NFL Draft Countdown and the last place finisher in comprehension.
Biggems
04-19-2008, 07:09 PM
i hope Silver doesnt comment on mine..........might bring me to tears.
TheCount
04-19-2008, 07:30 PM
I remember those exact words about Gabe Watson. How did that work out. The only thing we will see is once again your the #1 reader of NFL Draft Countdown and the last place finisher in comprehension.
I like your mock, Home.
DFWJC
04-19-2008, 07:42 PM
I Like mine better:
1a. Darren McFadden
1b. Glen Dorsey
2. Leodis McKelvin
3. James hardy
4. Jake Long
5. Mike Jenkins
6. Branden Albert
7. Keith Rivers
Seriously Nors...
I like your optimism:cool:
That's just wrong:laugh2:
SDogo
04-19-2008, 07:42 PM
I like your mock, Home.
Thanks man.
I see your Woodhead pick, I think we have the same philosophy later in the draft.
silverbear
04-19-2008, 08:05 PM
YOU are kidding, right? This is an excellent mock for us.
Completely unrealistic? Yes.
Favorable to us? Absolutely.
I was commenting on the "unrealistic" part... LOL...
silverbear
04-19-2008, 08:06 PM
i hope Silver doesnt comment on mine..........might bring me to tears.
I like yours... so put up that hanky...
Biggems
04-19-2008, 08:24 PM
I like yours... so put up that hanky...
you only like mine cause half the players are from the state of TX.....
hey, got any info on QB Nick Hill - Southern Illinois
silverbear
04-20-2008, 12:14 AM
you only like mine cause half the players are from the state of TX.....
You know me too well... :D
Hey, the best high school and college football in the world is played in the state of Texas... the Sooners couldn't field a football team if it wasn't for the state of Texas...
hey, got any info on QB Nick Hill - Southern Illinois
You guys have GOT to stop coming up with these ultra-obscure players, now I'm gonna have to go do some research... LOL...
OK, damn you, I'm back... here's what I've learned:
The guy has good size (6-3, 220 pounds), and adequate but not great speed (4.8-4.85 second 40s)... he led the Salukis to one of their best seasons ever in 2007, but that was really the only year he put up good numbers... he went 258 of 361 (71.5 per cent), for 3175 yards in 14 games, 28 TD passes to 7 ints... those numbers are very good... he also showed a willingness to take off with the ball when things broke down, gaining 357 yards on the ground and scoring 4 more TDs... he is reportedly very good at the short passing game, he looks like he'd be well-suited to a West Coast offense...
However...
His marginal foot speed means he won't be the scrambling threat in the pros that he was in college... besides his terrific senior season, he really didn't do much the rest of his college career (but he started out playing basketball in college, at Western Kentucky IIRC)... his mechanics, especially his footwork, need a lot of work...
But most of all, he has a rather weak arm by NFL standards... he played in the Texas Versus the Nation all-star game in El Paso, and was just awful in practice, routinely one-hopping deep outs, that sort of thing...
In spite of his good numbers in 2007, I don't think he has much of a shot in the NFL... his chances are about as good as Ricky Santos' are, which means he may have to learn to speak Canadian...
Now, if you ask me about Joe Blftzpk from Podunk U., I'm gonna have to hurt you... ;)
theogt
04-20-2008, 01:56 AM
I was commenting on the "unrealistic" part... LOL...Oh...fair enough. Carry on then. :D
silverbear
04-20-2008, 02:45 AM
Oh...fair enough. Carry on then. :D
To tell the truth, I think Nors deliberately made his mock ridiculous... I'm reminded of Robin Williams' bit about the Scot who invented the bagpipes:
"Aye, I'm in a mood to invent a musical instrument today; it should be something really disgoosting, something that will really piss people off"...
Nors:
"I feel like posting a completely ludicrous mock draft, see how many people I can annoy"...
I strenuously object
put him in the slot and he'll be wreaking havoc all day
DeSean Jackson flat out is uncoverable there. He is a flat out weapon that gets separation and can outrun anyone. He also has great hands. He will be a 1st round pick - JMO early 20's
To tell the truth, I think Nors deliberately made his mock ridiculous... I'm reminded of Robin Williams' bit about the Scot who invented the bagpipes:
"Aye, I'm in a mood to invent a musical instrument today; it should be something really disgoosting, something that will really piss people off"...
Nors:
"I feel like posting a completely ludicrous mock draft, see how many people I can annoy"...
Just like we would not draft TE Round 2 a few years back - rediculous
See Fassano pick.
Just like it was rediculous Romo was better than Henson - rediculous!
I like my draft - lets see how it plays out
TheCount
04-20-2008, 08:17 AM
Just like we would not draft TE Round 2 a few years back - rediculous
See Fassano pick.
Just like it was rediculous Romo was better than Henson - rediculous!
I like my draft - lets see how it plays out
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
Biggems
04-20-2008, 10:11 AM
DeSean Jackson flat out is uncoverable there. He is a flat out weapon that gets separation and can outrun anyone. He also has great hands. He will be a 1st round pick - JMO early 20's
yet antoine cason covered him like a blanket
Manwiththeplan
04-20-2008, 10:23 AM
6. Athyba Rubin DT USC Interior Lineman may be the steal day 2 in this draft!
he didn't go to usc
theogt
04-20-2008, 10:41 AM
yet antoine cason covered him like a blanketThat's because Cason is a "zone corner."
