The Tampa Bay Cowboys

[The Major]

Hello All,

Let`s see. The coaching sucks, game plans are horrible, stupid adjustments are made to game plans, play-calling is terrible, running game is non-existent and just plain bad, there`s currently ONLY 1 experienced WR and 1 good pass-catching TE healthy but the rest that are healthy are inexperienced, etc., and suck, a def. that`s horrible against the run, a def. that`s terrible against the pass, etc., etc., etc.

I`m going to emphasize that the QB had no running game against Cin. and almost the entire season up to now, had only 1 good, experienced WR and TE as a supporting cast in the skill positions the past 2 weeks.

I haven`t seen a team this bad play this poorly since some of those TB teams that VT was on. In fact, some of them had a better supporting cast around the QB at the skill positions than Dal. currently does. Thus, they were actually better than this current Dal. team which is being forced to play certain inexperienced, bad, etc., players because of injuries, trades, etc.

It`s worth noting here that VT had several dropped passes which may`ve completely turned the game around. For ex., KJ dropped at least 1 TD pass and a pass was dropped which would`ve put Dal. inside the Cin. 20. If these passes are caught, VT doesn`t throw picks the next play, etc., and everything changes!

Since TB, VT`s a 3 Time PLayoff - 2 Time Pro Bowl QB who, before the Cin. game, was having a Pro-Bowl type season. Even including this Cin. fiasco, most of Dal.`s scoring drives have still come courtesy of VT`s arm.

But in the current off. the past 2 weeks, this 3 Time PLayoff - 2 Time Pro Bowl QB who was having a Pro-Bowl type season, has had 1 good game and 1 bad game. In fact, against Cin., imho, it must be emphasized that with a complete lack of good, experienced, etc., players at the skill positions, Dal. played even worse than some of those TB teams VT was on. Thus, it`s no coincidence then that I haven`t seen VT look that bad since his TB days!

But some things apparently never change. Even in Dal., VT still appears to be the only QB in the NFL who isn`t allowed to have 1 bad game!!!

If a 3 Time PLayoff - 2 Time Pro Bowl QB who was having a Pro-Bowl type season can play that badly with almost nobody to throw to, no running game, etc., what do you honestly think a QB who`s been the no. 3 QB most of the season and hasn`t played in 3 yrs. is going to do!??? Imho, it`s Parcells and Co.`s thinking that it not only wouldn`t be a fair test of Henson to put him in now, but it`s also not worth the risk of ruining the kid`s comfidence, etc!

The fact is that Henson can`t be evaluated fairly right now to see if he really is the QB of the future because he`d be QBing a horrible Dal. team with almost no receivers to throw to, no running game, etc. All we`d find out is just how bad Henson can play on a team that`s horrible right now with almost no off. weapons, including ones for Henson to throw to. Also, putting Henson in now or, Romo for that matter, could temporarily ruin his comfidence, etc. He could very easily stink the joint out!

As a matter of fact, we`ve seen this happen before to QB`s including our very own Vinny Testaverde who`s stint running for his life half the time in TB ruined the 1st part of his career completely and some believe he still hasn`t recovered! According to some sources, VT was actually the leading rusher for TB over his 6 yr. stay there! LOL!!! If that doesn`t sum it all up... I`m sure no one here wants to take the risk of having anything even remotely similar happen to Henson or Romo!

But VT proved that he could at least play well with this supporting cast against Det. So he still gives this team the best chance to win and, if there`s any good news, it`s that VT`s historically followed up his bad games with outstanding ones. It`s never mattered who the opp. was! But we all better hope this team starts to become healthy in a hurry! Any slim hopes of making the Playoffs with most of the regulars back could be gone very soon if not already.

Of course, if this team does still somehow manage to get into the Playoffs, they might go far. This is because the only way that they can make it now is by winning at least 6 of their last 8 games. If they do, they`ll go into the Playoffs as quite possibly the hottest team to make it and on a quite a roll considering the schedule that`s ahead. But, who knows!??? If enough of the injured heal in time, then anything can happen in this parity-filled league. Lord knows, stranger things have happened!

I probably won`t post back until later in the week when everyone`s thinking more with their heads than their hearts. :)

[Eddie]

I agree that putting in Hensen will do nothing unless we upgrade the talent around him. Then again, what choice do we have?

We're 3-5. May as well be 0-8. The team is injury depleted and we're playing undrafted rookie FA's at several key spots. What team can compete in such an environment???

But regardless, we need to see what Hensen can do. Win or lose, we need to see if he's the man for 2005.

Even if he lights it up, I still think we should go after another QB in the draft or FA. If Brees is available, I say get him. If a top tier QB is available in the draft, I say get him. We can't have enough good QB's on this team.

I'm tired of the QB carousel, and I'm tired of the losing.

[Hostile]

I'll give you credit Major. I didn't think you had the stones to post and take your medicine.

I don't agree with most of your takes. "1 bad game." :rolleyes: Yeah right. Only 1.

