Muslim Male extremists...

[irvin88]

Do you remember?

1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40.

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

4. During the 1980's a number of Americans wer e kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 w as hijacked at Athens, and a! US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

8. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and c rashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim male extremists between the of 17 and 40.

12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

13. In 2002 rep orter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by-- you&nbs! p;guessed it-- Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people...
Absolutel y No Profiling!

They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identificatio n, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss,

but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling.

According to The Book of Revelations:

The Anti- will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent , who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE -like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, he will destroy everything.


And! Now:
For the award winning Act of Stupidity of All Times
The People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet --
The Presidency of the United states of America

A Muslim
Male
Extremist
Between
the ages
of 17 and 40.



Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason ???

I'm sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the 'unknown' candidate Obama...

Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.




As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it,



'Stupid
Is
As
Stupid Does.'

[Cajuncowboy]

I don't believe Obama is a Muslim. I do however think he and his family are racists just by the company they keep and the words of his own wife.

His policies are dangerous America.

[Heisenberg]

Wow. The smear machine is in full force today. Good times.

The Anti- ? Seriously?

[ologan]

Well,we may be weeding thru the Muslim extremists between 17-40,as there seems to be an increase of young kids and women strapping on homicide belts these days. I wish we were,anyway.

[Heisenberg]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/antichrist.asp

Ya know, in case you actually believe Obama is the anti- . I can't believe I'm even responding to this crap. I should learn.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Wow. The smear machine is in full force today. Good times.

The Anti- ? Seriously?

The only time this guy posts something in the political zone it is some tripe to stir up stuff and then he is off to the rodeo to not respond.

And 9 times out of 10 it is some tripe that has been debunked...hmmm

[Cajuncowboy]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/antichrist.asp

Ya know, in case you actually believe Obama is the anti- . I can't believe I'm even responding to this crap. I should learn.

Although Snopes doesn't take into account the full study of eschatology, I do not think Obama is an anti- or THE anti- .

Simply by his statement that he is a follower of disqualifies him from that.

And since forum regulations prevent me from further explaining suffice it to say that Obama doesn't have the credentials to be so.

[irvin88]

The only time this guy posts something in the political zone it is some tripe to stir up stuff and then he is off to the rodeo to not respond.

And 9 times out of 10 it is some tripe that has been debunked...hmmm

No, I'm here. Just telling it like it is.

[vta]

The book of Revelations say's nothing about Muslims, and Muslim is not something to be descended from. It's a choice of religion, not a race.

It may be allegorical, (a beast with 7 heads and 10 horns) but I don't believe there's anything that can be interpreted as it being Muslim.

[CowboyFan74]

See Nero Kesar for the beast of Revelations. Raising taxes .33 cents on the dollar only makes you a thug in my book...:laugh2:

[Vintage]

Although Snopes doesn't take into account the full study of eschatology, I do not think Obama is an anti- or THE anti- .

Simply by his statement that he is a follower of disqualifies him from that.

And since forum regulations prevent me from further explaining suffice it to say that Obama doesn't have the credentials to be so.

You care to send me a P.M. explaining it?

I am curious... and seeing as how I lack the knowledge on stuff like this, thought it would be worth a shot.

[Cajuncowboy]

You care to send me a P.M. explaining it?

I am curious... and seeing as how I lack the knowledge on stuff like this, thought it would be worth a shot.

Regarding him not being the anti- or eschatology in general??

[The30YardSlant]

I don't believe Obama is a Muslim. I do however think he and his family are racists just by the company they keep and the words of his own wife.

His policies are dangerous America.

My thoughts exactly

Whether he is or is not a Muslim is irrelevant IMO (I don't believe he is). America shouldnt elect him because he is the most liberal man in the history of the Senate, has a little more experience than I do in politics, and actually believes he can reason with the likes of Iran and North Korea.

[BrAinPaiNt]

No, I'm here. Just telling it like it is.

Your forwarding lies from bogus emails that have been debunked by snopes and other sources.

[dacarmelking210]

Robert Kennedy was not assassinated by a muslim; he was assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan, who was a Christian Palestinian. 15% of Palestinians are Christian, so don't assume they're all muslims.