:huh:
Biggems
04-20-2008, 11:33 AM
he didn't go to usc
I concur.........he didnt go to either USC.....the one on Cali or the one in Carolina.....
Everybody likes to bag on Nors (and usually deservedly so), but I'd definitely take a flyer on Santos later Day 2 or as an UDFA.
Biggems
04-20-2008, 12:00 PM
Everybody likes to bag on Nors (and usually deservedly so), but I'd definitely take a flyer on Santos later Day 2 or as an UDFA.
why........cause u are all for having noodle armed backups?
give me Josh Johnson anyday of the week and twice on Sunday over Santos
theogt
04-20-2008, 12:15 PM
why........cause u are all for having noodle armed backups?
give me Josh Johnson anyday of the week and twice on Sunday over SantosI'd be happy with either. I think Johnson's going to go earlier, though, so Santos would be the better pick for us.
silverbear
04-20-2008, 01:10 PM
DeSean Jackson flat out is uncoverable there. He is a flat out weapon that gets separation and can outrun anyone. He also has great hands. He will be a 1st round pick - JMO early 20's
And yet, he averaged under 12 yards per catch; doesn't sound like he put up too much in the way of YAC to me... hell, he wasn't even his team's leading receiver last year, that would be Lavelle Hawkins...
As for his "great hands", every scouting report I've read mentions that he has a problems with the drops... here's what NFL Draft Countdown lists as his negatives:
Undersized and doesn't have the bulk you look for...Inconsistent and disappeared from games at times...Is not very strong or physical...Will drop the occasional ball due to lack of focus...A sub par blocker...Can still improve as a route runner...May have some typical star receiver character concerns...Durability might be a concern.
NFL Draft Bible has this to say about his negatives:
Cons: While Jackson has done a good job of bulking up, he needs to add more if he is going to be a playmaker or even contribute on offense. Durability is an issue. Even if he does bulk up, dont expect him to run over many defenders or to be listed among the top blocking wide receivers. Jackson needs to work on his route running skills after relying too much on his raw athleticism to beat defensive backs in the Pac-10, which will not be enough at the next level. He was not the most consistent receiver while at Cal, at times dropping the easy pass and disappearing in games when he was not involved early. Jackson has allegedley been flagged by NFL personnel for having questionable character.
CBS Sports describes his negatives this way:
Had no injury problems until 2007, but with his small frame, he might not be able to withstand constant punishment in the many roles he plays and might be better served concentrating on receiving with limited involvement on special teams
Has very good speed, but is still a bit raw running routes and must improve his transition a bit
Is a willing blocker, but with his lack of bulk, he is risking further injury and also gets pushed back into the pocket too much when asked to block in-line (seems slow to fit and drop weight in front of the defender for better side and mirror)
Has an array of moves to get a clean release, but must keep his hands active when a press-coverage defender attacks his body
Has great confidence in his skills, but he'll be encouraged to quiet the on-field chatter at the next level, as physical defenders will make him pay
Relies on his quickness to get to the ball, but must show more aggression combating for the high throws in a crowd and hears footsteps
Football's Future puts it this way:
Size is the major issue with Jackson. He does not appear to be as big as his listed size. He lacks the bulk to go over the middle and take a hit, and can be taken out of a play by physical corners. His height is also only average, and he may have trouble going up and getting the ball against corners because of his overall lack of size.
These are concerns that won't matter all that much as a punt returner, but as a receiver, he will never be good in the NFL... at his size, ALL he's capable of being is a slot receiver, but slot receivers need to run precise routes, which he does not, and they need to catch everything thrown their way, which he does not... they also need to be able to work the middle of the field, and that's not his thing, really...
Indeed, the ability to make the highlight reel catch, then drop an easy throw, makes him sound like a smaller Brandon Lloyd (especially when CBS Sports talks about "hearing footsteps")... throw in the character and durability issues, and this is a first rounder??
Not if I'm drafting, he's not... I have no use for small WRs who can't block, and lack focus... and I'm not drafting a kick returner in the first round...
If you were talking about Jackson in the third or fourth round, his potential on special teams would justify that, and anything he gave a team as a receiver would be a bonus...
silverbear
04-20-2008, 01:12 PM
Just like we would not draft TE Round 2 a few years back - rediculous
See Fassano pick.
"Rediculous"?? "Fassano"??
The fact that we already HAVE a Fasano, and a Witten, and a Curtis, and a Hannah, all of whom the Boys like, should tell you that if they were to draft a TE at all, it will only be in the later rounds...
I like my draft - lets see how it plays out
Your draft is "rediculous"...
silverbear
04-20-2008, 01:20 PM
Just like we would not draft TE Round 2 a few years back - rediculous
See Fassano pick.
"Rediculous"?? "Fassano"??
And who in God's name is "Amodel"??
You want us to think you're some kind of draft expert, some kind of Cowboys' expert, but you don't even know the players' NAMES... LOL...
