6 things the Palin pick says about McCain

[WoodysGirl]

Jim VandeHei, John F. Harris
2 hours, 25 minutes ago



The selection of a running mate is among the most consequential, most defining decisions a presidential nominee can make. John McCain’s pick of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin says a lot about his decison-making — and some of it is downright breathtaking.

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We knew McCain is a politician who relishes improvisation, and likes to go with his gut. But it is remarkable that someone who has repeatedly emphasized experience in this campaign named an inexperienced governor he barely knew to be his No. 2. Whatever you think of the pick, here are six things it tells us about McCain:

1. He’s desperate. Let’s stop pretending this race is as close as national polling suggests. The truth is McCain is essentially tied or trailing in every swing state that matters — and too close for comfort in several states like Indiana and Montana the GOP usually wins pretty easily in presidential races. On top of that, voters seem very inclined to elect Democrats in general this election — and very sick of the Bush years.

McCain could easily lose in an electoral landslide. That is the private view of Democrats and Republicans alike.

McCain’s pick shows he is not pretending. Politicians, even “mavericks” like McCain, play it safe when they think they are winning — or see an easy path to winning. They roll the dice only when they know that the risks of conventionality are greater than the risks of boldness.

The Republican brand is a mess. McCain is reasonably concluding that it won’t work to replicate George W. Bush and Karl Rove’s electoral formula, based around national security and a big advantage among Y chromosomes, from 2004.

“She’s a fresh new face in a party that’s dying for one — the antidote to boring white men,” a campaign official said.

Palin, the logic goes, will prompt voters to give him a second look — especially women who have watched Democrats reject Hillary Rodham Clinton for Barack Obama.

The risks of a backlash from choosing someone so unknown and so untested are obvious. In one swift stroke, McCain demolished what had been one of his main arguments against Obama.

“I think we’re going to have to examine our tag line, ‘dangerously inexperienced,’” a top McCain official said wryly.

2. He’s willing to gamble — bigtime. Let’s face it: This is not the pick of a self-confident candidate. It is the political equivalent of a trick play or, as some Democrats called it, a Hail Mary pass in football. McCain talks incessantly about experience, and then goes and selects a woman he hardly knows, who hardly knows foreign policy and who can hardly be seen as instantly ready for the presidency.

He is smart enough to know it could work, at least politically. Many Republicans see this pick as a brilliant stroke because it will be difficult for Democrats to run hard against a woman in the wake of the Hillary Clinton drama. Will this push those disgruntled Hillary voters McCain’s way? Perhaps. But this is hardly aimed at them: It is directed at the huge bloc of independent women — especially those who do not see abortion as a make-or-break issue — who could decide this election.

McCain has a history of taking dares. Palin represents his biggest one yet.

3. He’s worried about the political implications of his age. Like a driver overcorrecting out of a swerve, he chooses someone who is two years younger than the youthful Obama, and 28 years young than he is. (He turned 72 Friday.) The father-daughter comparison was inevitable when they appeared next to each other.

4. He’s not worried about the actuarial implications of the age issue. He thinks he’s in fine fettle, and Palin wouldn’t be performing the only constitutional duty of a vice president, which is standing by in case a president dies or becomes incapacitated. If he was really concerned about an inexperienced person sitting in the Oval Office we would be writing about vice presidential nominee Mitt Romney or Tom Ridge or Condoleezza Rice.

There is no plausible way that McCain could say that he picked Palin, who was only elected governor in 2006 and whose most extended public service was as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska (population 8,471), because she was ready to be president on Day One.

Nor can McCain argue that he was looking for someone he could trust as a close adviser. Most people know the staff at the local Starbucks better than McCain knows Palin. They met for the first time last February at a National Governors Association meeting in Washington. Then, they spoke again — by phone — on Sunday while she was at the Alaska state fair and he was at home in Arizona.

McCain has made a mockery out of his campaign's longtime contention that Barack Obama is too dangerously inexperienced to be commander in chief. Now, the Democratic ticket boasts 40 years of national experience (four years for Obama and 36 years for Joseph Biden of Delaware), while the Republican ticket has 26 (McCain’s four yeasr in the House and 22 in the Senate.)

The McCain campaign has made a calculation that most voters don’t really care about the national experience or credentials of a vice president, and that Palin’s ebullient personality and reputation as a refomer who took on cesspool politics in Alasksa matters more.

5. He’s worried about his conservative base. If he had room to maneuver, there were lots of people McCain could have selected who would have represented a break from Washington politics as usual. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman comes to mind (and it certainly came to McCain’s throughout the process). He had no such room. GOP stalwarts were furious over trial balloons about the possibility of choosing a supporter of abortion rights, including the possibility that he would reach out to his friend.

Palin is an ardent opponent of abortion who was previously scheduled to keynote the Republican National Coalition for Life's "Life of the Party" event in the Twin Cities this week.

“She’s really a perfect selection,” said Darla St. Martin, the Co-Director of the National Right to Life Committee. It is no secret McCain wanted to shake things up in this race — and he realized he was limited to a shake-up conservatives could stomach.

