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WoodysGirl
05-21-2008, 11:35 AM
By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
Wed May 21, 7:17 AM ET



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama has opened an 8-point national lead on Republican John McCain as the U.S. presidential rivals turn their focus to a general election race, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.

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Obama, who was tied with McCain in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup last month, moved to a 48 percent to 40 percent lead over the Arizona senator in May as he took command of his grueling Democratic presidential duel with rival Hillary Clinton.

The Illinois senator has not yet secured the Democratic presidential nomination to run against McCain in November.

The poll also found Obama expanded his lead over Clinton in the Democratic race to 26 percentage points, doubling his advantage from mid-April as Democrats begin to coalesce around Obama and prepare for the general election battle with McCain.

"Obama has been very resilient, bouncing back from rough periods and doing very well with independent voters," pollster John Zogby said. "The race with McCain is going to be very competitive."

The poll was taken Thursday through Sunday during a period when Obama came under attack from President George W. Bush and McCain for his promise to talk to hostile foreign leaders without preconditions.

Obama's gains followed a month in which he was plagued with a series of campaign controversies and suffered two big losses to Clinton in Pennsylvania and West Virginia.

The poll was conducted after Obama denounced his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who made a series of public appearances that rekindled a controversy over his inflammatory comments on race and religion.

Obama also survived a furor over his comments about "bitter" small-town residents who cling to guns and religion out of frustration over their economic concerns.

Obama edged closer to clinching the Democratic nomination on Tuesday when he split two nominating contests with Clinton, beating the New York senator in Oregon and losing in Kentucky to gain a majority of pledged delegates won in state-by-state nominating contests.

The results put him within easy range of the 2,026 delegates needed for the nomination. Just three Democratic nominating contests remain before voting concludes on June 3.

OBAMA BETTER ON ECONOMY

The poll found Obama was seen as a better steward of the economy than McCain, leading 48 percent to 39 percent. McCain led Obama by 3 points last month on an issue that is certain to be crucial in their campaign.

Obama led McCain among independents, 47 percent to 35 percent, and led among some groups of voters who have backed Clinton during their Democratic primary battle, including Catholics, Jews, union households and voters making less than $35,000 a year.

McCain led among whites, NASCAR fans, and elderly voters. McCain led with voters who believed the United States was on the right track, and Obama led with the much higher percentage of voters who believed it was on the wrong track.

"Clearly voters are looking for change. Every problem Obama has had in consolidating his base and reaching to the center, John McCain has the same sort of problem," Zogby said.

"It's McCain's lead among voters over the age of 65 that is keeping him within shouting distance of Obama," he said.

The poll found Clinton, who has shrugged off calls to quit the Democratic race, tied at 43 percent with McCain in the national poll. She led McCain by 47 percent to 40 percent on who would be the better manager of the economy.

Obama and Clinton have refrained from attacking each other in recent weeks as Obama has turned his focus to McCain.

But Zogby said the attacks on Obama by Bush and McCain, who have been critical of his willingness to talk to leaders of countries like Iran, did not appear to hurt Obama. If anything, he said, it reminded voters of McCain's ties to Bush, whose approval rating is still mired at record lows.

"The president is so unpopular. To inject himself into a presidential campaign does not help John McCain, particularly when McCain is tied to Bush," Zogby said.

The national survey of 516 likely Democratic primary voters had a margin of error of 4.4 percentage points. The poll of the national race between McCain and the two Democratic contenders surveyed 1,076 likely voters with a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

(Editing by Doina Chiacu)

(For more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters "Tales from the Trail: 2008" online at http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/)

ConcordCowboy
05-21-2008, 11:43 AM
Sanity has taken over.

:D

trickblue
05-21-2008, 11:47 AM
Sanity has taken over.

:D

No matter who wins... sanity is long out the door in this country...

AtlCB
05-21-2008, 11:54 AM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Rasmussen has it 45% to 44%

ConcordCowboy
05-21-2008, 11:59 AM
No matter who wins... sanity is long out the door in this country...

I'm going to give this country ONE more chance to prove that sanity hasn't gone out the door.

2000...Bush OK I'm willing to give him a chance.

2004...Bush again...are you frickin kidding me?

2008...Obama...OK sanity is back.

2008...McCain...you're right...out the door and gone forever. :D

ConcordCowboy
05-21-2008, 12:00 PM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Rasmussen has it 45% to 44%

Sanity slipping.

:D

Doomsday101
05-21-2008, 12:01 PM
However McCain leads Obama in electoral counts at least according to what was shown on CNN. Overall polls are meaningless when in the end the vote comes down to winning the electoral count

BrAinPaiNt
05-21-2008, 12:03 PM
We are all going to die....someday.