The fact that we already HAVE a Fasano, and a Witten, and a Curtis, and a Hannah, all of whom the Boys like, should tell you that if they were to draft a TE at all, it will only be in the later rounds...
When we drafted Fasano, the only surprise was drafting a TE that high... we had little in the way of depth behind Witten at that point; now, we have all the quality depth at TE that a team could possibly want...
But if the Boys DID go TE early, it would likely be one of the two TEs that we know they've shown some interest in, Martellus Bennett or Fred Davis... you see, Rucker pretty much sucks as a blocker, which is a basic part of being a TE...
I like my draft - lets see how it plays out
Your draft is "rediculous"...
why........cause u are all for having noodle armed backups?
give me Josh Johnson anyday of the week and twice on Sunday over Santos
I'd take Josh Johnson over him as well, but he probably goes in the third or so.
Late day 2 or UDFA, I'd be all for it. What's to lose?
Like Brad Johnson isn't noodle armed at this point. Romo is a great QB, but arm strength isn't his forte either.
Have you seen ever seen Santos play or are you just going off of what others are saying?
ThatsmyQB
04-20-2008, 02:38 PM
"Rediculous"?? "Fassano"??
And who in God's name is "Amodel"??
You want us to think you're some kind of draft expert, some kind of Cowboys' expert, but you don't even know the players' NAMES... LOL...
The fact that we already HAVE a Fasano, and a Witten, and a Curtis, and a Hannah, all of whom the Boys like, should tell you that if they were to draft a TE at all, it will only be in the later rounds...
When we drafted Fasano, the only surprise was drafting a TE that high... we had little in the way of depth behind Witten at that point; now, we have all the quality depth at TE that a team could possibly want...
But if the Boys DID go TE early, it would likely be one of the two TEs that we know they've shown some interest in, Martellus Bennett or Fred Davis... you see, Rucker pretty much sucks as a blocker, which is a basic part of being a TE...
Your draft is "rediculous"...
The only reason Fasano was a surprise was cause the public was kept in the dark about us switchign to a 2 T.E. base formation, once we found out post draft, the pick really was no surprise then.
There's NO WAY we pick a T.E. in this draft, we have our TE.'s set in stone and no need to pcik one AT ALL!
We got the league's best Witten, a 2nd round good T.E. in Fasano backing him up and Curtis showed he's a good weapon also, I would fall of my chair if we picked a T.E. and SOMEONE should get fired if we do!
Biggems
04-20-2008, 03:00 PM
"Rediculous"?? "Fassano"??
And who in God's name is "Amodel"??
You want us to think you're some kind of draft expert, some kind of Cowboys' expert, but you don't even know the players' NAMES... LOL...
The fact that we already HAVE a Fasano, and a Witten, and a Curtis, and a Hannah, all of whom the Boys like, should tell you that if they were to draft a TE at all, it will only be in the later rounds...
When we drafted Fasano, the only surprise was drafting a TE that high... we had little in the way of depth behind Witten at that point; now, we have all the quality depth at TE that a team could possibly want...
But if the Boys DID go TE early, it would likely be one of the two TEs that we know they've shown some interest in, Martellus Bennett or Fred Davis... you see, Rucker pretty much sucks as a blocker, which is a basic part of being a TE...
Your draft is "rediculous"...
I'm Amodel you know what I mean and I do my little turn on the catwalk, on the catwalk, on the catwalk yeah, I shake my little tush on the catwalk.........
ajk23az
04-20-2008, 04:18 PM
Just like we would not draft TE Round 2 a few years back - rediculous
See Fassano pick.
Just like it was rediculous Romo was better than Henson - rediculous!
I like my draft - lets see how it plays out
Honestly, quit using the word "we" when you post on this board.
ThatsmyQB
04-20-2008, 05:30 PM
Honestly, quit using the word "we" when you post on this board.
Why???
Everyone says that, like if I say we're playing the Skins this weekend, they're like are you on the team?
Well, NO, BUT without the "ME", there would be no Cowboys!
EVERY FAN can say "WE" when talkin about his team, because as a group of fans, we are the reason they are the Cowboys, WITHOUT US, their would be NO DALLAS COWBOYS, without the fans, the Cowboys would NOT EXIST!
So, for that reason, we CAN say "WE" when talkin about our team, cause it's a FACT that their would be no team to call The Dallas Cowboys if not for "WE"!
silverbear
04-20-2008, 07:44 PM
I'm Amodel you know what I mean and I do my little turn on the catwalk, on the catwalk, on the catwalk yeah, I shake my little tush on the catwalk.........
Yeah, I'd heard that about you... :D
L-O-Jete
04-20-2008, 08:40 PM
I fought and fought the urge to click on this..........why don't I listen to myself
Nors posts are like trainwrecks you can't avoid taking a look and afterwards you just wonder why you did it...
zrinkill
04-20-2008, 08:44 PM
1A. - DeSean Jackson - WR - Cal - This guy has Hester like skills and a WOW speed factor. He flat out can outrun defenses and has great hands and his YAC and running skills are legendary.
