View Full Version : McCain unsure how many houses he owns
BrAinPaiNt
08-21-2008, 11:39 AM
LINK (http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080821/pl_politico/12685)
onathan Martin, Mike Allen Thu Aug 21, 7:34 AM ET
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said in an interview Wednesday that he was uncertain how many houses he and his wife, Cindy, own.
"I think — I'll have my staff get to you," McCain told Politico in Las Cruces, N.M. "It's condominiums where — I'll have them get to you."
The correct answer is at least four, located in Arizona, California and Virginia, according to his staff. Newsweek estimated this summer that the couple owns at least seven properties.
In recent weeks, Democrats have stepped up their effort to caricature McCain as living an outlandishly rich lifestyle — a bit of payback to the GOP for portraying Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) as an elitist, and for turning the spotlight in 2004 on the five homes owned by Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) and his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry.
Pro-Obama labor groups have sent out mailers highlighting McCain’s wealth, and prominent Democrats have included references to it in comments to reporters.
Twice in the past two weeks, those Democrats have focused on McCain’s houses.
Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) told Politico’s Ben Smith that it was McCain “who wears $500 shoes, has six houses and comes from one of the richest families in his state."
And David Axelrod, Obama’s chief strategist, referred in an interview with Adam Nagourney of The New York Times to an imagined meeting of McCain strategists “on the portico of the McCain estate in Sedona — or maybe in one of his six other houses.”
The Obama campaign seized on the house issue Thursday with an ad called "Seven," claiming that's the number of houses McCain has. The ad closes with a shot of the White House and the narration: "Here's ONE house American can't afford to let John McCain move into."
McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said in response: "Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses? Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people 'cling' to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular Americans?
“The reality is that Barack Obama’s plans to raise taxes and opposition to producing more energy here at home as gas prices skyrocket show he’s completely out of touch with the concerns of average Americans.”
At a campaign appearance in Chester, Va., on Thursday morning, Obama said: "Somebody asked John McCain, 'How many houses do you have?’ And he said, I’m not sure. I’ll have to check with my staff. True quote: I’m not sure, I’ll have to check with my staff. So they asked his staff and he said, at least four. At least four! ...
"If you’re like me and you’ve got one house – or you were like the millions of people who are struggling right now to keep up with their mortgage so that they don’t lose their home — you might have a different perspective. By the way, the answer is: John McCain has seven homes. So there’s just a fundamental gap of understanding between John McCain's world and what people are going through every single day here in America."
McCain’s comments came four days after he initially told Pastor Rick Warren during a faith forum on Sunday his threshold for considering someone rich is $5 million — a careless comment he quickly corrected.
In the interview, McCain did not offer an alternate number, but had a new answer ready.
“I define rich in other ways besides income,” he said. “Some people are wealthy and rich in their lives and their children and their ability to educate them. Others are poor if they’re billionaires.”
McCain, by anyone's measure, is well-off, if you account for his wife's fortune. Cindy McCain inherited control of her father’s beer distributorship, the largest in Arizona, and has an estimated worth of more than $100 million.
Doomsday101
08-21-2008, 11:42 AM
It is not 7 it is 8 when you count the White House.
But what they heck Obama thinks we have 57 states. :lmao:
Rackat
08-21-2008, 11:46 AM
It is not 7 it is 8 when you count the White House.
But what they heck Obama thinks we have 57 states. :lmao:
Touch'e! :laugh2:
bbgun
08-21-2008, 11:50 AM
Number of houses? Three.
Obama's long-lost brothers? 17.
zrinkill
08-21-2008, 11:52 AM
I am sure McCain was worried he would say 4 and then find out her business owned a small apartment and would get called out on it.
bbgun
08-21-2008, 12:08 PM
Why is this an issue? He hasn't campaigned as an anti-millionaire candidate or as a "champion of the little guy" like that phony John Edwards. I could care less how many homes he owns so long as he pays his property taxes.
BrAinPaiNt
08-21-2008, 12:12 PM
Why is this an issue? He hasn't campaigned as an anti-millionaire candidate or as a "champion of the little guy" like that phony John Edwards. I could care less how many homes he owns so long as he pays his property taxes.
It is part of the GOP mantra against the dems during presidential elections.
Paint the dems as Elitists.
We have someone here that does not believe the Repubs candidate is an elitist.
I say they both are and this is just another example of it IMO.
Doomsday101
08-21-2008, 12:16 PM
It is part of the GOP mantra against the dems during presidential elections.
Paint the dems as Elitists.
We have someone here that does not believe the Repubs candidate is an elitist.
I say they both are and this is just another example of it IMO.
You are right. I don't think money is what makes a person an elitist and that seems to be your entire definition of what an elitist is.
BrAinPaiNt
08-21-2008, 12:18 PM
You are right. I don't think money is what makes a person an elitist and that seems to be your entire definition of what an elitist is.