[dacarmelking210]

Also, I can't believe this thread exists. Islam didn't even exist when the book of REvelations was written, so I DOUBT it said "MUSLIM" in it.


This thread is ridiculous and racist in EVERY sense of the world. If you substitute "black" for "muslim" the entire Cowboyszone community would be up in arms about this thread.

I'm an Iranian Jew, who at one time, lived in Israel. I would probably have every right in the world to make racist comments about Muslims, but I don't, because I do not believe in "guilt by association" and I know enough about Islam and Muslims to not believe in this slander. How this thread is not locked, is BEYOND me.
Okay, so how about this: I'm going ot make a thread about African-Americans documenting every event where African-American males between the age of 18 and 40 committed a serious crime. Then, I'm going to take a verse from the Bible and slant it to argue how a Black man will be the Anti- . Finally, I will make the connection between Obama and the Anti- . Will any of you have a problem with that? Because this theory is just as valid and relevant as the connection made above.

[Bach]

The idea the Anti- will be a muslim is opposite of what is widely believed.
Most theologians believe the Antichrist will likely be Jewish because the Jews will not receive a Gentile as their promised Messiah.

was Jewish and was rejected by his people. The Anti- is to be the one that the Jewish people erroneously accepts as the Messiah. In order to do this he will have to be one of their own. The notion he would be a muslim is incorrect.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

how could the anti- be a muslim when Islam didn't even exist when Revelations was written by man?

Anyway, last time I checked, Obama is a Christian and isn't between the ages of 17-40.

Furthermore, to the original poster, would you like someone to list all the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity in the past?

[Chinfu]

Do you remember?

1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40.

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

4. During the 1980's a number of Americans wer e kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 w as hijacked at Athens, and a! US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

8. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and c rashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim male extremists between the of 17 and 40.

12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

13. In 2002 rep orter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by-- you&nbs! p;guessed it-- Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people...
Absolutel y No Profiling!

They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identificatio n, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss,

but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling.

According to The Book of Revelations:

The Anti- will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent , who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE -like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, he will destroy everything.


And! Now:
For the award winning Act of Stupidity of All Times
The People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet --
The Presidency of the United states of America

A Muslim
Male
Extremist
Between
the ages
of 17 and 40.



Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason ???

I'm sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the 'unknown' candidate Obama...

Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.




As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it,



'Stupid
Is
As
Stupid Does.'


Queue up the Dueling Banjos

[burmafrd]

It is interesting that certain posters who have in the past put out dubious thoughts so quickly jump on this one. Outside of Sirhan, which ones were wrong?

Profilling is a proven method of narrowing down suspects and getting it done. Its pathetic that PC BS prevents that crime fighting tool from being used.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Bumfard, it happens already. I know two people, one of whom is a colleague who was born in Iran and the other whose husband was born in Iran. Both face major bs while crossing the border to the US (even though it is only to Point Roberts Washington, a place you can only get to the rest of the US by water or back through Canada for no other reason than they were born in Iran.

Don't deceive yourself into thinking profiling already does not exist.

Remember though, those that are willing to call for racial profiling are probably those that don't have to worry about a personal effect on them.

[burmafrd]

As usual you miss the point. Profilling works. We should use it. ALL THE TIME.
The fact is that the huge majority of terrorist incidents are done by males 17-40 of middle eastern background. We should keep using profiling and stop trying to make excuses for it.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

As usual you miss the point. Profilling works. We should use it. ALL THE TIME.
The fact is that the huge majority of terrorist incidents are done by males 17-40 of middle eastern background. We should keep using profiling and stop trying to make excuses for it.


I missed nothing. I know you want it, in fact, I would be shocked if you didn't.

Chances are you do not have to worry about being profiled for anything, being a white male over 40.

Say for example though, a number of middle aged marines got involed in kiddie porn and were more likely than most citizens to molest children (it is just a hypothetical so please don't get all upset) and then the FBI decided that to stop kiddie porn, it had to seize all computers from middle aged marines, interrogate same for hours without counsel present etc

would you be willing to be profiled as such?

[burmafrd]

And once again you miss the point. this LAW ENFORCEMENT TOOL can help us prevent more 9/11's. Of course you being in Canada you could care less.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

You didn't make a valid point as usual.