1B. Ray Rice RB - Rutgers - a WORKHORSE and great complement to MB3. Very similar running style as Emmitt.
2. Mike Jenkins - CB - SF - Solid CB with tremendous NFL Upside
3. Martin Rucker TE - Missou - A tremendously talented TE Value add here
4. Steve Slaton RB Can't pass on this in 4th. Home run speed back with shifty moves and can compete for our 53 roster.
5. Calais Campbell DE - Very large DE - Depth to our 3-4 DE rotation
6. Athyba Rubin DT USC Interior Lineman may be the steal day 2 in this draft!
7A. Ricky Santos QB - UNH Walter Payton award winner and highly productive QB. Very similar in playing style and background as Tony Romo.
7B - Trade Amodel - select Matt Spanos Center Camp depth to push for backup role early.
See ...... this is what happens when a Patriots fan does a Cowboys mock.
PosterChild
04-20-2008, 08:44 PM
1A. - DeSean Jackson - WR - Cal - This guy has Hester like skills and a WOW speed factor. He flat out can outrun defenses and has great hands and his YAC and running skills are legendary.
1B. Ray Rice RB - Rutgers - a WORKHORSE and great complement to MB3. Very similar running style as Emmitt.
2. Mike Jenkins - CB - SF - Solid CB with tremendous NFL Upside
3. Martin Rucker TE - Missou - A tremendously talented TE Value add here
4. Steve Slaton RB Can't pass on this in 4th. Home run speed back with shifty moves and can compete for our 53 roster.
5. Calais Campbell DE - Very large DE - Depth to our 3-4 DE rotation
6. Athyba Rubin DT USC Interior Lineman may be the steal day 2 in this draft!
7A. Ricky Santos QB - UNH Walter Payton award winner and highly productive QB. Very similar in playing style and background as Tony Romo.
7B - Trade Amodel - select Matt Spanos Center Camp depth to push for backup role early.
I was with you until #4. Slayton??
#5-Calais is a bubbly edge player.
#6--Ok
#7 Instead of Santos, let's grab Marcus Monk.
I know damn Well Amodels real name!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YPfEkWSEhcY
Desean Jackson - watch this VIDEO and try and spin that this kid is not a playmaker and homerun threat at WR/Returner
OK - WR 162-2423 15.0 ypc 22 TD's Three seasons
PR 36-633 16.7 per 6 TD's
HOME RUN THREAT
Personal: Parents are Gayle and Bill Jackson ... considered an outstanding baseball player with big-league potential ... brother, Byron, played professional football with the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs in 1992-93 ... owns 4.3 speed in the 40-yard dash ... born Dec. 1, 1986 ... intends to major in social welfare.
Jackson's Career Receiving Stats Year G-GS Rec. Yds. Yds/R TD Long
2005 11-10 38 601 15.8 7 56
2006 13-13 59 1,060 18.0 9 62
2007 12-11 65 762 11.7 6 44
Career 36-34 162 2,423 15.0 22 62
Jackson's Career Punt Return Stats Year G-GS PR Yds. Avg TD Long
2005 11-10 1 49 49.0 1 49
2006 13-13 25 455 18.2 4 95
2007 11-11 12 129 10.8 1 77
Career 35-34 38 633 16.7 6 95
Jackson's Career Rushing Stats Year G-GS Rec. Yds. Yds/R TD Long
2005 11-10 8 48 6.0 0 17
2006 13-13 5 19 3.8 0 9
2007 12-11 11 132 12.0 1 73
Career 36-34 24 199 8.3 1 73
yet antoine cason covered him like a blanket
2007 3-39 for DeSean
2006 6-131 and 62 Yard TD
theogt
04-20-2008, 11:47 PM
2007 3-39 for DeSean
2006 6-131 and 62 Yard TDI don't know if Cason covered Jackson in that game, but I do know that Cason returned an INT for a touchdown in that game.
silverbear
04-20-2008, 11:50 PM
I know damn Well Amodels real name!
Apparently you don't...
It's real simple, Nors-- folks are LAUGHING at your REDICULOUS mock... they're laughing because they know it's a joke, even if you don't...
To be truthful, I don't even know why you continue posting on this forum, when you know good and well that nobody respects you, or your opinions...
I don't know if Cason covered Jackson in that game, but I do know that Cason returned an INT for a touchdown in that game.
And DeSean had a return TD also :) And Desean had another TD called back by penalty.....
Apparently you don't...
It's real simple, Nors-- folks are LAUGHING at your REDICULOUS mock... they're laughing because they know it's a joke, even if you don't...
To be truthful, I don't even know why you continue posting on this forum, when you know good and well that nobody respects you, or your opinions...
Same crap with Romo/Henson
No TE in round two
I killed shot Revis and Willis as top 12 picks before it was cool.
DeSean Jackson is all that - you sling now. But side skirted the film and stats I provided You.
Semper Fidelis
DaBoys4Life
04-21-2008, 03:33 AM
OK - WR 162-2423 15.0 ypc 22 TD's Three seasons
PR 36-633 16.7 per 6 TD's
HOME RUN THREAT
Personal: Parents are Gayle and Bill Jackson ... considered an outstanding baseball player with big-league potential ... brother, Byron, played professional football with the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs in 1992-93 ... owns 4.3 speed in the 40-yard dash ... born Dec. 1, 1986 ... intends to major in social welfare.