6. At the end of the day, McCain is still McCain. People may find him a refreshing maverick, or an erratic egotist. In either event, he marches to his own beat.

On the upside, his team did manage to play to the media’s love of drama, fanning speculation about his possible choices and maximizing coverage of the decision.

On the potential downside, the drama was evidently entirely genuine. The fact that McCain only spoke with Palin about the vice presidency for the first time on Sunday, and that he was seriously considering Lieberman until days ago, suggests just how hectic and improvisational his process was.

In the end, this selection gives him a chance to reclaim the mantle of a different kind of politician intent on changing Washington. He once had a legitimate claim to this: after all, he took on his own party over campaign finance reform and immigration. He jeopardized this claim in recent months by embracing ideas he once opposed (Bush tax cuts) and ideas that appeared politically motivated (gas tax holiday).

Spontaneity, with a touch of impulsiveness, is one of the traits that attract some of McCain’s admirers. Whether it’s a good calling card for a potential president will depend on the reaction in coming days to what looks for the moment like the most daring vice presidential selection in generations.

Mike Allen contributed to this report.

[MilesAustinforMVP]

From what I have been reading this choice has actually offended a lot of woman. Thinking they are dumb enough to vote for anyone with a vajayjay no matter what her views or experience is. This was an obvious political move and it might turn on McCain.

Instead of choosing the most qualified person for America's Veep he chose the least qualified person as a political gimmick. I think that says something about McCain. Putting politics first.

Moreover, it took away McCain's best argument against Obama off the table: Experience. This was just a bad move, pure and simple.

[zrinkill]

What website is this from?

[zrinkill]

Is there a link to what website ran this?

[Cajuncowboy]

:laugh2:

the left is really running scared now.

They are making themselves look pathetic.

I love this. I hope it keeps up.

[WoodysGirl]

What website is this from?
http://www.yahoo.com/s/945011

which was fed from politico...

[zrinkill]

http://www.yahoo.com/s/945011

which was fed from politico...

Thank you.

[WoodysGirl]

Thank you.
No problem. I'm a lil more relaxed about posting links down here, since most of my articles come from Yahoo which were fed from elsewhere.

[theogt]

I get 2-6, but I'm not understanding how this make him desparate? He may be desparate, but I don't see how the pick indicates he is.

[peplaw06]

From what I have been reading this choice has actually offended a lot of woman. Thinking they are dumb enough to vote for anyone with a vajayjay no matter what her views or experience is. This was an obvious political move and it might turn on McCain.

Instead of choosing the most qualified person for America's Veep he chose the least qualified person as a political gimmick. I think that says something about McCain. Putting politics first.

Moreover, it took away McCain's best argument against Obama off the table: Experience. This was just a bad move, pure and simple.People love to be offended.

And no THIS didn't take experience of the table. Give me a farggin break.

[WoodysGirl]

People love to be offended.

And no THIS didn't take experience of the table. Give me a farggin break.
Count me as one who don't necessarily thinks it takes it off the table, but it surely lessens the argument

They might be going for two different offices, but emphasizing that on the one hand leaves you open for criticism on the other hand.

It makes for a go-nowhere argument, IMO. We'll see how McCain & Co. approaches it, but I don't think he'll be hammering Obama personally on his lack of experience. Republican supporters might, but McCain shouldn't pull that card anymore.

[Cajuncowboy]

Count me as one who don't necessarily thinks it takes it off the table, but it surely lessens the argument

They might be going for two different offices, but emphasizing that on the one hand leaves you open for criticism on the other hand.

It makes for a go-nowhere argument, IMO. We'll see how McCain & Co. approaches it, but I don't think he'll be hammering Obama personally on his lack of experience. Republican supporters might, but McCain shouldn't pull that card anymore.

Why is that WG? McCain's VP pick has more experience than Obama does. She at least has executive experience and he has 2 years as a Senator. Sorry but He has every ground to hammer him on experience and not have to worry about them hammering Palin on experience. Obama is trumped no matter which way they go.

[peplaw06]

Count me as one who don't necessarily thinks it takes it off the table, but it surely lessens the argument

They might be going for two different offices, but emphasizing that on the one hand leaves you open for criticism on the other hand.

It makes for a go-nowhere argument, IMO. We'll see how McCain & Co. approaches it, but I don't think he'll be hammering Obama personally on his lack of experience. Republican supporters might, but McCain shouldn't pull that card anymore.IMO you have two ways of thinking here.

McCain is more experienced that Obama. He can hit him on that because these are the two guys who are actually running for pres.

If you believe that Joe Biden's experience makes up for Obama's lack of same, then THAT is where the focus should be, and that would be where the argument ends for you.

There's no point in saying Palin's lack of experience has anything to do with this because her lack of experience doesn't negate McCain's experience.

I can see Repubs still hitting on Obama for lack of experience, because compared to McCain he is.

IMO the experience thing is less of an issue now because of Biden, not because of the presence of Palin.

[Ben_n_austin]

From what I have been reading this choice has actually offended a lot of woman. Thinking they are dumb enough to vote for anyone with a vajayjay no matter what her views or experience is. This was an obvious political move and it might turn on McCain.