A tool shouldn't tround on someone's rights should it or would that be ok in your view?

Remember the old line "Those who are willing to give up freedom for security deserves neither".

Funny though, you claim to be a libertarian yet are willing to sacrifice the rights or others.

[DragonCowboy]

:lmao2: burmafrd.

if you were on the other side of the coin, I PROMISE you, you wouldn't be calling for profiling.

[irvin88]

Your forwarding lies from bogus emails that have been debunked by snopes and other sources.

The way you see it....

[BrAinPaiNt]

The way you see it....

Most of the threads you start, have been debunked. End of story.

[masomenos]

As usual you miss the point. Profilling works. We should use it. ALL THE TIME.
The fact is that the huge majority of terrorist incidents are done by males 17-40 of middle eastern background. We should keep using profiling and stop trying to make excuses for it.

Profiling does work, you're right. However, that doesn't mean that profiling is an ethical practice. I'm not saying that it is or isn't ethical, I'm just bringing up the point that just because something works doesn't necessarily give you the right to use it. In it's most extreme cases profiling does lead to racism, as seen in the attacks against Muslims in the U.S. directly after 9/11. It can also lead to wide scale oppression similar to what happened with the Japanese internment camps of WWII. In it's most basic form, however, profiling is simply looking for something where it's most likely to occur. Really this is no different than a gold prospector going to California to look for gold as opposed to looking in Kansas (an odd example, I know, but it works).

Personally, I think it's a violation of rights but the argument for profiling makes a lot of sense on a defense platform.

[burmafrd]

Profilling has been used for decades in Law enforcement, especially as regards serial killers and the like. Too bad if its not politically correct.

And canadian- you have nothing to say about it since Canada does not matter.

[NewEraCowboy]

the palestinian who shot and killed Robert F Kennedy was actually a christian.

[burmafrd]

Yeah that was mentioned.

However if you go by strictly PHYSICAL profiling then he fits: young Middle Eastern Male.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yeah that was mentioned.

However if you go by strictly PHYSICAL profiling then he fits: young Middle Eastern Male.

Oooh how I would love to say a name that fits what you just said. But I will not as I don't want to break rules.:D

[Bach]

Oooh how I would love to say a name that fits what you just said. But I will not as I don't want to break rules.:D

Obama?

[NewEraCowboy]

does his name happen to be samad?

[BrAinPaiNt]

Obama?

Last I heard he was an american citizen or he would not be able to run for President. Nice try though.

[zrinkill]

Oooh how I would love to say a name that fits what you just said. But I will not as I don't want to break rules.:D

Jebus?

[BrAinPaiNt]

Jebus?

I know a Jeb.

[Dallas]

Wow. The smear machine is in full force today. Good times.

The Anti- ? Seriously?

QQ much Ozz? Its a forum board. All opinions allowed.

Get over it or get out. Pretty simple, princess.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Profilling has been used for decades in Law enforcement, especially as regards serial killers and the like. Too bad if its not politically correct.

And canadian- you have nothing to say about it since Canada does not matter.

standard rote response by you when I one up you.

again though, if you fit a certain profile, would you like to be seen as likely guilty just because you fit a profile?

[Heisenberg]

QQ much Ozz? Its a forum board. All opinions allowed.

Get over it or get out. Pretty simple, princess.

Yup. All opinions allowed including mine to think someone is an idiot for believing drivel like this.

You summed it up well:

"Get over it or get out. Pretty simple, princess."

[Jarv]

standard rote response by you when I one up you.

again though, if you fit a certain profile, would you like to be seen as likely guilty just because you fit a profile?

Profiling happens all of the time. For example I started a company 7 years ago, my ex-wife had told me she got a minority loan to start hers so I looked into it.

I was curious how she got the loan since she is Caucasian (As am I) and I found out that that women are considered minorities, which I thought was curious since they are more women then Men in the US ?

So, in looking at who was eledgeable for the loan, I found it was much easier to find out who wasn't...Me...(Caucasian male). Everyone else was eledgeable.

So yes, I have been profiled.

[DFWJC]

Your list of 1 -13 does have some value---it reminds us that terrorism has been around for decades and has crossed all politcal lines.