Jackson's Career Receiving Stats Year G-GS Rec. Yds. Yds/R TD Long
2005 11-10 38 601 15.8 7 56
2006 13-13 59 1,060 18.0 9 62
2007 12-11 65 762 11.7 6 44
Career 36-34 162 2,423 15.0 22 62
Jackson's Career Punt Return Stats Year G-GS PR Yds. Avg TD Long
2005 11-10 1 49 49.0 1 49
2006 13-13 25 455 18.2 4 95
2007 11-11 12 129 10.8 1 77
Career 35-34 38 633 16.7 6 95
Jackson's Career Rushing Stats Year G-GS Rec. Yds. Yds/R TD Long
2005 11-10 8 48 6.0 0 17
2006 13-13 5 19 3.8 0 9
2007 12-11 11 132 12.0 1 73
Career 36-34 24 199 8.3 1 73
ESPN hype takes you a long way.
This guy dropped off so hard from his sophmore season.
Same crap with Romo/Henson
No TE in round two
I killed shot Revis and Willis as top 12 picks before it was cool.
DeSean Jackson is all that - you sling now. But side skirted the film and stats I provided You.
Semper Fidelis
Revis wasn't a top 12 pick. :confused:
Honestly, quit using the word "we" when you post on this board.
Nope Dallas fan since 1971 as a 6 year old, posted on Prodigy and AOL Dallas boards early 1990's on and through past 5 years here on and off:)
Damn near it - I was propping both in that ilk
My final board had Willis #6, Revis #7
This year I've decided to keep my top 350 off this board -
Biggems
04-21-2008, 09:34 PM
Damn near it - I was propping both in that ilk
My final board had Willis #6, Revis #7
This year I've decided to keep my top 350 off this board -
I dont blame you.......since it is probably a completely assinine list.....you probably have ricky santos as your top rated QB and DeSean Jackson as your top rated player.....
TheCount
04-21-2008, 09:52 PM
Damn near it - I was propping both in that ilk
My final board had Willis #6, Revis #7
This year I've decided to keep my top 350 off this board -
You make it sound like you did some kind of innovative detective work to figure out Willis and Revis were talented.
I dont blame you.......since it is probably a completely assinine list.....you probably have ricky santos as your top rated QB and DeSean Jackson as your top rated player.....
Reread that post - what is assenine?
I had Romo and now Santos rated as 3rd-5th round talent. Romo fell through the cracks UDFA - I have Santos graded more 6th to 7th round with tremendous upside like Romo. Nowhere near top QB and your post is why I no longer post my top 350 here.....
Desean Jackson #1, where did I say that? I think he is a top 20-25 NFL talent going into this draft.
You want to talk football - bring it. Your post was folly.
You make it sound like you did some kind of innovative detective work to figure out Willis and Revis were talented.
Count - going weeks into draft neither were rated by Joe Fan that high. But Yes I was on both as top defensive players in that draft....
go utube willis running through traffig slamming and running down mcfadden sideline to sideline - WOW
This year I've decided to keep my top 350 off this board -
:bow:
Hostile
04-22-2008, 08:16 AM
Damn near it - I was propping both in that ilk
My final board had Willis #6, Revis #7
This year I've decided to keep my top 350 off this board -Out of curiosity why is that?
zrinkill
04-22-2008, 09:03 AM
Out of curiosity why is that?
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Business just picked up!
TheCount
04-22-2008, 09:57 AM
Count - going weeks into draft neither were rated by Joe Fan that high. But Yes I was on both as top defensive players in that draft....
go utube willis running through traffig slamming and running down mcfadden sideline to sideline - WOW
You can't be serious. Willis was globally recognized as the best LB in the draft, he was a top 15 prospect. Revis and Hall were also considered the top two CB prospects by just about everyone.
I'm not sure what world you live in where you were the only one to think they would go early or would be successful in the NFL.
ThatsmyQB
04-22-2008, 11:46 AM
[quote=Nors;2043775] what is assenine?
THIS!
1A. - DeSean Jackson - WR - Cal - This guy has Hester like skills and a WOW speed factor. He flat out can outrun defenses and has great hands and his YAC and running skills are legendary.
1B. Ray Rice RB - Rutgers - a WORKHORSE and great complement to MB3. Very similar running style as Emmitt.
2. Mike Jenkins - CB - SF - Solid CB with tremendous NFL Upside
3. Martin Rucker TE - Missou - A tremendously talented TE Value add here
4. Steve Slaton RB Can't pass on this in 4th. Home run speed back with shifty moves and can compete for our 53 roster.
5. Calais Campbell DE - Very large DE - Depth to our 3-4 DE rotation
6. Athyba Rubin DT USC Interior Lineman may be the steal day 2 in this draft!
You want to talk football - bring it.
Why would ANYONE even entertain talkin football with someone who thinks Mike Jenkins will be avaliable late 2nd round, and Calais Cambell as a 5th round pick, or Rubin in round 6, SERIOUSLY, why do you people entertain this guy who is completely CLUELESS????????????????