Instead of choosing the most qualified person for America's Veep he chose the least qualified person as a political gimmick. I think that says something about McCain. Putting politics first.

Moreover, it took away McCain's best argument against Obama off the table: Experience. This was just a bad move, pure and simple.

Oh, yeah, I've been hearing this today from some of my friends and I was surprised given they seemed to lean towards females in general because they're, sort of, feminists....which I understand (I think) and I admire. But I also admire the principle of patience and understanding.

It seems women voters have more of that than men. This goes for women on both sides of the fence, imo.

[Ben_n_austin]

I doubt Obama will stoop to George W. Bush levels of ad hominem on McCain, but I do think he'll make some pretty dirty arguments and insinuations other than the obvious ones....

But it's not time yet. We still have to let the calm of the beauty pageant storm set in. Then it's back to business.

[bbgun]

I doubt Obama will stoop to George W. Bush levels of ad hominem on McCain

Like twice accusing McCain of making racist statements? Nah, he'd never stoop to those levels.

[peplaw06]

I doubt Obama will stoop to George W. Bush levels of ad hominem on McCain, but I do think he'll make some pretty dirty arguments and insinuations other than the obvious ones....

But it's not time yet. We still have to let the calm of the beauty pageant storm set in. Then it's back to business.Impressive set of blinders you got on there. Where did you get those? Do you have to show them proof of registration as a Democrat to be eligible to buy?

[bbgun]

Impressive set of blinders you got on there. Where did you get those? Do you have to show them proof of registration as a Democrat to be eligible to buy?

He just ran to the fax machine to get Media Matters' latest talking points.

[Ben_n_austin]

Impressive set of blinders you got on there. Where did you get those? Do you have to show them proof of registration as a Democrat to be eligible to buy?

Says you as you set off to save the marfa day yeah. I guess it's easier to see the fluff from this side of the fence. Of course I know, statistically, that Republicans tend to mobilize their vote on election day simply because they tend to actually follow through with their vote.

Unfortunately, I think world events will change the mobility of several Democrats who didn't vote previously.

My assumption, and I think it's a logical one, is based on my general knowledge of voting behavior and that %90 of so-called "swing voters" already have their minds made up.

I don't think I'm the one wearing binders.

[Ben_n_austin]

He just ran to the fax machine to get Media Matters' latest talking points.

Let's see your brilliant correlation. Or would that be asking you to provide too much of a substantial retort or statement?

[WoodysGirl]

[/b]

Why is that WG? McCain's VP pick has more experience than Obama does. She at least has executive experience and he has 2 years as a Senator. Sorry but He has every ground to hammer him on experience and not have to worry about them hammering Palin on experience. Obama is trumped no matter which way they go.If it's just about Obama and McCain, then sure he can charge after him. But I think picking Palin neutralizes the heat with which he could argue that. I think if McCain brings it up, he highlights her level of experience in the process.

Palin's experience is debatable...as it should be. Her rise was just as swift as Obama's, IMO. Yes she brings quals to the table, but I think people should not assume that just because she has SOME experience that she won't be questioned about it. As for having more than Obama, it's all relative IMO.

IMO you have two ways of thinking here.

McCain is more experienced that Obama. He can hit him on that because these are the two guys who are actually running for pres.See my above response to Cajun.

If you believe that Joe Biden's experience makes up for Obama's lack of same, then THAT is where the focus should be, and that would be where the argument ends for you.No, I actually don't believe that Biden's experience makes up for Obama. But I don't think that McCain can really emphasize like he has to this point.

There's no point in saying Palin's lack of experience has anything to do with this because her lack of experience doesn't negate McCain's experience. Yes it does, IMO as far as I think it limits McCain's ability to go after Obama.

I can see Repubs still hitting on Obama for lack of experience, because compared to McCain he is. I see Repubs going after him, but I don't think McCain should do it.

IMO the experience thing is less of an issue now because of Biden, not because of the presence of Palin.I think the opposite. but I agree that experience is less of an issue. As far as number of years going into the office, they're about the same now.

[bbgun]

Let's see your brilliant correlation. Or would that be asking you to provide too much of a substantial retort or statement?

Why bother? I'd rather humor you as I would a small, dull child.

[peplaw06]

I
No, I actually don't believe that Biden's experience makes up for Obama. But I don't think that McCain can really emphasize like he has to this point.

Yes it does, IMO as far as I think it limits McCain's ability to go after Obama.

I see Repubs going after him, but I don't think McCain should do it.

I think the opposite. but I agree that experience is less of an issue. As far as number of years going into the office, they're about the same now.
Sorry, that makes no sense to me. If Biden's experience cannot make up for Obama's lack of (something you said), then how can Palin's lack of experience negate McCain's?? You seem to not give credit on one side while giving a ton of credit to the other.

[peplaw06]

Says you as you set off to save the marfa day yeah. I guess it's easier to see the fluff from this side of the fence. Of course I know, statistically, that Republicans tend to mobilize their vote on election day simply because they tend to actually follow through with their vote.

