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Chuck 54
11-08-2004, 05:20 PM
Let's see...I have to tread carefully here because no one is allowed to question Bill Parcells' ability to coach and make personel decisions because he won 2 super bowls, though they go way back to SB 21 and 25...I was just a youngster then.

Nonetheless, I predict Parcells will NOT turn this franchise around. On the contrary, I believe he'll last only through next season at best. He'll retire again, wishing he'd never come back, and the Dallas Cowboys will be no better off than before he came here.

When a coach with his credentials talks about being embarrassed by his team and his own performance, there is a problem. When a coach basically derides his team as too dumb to do things they practiced 50 times, too dumb to win games or execute, there's a problem. His ocassional acceptance of responsibility is disingenuius...he clearly does so as sarcasm. When a coach throws up his hands and claims he doesn't know what the problem is, doesn't know how to turn it around, there's a problem.

Are players supposed to play harder for a coach after a press conference like today's? Are players supposed to have faith in a coach who claims to have no idea what direction to take?

Is an owner supposed to have faith in a coach who blames injuries for part of the team's failures, injuries to an aged veteran like Woodson whose game was already going downhill and to a #2 WR that few were interested in and that we got for a late round draft pick just over a year ago and to a CB who wasn't having any success to begin with?

Parcells' arrogance is not a thing to hang one's hat on...that he would feel no need to give a viable excuse or a viable plan with which to move forward is distasteful. Even in high school, one doesn't see a coach giving as pitiful a press conference as he did today...that press conference didn't help the owner, the players, or any aspect of the team....all it did was show that BP thinks he is the center of the football universe, should never be questioned, and doesn't feel the need to provide any real insight.

That he would think Vinny's performance is soooo superior to anything Henson could provide, even in a controlled game plan, to the point that he calls changing QB's "throwing in the towel," makes me wonder if he's just a stubborn jerk who won't admit being wrong, or if Henson is truly so pathetic that he can't even play up to the inconsistant, turnover ridden level on which Vinny has played, a level that seems to be sinking lower as the season goes on.

Since the players we had last season weren't "too dumb" to get IT, one must assume that Parcells made some real bonehead personel moves, trusting the wrong players, if suddenly they can't execute his wonderful game plans and plays. He's been buying the groceries for 2 offseasons now, and he's been throwing out the unwanted spoils, so who's responsible?

Again, where are the cornerstones of this franchise? Who are the young players who will take a 10-6 team that took a step backwards this year and suddenly make it a contender next season? Has Parcells turned our last 2 drafts and free agency periods into a roster that will become much better with experience? Wasn't 2005 supposed to be the year we make a serious push? And what are we all expecting for next season now?

I believe Parcells is arrogant enough to stick it out for one more year, thinking he'll turn this around the way he did last season, and I think his past, his distant past, will afford him that luxury and the benefit of the doubt.

Sadly, I believe my beloved Dallas Cowboys will be just as bad next season as they are this season...one can only hope that this year's draft will produce more impact players than the past two. I think Parcells will have worn out his welcome with the players and with Jerry Jones by the end of next season, and I think he'll have worn himself out with the tremendous task he has created for himself due to moves made and left unmade in the past year.

I predict Parcells will retire at the end of the 2005 season, and his tenure with Dallas will not be fondly remembered unless he manages to leave us with a young, talented roster by next season's end, a roster another coach will be able to work with and add to in preparation for a rise from mediocrity.

diehard2294
11-08-2004, 05:29 PM
good post, I see the rumblings starting with them already, JJ threw troy to the wolves and you know he is itchin to see what Henson can provide. I found it funny though in BP press conference he said why start Henson" I dont want to send the message we are giving up. Then what kind of pep talk was that in today's PC . What message is he sending, were not giving up :confused:

MichaelWinicki
11-08-2004, 05:31 PM
Let's see...I have to tread carefully here because no one is allowed to question Bill Parcells' ability to coach and make personel decisions because he won 2 super bowls, though they go way back to SB 21 and 25...I was just a youngster then.

Nonetheless, I predict Parcells will NOT turn this franchise around. On the contrary, I believe he'll last only through next season at best. He'll retire again, wishing he'd never come back, and the Dallas Cowboys will be no better off than before he came here.