However, you kind of blew your credibilty with the anti- diatribe. Good grief, man....if there was an anti-Daily Kos web site (opposite-but-equal), that litany would be posted there front and center.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Profiling happens all of the time. For example I started a company 7 years ago, my ex-wife had told me she got a minority loan to start hers so I looked into it.

I was curious how she got the loan since she is Caucasian (As am I) and I found out that that women are considered minorities, which I thought was curious since they are more women then Men in the US ?

So, in looking at who was eledgeable for the loan, I found it was much easier to find out who wasn't...Me...(Caucasian male). Everyone else was eledgeable.

So yes, I have been profiled.

They are not women...they are evil creatures put onto this earth to torment us and beguile us.:p:

[Jarv]

They are not women...they are evil creatures put onto this earth to torment us and beguile us.:p:

Lifes a b!tch, then you marry one :)

[Seven]

Yeah that was mentioned.

However if you go by strictly PHYSICAL profiling then he fits: young Middle Eastern Male.

Um, Burm. They call that Racial Profiling.

[burmafrd]

No I call it physical profiling since that is your PHYSICAL appearence.
AND we SHOULD tell the PC idiots to stick it since it works.

[BrAinPaiNt]

No I call it physical profiling since that is your PHYSICAL appearence.
AND we SHOULD tell the PC idiots to stick it since it works.

Look if you want to profile those people that fit that description due to their RACE...than so be it. But let's not fart and try to tell people it is really perfume.

[burmafrd]

So you want to focus on RACE. Fine for you. If you want. All I care about is if their appearence matches the profile.

[BrAinPaiNt]

So you want to focus on RACE. Fine for you. If you want. All I care about is if their appearence matches the profile.

Once again it is due to their race that must fit the appearance you are talking about. Talk about Spin.

Hey if you want to do that, seriously that is your deal. Just don't try to lie and bs about it. Like trying to put a dress and lipstick on a male redskins fan and try to pass it off as a hot woman. :p:

[burmafrd]

I think focusing on RACE is the stupid part. What do they look like= that is what matters. This whole RACE BS is just political correctness run amuck.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I think focusing on RACE is the stupid part. What do they look like= that is what matters. This whole RACE BS is just political correctness run amuck.

But you are being silly. Why do you think they LOOK like they do...because it is racial qualities to most.

You put a white man, Asian, a black man, and someone from the middle east.

Is the white man, Asian and black man going to have the same characteristics as the man from the middle east?

Come on...quit putting the lipstick on the pig and call it what it is. Racial Profiling to the T and you can put a layer of makup on that pig thicker than tammy baker ever wore and it would still be doing the same thing.

As I stated before, if that is what you want...so be it, but don't try to weasel your way out of it with those lame lines.

[Maikeru-sama]

More crapola from the extremists as usual.

Also, a very detailed list can be compiled denoting the terroristic activities of every race.

I wonder if Bumafrd would be willing to start profiling members of his own race?

[The30YardSlant]

More crapola from the extremists as usual.

Also, a very detailed list can be compiled denoting the terroristic activities of every race.

Not, it cannot

When was the last time a non-Muslim or non-Arab committed a very destructive, deadly and public terrorist act? It's been almost 15 years, when Timothy Mcveigh blew up the federal building in Okalahoma City.

Not every Muslim/Arab is a terrorist, but almost every terrorist is Islamic/Arabic. That's just a fact. No way around it. A young arabic male is more likely to blow something up than an old white woman, and yet we continue to try and be PC by pulling the latter out of line at the airport just as often as the former. If white christian males started blowing up cars and buildings all over the world, no, I would have zero problem being profiled and searched because of it. If it is in the interest of my safety and that of those around me, pull me out of line, but don't do it just to try and hide what we are ALL thinking but afraid to say.

If you actually go out and talk with Americans of Arab descent, many have no problem being profiled because they know that statistically that is the safest way to go about doing things. They don't want to be killed by a terrorist act any more than you or I do.

[hank2k]

Not, it cannot

When was the last time a non-Muslim or non-Arab committed a very destructive, deadly and public terrorist act? It's been almost 15 years, when Timothy Mcveigh blew up the federal building in Okalahoma City.

