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DallasCowpoke
07-29-2008, 04:22 PM
Neither one of these were ever a big player for me, but I surely spent $$$ in both. S-n-A plenty in the 70's, especially for big functions, and Bennigan's as one of those Fri/Sat night "watering hole" stops.

I will miss S-n-A's salad bar. $7.50 for a big 2-go box and a really nice selection.
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Bennigan's, Steak & Ale Close, File for Bankruptcy Protection (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121734771456393641.html?mod=googlenews_wsj)

By JEFFREY MCCRACKEN and JANET ADAMY
July 29, 2008 12:47 p.m.

National restaurant chains Bennigan's and Steak & Ale have closed their doors and filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection, shuttering more than 300 locations and letting go of thousands of employees.

It is one of the country's largest restaurant bankruptcies and eliminates two sit-down chains that have been part of the casual-dining landscape for decades. The chains will liquidate and aren't likely to re-open.

Late Monday, managers at Bennigan's and Steak & Ale were told not to open restaurants the next day, according to two people familiar with the matter. Employees were told there wouldn't be enough money to pay them for the rest of the week, these people said.

Leah Templeton, a spokeswoman for the company, said in an email that the companies that filed bankruptcy cases are popularly known as Steak & Ale, Bennigan's and Tavern restaurants. She said that not all stores using these trade names have filed bankruptcy, and that stores operated by franchisees aren't named as debtors in these filings. She said the filing doesn't include the company's Ponderosa and Bonanza restaurants, which operate under Metromedia Steakhouses Company L.P.

The pub-themed Bennigan's had 310 restaurants in 32 states. It was founded in 1976. It is heavily concentrated in states like Texas, Illinois and Michigan. It posted U.S. sales of $542 million in 2007, according to Technomic Inc., a food-industry research and consulting firm.

The restaurant chains are owned and managed by Plano-based Metromedia Restaurant Group, a unit of billionaire John Kluge's Metromedia empire.

Metromedia also manages Bonanza, Ponderosa and 29 Degrees and Southlake Tavern. The latter two also are closing. 29 Degrees opened in March 2007.

Metromedia Restaurant Group earlier this year violated several terms of a lending agreement with GE Capital Solutions. It had been in negotiations with lenders for months to stave off the filing, while closing some stores and looking for a buyer, said two people involved in the matter.

The filing is the most extreme sign yet of how midpriced sit-down restaurants are undergoing one of their worst periods in decades. High ingredient and labor costs are eating into profits, and several years of rapid expansion by bar and grill chains has left a glut of locations in the market. Pressures on consumer spending like high gasoline prices and dwindling home values have prompted consumers to eat out less often or switch to cheaper fast-food meals.

Earlier this year, the parent companies of the Bakers Square, Village Inn and Old Country Buffet filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, citing falling sales and rising food costs. A host of other chains -- from Outback Steakhouse to Ruby Tuesday -- are also struggling.

Metromedia has about 750 company and franchised restaurant sites in more than 40 states and outside the U.S., according to its Web site. Its annual U.S. sales are estimated at $1 billion.

Mr. Kluge, a 93-year-old German immigrant with an estimated worth of $9.5 billion, originally bought Bonanza and Ponderosa in the 1980s, later adding the Bennigan's Grill & Tavern and Steak & Ale chains into one umbrella company. Mr. Kluge is chairman, CEO and president of holding company Metromedia Co.

Metromedia's steak houses -- Ponderosa, Bonanza and Steak & Ale -- are concentrated in states including Ohio, Indiana and Pennsylvania. It posted 2007 U.S. sales of $388 million from 370 sites.

Yeagermeister
07-29-2008, 04:30 PM
I have eaten in both and neither are very good.

DallasCowpoke
07-29-2008, 04:48 PM
I have eaten in both and neither are very good.

No argument here. Although, they both did have their moment's in the sun, if you will.

There was a time especially in this state, where you couldn't drive 5 blocks w/o running into one or the other.

Some of the corner real estate, especially a few of the Bennigan's sit on, here in Dallas, are the highest per sq ft in the metroplex.

REDVOLUTION
07-29-2008, 05:04 PM
I have eaten in both and neither are very good.


Yah... agreed... except my very first time was good at Steak and Ale.... 3 or 4 times after... things changed... steak was different

Yeagermeister
07-29-2008, 05:05 PM
Yah... agreed... except my very first time was good at Steak and Ale.... 3 or 4 times after... things changed... steak was different

I have eaten there maybe twice and I felt sick for several days each time.

REDVOLUTION
07-29-2008, 05:15 PM
I have eaten there maybe twice and I felt sick for several days each time.

from wikipedia

History

Steak and Ale the 62-unit casual-dining division of Metromedia Restaurant Group, was founded as an independent restaurant chain in Dallas, Texas on February, 26, 1966 by Norman Brinker (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Norman_Brinker&action=edit&redlink=1). It remained an independent chain until 1976 when Pillsbury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillsbury) purchased it and folded it into its restaurant group with Burger King (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burger_King), Bennigan's and other stores. In 1982 Pillsbury spun the company and Bennigan's into the independent S&A Restaurant Corp. Steak and Ale grew as one of the first chain dinnerhouses to its height in the late 1980s with 280 branches, before competition the brand helped inspire eroded its market presence. In 1988, Metromedia purchased the company. In 1993 the company was merged with the Metromedia Steak Houses chain's Bonanza and Ponderosa, which now runs all three chains under the S&A Restaurant Group brand.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_and_Ale#cite_note-answers-0)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_and_Ale#cite_note-answers-0)
On July 29, 2008, all Steak and Ale restaurants across the country did not open due to a Chapter 7 Bankruptcy filing by parent company S&A Restaurant Corp. of Plano, Texas. S&A is owned by MetroMedia which also owns Ponderosa and Bonanza Steakhouse chains. Also affected by this closing is the Bennigan's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bennigan%27s) restaurant chain, also owned by S&A Restaurant Corp. [2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_and_Ale#cite_note-1) Franchised restaurants are not affected by this closure. (1)


That explains it... my first time was in the late 80's... must have been before they franchised it....

theogt
07-29-2008, 05:16 PM
Disgusting food at both.

bbgun
07-29-2008, 06:22 PM
Butters will be so disappointed.