Unfortunately, I think world events will change the mobility of several Democrats who didn't vote previously.

My assumption, and I think it's a logical one, is based on my general knowledge of voting behavior and that %90 of so-called "swing voters" already have their minds made up.

I don't think I'm the one wearing binders.Nice try. I responded to a specific remark made by you. I never said any of these things you are arguing. Lookin for some windmills are ya Don?

[WoodysGirl]

Sorry, that makes no sense to me. If Biden's experience cannot make up for Obama's lack of (something you said), then how can Palin's lack of experience negate McCain's?? You seem to not give credit on one side while giving a ton of credit to the other.
I don't think I am. Obama's lack of experience is still an issue, but it's been neutralized. I just don't see how McCain can go after Obama without Palin's experience being thrown in his face. I think the argument would go round in circles. It's going to be very interesting to see how things go in the next few weeks.

[Ben_n_austin]

Nice try. I responded to a specific remark made by you. I never said any of these things you are arguing. Lookin for some windmills are ya Don?

Nice try by me... complete whiff by you.

I win.

[Cajuncowboy]

I don't think I am. Obama's lack of experience is still an issue, but it's been neutralized. I just don't see how McCain can go after Obama without Palin's experience being thrown in his face. I think the argument would go round in circles. It's going to be very interesting to see how things go in the next few weeks.

So what you are saying, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that Obama's lack of experience is negated by Bidens experience. And McCain's experience is negated by Palin's perceived lack thereof?

Let's take the candidates even up. Obama vs. McCain....

Who has more experience?

If what people are saying is true and people are only voting for the Prez and not the VP then the experience issue is very relevant.

[peplaw06]

Nice try by me... complete whiff by you.

I win.Yay. You win. You've proven to be disinterested in actually having an intellectual conversation over and over today. I gather most people knew that, but first time I've seen it for myself. Ergo, ignore.

[peplaw06]

I don't think I am. Obama's lack of experience is still an issue, but it's been neutralized. I just don't see how McCain can go after Obama without Palin's experience being thrown in his face. I think the argument would go round in circles. It's going to be very interesting to see how things go in the next few weeks.Do you not think that it's a little more important that McCain is obviously more experienced than Obama? Palin is not running for the head of the executive branch.

[Ben_n_austin]

Nice try. I responded to a specific remark made by you. I never said any of these things you are arguing. Lookin for some windmills are ya Don?

I feel for whoever you argue for.

[burmafrd]

Benny, you used to be interesting and at least good to argue with. Not any more. I am putting you on ignore.

[Cajuncowboy]

Benny, you used to be interesting and at least good to argue with. Not any more. I am putting you on ignore.

I got a feeling it doesn't matter now. :D

[Danny White]

From what I have been reading this choice has actually offended a lot of woman. Thinking they are dumb enough to vote for anyone with a vajayjay no matter what her views or experience is. This was an obvious political move and it might turn on McCain.

Anecdotally, I've seen the exact opposite.

I have some good friends -- a married couple -- who are moderate Democrats (Catholic too). The day the pick was named, the wife of the couple called me at my office and asked me if I knew how she could volunteer for the McCain campaign. Said both she and her husband loved the Palin pick and was particularly moved about her son with Downs Syndrome.

Also, tonight, I was checking my Facebook "friends" and visited the page for one of my cousins. This cousin is no conservative, that's for sure. She's from Portland, Oregon... what you'd probably consider a "goth" chick... I'd always considered her to be a solid liberal. I almost fell out of my chair when I saw that just yesterday she had added herself as a "supporter" of McCain/Palin on Facebook!

Like I said, just two anecdotes, certainly not a scientific poll. But both that couple and my cousin were likely Obama "leans" before the Palin announcement.

On top of all that, of course, I know of DOZENS of conservative friends who went from "undecided" on McCain to solid supporters because of this pick.

[burmafrd]

This article is full of a lot of crap. McCain is leading in the polls so why would he be desperate? ANd frankly more reputable polling firms have it a lot closer in the key battleground states then this article would have you believe.
He definitly needed someone younger and more attractive. so that cut down the number of candidates. And since CHANGE has been Obama's mantra, this answers that= and at the same time underlines that Biden is no change at all. I think it is a very smart move= everything I have read about her is that she will hold her own vs biden and will look a whole lot better whenever compared to him. And it also makes it clear that McCain does not think he needs any help in running things= another stark contrast to Obama.

[yeahyeah]

The article is good WG thanks. I think we can really see how the old buzzard messed up and how his choice is patronizing toward women ESPECIALLY Hillary's crowd.
Obama needs to set Hillary loose on her. If Hillary goes for her throat she is done. We shall see how unified the party is now.

[zrinkill]

The article is good WG thanks. I think we can really see how the old buzzard messed up and how his choice is patronizing toward women ESPECIALLY Hillary's crowd.
Obama needs to set Hillary loose on her. If Hillary goes for her throat she is done. We shall see how unified the party is now.


:lmao:

McCain's choice is probably the second best one he could have made.

The reaction and shear panic of the Obama supporters is proof enough of that.