Not every Muslim/Arab is a terrorist, but almost every terrorist is Islamic/Arabic. That's just a fact. No way around it. A young arabic male is more likely to blow something up than an old white woman, and yet we continue to try and be PC by pulling the latter out of line at the airport just as often as the former. If white christian males started blowing up cars and buildings all over the world, no, I would have zero problem being profiled and searched because of it. If it is in the interest of my safety and that of those around me, pull me out of line, but don't do it just to try and hide what we are ALL thinking but afraid to say.



If you actually go out and talk with Americans of Arab descent, many have no problem being profiled because they know that statistically that is the safest way to go about doing things. They don't want to be killed by a terrorist act any more than you or I do.

Statistically speaking, most white collar crimes as well as most internet predator crimes are committed by white people, so would you like the police showing up at your house or business to look at your computer just because youre white?

The fallacy in your argument is that youre not taking into account the percentage of Muslims who commit terrorist acts relative to their population on earth. Its infinitisinally small given that 22% of the worlds population is Muslim.

Racial profiling doesnt work, behavior profiling is another matter tho.

[The30YardSlant]

Statistically speaking, most white collar crimes as well as most internet predator crimes are committed by white people, so would you like the police showing up at your house or business to look at your computer just because youre white?

The two are not comparable. Whereas internet predators are sparse and private, terrorists are very densely packed into the middle east and are very, very public in their actions. Horrible analogy.

The fallacy in your argument is that youre not taking into account the percentage of Muslims who commit terrorist acts relative to their population on earth. Its infinitisinally small given that 22% of the worlds population is Muslim.

It's estimated that about 5% of the the Islamic population (That's over 50,000,000 people) will either aid a terrorist act or fund terrorist actions at some point in their lives, and that makes up about 97% of all terrorist activity on the planet. Considering that the vast majority of Muslims are arabic, well, you get the idea. I promise you there are not 50,000,000 internet predators in the world, and a far lower percentage of them are white than percentage of terrorists who are Arab.

Racial profiling doesnt work, behavior profiling is another matter tho.

Sure it does, and people use it every damn day. The fact is, stereotypes don't just pop out of thin air. What we as a society are afraid to acknowledge is that stereotypes ARE often very, very close to reality. African-American males are exceptionally crime prone. Mexicans have the lowest employment rate and literacy rate of any race in this country. Native Americans own a arseload of casinos. People joke about all these things everyday and yet what you have to realize is, all are true. And just like they are true, it is true that every single one of the 9/11 hijackers was an Arabic Muslim. It's true that Arabic Muslims are the only group of people routinely in the news for killing innocent people in large quantities in the name of religion. It's true that the vast majority of world terrorism is committed by Arabic men aged 18-40 who practice some form of Islam.

Profiling DOES work. You can PROFILE without taking away someone's God given or constitutional rights. Pulling you out of line for a search because you are a young arabic male who is paying in cash is not violating your rights in any way. If you are innocent, you have nothing to hide and nothing will come of it.

[SultanOfSix]

Considering that the vast majority of Muslims are arabic, well, you get the idea. I promise you there are not 50,000,000 internet predators in the world, and a far lower percentage of them are white than percentage of terrorists who are Arab.


This is factually incorrect. The vast majority of Muslims are NOT Arab. In fact, Arabs form a minority of the Muslim population. So, there goes that theory, which sits on the pile of dung with the "30 yard slant".

[Mavs Man]

What is this Book of Revelations that you speak of?

It is the Book of Revelation, singular.

Sorry, pet peave of mine. Carry on.

[Maikeru-sama]

Not, it cannot

When was the last time a non-Muslim or non-Arab committed a very destructive, deadly and public terrorist act? It's been almost 15 years, when Timothy Mcveigh blew up the federal building in Okalahoma City.


You are extremely ignorant if you think Arabs are the only group of people that committ "terrorist acts".

I love how conveniently skip over all the school and work place shootings very common in the United States.

But hey, I guess if a guy kills several people with a gun as opposed to an airplane he isn't considered a terrorist :rolleyes: .