When a coach with his credentials talks about being embarrassed by his team and his own performance, there is a problem. When a coach basically derides his team as too dumb to do things they practiced 50 times, too dumb to win games or execute, there's a problem. His ocassional acceptance of responsibility is disingenuius...he clearly does so as sarcasm. When a coach throws up his hands and claims he doesn't know what the problem is, doesn't know how to turn it around, there's a problem.

Are players supposed to play harder for a coach after a press conference like today's? Are players supposed to have faith in a coach who claims to have no idea what direction to take?

Is an owner supposed to have faith in a coach who blames injuries for part of the team's failures, injuries to an aged veteran like Woodson whose game was already going downhill and to a #2 WR that few were interested in and that we got for a late round draft pick just over a year ago and to a CB who wasn't having any success to begin with?

Parcells' arrogance is not a thing to hang one's hat on...that he would feel no need to give a viable excuse or a viable plan with which to move forward is distasteful. Even in high school, one doesn't see a coach giving as pitiful a press conference as he did today...that press conference didn't help the owner, the players, or any aspect of the team....all it did was show that BP thinks he is the center of the football universe, should never be questioned, and doesn't feel the need to provide any real insight.

That he would think Vinny's performance is soooo superior to anything Henson could provide, even in a controlled game plan, to the point that he calls changing QB's "throwing in the towel," makes me wonder if he's just a stubborn jerk who won't admit being wrong, or if Henson is truly so pathetic that he can't even play up to the inconsistant, turnover ridden level on which Vinny has played, a level that seems to be sinking lower as the season goes on.

Since the players we had last season weren't "too dumb" to get IT, one must assume that Parcells made some real bonehead personel moves, trusting the wrong players, if suddenly they can't execute his wonderful game plans and plays. He's been buying the groceries for 2 offseasons now, and he's been throwing out the unwanted spoils, so who's responsible?

Again, where are the cornerstones of this franchise? Who are the young players who will take a 10-6 team that took a step backwards this year and suddenly make it a contender next season? Has Parcells turned our last 2 drafts and free agency periods into a roster that will become much better with experience? Wasn't 2005 supposed to be the year we make a serious push? And what are we all expecting for next season now?

I believe Parcells is arrogant enough to stick it out for one more year, thinking he'll turn this around the way he did last season, and I think his past, his distant past, will afford him that luxury and the benefit of the doubt.

Sadly, I believe my beloved Dallas Cowboys will be just as bad next season as they are this season...one can only hope that this year's draft will produce more impact players than the past two. I think Parcells will have worn out his welcome with the players and with Jerry Jones by the end of next season, and I think he'll have worn himself out with the tremendous task he has created for himself due to moves made and left unmade in the past year.

I predict Parcells will retire at the end of the 2005 season, and his tenure with Dallas will not be fondly remembered unless he manages to leave us with a young, talented roster by next season's end, a roster another coach will be able to work with and add to in preparation for a rise from mediocrity.

If he retired after 2005, I wouldn't even equat his tenure to that of Barry Switzer's.

Chuck 54
11-08-2004, 05:32 PM
good post, I see the rumblings starting with them already, JJ threw troy to the wolves and you know he is itchin to see what Henson can provide. I found it funny though in BP press conference he said why start Henson" I dont want to send the message we are giving up. Then what kind of pep talk was that in today's PC . What message is he sending, were not giving up :confused:
excellent response and insight into the PC....this guy was and maybe still is a great coach, though I don't buy it....but one thing is certain, he's not an inspiring leader.

Everyone always refers to him as a tough guy....after today's press conference, would you want to be with Parcells in a foxhole?

Chuck 54
11-08-2004, 05:34 PM
If he retired after 2005, I wouldn't even equat his tenure to that of Barry Switzer's.
And you shouldn't .... Switzer won a SB :D

Not fair, I know, but this team seemed more talented last year than this year...maybe that's just me, but we were more athletic on defense, at QB, RB, and WR.

My dream draft is still Rodrique Wright at DT and Mike Williams at WR.

MichaelWinicki
11-08-2004, 05:39 PM
And you shouldn't .... Switzer won a SB :D

Not fair, I know, but this team seemed more talented last year than this year...maybe that's just me, but we were more athletic on defense, at QB, RB, and WR.

My dream draft is still Rodrique Wright at DT and Mike Williams at WR.


That's the fact.

Others may knock Switzer on this board but he did win one and came damn close to winning another. And for that I do give him some credit.