[yeahyeah]

:lmao:

McCain's choice is probably the second best one he could have made.

The reaction and shear panic of the Obama supporters is proof enough of that.

Better than Pawlenty? Better than Bailey-Hutchinson?

I beg to differ.

[burmafrd]

actually the fact that you disagree is the strongest arguement in her favor.

[yeahyeah]

actually the fact that you disagree is the strongest arguement in her favor.

I love you too. :p:

[Hostile]

I love you too. :p:Ya'll get a room.

:D

[theogt]

I don't think I am. Obama's lack of experience is still an issue, but it's been neutralized. I just don't see how McCain can go after Obama without Palin's experience being thrown in his face. I think the argument would go round in circles. It's going to be very interesting to see how things go in the next few weeks.Because Obama *would be* president and Palin wouldl only potentially be president. Assuming McCain didn't die on Day 1, she'd have the best experience possible if he did eventually die.

[Hostile]

Why does everybody think 72 is ancient? Reagan was 70 and served 8 years and as far as I recollect he was not doddering. Yeah, McCain has had some skin cancers, but Reagan had some health issues too. People can live past 76 and even 80 and be active.

Too big an issue is being made of age. JMO as I stick up blindly for my fellow Arizonan.

[Bach]

Did little Ben get banned again?

What a shame.

[VietCowboy]

Why does everybody think 72 is ancient? Reagan was 70 and served 8 years and as far as I recollect he was not doddering. Yeah, McCain has had some skin cancers, but Reagan had some health issues too. People can live past 76 and even 80 and be active.

Too big an issue is being made of age. JMO as I stick up blindly for my fellow Arizonan.

probably because of fear of dementia. unfortunately.

[DFWJC]

From what I have been reading this choice has actually offended a lot of woman. Thinking they are dumb enough to vote for anyone with a vajayjay no matter what her views or experience is. This was an obvious political move and it might turn on McCain.

Instead of choosing the most qualified person for America's Veep he chose the least qualified person as a political gimmick. I think that says something about McCain. Putting politics first.

Moreover, it took away McCain's best argument against Obama off the table: Experience. This was just a bad move, pure and simple.

The ones that are offended are the ones narrow minded enough to think that the GOP thinks women vote as a block. Any idiot knows otherwise. See Condi Rice vs Nancy Pelosi for an example.

What they do know is that right wing and centrist women have not been galvanzied by the GOP this go-around...so a portion of that group (that may not have voted at all) for several reason may now swing to McCain. Of course there are the 3% of Dem. women voters that truely hate Obama that may swing to the McCains side, but that is a big "if".

[Cajuncowboy]

What's not to like????

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00390/pp185x_390911a.jpg

[yeahyeah]

What's not to like????

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00390/pp185x_390911a.jpg

Easily impressed much?

[zrinkill]

Easily impressed much?

And what impresses you about Biden? Other than that D behind his name?

[Cajuncowboy]

Easily impressed much?

LOL. Your just jealous that you have weak, spineless, jellyfish to run on your ticket. Actually, you may be jealous of her for more than that, now that I think about it.

[Bach]

And what impresses you about Biden? Other than that D behind his name?

He's the consummate professional. Always calm, cool and collected.

http://www.reason.com/UserFiles/Image/ngillespie/biden.jpg

[yeahyeah]

And what impresses you about Biden? Other than that D behind his name?

30+ years of experience....palin?...I guess she is one heck of a soccer mom huh?

[Cajuncowboy]

30+ years of experience....palin?...I guess she is one heck of a soccer mom huh?

Experience at what???

Acting like a jerk during the Clarence Thomas nomination?

Or plagiarizing speeches?

Or calling out people of faith???

That's a lot of great experience right there.

Everyone has experience, just need to have the right kind and biden doesn't have it.

[zrinkill]

30+ years of experience....palin?...I guess she is one heck of a soccer mom huh?

You are sounding more and more desperate.

Do not follow the same path the other one did.

[yeahyeah]

Experience at what???

Acting like a jerk during the Clarence Thomas nomination?

Or plagiarizing speeches?

Or calling out people of faith???

That's a lot of great experience right there.

Everyone has experience, just need to have the right kind and biden doesn't have it.

:dance3:

[yeahyeah]

You are sounding more and more desperate.

Do not follow the same path the other one did.

:laugh2: OOOOOOOOOOOH

[zrinkill]

:laugh2: OOOOOOOOOOOH

And it begins.

Fail in an argument .... start the silliness.

[yeahyeah]

And it begins.

Fail in an argument .... start the silliness.

if you think Palin has more experience than Joe Biden...bring it...aint nothing to it but to do it...show me the facts...show me where palin is justified in being the number two...I can show you an article in another thread where the people who supported her in her own campaign for governor dont think she is ready for the number two.
I can also show you 30+ years of legislative experience..
Please...please...try to prove Bidens inexperience...try to prove that Biden is a joke....please..i will take this one anyday.