Actually no it wasn't and I explained that but you did not want to hear it.
ABQCOWBOY
08-21-2008, 12:25 PM
Heck, I have four houses. I wonder if that means I can run for President?
:laugh2:
Doomsday101
08-21-2008, 12:26 PM
Actually no it wasn't and I explained that but you did not want to hear it.
I read it and disagree with it. I'm not going down this long road with you again we clearly see this from 2 different points of view. It just appears that way, this article had to do with the homes McCain owns so how does that make him an elitist because of his possessions?
BrAinPaiNt
08-21-2008, 12:26 PM
Heck, I have four houses. I wonder if that means I can run for President?
:laugh2:
I have two...One I normally stay in and the dog house I have to stay in when I get in trouble with the wife. :laugh2:
bbgun
08-21-2008, 12:32 PM
I live in an apartment, therefore I have no presidential or marital aspirations whatsoever.
ABQCOWBOY
08-21-2008, 12:35 PM
I have two...One I normally stay in and the dog house I have to stay in when I get in trouble with the wife. :laugh2:
Good point, excellent point! Hell, I may already have reached the minimum number necessary to qualify for such a post. If so, I'm going to need a running mate. What are you doing this coming fall?
:D
REDVOLUTION
08-21-2008, 12:35 PM
It is not 7 it is 8 when you count the White House.
But what they heck Obama thinks we have 57 states. :lmao:
When did we lose a few states? :D
ABQCOWBOY
08-21-2008, 12:36 PM
I live in an apartment, therefore I have no presidential or marital aspirations whatsoever.
Now here is a wise man. Heck, you should probably be President.
;)
Hostile
08-21-2008, 12:36 PM
Wow, Presidential candidates are wealthy. Who'd of ever thunk it?
BrAinPaiNt
08-21-2008, 12:37 PM
I read it and disagree with it. I'm not going down this long road with you again we clearly see this from 2 different points of view. It just appears that way, this article had to do with the homes McCain owns so how does that make him an elitist because of his possessions?
The same way that someone in a similar position during the last election cycle made the GOP label him a Elitist because he had multiple homes and married a rich wife.
Or I guess you could go a completely different angle and say they are implying that he is addle brained and can not even remember how many houses he has.
trickblue
08-21-2008, 12:39 PM
The same way that someone in a similar position during the last election cycle made the GOP label him a Elitist because he had multiple homes and married a rich wife.
Or I guess you could go a completely different angle and say they are implying that he is addle brained and can not even remember how many houses he has.
That was no label... it was true... ;)
BrAinPaiNt
08-21-2008, 12:40 PM
Wow, Presidential candidates are wealthy. Who'd of ever thunk it?
Exactly. They are wealthy and they are darn sure that they know more than others so that makes them the people who should lead others. They are also sure that since they know more than others, the other guys views are beneath them and silly in many cases.
What...the American people are unhappy about something and let it be known...most presidents just don't care because they feel they know better.
There are more than one side of the coin to the term. However the GOP has used it for years now, and still are using it, when talking about dem candidates. I find it amusing the get a little taste of their own medicine.
It still amazes me that people today do not see presidential candidates from both parties as elitists. I don't know if it is a thing where they are so ingrained with the parties mantra to use it against the other party or if they really don't see it...either way, boggles my mind.
ABQCOWBOY
08-21-2008, 12:41 PM
The same way that someone in a similar position during the last election cycle made the GOP label him a Elitist because he had multiple homes and married a rich wife.
Or I guess you could go a completely different angle and say they are implying that he is addle brained and can not even remember how many houses he has.
"Lets see, where did I leave that Red Phone at?......... Oh yeah, I remember now. It's right next to the Nuclear Arsenal Detonation Device. Crap, now where the heck did I leave that?"
:D
BrAinPaiNt
08-21-2008, 12:41 PM
That was no label... it was true... ;)
Just as it is true for McCain.
As I have said time and time again...Both parties have their elitists and esp running for President and getting their parties nominations.
Hostile
08-21-2008, 12:44 PM
Exactly. They are wealthy and they are darn sure that they know more than others so that makes them the people who should lead others. They are also sure that since they know more than others, the other guys views are beneath them and silly in many cases.
What...the American people are unhappy about something and let it be known...most presidents just don't care because they feel they know better.
There are more than one side of the coin to the term. However the GOP has used it for years now, and still are using it, when talking about dem candidates. I find it amusing the get a little taste of their own medicine.
It still amazes me that people today do not see presidential candidates from both parties as elitists. I don't know if it is a thing where they are so ingrained with the parties mantra to use it against the other party or if they really don't see it...either way, boggles my mind.As a Cowboys fan I do not understand what is wrong with being an elitest.
:D
ABQCOWBOY
08-21-2008, 12:45 PM
Exactly. They are wealthy and they are darn sure that they know more than others so that makes them the people who should lead others. They are also sure that since they know more than others, the other guys views are beneath them and silly in many cases.