ConcordCowboy
05-21-2008, 12:10 PM
However McCain leads Obama in electoral counts at least according to what was shown on CNN. Overall polls are meaningless when in the end the vote comes down to winning the electoral count

CNN sucks!

:D

AtlCB
05-21-2008, 12:15 PM
I'm really surprised that these two polls are off by so much - nine percentage points! :eek:

Someone's polling method may be a bit sketchy.

Doomsday101
05-21-2008, 12:18 PM
CNN sucks!

:D

Maybe so but the Electoral vote count is what will determine who wins the White House not some national poll. :laugh2:

Doomsday101
05-21-2008, 12:19 PM
We are all going to die....someday.

Not me, I have a plan. :laugh2:

Cajuncowboy
05-21-2008, 12:19 PM
The only polling that is very accurate are the internal polls that the campaigns do.

And the ones that are posted (Rassmussen, Gallup etc.) in May have nothing at all to do where the actual numbers lie. In fact, unless they are polling actual voters they are going to be so far off it's ludicrous.

Cajuncowboy
05-21-2008, 12:21 PM
The national survey of 516 likely Democratic primary voters had a margin of error of 4.4 percentage points. The poll of the national race between McCain and the two Democratic contenders surveyed 1,076 likely voters with a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

(Editing by Doina Chiacu)

(For more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters "Tales from the Trail: 2008" online at http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/)

They only asked Democrats and he only has an 8 point advantage???

Cajuncowboy
05-21-2008, 12:22 PM
Not me, I have a plan. :laugh2:

Me 2. :D

Bach
05-21-2008, 12:55 PM
On election day in 2004 the polls had Kerry as the winner.

I think I'll wait til election night.

ConcordCowboy
05-21-2008, 01:22 PM
Not me, I have a plan. :laugh2:

Me 2. :D

http://media-cyber.law.harvard.edu/blogs/static/gaetano/satan.jpg...I'll be waiting for you two...


:D

Cajuncowboy
05-21-2008, 01:23 PM
http://media-cyber.law.harvard.edu/blogs/static/gaetano/satan.jpg...I'll be waiting for you two...


:D

No self respecting devil would wear something that ghey. :p:

WoodysGirl
05-21-2008, 01:25 PM
No self respecting devil would wear something that ghey. :p:
No, they would all look like this...

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Al-Pacino---The-Devils-Advocate-Photograph-C10104106.jpeg

ConcordCowboy
05-21-2008, 01:33 PM
No self respecting devil would wear something that ghey. :p:

:laugh2:

ConcordCowboy
05-21-2008, 01:34 PM
No, they would all look like this...

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Al-Pacino---The-Devils-Advocate-Photograph-C10104106.jpeg

That's a good movie.

BrAinPaiNt
05-21-2008, 01:37 PM
I'll be waiting as I will be the tour guide.

<evil laugh>

Jordan55
05-21-2008, 02:06 PM
CNN sucks!

:D
That's right!
You prefer your information from MSNBC, and Keith Olberman:D

Doomsday101
05-21-2008, 02:40 PM
No, they would all look like this...

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Al-Pacino---The-Devils-Advocate-Photograph-C10104106.jpeg

And if not mistaken his son is a lawyer. :laugh2:

ConcordCowboy
05-21-2008, 02:57 PM
That's right!
You prefer your information from MSNBC, and Keith Olberman:D

Well at least it's fair and balanced information.

;)

Jordan55
05-21-2008, 03:29 PM
Well at least it's fair and balanced information.

;)
:laugh2: I guess from your prospective, thus the high rating for Keith Olberman, who by the way has the top program on this network.
America can't wait to tune in.

ConcordCowboy
05-21-2008, 03:34 PM
:laugh2: I guess from your prospective, thus the high rating for Keith Olberman, who by the way has the top program on this network.
America can't wait to tune in.

Nobody ever said that all of America is very smart.

After all Bush did get elected twice.

:D

AtlCB
05-21-2008, 03:40 PM
Nobody ever said that all of America is very smart.

After all Bush did get elected twice.

:D
......and Jimmy Carter got elected.

Jordan55
05-21-2008, 03:44 PM
Nobody ever said that all of America is very smart.

After all Bush did get elected twice.

:D

Well there wasn't much competition Gore? and the other one, um Kerry, that's right, they had no choice:D At least America, was smart enough see that! And you think it bad now, could imagine the alternatives:shoot6:

iceberg
05-21-2008, 03:45 PM
No matter who wins... sanity is long out the door in this country...

yea, being the best turd in a crapper doesn't matter. you're still a turd in a crapper.

sad state of affairs when the rally cry is "my idiot isn't as stupid as your idiot!"