WoodysGirl
07-29-2008, 06:48 PM
Bennigan's was ok if you're not expecting fine dining. Like Poke said, it was great as a watering hole. They had the two happy hour thing going. 5-7 and 9-11. Loved that.

Yeagermeister
07-29-2008, 06:52 PM
Bennigan's was ok if you're not expecting fine dining. Like Poke said, it was great as a watering hole. They had the two happy hour thing going. 5-7 and 9-11. Loved that.

Do you stay for both or leave and come back? :laugh1:

PosterChild
07-29-2008, 06:53 PM
Although I have not eaten there in years I recall S/A had a great dessert, I think it was called a Tumbleweed..ice cream flavored with liqueurs. For some reason they took it off the menu but it was still available for the axing.

WoodysGirl
07-29-2008, 06:58 PM
Do you stay for both or leave and come back? :laugh1:
Depends on the goal of the night... lol

REDVOLUTION
07-29-2008, 06:58 PM
Bennigan's was ok if you're not expecting fine dining. Like Poke said, it was great as a watering hole. They had the two happy hour thing going. 5-7 and 9-11. Loved that.

So the food wasnt that edible? lol


Do you stay for both or leave and come back? :laugh1:

:lmao:



Although I have not eaten there in years I recall S/A had a great dessert, I think it was called a Tumbleweed..ice cream flavored with liqueurs. For some reason they took it off the menu but it was still available for the axing.


Why is the name not wetting my whistle? :laugh1:

Cajuncowboy
07-29-2008, 07:12 PM
Maybe it's me but Bennigans had a sandwich called the Monte cristo. It was a deep fried Ham and cheese sandwich that was covered with powdered surgar and had raspberry dipping sauce.

It sounds disgusting but man was it good.

WoodysGirl
07-29-2008, 07:25 PM
Maybe it's me but Bennigans had a sandwich called the Monte cristo. It was a deep fried Ham and cheese sandwich that was covered with powdered surgar and had raspberry dipping sauce.

It sounds disgusting but man was it good.
I had to take the ham out, but you're right that was the best and most fattening thing on their menu.

Cajuncowboy
07-29-2008, 07:30 PM
I had to take the ham out, but you're right that was the best and most fattening thing on their menu.

You're Jewish? :D


The first time I had it I was hooked. Ham and all.

BTW, I make it at home occasionally as well. My wife hates for me do it though.

To which I say, "too bad!"

PosterChild
07-29-2008, 07:43 PM
So the food wasnt that edible? lol




:lmao:






Why is the name not wetting my whistle? :laugh1:

But wait, even D Magazine said:

One item not on the menu is a Tumbleweed, a thick ice cream-based drink spiked with several liqueurs - it's delicious for dessert. It's not available at the Lemmon and Inwood locations, which is another good reason to avoid them.

http://http://www.dmagazine.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?sid=1510E4E8D44C4749B151C8409649F5AF&nm=Archives&type=MultiPublishing&mod=PublishingTitles&mid=7155F7796F354F21B1183937D847D6DF&AudId=29CB3DCAC7E94A08B642EC371FE6E70B&tier=4&id=BD6D09DA7CD74B97B7BCCEFF6A7D7B1C

REDVOLUTION
07-29-2008, 07:46 PM
Maybe it's me but Bennigans had a sandwich called the Monte cristo. It was a deep fried Ham and cheese sandwich that was covered with powdered surgar and had raspberry dipping sauce.

It sounds disgusting but man was it good.

I think I saw it pulsing on someone else's plate when I was there. :laugh1:



But wait, even D Magazine said:

One item not on the menu is a Tumbleweed, a thick ice cream-based drink spiked with several liqueurs - it's delicious for dessert. It's not available at the Lemmon and Inwood locations, which is another good reason to avoid them.


Rachel Ray - Yum-o!
lol

big dog cowboy
07-29-2008, 08:37 PM
I think I saw it pulsing on someone else's plate when I was there. :laugh1:
:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

fredp22
07-29-2008, 08:57 PM
Steak and Ale.....if I remember correctly this is the second time they are going under. I think it was originally opened as Steak and Brew back in the 60's with the great idea of offering steak and all the beer you can drink for x amount (forgot the amount). They quickly found out that wasnt a good idea-declared banckruptcy and reopened as Steak and Ale.

AmarilloCowboyFan
07-30-2008, 07:57 AM
OMG, where will I go to get hammered on St. Patty's day?

DallasCowpoke
07-30-2008, 01:19 PM
Steak and Ale.....if I remember correctly this is the second time they are going under. I think it was originally opened as Steak and Brew back in the 60's with the great idea of offering steak and all the beer you can drink for x amount (forgot the amount). They quickly found out that wasnt a good idea-declared banckruptcy and reopened as Steak and Ale.

That is not correct.