Hos - still the ultimate draftnik here - just compartmentalizing it - and not worth having an opinion.
The era of discussion boards we grew up on are really changing in 2008. The art of true debate and discussions are fading away.
I have my 350 like past 7 years and will sit back and enjoy my labor draft day.
Watch the WR from Vandy round 2 -
Hostile
04-24-2008, 12:36 AM
Hos - still the ultimate draftnik here - just compartmentalizing it - and not worth having an opinion.
The era of discussion boards we grew up on are really changing in 2008. The art of true debate and discussions are fading away.
I have my 350 like past 7 years and will sit back and enjoy my labor draft day.
Watch the WR from Vandy round 2 -Dunno Nors, from where I sit it looks like you got your feelings hurt that people think your Mock is unrealistic and you felt that saying that would punish them.
I have always liked your draft analysis stuff and I know others have too. I don't always agree with your observations but what else is new? I don't agree with anyone 100%. I would never beg you to post it. Just seems rather petty if you want to know the truth.
"It's my ball and I'm going home."
That's what it sounds like.
Fact Nors, we all post stuff that people disagree with vehemently. The only problem you have ever really had on any forum is dealing with that like an adult. When you don't people pile on and things go from bad to worse.
Most of us are our own worst enemies when it comes to this stuff. Just my opinion, but your "worst enemy" is out to get you and you don't even care.
That's too bad.
I've never known anyone quite like you Nors. There's not a doubt in my mind that you are a good person at heart. Not even a shred of doubt. It's a pity really that you can't reconcile the good inside of you to your advantage rather than to your ruin. That's always been my dilemma with you.
Biggems
04-24-2008, 12:44 AM
Dunno Nors, from where I sit it looks like you got your feelings hurt that people think your Mock is unrealistic and you felt that saying that would punish them.
I have always liked your draft analysis stuff and I know others have too. I don't always agree with your observations but what else is new? I don't agree with anyone 100%. I would never beg you to post it. Just seems rather petty if you want to know the truth.
"It's my ball and I'm going home."
That's what it sounds like.
Fact Nors, we all post stuff that people disagree with vehemently. The only problem you have ever really had on any forum is dealing with that like an adult. When you don't people pile on and things go from bad to worse.
Most of us are our own worst enemies when it comes to this stuff. Just my opinion, but your "worst enemy" is out to get you and you don't even care.
That's too bad.
I've never known anyone quite like you Nors. There's not a doubt in my mind that you are a good person at heart. Not even a shred of doubt. It's a pity really that you can't reconcile the good inside of you to your advantage rather than to your ruin. That's always been my dilemma with you.
well said Obi Won
ThatsmyQB
04-24-2008, 01:30 PM
Nothing for nothin, but if he's THIS CLUELESS and this FAR OFF in his projectiosn he made in this post, whyon earth woudl anyone want to see his 350?
He's got guys listed as late 1st rounders going in round 6, so why anyone would take him seriously is beyond me!
Not at all - I have some last second gems gleened last night. There could be a player going top 7-12 that is going to be a SHOCKER. Also word is everyone wants out of top 10 - little takers. Lots of $
Manwiththeplan
04-25-2008, 07:25 PM
Not at all - I have some last second gems gleened last night. There could be a player going top 7-12 that is going to be a SHOCKER. Also word is everyone wants out of top 10 - little takers. Lots of $
Jerod Mayo comes to mind, but that wouldn't be shocking
SDogo
04-25-2008, 11:20 PM
Jerod Mayo comes to mind, but that wouldn't be shocking
Not afer NE said they have him rated higher then Rivers.
Jerod Mayo comes to mind, but that wouldn't be shocking
Mayo @ #10
I gave you that - :)
DeSean Jackson watch is now on!!!!!!!!!!!!
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7B - Trade Amodel - select Matt Spanos Center Camp depth to push for backup role early.
tick
Mike Jenkins - CB - SF - Solid CB with tremendous NFL Upside
tick
We goy my boy Jenkins. Happy with Felix Jones over Mendenhall. Rice still on radar. The Pacman trade negates DeSean Jackson today.
TE - in 2-3
You're kidding, right??
Jenkins isn't likely to make it to the Cowboys pick at 22 in the first round, (we nailed him at #25) let alone to pick 61 in the second... drafting Rucker in the 3rd, when you have Witten, Fasano (OOOOPPPPS), Curtis and Hannah already on board, is a waste of a pick... Slaton might make it to the 4th round, but I kinda doubt it... if he does, I can't see spending a pick that early on a RB that you plan on being your 3rd RB...
And of course, Santos SUCKS... ...
Hostile
04-26-2008, 07:24 PM
[
7B - Trade Amodel - select Matt Spanos Center Camp depth to push for backup role early.
tick
Mike Jenkins - CB - SF - Solid CB with tremendous NFL Upside
tick
You're not really going to pat yourself on the back for Jenkins are you?
You had him in the 2nd round, not the 1st and people laughed at you for having him that late. They were right, not you.
What about your 5th round pick that they laughed at? 2nd rounder.
What about your 1st round RB to us? As I type this he's still there in the 2nd.
