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dthahn
11-07-2004, 08:13 PM
I know Parcells wants to commit to the run and control the ball and the clock, but he's making a critical error in thinking that E. George is the RB to do it. On his best day George can't break the 3.5 yards per carry plateau and gets stuffed behind the line of scrimmage more often than I care to count. It's is time to start ReShard Lee who is the only back besides R. Anderson that can consistently dart through the line, evade tacklers, and average over 5 yards per carry. If Parcells is worried about his blocking the blitz then let him practice and develop his blocking skills by giving him more practice and playing time.

Parcells' loyalty to E. George is costing this team and time has just about run out. What have we got to lose at this point anyway. Let's see what Lee can do with a bigger workload. :confused:

Fletch
11-07-2004, 08:17 PM
Yep! Time to stop worrying about hurting Eddie's veteran feelings and get the better, younger RB in the game. We saw what a young, second year RB in Rudi Johnson could do. If Parcells put ReShard in the game for 15 to 20 carries a game, we'd be in every game in my humble opinion.

wileedog
11-07-2004, 08:28 PM
Yep! Time to stop worrying about hurting Eddie's veteran feelings and get the better, younger RB in the game. We saw what a young, second year RB in Rudi Johnson could do. If Parcells put ReShard in the game for 15 to 20 carries a game, we'd be in every game in my humble opinion.

Substitute the name Troy Hambrick for Rashard Lee and I've heard this argument before.

I'm not saying I wouldn't rather see Lee in than Eddie - I would - but please feel free to point out all of the undrafted FA RBs who have gone on to tear up the league, or even be a significant starter.

Go ahead and list them, I'll wait.



All I'm saying is temper your expectations. We already had a guy recently who looked All-World as a backup, only to become a friggin joke with regular playing time. While I'm not saying that will necessarily be the case with Lee, just don't expect the 2nd coming of Terrel Davis, only lower.

Nors
11-07-2004, 08:34 PM
They never gave George the chance.......


And we lost...........

Rack Bauer
11-07-2004, 08:45 PM
They never gave George the chance.......


And we lost...........


WHAT?! He had like 5 carries just in the first drive. And he SUCKED. There were holes there and he wasn't getting to them. BP's only mistake in that regard was replacing EG with RA instead of RL.

Zman5
11-07-2004, 09:36 PM
Substitute the name Troy Hambrick for Rashard Lee and I've heard this argument before.

I'm not saying I wouldn't rather see Lee in than Eddie - I would - but please feel free to point out all of the undrafted FA RBs who have gone on to tear up the league, or even be a significant starter.

Go ahead and list them, I'll wait.



All I'm saying is temper your expectations. We already had a guy recently who looked All-World as a backup, only to become a friggin joke with regular playing time. While I'm not saying that will necessarily be the case with Lee, just don't expect the 2nd coming of Terrel Davis, only lower.

Priest Homes was a UFA who backed up J. Lewis in Baltimore before he got his chance to start in KC.

He's not doing too bad.

Juke99
11-07-2004, 09:45 PM
They never gave George the chance.......


And we lost...........


Nope...sorry Nors, just not the case...I noted each one of George's carries..

On four of his eight carries he put us into passing situations, which was exactly what he was supposed to help us avoid..

2nd and 7, he carried for 2...put is in a 3rd and 5. VT completed the pass
1st and 10, he put us in a 2nd and 8. Was pulled from the game. We ended up in a 3rd and 5, VT got sacked, fumbled the ball.
1st and 10, he put us in a 2nd and 8. VT completed the pass, Key fumbled.
1st and 10, he put us in 2nd and 10.

It's an ok philosophy but not with Eddie George runnning the ball...the problem is, he's always going to put you in passing situations because, 3 yards is 3 yards...on 2nd and 8, he'll put you in 3rd and 5....etc..

AND he's got no upside...it's not as if handing him the ball 28 times is going to get you 3 long runs and a TD...the longest run you're going to get is 20 yds...

Plus the defense cheats when he's in the game...

BUSDRIV3RDH
11-07-2004, 09:50 PM
So I'm finally getting the theme of today's post-loss...Use Eddie as the "blinders" this week to avoid the real problem...Vinny!

I agree Lee should be starting over George but I think Vinny is the biggest cancer on this team and his constant mistakes have to start being taken into account before anything. The reason why we had to abandon the run wasn't because of George, it was because of Vinny and his hairbrain f***-ups!

The guy is an epidemic loser and that's just reality. On the otherhand, George, is not.

Juke99
11-07-2004, 09:56 PM
So I'm finally getting the theme of today's post-loss...Use Eddie as the "blinders" this week to avoid the real problem...Vinny!

I agree Lee should be starting over George but I think Vinny is the biggest cancer on this team and his constant mistakes have to start being taken into account before anything. The reason why we had to abandon the run wasn't because of George, it was because of Vinny and his hairbrain f***-ups!

The guy is an epidemic loser and that's just reality. On the otherhand, George, is not.


Huh???

I've been griping about starting Henson over Testaverde all year...that doesn't change the fact that Eddie George is a waste of a roster spot..useless..brings zero upside...

mr.jameswoods
11-07-2004, 10:11 PM
What's sad is this thread should have been posted after the loss to the Vikings in week one. If you guys couldn't see the writing on the wall back then with Eddie George, I don't know what to tell you.