Juke99
11-08-2004, 05:41 PM
Wayne...better you than me this time....

Great post...it's a valid opinion....that's all any of us have...opinions.

You'll get the "What you know better than Parcells?"..."It's the injuries"...etc responses...

My take on it is, we all support different players and coaches to varying degrees....BUT if you're not willing to admit that someone's performance has been bad, then you lose credibility by constantly sticking up for them.

I have had many good things to say about Parcells...in fact, I even have his book...I've always thought him to be a really bright guy...

But that doesn't mean he can't be wrong..or that he is immune to making mistakes...or that I am going to defend him to the bitter end...

I loved Jimmy Johnson...but that doesn't mean that everything he did was correct.

Parcells has had a LOUSY 2004...plain and simple.

diehard2294
11-08-2004, 05:41 PM
excellent response and insight into the PC....this guy was and maybe still is a great coach, though I don't buy it....but one thing is certain, he's not an inspiring leader.

Everyone always refers to him as a tough guy....after today's press conference, would you want to be with Parcells in a foxhole?well we all know the guy is frustrated beyond belief! because we all are and he's the coach. But people look at him for answers, and right now it doesn't appear to his admission he has any. :o

JakeCamp12
11-08-2004, 05:50 PM
Today on my ride home I listened to WFAN in NY. On the Mike and the Mad Dog show, this topic came up. Mike said that under no circumstances will Parcells leave this year. He said he will not leave Dallas until Dallas is better off then before he came. That Parcells will work harder until he has thing figured out. He also said that 2005 would be the year that Parcells loaded up and went for whatever plan he has in mind. I don't know if this guy is accurate, but he did follow Parcells when he was in NY. Just another opinion from someone outside of Texas....

Jimz31
11-08-2004, 05:52 PM
Today on my ride home I listened to WFAN in NY. On the Mike and the Mad Dog show, this topic came up. Mike said that under no circumstances will Parcells leave this year. He said he will not leave Dallas until Dallas is better off then before he came. That Parcells will work harder until he has thing figured out. He also said that 2005 would be the year that Parcells loaded up and went for whatever plan he has in mind. I don't know if this guy is accurate, but he did follow Parcells when he was in NY. Just another opinion from someone outside of Texas....

Yeah, just keep pushing it back till the next year.....and then the next year....

MichaelWinicki
11-08-2004, 05:54 PM
Yeah, just keep pushing it back till the next year.....and then the next year....


JImz it sounds like you're stuck in the land of unwanted toys.

diehard2294
11-08-2004, 05:56 PM
Today on my ride home I listened to WFAN in NY. On the Mike and the Mad Dog show, this topic came up. Mike said that under no circumstances will Parcells leave this year. He said he will not leave Dallas until Dallas is better off then before he came. That Parcells will work harder until he has thing figured out. He also said that 2005 would be the year that Parcells loaded up and went for whatever plan he has in mind. I don't know if this guy is accurate, but he did follow Parcells when he was in NY. Just another opinion from someone outside of Texas....Mike and BP are bussom buddies, if anyone has an insight it would be him. I hate hearing about 2005.

Juke99
11-08-2004, 05:58 PM
Today on my ride home I listened to WFAN in NY. On the Mike and the Mad Dog show, this topic came up. Mike said that under no circumstances will Parcells leave this year. He said he will not leave Dallas until Dallas is better off then before he came. That Parcells will work harder until he has thing figured out. He also said that 2005 would be the year that Parcells loaded up and went for whatever plan he has in mind. I don't know if this guy is accurate, but he did follow Parcells when he was in NY. Just another opinion from someone outside of Texas....


I heard the same thing...he more than followed Parcells...he is friends with him, for real...

He also said, that it was ALWAYS about the 2005 season...

Cbz40
11-08-2004, 06:01 PM
I predict Parcells will retire at the end of the 2005 season, and his tenure with Dallas will not be fondly remembered unless he manages to leave us with a young, talented roster by next season's end, a roster another coach will be able to work with and add to in preparation for a rise from mediocrity.


Great Post Mr Motley............. ;)

I disagree with one minute aspect........Losing to the beagles we are no longer a mediocre team. I would say it's a step below that discription......This team is just BAD.........period.

We have alot of holes to fill and numerous questions to be answered. This is what our beloved Cowboys have become and it's time to break out the Mr. Clean and get this mess cleaned up.

