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Heisenberg
05-15-2008, 04:21 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10362.html

Obama's learning rules of the game
By: Roger Simon
May 15, 2008 06:33 AM EST

Early on in the election process, Barack Obama decided he did not much like the election process.

It was way back in February of last year, and the Democratic National Committee was holding a cattle call for all the candidates in a suburban hotel outside Washington.

The room was stuffed to the bursting point with pols and press, people were jostling to get in, others were shouting outside in the hall, and it was all kind of raucous.

“You know, if you look at all the cameras gathered around and the clickin’ of the photographers, the pundits who are collected, sometimes you feel like you are part of a reality TV show,” Obama told the audience. “I feel like this is ‘American Idol’ or ‘Survivor,’ and you got to figure out if you’re going to go to Hollywood or you’re going to be voted off the island. But that’s not why I’m here.”

At the time, I wrote that this was the most “intriguing” line of any candidate’s speech. But I also wondered if Obama was going to be another of those very bright candidates who realize how flawed and downright silly the presidential election process can be and aren’t willing to play along with it.

Are there “Hollywood” aspects to electing a president? Yeah, that’s why they say politics is show business for ugly people. (Except not many ugly people get elected in politics anymore, which is a sign of just how Hollywood it has become.)

But while Obama went on to show himself to be a great speaker and a good campaigner, there were certain aspects of campaigning that still troubled him.

In an interview with NBC’s Brian Williams last week, Williams laughingly brought up Obama’s questionable bowling skills and his wearing a tie while campaigning with farmers.

Obama didn’t laugh off his reply. “I think the American people are smarter than that,” Obama said. “The bowling’s a wonderful example.” Obama said he was having a great time talking to voters and signing autographs when “some woman” invited him to bowl a couple of frames and “although I haven’t bowled in 25 years,” he went and he did so (bowling a 37 in seven frames).

“And I’m out there and I’m having a great time, you know? And suddenly, this becomes some big sort of signifier of whether or not I’m in tune with blue-collar culture,” Obama complained.

He went on: “Sometimes I wear a tie, sometimes I don’t. Sometimes I wear a flag pin, sometimes I don’t. You know, sometimes I like a burger and a beer. Sometimes a glass of wine and a steak is good. But this doesn’t have much to do with how I’m gonna lead the country.”

And you know what? Obama is absolutely, positively right. And you know what? It doesn’t really matter that he is right.

The process is the process, the game is the game. And you can spend your time exposing how flawed the game is, or you can spend your time winning it.


In the past few weeks, it has become clear to me that Obama intends to win it. In West Virginia, he shot some pool at a billiards hall, and when he sank a ball on the break and then pocketed two more, he said, “That’s a sign of a misspent youth.”

(This did not lead to victory for him in West Virginia. But the game is a long one.)

While Obama was campaigning in Oregon this week, a local reporter asked him: “If you had a tattoo, what would it be and where would you put it?”

Obama replied that if he were forced to get a tattoo, “I suppose I’d have to have Michelle’s name tattooed somewhere very discreet.”

A funny answer. And so much better than saying, “This doesn’t have much to do with how I’m gonna lead the country.”

We want our presidents to be real and human. They don’t always have to tell us what we want to hear. And voters can be much more understanding than candidates sometimes give them credit for.

Before the crucial West Virginia primary in 1960, Hubert Humphrey denounced John F. Kennedy as “a millionaire’s son who had never worked a day in his life.”

Kennedy was shaking hands with coal miners in the state one day, when one grizzled old miner held onto his hand and wouldn’t let go. “Is it true you’re a millionaire’s son who never worked a day in your life?” the miner asked.

Kennedy gulped and said, “Yeah, I guess so.”

The miner slapped him on the back and said, “Lemme tell you, son, you ain’t missed a thing.”

REDVOLUTION
05-15-2008, 04:39 PM
Obama's learning rules of the game


Great so he will be another typical politician. Excellent:rolleyes:

Dallas
05-15-2008, 04:43 PM
Great so he will be another typical politician. Excellent:rolleyes:


People are FOOLING themselves if they think for a SECOND that Obama is any different than any other politician.

Left or Right.

HA !


Sheep

DaBoys4Life
05-15-2008, 04:54 PM
Still don't see the hype around obama. If people really think there will be a black president then thats a shame. That is something that I'd prob wont see in my lifetime same goes for a female president. They democrat party needs to get different candidates next election other wise the republicans will win again.

iceberg
05-15-2008, 04:55 PM
People are FOOLING themselves if they think for a SECOND that Obama is any different than any other politician.