[The30YardSlant]

This is factually incorrect. The vast majority of Muslims are NOT Arab. In fact, Arabs form a minority of the Muslim population. So, there goes that theory, which sits on the pile of dung with the "30 yard slant".

The majority of Muslims are of Middle Eastern desent. "Arabic" is the term used to typically describe such individuals.

The point I was trying to make is that the majority of Muslims look like the terrorists who like to blow stuff up in the name of Allah

[The30YardSlant]

You are extremely ignorant if you think Arabs are the only group of people that committ "terrorist acts".

I love how conveniently skip over all the school and work place shootings very common in the United States.

But hey, I guess if a guy kills several people with a gun as opposed to an airplane he isn't considered a terrorist :rolleyes: .

No, school shootings by kids who were picked on and adults killing thousands every year in the name of Allah are not the same.

[SultanOfSix]

The majority of Muslims are of Middle Eastern desent. "Arabic" is the term used to typically describe such individuals.

No they aren't. Apparently you suffer from reading comprehension problems or didn't read what I just wrote.

"Arabic" is either used to describe a certain group people with common "Semitic" origins, or those who speak "Arabic" as a primary language (according to Arabs themselves).

The point I was trying to make is that the majority of Muslims look like the terrorists who like to blow stuff up in the name of Allah

The majority of Muslims look like terrorists only to ignorant and biased people like yourself.

And "Allah" is the word used for "God" by "Arabic" Christians, including those who reside in Palestian terroritories and Egypt, and "Arabic" Jews.

[BrAinPaiNt]

No they aren't. Apparently you suffer from reading comprehension problems or didn't read what I just wrote.

"Arabic" is either used to describe a certain group people with common "Semitic" origins, or those who speak "Arabic" as a primary language (according to Arabs themselves).



The majority of Muslims look like terrorists only to ignorant and biased people like yourself.

And "Allah" is the word used for "God" by "Arabic" Christians, including those who reside in Palestian terroritories and Egypt, and "Arabic" Jews.

Sometimes it is not worth your time.

This guy has demonstrated some qualities that make it known to anyone paying attention that he is not worth arguing with and has some issues with people not like him.

[hank2k]

Sometimes it is not worth your time.

This guy has demonstrated some qualities that make it known to anyone paying attention that he is not worth arguing with and has some issues with people not like him.


Good point.

In reading over a few of his ignorant posts I see what you mean.

[zrinkill]

This guy has demonstrated some qualities that make it known to anyone paying attention that he is not worth arguing with and has some issues with people not like him.

I have never noticed any racism about HeavyHitta31..... and I pay attention.

Now on to the Original Topic ....

Its Garbage to try and compare Obama to a terrorist .... stupid and ineffective mudslinging ..... Republican politics at its worse.

Its as stupid as the crap brought up by liberals about McCain, Bush, and Reagan.

I want Obama brought to task about his voting record and his socialist policies .....

Making false claims about him and questioning his patriotism, humanity, and manhood will only help his campaign in the long run.

I am so sick of both sides doing this and then acting astonished when they get it tossed back at them.

[hank2k]

I have never noticed any racism about HeavyHitta31..... and I pay attention.

Now on to the Original Topic ....

Its Garbage to try and compare Obama to a terrorist .... stupid and ineffective mudslinging ..... Republican politics at its worse.

Its as stupid as the crap brought up by liberals about McCain, Bush, and Reagan.

I want Obama brought to task about his voting record and his socialist policies .....

Making false claims about him and questioning his patriotism, humanity, and manhood will only help his campaign in the long run.

I am so sick of both sides doing this and then acting astonished when they get it tossed back at them.


Z you make an excellent point and I agree that I would like to see the focus more on the substance of a candidates ideas than this other nonsense but...

the Republicans cannot win on this stuff. That is why they sling mud, race bait, and call into question a candidates patriotism, because they know they cant win on ideas. If they could they would.

This is about to become the muddiest presedential election in the nations history but fortunately I think the Dems have learned to stop being wusses and sling it right back.

The net result (I hope)will be a public backlash against dirty campaigning which will benefit Obama when the focus gets put back on ideas and new direction for this country.

[Doomsday101]

I have never noticed any racism about HeavyHitta31..... and I pay attention.