[zrinkill]

if you think Palin has more experience than Joe Biden...bring it...aint nothing to it but to do it...show me the facts...show me where palin is justified in being the number two...I can show you an article in another thread where the people who supported her in her own campaign for governor dont think she is ready for the number two.
I can also show you 30+ years of legislative experience..
Please...please...try to prove Bidens inexperience...try to prove that Biden is a joke....please..i will take this one anyday.

What has Biden accomplished in his 30 years in office ..... and we will compare it to her accomplishments.

Would you like to do that?

[Cajuncowboy]

:dance3:

HA! You're on empty. I knew it.

[yeahyeah]

What has Biden accomplished in his 30 years in office ..... and we will compare it to her accomplishments.

Would you like to do that?


Absolutely..lets do that.

His entire voting record for 30+ years

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53279



some votes and bills..not all

Fought for Family and Medical Leave, up to 12 unpaid weeks. (Sep 2007)
1990: authored the Violence Against Women Act. (Jul 2007)
Doctrine of crisis prevention, not preemption. (Dec 2007)
Hold China accountable; it's capitulation, not competition. (Dec 2007
No trade agreements without workers' & environmental rights. (Jul 2007)
Voted NO on free trade agreement with Oman. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on implementing CAFTA for Central America free-trade. (Jul 2005)
Voted NO on establishing free trade between US & Singapore. (Jul 2003)
Voted NO on establishing free trade between the US and Chile. (Jul 2003)
Radical change to preserve family farmers. (Dec 2007
Voted YES on tax incentives for energy production and conservation. (Jun 2008)
Voted YES on addressing CO2 emissions without considering India & China. (May 2008)
Voted YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning. (May 2007)
Voted YES on disallowing an oil leasing program in Alaska's ANWR. (Nov 2005)
Voted YES on $3.1B for emergency oil assistance for hurricane-hit areas. (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025 (instead of 5%). (Jun 2005)
Voted YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. (Mar 2005)
Voted YES on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003)
Voted YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010. (Jun 2003)
Voted YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill. (Mar 2003)
Voted NO on drilling ANWR on national security grounds.
Voting for No Child Left Behind was a mistake. (Jul 2007)
Voted YES on $52M for "21st century community learning centers". (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on $5B for grants to local educational agencies. (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on shifting $11B from corporate tax loopholes to education. (Mar 2005)
Voted YES on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
Voted YES on funding student testing instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
Voted YES on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction. (Apr 2001)
Voted YES on Educational Savings Accounts. (Mar 2000)
Voted YES on education savings accounts. (Jun 1998)
Voted YES on $75M for abstinence education. (Jul 1996)
Voted YES on welfare overhaul. (Sep 1995)

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/joe_biden.htm

Committee on Foreign Relations, Chair
Committee on the Judiciary, Chair from 1987 to 1995
Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Victims' rights, ranking Democratic member
Senate Caucus on International Narcotics Control, co-chair
Senate NATO Observer group, co-chair
Senate National Security working group, co-chair
Congressional Firemens Caucus, co-chair
Congressional International Anti-Piracy caucus, co-chair
Congressional Air Force and National Guard caucuses

Agree or disagree with his voting record the FACT is Biden has a wide breadth of legislative experience in both domestic and international matters. Palin doesnt even come anywhere close. There Is no comparison.

[zrinkill]

Absolutely..lets do that.

His entire voting record for 30+ years

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53279



some votes and bills..not all

Fought for Family and Medical Leave, up to 12 unpaid weeks. (Sep 2007)
1990: authored the Violence Against Women Act. (Jul 2007)
Doctrine of crisis prevention, not preemption. (Dec 2007)
Hold China accountable; it's capitulation, not competition. (Dec 2007
No trade agreements without workers' & environmental rights. (Jul 2007)
Voted NO on free trade agreement with Oman. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on implementing CAFTA for Central America free-trade. (Jul 2005)
Voted NO on establishing free trade between US & Singapore. (Jul 2003)
Voted NO on establishing free trade between the US and Chile. (Jul 2003)
Radical change to preserve family farmers. (Dec 2007
Voted YES on tax incentives for energy production and conservation. (Jun 2008)
Voted YES on addressing CO2 emissions without considering India & China. (May 2008)
Voted YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning. (May 2007)
Voted YES on disallowing an oil leasing program in Alaska's ANWR. (Nov 2005)
Voted YES on $3.1B for emergency oil assistance for hurricane-hit areas. (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025 (instead of 5%). (Jun 2005)
Voted YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. (Mar 2005)
Voted YES on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003)
Voted YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010. (Jun 2003)
Voted YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill. (Mar 2003)
Voted NO on drilling ANWR on national security grounds.
Voting for No Child Left Behind was a mistake. (Jul 2007)
Voted YES on $52M for "21st century community learning centers". (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on $5B for grants to local educational agencies. (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on shifting $11B from corporate tax loopholes to education. (Mar 2005)
Voted YES on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
Voted YES on funding student testing instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
Voted YES on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction. (Apr 2001)
Voted YES on Educational Savings Accounts. (Mar 2000)
Voted YES on education savings accounts. (Jun 1998)
Voted YES on $75M for abstinence education. (Jul 1996)
Voted YES on welfare overhaul. (Sep 1995)

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/joe_biden.htm

Committee on Foreign Relations, Chair
Committee on the Judiciary, Chair from 1987 to 1995
Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Victims' rights, ranking Democratic member
Senate Caucus on International Narcotics Control, co-chair
Senate NATO Observer group, co-chair
Senate National Security working group, co-chair
Congressional Firemens Caucus, co-chair
Congressional International Anti-Piracy caucus, co-chair
Congressional Air Force and National Guard caucuses

Agree or disagree with his voting record the FACT is Biden has a wide breadth of legislative experience in both domestic and international matters. Palin doesnt even come anywhere close. There Is no comparison.

