I know witten is only in his second year....

[BrAinPaiNt]

However he has shown he can play in both his first year with Campbell helping him and this year with Campbell hurt.

And once again I know it is only his second year into his original contract...however would it be wise to spend some of this years cap money that is just sitting around and give him a nice contract extension and decent signing bonus this year so we do not have to worry about it later?
Once again we have cap money that is just sitting around, so why not use some of it on the bulk of a signing bonus in a contract extension this year, so we do not have to worry about it in a few years.

Also if Lance Frazier is still seen as a decent option, whether that is at starting CB or Nickle back, how about giving him a contract that extends beyond this year (of course nothing in the league of what we would consider giving Witten).

OK...I am just thinking ahead and if we do start spending money this coming off season, instead of what we did this past off season, better to use this years money on some promising players (witten and possibly frazier if he continues doing well) so we do not have to worry about them later.

Comments?

[Juke99]

Geeez, that makes way too much sense.

I have been wondering what they have done, or plan to do with that money. By giving deserving players money today, you don't have to pay them as much tomorrow.

Makes sense to me.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Geeez, that makes way too much sense.

I have been wondering what they have done, or plan to do with that money. By giving deserving players money today, you don't have to pay them as much tomorrow.

Makes sense to me.


Which means it will probably never happen :(

[Yakuza Rich]

Adam probably knows more details about Witten's contract. I'm assuming it's a 4 year deal. Personally, I think it's a bit too early to give a contract extension. I'd wait on midway through next season to see what he's bringing to the table.

Rich...............

[hockix]

However he has shown he can play in both his first year with Campbell helping him and this year with Campbell hurt.

And once again I know it is only his second year into his original contract...however would it be wise to spend some of this years cap money that is just sitting around and give him a nice contract extension and decent signing bonus this year so we do not have to worry about it later?
Once again we have cap money that is just sitting around, so why not use some of it on the bulk of a signing bonus in a contract extension this year, so we do not have to worry about it in a few years.

Also if Lance Frazier is still seen as a decent option, whether that is at starting CB or Nickle back, how about giving him a contract that extends beyond this year (of course nothing in the league of what we would consider giving Witten).

OK...I am just thinking ahead and if we do start spending money this coming off season, instead of what we did this past off season, better to use this years money on some promising players (witten and possibly frazier if he continues doing well) so we do not have to worry about them later.

Comments?

I agree, we need to do something with the cap still available this year.

And Witten is the rare player on our team who we know we can bet will be good for years to come.

Just use this year cap and save some for next years.
So instead of giving him a big bonus we can give him a big increase this year.

I'd like to lock this kid with the team for a while.

[Kevlee06]

It does make too much sense for the Cowboys. The Eagles do this EVERY year with their promising players and they are always in good cap shape. Dallas needs to take this approach somewhat. But other than Witten and maybe Gurode I dont see many players who are in line for any type of extensions.

[BrAinPaiNt]

It does make too much sense for the Cowboys. The Eagles do this EVERY year with their promising players and they are always in good cap shape. Dallas needs to take this approach somewhat. But other than Witten and maybe Gurode I dont see many players who are in line for any type of extensions.


That is why I said Witten...not too many other young promising players on Offense.

I only mentioned frazier with the idea that he continues to improve and once again to a reasonable deal.

[MichaelWinicki]

That is why I said Witten...not too many other young promising players on Offense.

I only mentioned frazier with the idea that he continues to improve and once again to a reasonable deal.


The only given in all this is that players contracts will only go up in the future... it's like buying realestate really. Buy cheaply when you can.

[TheHustler]

It doesn't make any sense to resign him in his 2nd year with two years left.

You end up having all your money tied up into players that have had a good year or two.

It will also lead to EVERYONE wanting their contracts restructured whenever they feel that have out performed their contracts (ie: Mike Mckenzie) and management can't set that kind of precedent. You can't renegotiate a contract with that many years left.

[BrAinPaiNt]

It doesn't make any sense to resign him in his 2nd year with two years left.

You end up having all your money tied up into players that have had a good year or two.

It will also lead to EVERYONE wanting their contracts restructured whenever they feel that have out performed their contracts (ie: Mike Mckenzie) and management can't set that kind of precedent. You can't renegotiate a contract with that many years left.


Sure you can ...it is just a matter if you want to or are willing to do it.