"Vinny being the only QB in the NFL not allowed to have a bad game." You haven't been to the Redskins forum after a loss and read their reactions to Brunnell have you? He gets more flack than VT even after a win. Vinny is virtually getting a free pass around here. Not by everyone mind you. He has his critics. Me among them.

"No running game." Just an excuse. Elite QBs overcome this. I'd love to have one, but refused to give it as a crutch last year and I refuse to give it as a crutch this year.

"Dropped passes." Another excuse. Same as last year, not going to accept it either.

"Pro Bowl type season." Uh, no. The Pro Bowl is a joke, but it's not that big of a joke.

"Henson can't be evaluated right now because the team around him is bad." I really want a ROFL icon. Utterly ridiculous. In pre season players are evaluated while playing with total scrubs. :rolleyes:

I can't help but wonder about this Koolaid ya'll drink. What's in it? I don't work for the DEA and am not a narc so it's safe to tell me.

[The Major]

I'll give you credit Major. I didn't think you had the stones to post and take your medicine.

I don't agree with most of your takes. "1 bad game." :rolleyes: Yeah right. Only 1.

"Vinny being the only QB in the NFL not allowed to have a bad game." You haven't been to the Redskins forum after a loss and read their reactions to Brunnell have you? He gets more flack than VT even after a win. Vinny is virtually getting a free pass around here. Not by everyone mind you. He has his critics. Me among them.

"No running game." Just an excuse. Elite QBs overcome this. I'd love to have one, but refused to give it as a crutch last year and I refuse to give it as a crutch this year.

"Dropped passes." Another excuse. Same as last year, not going to accept it either.

"Pro Bowl type season." Uh, no. The Pro Bowl is a joke, but it's not that big of a joke.

"Henson can't be evaluated right now because the team around him is bad." I really want a ROFL icon. Utterly ridiculous. In pre season players are evaluated while playing with total scrubs. :rolleyes:

I can't help but wonder about this Koolaid ya'll drink. What's in it? I don't work for the DEA and am not a narc so it's safe to tell me.


"..."No running game." Just an excuse..."

I see you still haven`t learned the difference between a valid, justifiable reason and an excuse.

"..."Pro Bowl type season."...The Pro Bowl is a joke, but it's not that big of a joke..."

You`re right. It`s not that big of a joke because it`s not a joke at all. ;) :p :rolleyes:

"...The Pro Bowl is a joke..."

No. Imho, the game`s a joke but there`s still nothing funny, etc., about being voted to the the Pro Bowl. In fact, the players consider it a great honor.

"..."Henson can't be evaluated right now because the team around him is bad."...In pre season players are evaluated while playing with total scrubs. :rolleyes:..."

What I stated was that it would`nt be a fair evaluation and from reading thru other threads, there`s many others here who agree with me! If you actually knew what you were talking about, you`d be able to see that there`s a tremendous difference between pre-season and playing the QB pos. with only 1 good, experienced WR and pass-catching TE and with no running game. This is especially true at the speed of the game during the regular season. What you also fail to realize here is that the vast majority of the time, while playing with total scrubs in pre-season, the`re also playing against total scrubs.

The rest of your post is filled with Log. Fallacies, etc., and, therefore, will be ignored other than to point it out. ;) :p :) :D

[Hostile]

"..."No running game." Just an excuse..."

I see you still haven`t learned the difference between a valid, justifiable reason and an excuse.

"..."Pro Bowl type season."...The Pro Bowl is a joke, but it's not that big of a joke..."

You`re right. It`s not that big of a joke because it`s not a joke at all. ;) :p :rolleyes:

"...The Pro Bowl is a joke..."

No. Imho, the game`s a joke but there`s still nothing funny, etc., about being voted to the the Pro Bowl. In fact, the players consider it a great honor.

"..."Henson can't be evaluated right now because the team around him is bad."...In pre season players are evaluated while playing with total scrubs. :rolleyes:..."

What I stated was that it would`nt be a fair evaluation and from reading thru other threads, there`s many others here who agree with me! If you actually knew what you were talking about, you`d be able to see that there`s a tremendous difference between pre-season and playing the QB pos. with only 1 good, experienced WR and pass-catching TE and with no running game. This is especially true at the speed of the game during the regular season. What you also fail to realize here is that the vast majority of the time, while playing with total scrubs in pre-season, the`re also playing against total scrubs.

The rest of your post is filled with Log. Fallacies, etc., and, therefore, will be ignored other than to point it out. ;) :p :) :D
I disagree with you and your myopia, but I still give you credit. I really felt you'd go absent after this.

9 TDs, 10 INTs, 3-5 record. Yet you can still crow like a rooster about how great he has played. Of course to do it you have to place the blame on everyone else. I thought the last three year's brand of myopia was a one time thing. I guess there will always be cult like followings of mediocre players. I don't know how they start or why they keep going in the mountain of evidence facing them but they do.

Seriously. I give you credit for taking your stand. Like I said I don't agree with you at all and will most likely continue to laugh and joke about this, but I give you credit.

I'm waiting for you to tell me QBs don't completely grasp what they need to until their 2nd year in the same system. People tried so valiantly with that one last year. I kind of miss it because I have a new answer to them and their delusions.