What...the American people are unhappy about something and let it be known...most presidents just don't care because they feel they know better.
There are more than one side of the coin to the term. However the GOP has used it for years now, and still are using it, when talking about dem candidates. I find it amusing the get a little taste of their own medicine.
It still amazes me that people today do not see presidential candidates from both parties as elitists. I don't know if it is a thing where they are so ingrained with the parties mantra to use it against the other party or if they really don't see it...either way, boggles my mind.
To be fair, the Democratic Party has long been portrayed as the commen mans party, while the Republicans have always been portrayed as the Party for the wealthy. For years beyong time, the Democratic party played this up and it is only very recently that this perception has changed.
At the end of the day, you are absolutly correct BP. You don't get to be President of these United States unless you have more then just a few Sheckles in the old coffee can.
BrAinPaiNt
08-21-2008, 12:45 PM
As a Cowboys fan I do not understand what is wrong with being an elitest.
:D
Well it is because we have not been elite for some time. :(
bbgun
08-21-2008, 02:38 PM
Jonah Goldberg: "If owning so many houses (or being married to an heiress) is a problem, I do hope someone asks Barack why he was so enthusiastic about John Kerry in 2004."
Hostile
08-21-2008, 02:42 PM
Well it is because we have not been elite for some time. :(Neither has the GOP or Dems.
:p:
BrAinPaiNt
08-21-2008, 02:44 PM
Neither has the GOP or Dems.
:p:
One of them wins the big one every 4 years.:cool: no wait :cool: is not right...it should be...:banghead:
Chief
08-21-2008, 02:58 PM
["I think — I'll have my staff get to you," McCain told Politico in Las Cruces, N.M. "It's condominiums where — I'll have them get to you."
Las Cruces is also where Barack Obama misspoke or fibbed last May about his uncle helping to liberate Auschwitz.
The desert heat down here must confuse people.
Hostile
08-21-2008, 03:12 PM
Las Cruces is also where Barack Obama misspoke or fibbed last May about his uncle helping to liberate Auschwitz.
The desert heat down here must confuse people.Is that also where Hilary recounted her daring feats of lead dodging in Bosnia?
Yeagermeister
08-21-2008, 03:49 PM
Heck, I have four houses. I wonder if that means I can run for President?
:laugh2:
These only count as one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Yeagermeister/redneckresort.jpg
SuspectCorner
08-22-2008, 12:50 PM
These only count as one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Yeagermeister/redneckresort.jpg
Cool pic...
ABQCOWBOY
08-22-2008, 01:24 PM
These only count as one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Yeagermeister/redneckresort.jpg
I wish you'ed let my insurance company know that.
:laugh2:
ABQCOWBOY
08-22-2008, 01:26 PM
Las Cruces is also where Barack Obama misspoke or fibbed last May about his uncle helping to liberate Auschwitz.
The desert heat down here must confuse people.
Missremembering. ;)
Ben_n_austin
08-24-2008, 05:15 AM
It is part of the GOP mantra against the dems during presidential elections.
Paint the dems as Elitists.
We have someone here that does not believe the Repubs candidate is an elitist.
I say they both are and this is just another example of it IMO.
~~~~~~~<----- Facts from the sky
:anvil:
Ben_n_austin
08-24-2008, 05:18 AM
You are right. I don't think money is what makes a person an elitist and that seems to be your entire definition of what an elitist is.
McCain is an eliitist by definition.
burmafrd
08-24-2008, 07:06 AM
Coming from a liberal I would consider it a badge of honor.
Kerry and Gore were also elitists- but you will never admit it.
Do the media and the talking heads and the rest of the liberals realize how many people are rolling their eyes at all the attention that they are giving this tiny thing?
Sarge
08-24-2008, 07:19 AM
We have someone here that does not believe the Repubs candidate is an elitist.
I say they both are and this is just another example of it IMO.
:bow: :bow:
MetalHead
08-24-2008, 08:49 AM
Who cares how many houses he has?
Is this communist China?
Only a commie mind would have an issue over how many pieces of property a man rightfully and legally owns.
burmafrd
08-24-2008, 09:53 AM
Well this is coming from left wingers.....
iceberg
08-24-2008, 10:09 AM
Why is this an issue? He hasn't campaigned as an anti-millionaire candidate or as a "champion of the little guy" like that phony John Edwards. I could care less how many homes he owns so long as he pays his property taxes.
any port in a storm.
if you tell people "this is bad" those who need it to be will go BAD MCCAIN!
doesn't matter what evidence you give them, just give them something.
MetalHead
08-24-2008, 10:10 AM
These only count as one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Yeagermeister/redneckresort.jpg
The Redneck Bellagio.
Ben_n_austin
08-24-2008, 09:58 PM
The Redneck Bellagio.\\:bow:
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