All your money tied up into a player that was good a year or two?
No not all your money far from it...we are at a current state where we have plenty of money just sitting there.
With the cap probably going to go up in a couple of years it would be cheaper to do it now WHILE you have the extra money. Front load the contract somewhat instead of back loading it and getting a bulk of the contract out of the way.

Someone else said this...but the eagles have done this with very good results IMO.

Just because it is not the norm in the NFL...does not make it a bad Idea.

Futhermore if other players complain about it...too bad.
If they earn the money in the teams eyes then they can do something with them to lock them up long term WHILE they have the extra money.

Anyways...just a suggestion....part of me wants them to do it now with the extra money instead of doing it later when it will cost even more if he keeps improving, and when that time comes up not having the same amount of free cap money to work with when we could get him long term and cheaper.

However I will say this....even if the team wanted to do it...chances are the players agent would say NO...if they feel the player will get more money later so it could be a moot point anyways.

[TheHustler]

All your money tied up into a player that was good a year or two?
No not all your money far from it...we are at a current state where we have plenty of money just sitting there.

The problem is that it wont stop at one player. I said playerS in my post. Once you resign a player with more than one year left on his deal, other players will want the same. If you resign Witten when he has two years left, Roy and Newman will both want new deals when they have two years left. Any up and coming talent you have will demand a new contract with two years left because you have established the precedent.

[BrAinPaiNt]

The problem is that it wont stop at one player. I said playerS in my post. Once you resign a player with more than one year left on his deal, other players will want the same. If you resign Witten when he has two years left, Roy and Newman will both want new deals when they have two years left. Any up and coming talent you have will demand a new contract with two years left because you have established the precedent.


And did you see the reply I posted about that section.

If you have the money, and the team feels those players are worthy of an extension or new contract.
And you can put the bulk of it up front because you have the extra money (as in you already spent that years money on other contracts, players, FAs, draft picks and so on)...then go ahead and do it.

Once again the eagles have done similar things and it has worked for them...if you got a good young player, get him taken care of while you have the money.

However as I have said before...it may be a moot point if the player or agent wants to wait till later and try to get a bigger pay day.

[LaTunaNostra]

I'm pretty sure the Cowboys have been one of the league leaders in trying to wrap up rookies for longer than the normal contact length - signing players whose draft round dictates a three year rookie contract for five years. I suppose they are doing so for a variety of reasons, especially after seeing Dan Snyder's raid on young RFAs a year ago.... you can't win today by losing the good players you developed after two years because you gave them a three year contract when you could have gambled on a five.

On the other hand , if a franchise takes that risk, it should reap the rewards of the gamble. There will be plenty of times it wil backfire.

As mentioned here, renegotiating Jason's contact, regardless of whether he deserves it or not, would set a dangerous precedent and reverse the very thing the franchise is attempting to do - lock up young talent cheap for five years. In the future, any player who had a great or even good two seasons could point to it as "past practice". Threats of holding out would increase (the reason Bill traded Key in NY, btw, was a hold out threat when KJ had two years left on his rookie contract.).

My recommendation would be going the 49er route and padding the kid's account under the table.

In about ten years, Tags would get wind of it and fine us a seventh round pick. :rolleyes:

[BrAinPaiNt]

I'm pretty sure the Cowboys have been one of the league leaders in trying to wrap up rookies for longer than the normal contact length - signing players whose draft round dictates a three year rookie contract for five years. I suppose they are doing so for a variety of reasons, especially after seeing Dan Snyder's raid on young RFAs a year ago.... you can't win today by losing the good players you developed after two years because you gave them a three year contract when you could have gambled on a five.

On the other hand , if a franchise takes that risk, it should reap the rewards of the gamble. There will be plenty of times it wil backfire.

As mentioned here, renegotiating Jason's contact, regardless of whether he deserves it or not, would set a dangerous precedent and reverse the very thing the franchise is attempting to do - lock up young talent cheap for five years. In the future, any player who had a great or even good two seasons could point to it as "past practice". Threats of holding out would increase (the reason Bill traded Key in NY, btw, was a hold out threat when KJ had two years left on his rookie contract.).

My recommendation would be going the 49er route and padding the kid's account under the table.

In about ten years, Tags would get wind of it and fine us a seventh round pick. :rolleyes:


OR...instead of padding the kids account under the table....You could just give him a bonus at the end of this year with some of that extra money.

This would reward the kid for good play and it would also say, stick with us kid when your time comes around because we have and will take care of you.

One does not have to give a completely new contract or extend the years...they could just add in something that says they want to give him a bonus this year.