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BrAinPaiNt
08-18-2008, 07:33 AM
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge said Sunday he thinks Republicans would accept a vice presidential candidate who supports abortion rights.

But, he said, whomever John McCain picks as a running mate should defer to McCain on the issue.

McCain opposes abortion rights, but he riled some conservatives last week when he suggested his running mate could - like Ridge - support abortion rights.

"What he was saying to the rest of the world is that we need to accept both points of view," Ridge said in a broadcast interview. "He's not judgmental about me or my belief. He just disagrees with me."

Ridge is believed to be on McCain's short list of vice presidential candidates, though it would be a major break with Republican orthodoxy for McCain to pick a running mate who supports abortion rights.

"I think that would be up to, first of all, to John to decide whether he wants a pro-choice running mate; then we would have to see how the Republican Party would rally around it," Ridge said. "At the end of the day, I think the Republican Party will be comfortable with whatever choice John makes."

McCain's statement last week was seen as an appeal to centrist voters. On Sunday, Ridge tried to soothe conservatives by stating that McCain's view on the issue would prevail in a McCain administration.

"The last time I checked, the vice president is not an independent voice. He echoes the position of the president of the United States," Ridge said. "I think it's the responsibility of the vice president. If you're unwilling or unable to do that, then I think you should defer to someone else."

Ridge was interviewed on "Fox News Sunday."

trickblue
08-18-2008, 08:52 AM
Ridge is wrong...

McCain is too liberal for most Republicans. If he fools around and picks anyone remotely resembling a moderate/liberal he can kiss this election good-bye (provided something major doesn't happen to the Obama campaign)...

The only way he can possibly win is with Conservative support. Ridge isn't going to make him any friends among that group...

zrinkill
08-18-2008, 08:53 AM
Very wrong

BrAinPaiNt
08-18-2008, 08:58 AM
Ridge is wrong...

McCain is too liberal for most Republicans. If he fools around and picks anyone remotely resembling a moderate/liberal he can kiss this election good-bye (provided something major doesn't happen to the Obama campaign)...

The only way he can possibly win is with Conservative support. Ridge isn't going to make him any friends among that group...

It seems that both Ridge and Lieberman have been floated out there as possible VP candidates.

I honestly don't think they will go with Jindal and if they do I think it could blow up in their faces.

I am not sure who the guy, or gal, will be. I am not sure he really has a good choice. I feel the same about Obama.

I think no matter who both pick there will be issues with both.

Doomsday101
08-18-2008, 09:11 AM
I don't think it will matter. When you get right down to it Abortion is not going anywhere the most that could happen is the Supream court changes to the point that Roe vs Wade is overturned. All Roe vs Wade did was take the issue out of the states hands. Bush was in office for 8 years and is firmly aginst abortion but guess what we still have abortion in this country over 1.2million a year

BrAinPaiNt
08-18-2008, 09:38 AM
I don't think it will matter. When you get right down to it Abortion is not going anywhere the most that could happen is the Supream court changes to the point that Roe vs Wade is overturned. All Roe vs Wade did was take the issue out of the states hands. Bush was in office for 8 years and is firmly aginst abortion but guess what we still have abortion in this country over 1.2million a year

I agree...it is nothing more than a political talking point at this time.

Republicans will vote republican and I would imagine the few that refused to vote for this ticked will not make the difference in the final vote.

Royal Laegotti
08-18-2008, 09:38 AM
If McCain picks Ridge then I will have to find someone else to vote for, Bob Barr or Ron Paul, in essence a throw away vote. This election is already dissapointing for a conservative and it could possibly get worse.

BrAinPaiNt
08-18-2008, 09:40 AM
If McCain picks Ridge then I will have to find someone else to vote for, Bob Barr or Ron Paul, in essence a throw away vote. This election is already dissapointing for a conservative and it could possibly get worse.