Now on to the Original Topic ....

Its Garbage to try and compare Obama to a terrorist .... stupid and ineffective mudslinging ..... Republican politics at its worse.

Its as stupid as the crap brought up by liberals about McCain, Bush, and Reagan.

I want Obama brought to task about his voting record and his socialist policies .....

Making false claims about him and questioning his patriotism, humanity, and manhood will only help his campaign in the long run.

I am so sick of both sides doing this and then acting astonished when they get it tossed back at them.

I agree. Even if Obama was Muslim (I know he is not!!!) who cares. My issues with Obama are related to his ideals and proposed policy. For all I know he may be a very good man but I disagree with his politics

[Maikeru-sama]

Sometimes it is not worth your time.

This guy has demonstrated some qualities that make it known to anyone paying attention that he is not worth arguing with and has some issues with people not like him.

:hammer:

[Maikeru-sama]

I have never noticed any racism about HeavyHitta31..... and I pay attention.


That's because on at least 3 occassions that I know of, his racists posts were deleted.

[The30YardSlant]

Sometimes it is not worth your time.

This guy has demonstrated some qualities that make it known to anyone paying attention that he is not worth arguing with and has some issues with people not like him.

BP, you are a quality moderator, but your constant hyperbole and sweeping generalizations grow tiresome sometimes.

I have issues with people who wish to cause me, my family, and my country harm. If noting that many of said people are of Islamic/Arabic origin makes me a racist, then so be it.

Like I said before, I would have no problem stereotyping whites if it were for the good of this country. It's certainly been done before. White southerners were stereotyped and held back from numerous opportunities after the civil war, and with good reason. Sometimes, political correctness has to take a backseat to national security.

[The30YardSlant]

That's because on at least 3 occassions that I know of, his racists posts were deleted.

I have never posted anything racist here or anywhere else. Never. Not once. Just because something I say may sting or hit you on a personal level doesnt make it racist.

[Bach]

I have never posted anything racist here or anywhere else. Never. Not once. Just because something I say may sting or hit you on a personal level doesnt make it racist.

You should create a website to counter these accusations.

[zrinkill]

the Republicans cannot win on this stuff. That is why they sling mud, race bait, and call into question a candidates patriotism, because they know they cant win on ideas. If they could they would.

This is about to become the muddiest presedential election in the nations history but fortunately I think the Dems have learned to stop being wusses and sling it right back.

The net result (I hope)will be a public backlash against dirty campaigning which will benefit Obama when the focus gets put back on ideas and new direction for this country.

You are honestly trying to claim that the Liberal Dems do not sling mud as much as the Elitist Repubs?

Give me a break.

Both sides do it equally ...... each sides followers only notice when its done to their side.

I think people get caught so much up in their arguments with the other side that they lose perspective on these politicians.

When it comes down to it ..... they are ALL just used car salesman with a lust to obtain power.

The trick is to vote for the one who's ambition will further the policies you want done.

But never lose sight of the fact that they are never doing it for your benefit ...... only their own.

[zrinkill]

I have never posted anything racist here or anywhere else. Never. Not once. Just because something I say may sting or hit you on a personal level doesnt make it racist.

I believe you

Being called a racist undeservedly is usually a way to quiet someone who you do not agree with.

Which is exactly what some are doing to Obama ...... have been doing it to Bush for years ..... Did it to Reagan in the past .....

Spike Lee has made a career out of it ..... till he ran into the "man with no name " :laugh2:

[Mavs Man]

Spike Lee has made a career out of it ..... till he ran into the "man with no name " :laugh2:

I like several of Spike Lee's films, but his act does get tiresome.

And that was an interesting exchange that he and Dirty Harry had.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I like several of Spike Lee's films, but his act does get tiresome.

And that was an interesting exchange that he and Dirty Harry had.

Spike indeed brings up racial issues.
However he has also brought up racial issues among blacks with his movie School Daze which is quite interesting.

Concerning the recent thing with him and Clint.

It is curious that if 19 black soldiers were highly decorated, why not ONE black soldier, even in the background as an extra, was in it.

My take is that it was NOT racially motivated. They were just making a movie and did not research that aspect as much as they researched the main battles and characters.