Left or Right.

HA !


Sheep

oh what are you going to do - bleet on me??? : )

Dallas
05-15-2008, 04:55 PM
oh what are you going to do - bleet on me??? : )


listen here sweetie....we are talking serious politics.

BrAinPaiNt
05-15-2008, 04:59 PM
listen here sweetie....we are talking serious politics.

Politics, Smolitics...go fix me a moose burger. :p: ;)

DaBoys4Life
05-15-2008, 04:59 PM
listen here sweetie....we are talking serious politics.

i see what you did there.

Dallas
05-15-2008, 05:03 PM
Politics, Smolitics...go fix me a moose burger. :p: ;)


If I had some moose buger, I would send you and Hos some. It is FANTASTIC. Ill ask around and see if some of my friends who hunt moose have some.

It is very good and im not a big fan of eating wild game.

REDVOLUTION
05-15-2008, 05:08 PM
People are FOOLING themselves if they think for a SECOND that Obama is any different than any other politician.

Left or Right.

HA !


Sheep


Yeah... the simple fact that he has to "learn the rules of the game" makes us all losers

"Whoever wins, we lose"

iceberg
05-15-2008, 05:09 PM
listen here sweetie....we are talking serious politics.

boy, don't take that tone with me!

BrAinPaiNt
05-15-2008, 05:16 PM
boy, don't take that tone with me!

When you learn to use the shift key we will let you sit at the big boys table, until then you are stuck at the kiddies table. ;)

iceberg
05-15-2008, 06:22 PM
When you learn to use the shift key we will let you sit at the big boys table, until then you are stuck at the kiddies table. ;)

you want my hair don't you?

vta
05-15-2008, 06:35 PM
When you learn to use the shift key we will let you sit at the big boys table, until then you are stuck at the kiddies table. ;)

:lmao2:

Heisenberg
05-15-2008, 06:36 PM
Great so he will be another typical politician. Excellent:rolleyes:

Well, he's going to have to straddle the line. He was starting to get the label as being an elitest and out of touch with the average person.

You see, the average person is fooled by their presidential candidates drinking a beer, saying he's one of us, etc. Bush got a lot of votes because he was someone you "could enjoy a beer with". It's completely pointless and dumb, but it's our political process. Go us.

When smarts and policies are what should be important, we focus on "gut feelings" and "he seems like a good guy" fluff.

iceberg
05-15-2008, 06:59 PM
:lmao2:

i know what you want.

pervert.

hush hawkeye.

Bach
05-15-2008, 07:04 PM
Well, he's going to have to straddle the line. He was starting to get the label as being an elitest and out of touch with the average person.

You see, the average person is fooled by their presidential candidates drinking a beer, saying he's one of us, etc. Bush got a lot of votes because he was someone you "could enjoy a beer with". It's completely pointless and dumb, but it's our political process. Go us.

When smarts and policies are what should be important, we focus on "gut feelings" and "he seems like a good guy" fluff.

Bill got a lot of mileage out of that too in the '90's.

He was the type of guy you could share a beer with and would just as easily take home the fat girl at the end of the night just like the next guy.

vta
05-15-2008, 07:14 PM
i know what you want.

pervert.

hush hawkeye.

I was at the meetings. ;)

Heisenberg
05-15-2008, 07:18 PM
Bill got a lot of mileage out of that too in the '90's.

He was the type of guy you could share a beer with and would just as easily take home the fat girl at the end of the night just like the next guy.

No question. He did really well with that because he had that "good ol' boy" thing going for him.

REDVOLUTION
05-15-2008, 07:18 PM
Well, he's going to have to straddle the line. He was starting to get the label as being an elitest and out of touch with the average person.

You see, the average person is fooled by their presidential candidates drinking a beer, saying he's one of us, etc. Bush got a lot of votes because he was someone you "could enjoy a beer with". It's completely pointless and dumb, but it's our political process. Go us.

When smarts and policies are what should be important, we focus on "gut feelings" and "he seems like a good guy" fluff.


I dont know how ANYONE can be PRO any presidential candidate. I really dont.

You are up Obama keister so much I thought you were Obama for a little while there :lmao2:

Heisenberg
05-15-2008, 08:15 PM
I dont know how ANYONE can be PRO any presidential candidate. I really dont.

You are up Obama keister so much I thought you were Obama for a little while there :lmao2:

I like his policies and I think he has a knack for making people enthusiastic about politics. I'm more interested in politics now, because of him, than I have ever been.

That's worth something.

I'm not naive enough to think he's going to change the world or that he will never play the "politics game", but I think he can do some good.