So he actually did not accomplish anything ..... just voted on stuff.

She actually accomplished things as Governor.

I cannot believe you think votes are accomplishments.

[Cajuncowboy]

Absolutely..lets do that.

His entire voting record for 30+ years

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53279



some votes and bills..not all

Fought for Family and Medical Leave, up to 12 unpaid weeks. (Sep 2007)
1990: authored the Violence Against Women Act. (Jul 2007)
Doctrine of crisis prevention, not preemption. (Dec 2007)
Hold China accountable; it's capitulation, not competition. (Dec 2007
No trade agreements without workers' & environmental rights. (Jul 2007)
Voted NO on free trade agreement with Oman. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on implementing CAFTA for Central America free-trade. (Jul 2005)
Voted NO on establishing free trade between US & Singapore. (Jul 2003)
Voted NO on establishing free trade between the US and Chile. (Jul 2003)
Radical change to preserve family farmers. (Dec 2007
Voted YES on tax incentives for energy production and conservation. (Jun 2008)
Voted YES on addressing CO2 emissions without considering India & China. (May 2008)
Voted YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning. (May 2007)
Voted YES on disallowing an oil leasing program in Alaska's ANWR. (Nov 2005)
Voted YES on $3.1B for emergency oil assistance for hurricane-hit areas. (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025 (instead of 5%). (Jun 2005)
Voted YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. (Mar 2005)
Voted YES on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003)
Voted YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010. (Jun 2003)
Voted YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill. (Mar 2003)
Voted NO on drilling ANWR on national security grounds.
Voting for No Child Left Behind was a mistake. (Jul 2007)
Voted YES on $52M for "21st century community learning centers". (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on $5B for grants to local educational agencies. (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on shifting $11B from corporate tax loopholes to education. (Mar 2005)
Voted YES on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
Voted YES on funding student testing instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
Voted YES on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction. (Apr 2001)
Voted YES on Educational Savings Accounts. (Mar 2000)
Voted YES on education savings accounts. (Jun 1998)
Voted YES on $75M for abstinence education. (Jul 1996)
Voted YES on welfare overhaul. (Sep 1995)

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/joe_biden.htm

Committee on Foreign Relations, Chair
Committee on the Judiciary, Chair from 1987 to 1995
Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Victims' rights, ranking Democratic member
Senate Caucus on International Narcotics Control, co-chair
Senate NATO Observer group, co-chair
Senate National Security working group, co-chair
Congressional Firemens Caucus, co-chair
Congressional International Anti-Piracy caucus, co-chair
Congressional Air Force and National Guard caucuses

Agree or disagree with his voting record the FACT is Biden has a wide breadth of legislative experience in both domestic and international matters. Palin doesnt even come anywhere close. There Is no comparison.

But wth has he done???

Man, do you even know what an accomplishment is?

EDIT: I just now saw Zrin's post. LOL!

[yeahyeah]

So he actually did not accomplish anything ..... just voted on stuff.

She actually accomplished things as Governor.

I cannot believe you think votes are accomplishments.

Its called representative government...thats what our REPRESENTATIVES do..they draft bills and vote on them....jeeze..what did you expect a time machine? :rolleyes:

Your turn..bring it

[zrinkill]

Its fine for the only experience a Senator to have is voting on Bills .... But a President needs more.

As far as the "bring it" thing that Benny always loved to do.

Has Biden or Obama ever been the Executive in charge of a 26 billion dollar project for their Country?

Has Biden or Obama ever given back the people of their state over 1000 dollars in windfall profit to combat the high costs?

Has Biden or Obama ever been in charge of the National Guard of their state?

Has Biden or Obama had day to day relations with a foreign Country like Palin?

She's vetoed legislation, she's taken on corruption, and in her party, and won. She took on the oil companies and won. She administered a budget successfully.

Obama or Biden has never run a city, never run a state, never run a business, never administered a payroll, and never led people in crisis.


But hey ..... they have voted more huh?

;)

[yeahyeah]

Its fine for the only experience a Senator to have is voting on Bills .... But a President needs more.

As far as the "bring it" thing that Benny always loved to do.

Has Biden or Obama ever been the Executive in charge of a 26 billion dollar project for their Country?

Has Biden or Obama ever given back the people of their state over 1000 dollars in windfall profit to combat the high costs?

Has Biden or Obama ever been in charge of the National Guard of their state?