This isn't anything to crow about. You should eat some crow.
SDogo
04-26-2008, 09:30 PM
You're not really going to pat yourself on the back for Jenkins are you?
You had him in the 2nd round, not the 1st and people laughed at you for having him that late. They were right, not you.
What about your 5th round pick that they laughed at? 2nd rounder.
What about your 1st round RB to us? As I type this he's still there in the 2nd.
This isn't anything to crow about. You should eat some crow.
Thank you for taking the time to type what everyone here was thinking.:bow:
You're not really going to pat yourself on the back for Jenkins are you?
You had him in the 2nd round, not the 1st and people laughed at you for having him that late. They were right, not you.
What about your 5th round pick that they laughed at? 2nd rounder.
What about your 1st round RB to us? As I type this he's still there in the 2nd.
This isn't anything to crow about. You should eat some crow.
Ray Rice went in 2nd - steal I like Felix Jones as alternative - quality pick.
I nailed Jenkins and trade of Amodel. I nailed Tight end yet again. I'm not 100% but close - you sure are not.
Roy Williams trade? Crow? Drew Henson!
And stone cold gave you Mayo 7-12 :)
INSIDE INFO - LOL
Hostile
04-26-2008, 10:08 PM
Ray Rice went in 2nd - steal I like Felix Jones as alternative - quality pick.
I nailed Jenkins and trade of Amodel. I nailed Tight end yet again. I'm not 100% but close - you sure are not.
Roy Williams trade? Crow? Drew Henson!Are you going to look at the mountain of evidence that the Cowboys tried to make a deal for Roy Williams and say there was nothing there?
That's stupid.
No, the deal didn't get done. That doesn't mean it was fake.
300 people here have mentioned trading Ayodele (Amodel to you) and not for a 7th round pick as you did.
You did NOT nail Jenkins. You had him in the 2nd round.
You want to talk about who is closer? I'll be glad to. Chew on this.
Here is me talking about what I expected today.
22 will be a CBa with high character. Cason, Jenkins, or Flowers. I think the Cowboys hope Jenkins is there. I am hoping for Cason obviously. Cason is the pick. I do a backflip into the pool.I don't deny wanting Cason, but I knew what the Cowboys preference was.
How about this regarding the 2nd round?
If Limas Sweed keeps falling look for Jerry to move up.
Now check out what Matt Mosley reported just a little while ago.
According to my source, the Cowboys were hoping Texas wide receiver Limas Sweed would fall to them at No. 61, but then the Steelers took him at No. 53. The Cowboys ended up taking Texas A&M tight end Martellus Bennett.
You don't like me, bite me. My gas emissions have more football knowledge and insight than your little Drew Henson wannabe cute jabs.
SDogo
04-26-2008, 10:22 PM
And stone cold gave you Mayo 7-12 :)
INSIDE INFO - LOL
uh yeah, check the mocks in the competition before you posted yours, a few others had that same inside info.
By the way, being a premium subscriber to NFL Draft Blitz does not mean you have inside info.
uh yeah, check the mocks in the competition before you posted yours, a few others had that same inside info.
By the way, being a premium subscriber to NFL Draft Blitz does not mean you have inside info.
I am not a NFL Draft Blitz subscriber, Is it any good?
I have the goods - and was spot on Mayo.....
Are you going to look at the mountain of evidence that the Cowboys tried to make a deal for Roy Williams and say there was nothing there?
That's stupid.
No, the deal didn't get done. That doesn't mean it was fake.
300 people here have mentioned trading Ayodele (Amodel to you) and not for a 7th round pick as you did.
You did NOT nail Jenkins. You had him in the 2nd round.
You want to talk about who is closer? I'll be glad to. Chew on this.
Here is me talking about what I expected today.
I don't deny wanting Cason, but I knew what the Cowboys preference was.
How about this regarding the 2nd round?
Now check out what Matt Mosley reported just a little while ago.
You don't like me, bite me. My gas emissions have more football knowledge and insight than your little Drew Henson wannabe cute jabs.
Are you going to look at the mountain of evidence that the Cowboys tried to make a deal for Roy Williams and say there was nothing there?
That's stupid.
I agree signed, The Darren Howard trade!
I like the direction of draft - RB, CB, TE first two rounds. I'm rather spot on and yes we traded Amodel as I called and threw in Fassano to get it UP to a 4th.
SDogo
04-26-2008, 10:30 PM
I am not a NFL Draft Blitz subscriber, Is it any good?
Anything free is good
I have the goods - and was spot on Mayo.....
As was a quarter of million other people. Congrats
Hostile
04-26-2008, 10:42 PM
I agree signed, The Darren Howard trade!
I like the direction of draft - RB, CB, TE first two rounds. I'm rather spot on and yes we traded Amodel as I called and threw in Fassano to get it UP to a 4th.Typical duck and chuck response.
Ty Law anyone? Two can play old games that mean nothing. Sort of like your mock. A total failure and you want kudos.
Typical duck and chuck response.
Ty Law anyone? Two can play old games that mean nothing. Sort of like your mock. A total failure and you want kudos.