Can't vote for Paul...unless it is write in vote. Paul is the guy I would have voted for, wish he was on the libertarian ticket instead of Barr. Both have similar ideas but Paul is a long time guy and a better character guy while Barr is a more recent transform.

Doomsday101
08-18-2008, 09:45 AM
If McCain picks Ridge then I will have to find someone else to vote for, Bob Barr or Ron Paul, in essence a throw away vote. This election is already dissapointing for a conservative and it could possibly get worse.

It may be disappointing to far right conservative but I like McCain and like the fact that he will work with both sides and I say this as a moderate conservative. What I find funny is you will vote for Barr which would be a lot less conservative than even McCain.

Royal Laegotti
08-18-2008, 09:46 AM
Can't vote for Paul...unless it is write in vote. Paul is the guy I would have voted for, wish he was on the libertarian ticket instead of Barr. Both have similar ideas but Paul is a long time guy and a better character guy while Barr is a more recent transform.

I was wondering if Paul would be on the ticket or a write in. I, like you, would lean toward Paul because I don't know alot about Barr. Thanks for the info.:)

Royal Laegotti
08-18-2008, 09:49 AM
It may be disappointing to far right conservative but I like McCain and like the fact that he will work with both sides and I say this as a moderate conservative. What I find funny is you will vote for Barr which would be a lot less conservative than even McCain.

I admit to not knowing alot about Barr in my previous post. But out of curiosity in what ways is McCain more conservative then Barr, not skeptical, just curious?

BrAinPaiNt
08-18-2008, 09:55 AM
I admit to not knowing alot about Barr in my previous post. But out of curiosity in what ways is McCain more conservative then Barr, not skeptical, just curious?

He will pull up stuff from Barrs past, problem is Barr recently switched to libertarian so much of his past voting record does not match up with his current political view...that is if he really did switch his political view or just moved in order to run for president...which I really don't know which is true.

Doomsday101
08-18-2008, 09:59 AM
I admit to not knowing alot about Barr in my previous post. But out of curiosity in what ways is McCain more conservative then Barr, not skeptical, just curious?

It depends on which Bob Barr we are talking about. The one who once was a Republican and who was one of the strong advocates on the war on drugs or the Libertarian who now wants it legal? The Bob Barr who was against the same sex marriage or the libertarian who has now changed his tune? Bob Barr is adjusting his views based on that of the Libertarian party

Doomsday101
08-18-2008, 10:02 AM
He will pull up stuff from Barrs past, problem is Barr recently switched to libertarian so much of his past voting record does not match up with his current political view...that is if he really did switch his political view or just moved in order to run for president...which I really don't know which is true.

Yes I will because yes he has. He does not get put under the same microscope as McCain and Obama does but that does and Barr was a libertarian will follow that parties plate form

Royal Laegotti
08-18-2008, 10:07 AM
It depends on which Bob Barr we are talking about. The one who once was a Republican and who was one of the strong advocates on the war on drugs or the Libertarian who now wants it legal? The Bob Barr who was against the same sex marriage or the libertarian who has now changed his tune? Bob Barr is adjusting his views based on that of the Libertarian party

If he is pro same sex marriage then I won't be voting for him either, looks like Paul at this point, depending on McCain's VP choice.

BrAinPaiNt
08-18-2008, 12:35 PM
If he is pro same sex marriage then I won't be voting for him either, looks like Paul at this point, depending on McCain's VP choice.

Just so you know.

Paul thinks it is man and woman for marriage HOWEVER he also thinks that it is not the governments position to make a federal law preventing same sex marriages. He is more in line of letting it go down to states rights.

Which, if Barr is to believed on his change to the libertarian party, is about the same.

Both, as most libertarians, believe the Federal Government should not be involved and it should be done by the state level.

Viper
08-18-2008, 02:21 PM
McCain has my vote, so far. If he takes this route, I will not vote for him.