Hollywood Henderson
11-07-2004, 10:23 PM
Some of us knew the "Writing on the wall" before EG was even signed...

Yes he sucks...almost as much as mr. NEVER get a turnover zimmy/squiggy WUSS!

As far as Vinny goes...He is only the best QB we have had since Troy...You give him a freakin decent RB with more speed them Mike Irvin's grandma and who knows how our offense would fair?

Juke99
11-07-2004, 10:25 PM
What's sad is this thread should have been posted after the loss to the Vikings in week one. If you guys couldn't see the writing on the wall back then with Eddie George, I don't know what to tell you.


I'm not sure what this means....I'll pretty much guarantee ya that people were complaining about Eddie George before the Viking game...me being one..

Big Country
11-07-2004, 10:36 PM
Substitute the name Troy Hambrick for Rashard Lee and I've heard this argument before.

I'm not saying I wouldn't rather see Lee in than Eddie - I would - but please feel free to point out all of the undrafted FA RBs who have gone on to tear up the league, or even be a significant starter.

Go ahead and list them, I'll wait.



All I'm saying is temper your expectations. We already had a guy recently who looked All-World as a backup, only to become a friggin joke with regular playing time. While I'm not saying that will necessarily be the case with Lee, just don't expect the 2nd coming of Terrel Davis, only lower.

An undrafted FA RB now holds the NFL record for rushing touchdowns in a season. He gave way to Ricky Williams in college, and he gave way to Jamal Lewis in Baltimore... He now plays lights out in KC... Hint, Hint :eek:

StarHead69
11-08-2004, 02:06 AM
Here is my conspiracy theory as to why Lee isn't getting the call off the bench.


Julius Jones will be returning to the team very soon. If Lee was given a meaningful amount of carries and actually proved himself to be a good player... then we would have a RB controversey on our hands. Jones and Parcells really like Julius and think he is the future for us in the backfield. They probably think he will hit the field with a bang and make them look like draft gurus in the process.

Eddie and Richie must really kick some in practice to keep this young guy with actual upside on the bench every week.

Aussie Cowboy
11-08-2004, 05:12 AM
So what's the worst thing that can happen if R.Lee lights it up until Julius Jones returns to the team? There are plenty of teams without a RB who would trade for him at year's end. We may even end up with a 2nd or 3rd rounder in a trade. If not we keep him as a back-up to JJ next season.

FWIW, Did Lee get his yards this week in junk time or earlier in the game?

Sarge
11-08-2004, 05:13 AM
Substitute the name Troy Hambrick for Rashard Lee and I've heard this argument before.

I'm not saying I wouldn't rather see Lee in than Eddie - I would - but please feel free to point out all of the undrafted FA RBs who have gone on to tear up the league, or even be a significant starter.

Go ahead and list them, I'll wait.
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What is your point?

If you would rather see R/ Lee than E. George, you agree with the initial post. No one said Lee is the answer, just better than EG and that is plain as day.

morasp
11-08-2004, 05:36 AM
The thing about George is he doesn't block blitzs very well either. This is the second week I've watched him wander over to a blitzer and get blown back to the QB. At least Hambrick used to pick up the blittz well.

BrAinPaiNt
11-08-2004, 08:21 AM
Substitute the name Troy Hambrick for Rashard Lee and I've heard this argument before.

I'm not saying I wouldn't rather see Lee in than Eddie - I would - but please feel free to point out all of the undrafted FA RBs who have gone on to tear up the league, or even be a significant starter.

Go ahead and list them, I'll wait.



All I'm saying is temper your expectations. We already had a guy recently who looked All-World as a backup, only to become a friggin joke with regular playing time. While I'm not saying that will necessarily be the case with Lee, just don't expect the 2nd coming of Terrel Davis, only lower.


Thank you.

I am just waiting till Julius Jones gets healthy and we can see what we got.

Hell for all I care put Lee in there...then after he does just slightly better or the same as EG...then I will start laughing when I hear the same people crying for Lee to start...to start saying Lee is a bum and blah blah blah blah.

:rolleyes:

Jarv
11-08-2004, 08:32 AM
BP said the Cincy was "pinching in" the defense stopping us from running inside. Hmm... So whats stopping us then from using Lee as an outside threat ? This game was poorly managed from a coaching standpoint.

Yakuza Rich
11-08-2004, 08:35 AM
but please feel free to point out all of the undrafted FA RBs who have gone on to tear up the league, or even be a significant starter

Priest Holmes.


Rich.............................

wileedog
11-08-2004, 08:43 AM
Priest Holmes.


Rich.............................


Yeah, ok, I forgot about Holmes. Sue me. :p

That's 1.

My point still stands that in Emmit's last year everyone was clamoring to see more of T-Ham as he posted a 5+ YPC average. Yet when he got the stating job last year he was exposed for the major suckage that he is.

I'm not arguing that Lee shouldn't be played by any means. Lord knows Eddie has proved his value or lack thereof. I'm just trying to temper expectations that we are going to be a running powerhouse by putting Lee back there. The odds are against him being another Priest Holmes.