Ty Law trade in geez is it now 2003? We never won a playoff game by not pulling trigger and since Law left Patriots,They have won no Super Bowls....
Lose/Lose
My mock still spot on - all in all
nailed Jenkins, RB in 1 and TE early
Hostile
04-26-2008, 11:24 PM
Ty Law trade in geez is it now 2003? We never won a playoff game by not pulling trigger and since Law left Patriots,They have won no Super Bowls....
Lose/Lose
My mock still spot on - all in all
nailed Jenkins, RB in 1 and TE earlyLOL
You bring up Henson and Darren Howard, then whine when someone does it back. Typical.
Good luck. I have a feeling you're going to need it.
Calais Campbell was a steal in the 5th. Kudos.
The only thing you are "spot on" is the stains in your underwear.
silverbear
04-26-2008, 11:48 PM
1A. - DeSean Jackson - WR - Cal - This guy has Hester like skills and a WOW speed factor. He flat out can outrun defenses and has great hands and his YAC and running skills are legendary.
Wrong... went at pick 49 instead... you overrated the guy...
1B. Ray Rice RB - Rutgers - a WORKHORSE and great complement to MB3. Very similar running style as Emmitt.
Wrong... the Boys went for Felix Jones... Rice went at pick 66, not at pick 28... you overrated the guy...
2. Mike Jenkins - CB - SF - Solid CB with tremendous NFL Upside
Wrong-- drafted in the first round, at pick 25... which is about the latest anybody with a lick of sense had him going... the Boys traded up because they were pretty sure he wouldn't make it to pick 28... and you have him going at pick 61?? You underrated the guy...
Worse, you try to claim you're RIGHT, when you had him going 36 picks after he did??
3. Martin Rucker TE - Missou - A tremendously talented TE Value add here
Well, with Bennett already drafted, the chances of this happening are nil...
5. Calais Campbell DE - Very large DE - Depth to our 3-4 DE rotation
ROTFLMAO... he went in the second round, pick 60 overall... nice call... :D
The only thing funnier than your mock is your trying to claim credit for getting Jenkins "right", when you did no such thing...
To all the folks laughing at this mock, all you had in response was "we'll see"... well, now we've seen, and your mock is indeed the joke we said it was...
Nailed Amodel Trade
Jenkins
RB in 1
TE in 2 or 3
I'm rather spot on so far
So much for your no TE day 1 crap
zrinkill
04-27-2008, 01:03 AM
Good lord ...... Nors is trying to get credit for his abysmal mock draft????
:lmao2:
silverbear
04-27-2008, 02:25 AM
Nailed Amodel Trade
No, you didn't... you had Ayodele going in a trade for a 7th round pick, he went in a package with Fasano for a 4th...
There were lots of us speculating that Ayodele was expendable, after Zach Thomas was signed... it didn't take any brilliance on your part to figure that out...
Jenkins
In the wrong round... he wouldn't have been on the board where you had him going...
RB in 1
The WRONG RB... the guy you had, went in the 2nd...
TE in 2 or 3
The WRONG TE...
I'm rather spot on so far
ROTFLMAO... yeah, you're a regular guru, you are...
So much for your no TE day 1 crap
Shoot me, I didn't expect Fasano to be traded... once he was, the Cowboys' interest in Davis and Bennett was much easier to understand...
silverbear
04-27-2008, 02:25 AM
Good lord ...... Nors is trying to get credit for his abysmal mock draft????
:lmao2:
Yup... can you believe it?? The guy makes a total fool of himself, then tries to tell us how brilliant he is...
Manwiththeplan
04-27-2008, 08:02 AM
And stone cold gave you Mayo 7-12 :)
INSIDE INFO - LOL
Not saying you weren't the first to say it here, but I heard it some where else before
Hostile
04-27-2008, 08:48 AM
Nailed Amodel Trade
Jenkins
RB in 1
TE in 2 or 3
I'm rather spot on so far
So much for your no TE day 1 crapI :bow: to Nors. He is the ONLY person alive who had Dallas going RB in round 1. No one else figured we'd do that. He's amazing.
:rolleyes:
Tick - had Slaton in 4 But someone went and got him late 3rd. Tashard Choice next best available RB - Tick
Ahtyba Rubin in 6th - tick
Santos or Matt Spanos in 7? - lol
tomson75
04-27-2008, 09:41 PM
Your boy-toy is a Chief now Nors....here, let me help (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1) you.
ThatsmyQB
04-28-2008, 11:14 AM
Originally Posted by Nors http://cowboyszone.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2055874#post2055874)
I agree signed, The Darren Howard trade!
I like the direction of draft - RB, CB, TE first two rounds. I'm rather spot on and yes we traded Amodel as I called and threw in Fassano to get it UP to a 4th.
Why is anyone talkin to this guy?
He's obviously 8 years old, can't even spell Fasano correctly and don't even get me started on how he spelled Ayodele (AMODEL LOL).
That coupled with him thinking Jenkins was a late 2nd rounder and predicted Ray Rice to us?
The guy is OBVIOUSLY pulling our chain in a JOKE, but if he's trying to be serious, he has to be 8 years old, either way, don't give this guy the time of day anymore!
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