Angus
08-18-2008, 02:36 PM
If McCain picks Ridge then I will have to find someone else to vote for, Bob Barr or Ron Paul, in essence a throw away vote. This election is already dissapointing for a conservative and it could possibly get worse.

I understand. There was a similar political atmosphere when Ross Perot was the breakaway candidate from the first Bush's second term. But all those who voted for Perot (including myself) came to regret that their votes enabled the Clintons to get inside the White House.

I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face again.


:)

Doomsday101
08-18-2008, 02:54 PM
Myself I'm not voting for the VP, I'm voting for President. I don't have a problem with Lieberman, Ridge, Romney or Huckebee because in the end it all comes down to the man running the country and that is the President and hopefully John McCain.

Angus
08-18-2008, 03:03 PM
Myself I'm not voting for the VP, I'm voting for President. I don't have a problem with Lieberman, Ridge, Romney or Huckebee because in the end it all comes down to the man running the country and that is the President and hopefully John McCain.

Yes, but if McCain doesn't make it through four years, the VP takes over. I'd rather have someone of a similar viewpoint as McCain or someone even more committed to conservative ideals.

:)

Doomsday101
08-18-2008, 03:11 PM
Yes, but if McCain doesn't make it through four years, the VP takes over. I'd rather have someone of a similar viewpoint as McCain or someone even more committed to conservative ideals.

:)

I think each of these men share some of McCain viewpoints but none share them all.

ScipioCowboy
08-18-2008, 03:50 PM
If the Libertarian Party ever changes its stance on one particular issue, I would change my party affiliation faster than BP can down a whataburger hamburger.;)

utrunner07
08-18-2008, 04:00 PM
If the Libertarian Party ever changes its stance on one particular issue, I would change my party affiliation faster than BP can down a whataburger hamburger.;)

what issue?

ScipioCowboy
08-18-2008, 04:03 PM
what issue?

Rhymes with extortion.:D

Ben_n_austin
08-18-2008, 09:01 PM
I think Obama goes with Hillary and the story ends with McCain having been a mere maverick while we welcome in the new crew.

It doesn't matter who McSame picks, he's going to lose. I can feel it.

Doomsday101
08-19-2008, 08:44 AM
I think Obama goes with Hillary and the story ends with McCain having been a mere maverick while we welcome in the new crew.

It doesn't matter who McSame picks, he's going to lose. I can feel it.

It may be hemorrhoids that you are feeling. :laugh2: I don’t see Obama getting into bed with Clinton and having her undermine him let alone having Bill Clinton running around.

zrinkill
08-19-2008, 08:56 AM
Obama would be dead in months if he chooses Clinton.

Royal Laegotti
08-19-2008, 09:15 AM
It may be hemorrhoids that you are feeling. :laugh2: I don’t see Obama getting into bed with Clinton and having her undermine him let alone having Bill Clinton running around.
If Obama has 20/20 vision he dang sure won't get into bed with her.:D

Royal Laegotti
08-19-2008, 09:17 AM
Obama would be dead in months if he chooses Clinton.

Hilary must have some serious STDs?:laugh2:

zrinkill
08-19-2008, 09:22 AM
Hilary must have some serious STDs?:laugh2:


I am not even joking .....

There is no way I would be standing between that woman and the most powerful position in the world.

BrAinPaiNt
08-19-2008, 09:39 AM
Hilary must have some serious STDs?:laugh2:

I don't think he would have to worry about that...however Obama's wife might have to watch her backside.:D

Royal Laegotti
08-19-2008, 09:49 AM
I don't think he would have to worry about that...however Obama's wife might have to watch her backside.:D


:laugh2: They seem like a perfect fit.

burmafrd
08-19-2008, 09:57 AM
Obama is more then smart enough to know that putting hilary one hearbeat away from the presidency is most certain to ensure his stops- one way or another.

The man is a lefty with socialist leanings but he is pretty sharp and this is NOT EXACTLY hard to see coming.