DipChit
11-08-2004, 06:18 PM
Well what was actually expected of Parcells to begin with? Does the make up of a particular team when he arrives not matter? Are the days, in the era of a win now league, of the 4 or 5 year plan totally out the window? It's not like he came to a team simply laden with talent but with no direction.

Nor did he come to a team that was the absolute dreg of the NFL. The biggest prob with this team is the absolute hideous personnel decisions that have been made the 10 years before he got here. I mean we could've had a real QB waiting in the wings.. but we didnt. We could've had a stud RB in the wings, but we didnt. We could've had a darn good corner or 2.. but we didnt. Same with pass rushers. The only true prime time players on the roster were a few years past their prime.

Was all that stuff supposed to be corrected in 18 months? Maybe Henson is the answer.. but he wasnt here 2 years before Bill arrived and he presumably wasnt ready to start from day 1. Maybe Ju Jones is the real deal back we need that got hurt right away.

I'm not tryin to schill for Bill, I'm just askin what he was supposed to do differently. Keep going with Q and T-Ham since he won 10 games with them last year? Go sign a Duce Staley instead of EG? Would that have even mattered if he planned on JJ being the guy anyway?

I just sometimes think the expectations were too high after all the puppet coaches we had. And then it was majorly compounded by the "success" last year. On one hand Bill already new those guys werent gonna be the guys to take him to the promised land for real but the minute he wouldnt be able to do the 10-6 thang again due to scheduling, personnel, injuries, his own bad decisions or whatever thered be hell to pay because all of a sudden the team is supposedly "digressing".

But is the team as a whole really digressing? I dont know about anyone else but theres finally at least a few players on this team I'm a little excited about that werent here 2 or 3 years ago. Two or 3 years ago I wouldnt've given you spit for virtually anyone on the team.

jdnalls
11-08-2004, 06:22 PM
good post, I see the rumblings starting with them already, JJ threw troy to the wolves and you know he is itchin to see what Henson can provide. I found it funny though in BP press conference he said why start Henson" I dont want to send the message we are giving up. Then what kind of pep talk was that in today's PC . What message is he sending, were not giving up :confused:
And what's the message of us playing old, ineffective players and are consistently getting our arse handed to us by poor teams?

At least we show some signs of life with the younger players rather than getting bored to death with the retirement crew.

Chuck 54
11-08-2004, 09:05 PM
Today on my ride home I listened to WFAN in NY. On the Mike and the Mad Dog show, this topic came up. Mike said that under no circumstances will Parcells leave this year. He said he will not leave Dallas until Dallas is better off then before he came. That Parcells will work harder until he has thing figured out. He also said that 2005 would be the year that Parcells loaded up and went for whatever plan he has in mind. I don't know if this guy is accurate, but he did follow Parcells when he was in NY. Just another opinion from someone outside of Texas....
I don't think his opinion is any better than mine...:)....didn't Parcells just admit that he has no plan right now, doesn't know what the problem is, doesn't know what to do next?

Hostile
11-08-2004, 09:10 PM
I heard the same thing...he more than followed Parcells...he is friends with him, for real...

He also said, that it was ALWAYS about the 2005 season...
If it really is then I'd prefer we keep on losing to get better draft picks.

[/sarcasm off]

Kittymama
11-08-2004, 09:51 PM
I think, if Parcells has another season in 2005 like this year, that he'll be the first to say he should leave for the good of the team. He came in to try to turn things around. He's never sugarcoated himself & admits when he's not cutting it. Did you want him to say today that he was doing a wonderful job & it's not his fault? He admitted that he's baffled. If he can't fix things for next year, I think he'd admit it & walk away so that Jerry could bring someone in for 2006.

That said, I doubt you'll see much of this team left next year. Yes, this has turned out to be a disappointing year. However, much as people would like to point at 2 of "Bill's guys" (Eddie & Vinny), I see that LA committed some booboos yesterday. He's not a Bill's guy--he's a long time Cowboy. I also notice that plenty other of "Bill's guys" have been pretty decent, but of course it's way more fun to dump it all on "Bill's guys". Anyway, I think we'll see a lot of new faces, & that the team will do much better next year. Again, this is a rebuilding project. It doesn't happen overnight. There are also setbacks--you might want to talk to San Diego & Pittsburgh about 2003, & to Carolina about this year.