Has Biden or Obama had day to day relations with a foreign Country like Palin?

She's vetoed legislation, she's taken on corruption, and in her party, and won. She took on the oil companies and won. She administered a budget successfully.

Obama or Biden has never run a city, never run a state, never run a business, never administered a payroll, and never led people in crisis.


But hey ..... they have voted more huh?

;)

Thats what I thought..now :zipit:

[zrinkill]

Thats what I thought..now :zipit:

So once again you have nothing .... right.

She has more Experience than any of the other Candidates including McCain.

You know it ..... and anyone who looks knows it.

Its like Comparing the Mayor of a City for a few years to the Manager of a grocery store for 30.

Deal with it. :lmao:

[Cajuncowboy]

So once again you have nothing .... right.

She has more Experience than any of the other Candidates including McCain.

You know it ..... and anyone who looks knows it.

Its like Comparing the Mayor of a City for a few years to the Manager of a grocery store for 30.

Deal with it. :lmao:

This will be all over in November and until then all they will do is bellyache and run scared until they lose, then complain the election was stolen.

[zrinkill]

This will be all over in November and until then all they will do is bellyache and run scared until they lose, then complain the election was stolen.

I am gonna have too remember that Mayor vs Grocery manager thing.

It even made me laugh.

;)

[Cajuncowboy]

I am gonna have too remember that Mayor vs Grocery manager thing.

It even made me laugh.

;)

Yeah Yeah, that was good. :lmao:

[zrinkill]

Yeah Yeah, that was good. :lmao:

Keep up the fight man .....

I am going to go eat at Red Lobster before all the refugees from Gustav fill the streets.

Be back later.

[Cajuncowboy]

Keep up the fight man .....

I am going to go eat at Red Lobster before all the refugees from Gustav fill the streets.

Be back later.

I'm out as well. Gotta get to the grill.

[yeahyeah]

So once again you have nothing .... right.

She has more Experience than any of the other Candidates including McCain.

You know it ..... and anyone who looks knows it.

Its like Comparing the Mayor of a City for a few years to the Manager of a grocery store for 30.

Deal with it. :lmao:


"Its fine for the only experience a Senator to have is voting on Bills .... But a President needs more."





Like Kennedy, Teddy Roosevelt, Nixon, Lincoln, Eisenhower, Truman, FDR?.....They were all governors because its so needed to be president right? No..they were not...Those guys didnt have the tools did they? They couldnt lead..their experience was just useless in leadership...right?
So basically what you are saying is because she has different leadership experience and about 25 years less of it..that makes her a better candidate?...do you understand how ridiculous that sounds? Do you think being a governor alone makes a person a better president? Look at GW...I have given you the entire voting record of 30 years in Washington and you give me 2 years in the governors seat.

[zrinkill]

I have given you the entire voting record of 30 years in Washington and you give me 2 years in the governors seat.

Exactly ..... and hers is still more impressive which is really sad.

To Quote Michael Gerson
"Having worked as a Senate staffer for many years, I am not convinced that hosting hearings, issuing press releases and giving floor speeches is the most relevant kind of experience for a president. Recent presidents since Ronald Reagan have been governors for a reason (among others) -- because management seems more impressive than bloviation."

That says volumes.

You just do not get how much she accomplished in such a short time do you.

Your partisan way of seeing things keeps it from you.

She has REAL executive experience. They have none.

[Angus]

You, I'm sure, will be interested in the responses the authors of this article got directly from the people. They have been chastised and know it. Read:

Readers critical of McCain analysis
By JIM VANDEHEI & JOHN F. HARRIS | 8/31/08 6:14 PM EST

Our e-mail over the past 24 hours offers one irrefutable fact about the surprising selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin: A lot of Republicans think we are detached from reality for suggesting the pick was an act of desperation by John McCain.

In a column published Saturday, we wrote that McCain's pick reflected his need to dramatically shake up the race by selecting a woman he hardly knows. Readers directed most of their outrage at our assessment that this was a "desperate" move by McCain.

Rarely have we been flooded with more e-mail, the most generous of which suggested we are dimwits, and much of it calling us names not fit to print. It was an especially stark example of something that in America's polarized political culture is a common phenomenon: reporters and activists viewing the same facts through radically different prisms.

Given the strong response, we asked many of those readers if we could publish their take on the pick. We put the most substantive ones at the top. But if you want to get a flavor of a journalist’s typical inbox fare, read to the bottom:

The experience issue is still in play for McCain. It is out there and Obama has to make his bones on this apart from Palin. He does not look better now because Palin is in the picture. The Democrats really don't want this argument to continue, but because of their defensiveness may have lost perspective and foolishly start inviting comparisons of Obama to Palin. And McCain can go silent on this and shift gears to other issues. His past attacks are not invalidated and only worked anyway because they confirmed perceptions in the minds of some voters. A fear of Obama's readiness trumps a fear of Palin's readiness.

The experience argument was always a cover for a larger argument. And in ads, it had started to shift from "readiness" to "do you know enough about him." Plus Obama has given the GOP material to make specific attacks. Palin's blank slate is just that.

I do agree that the polls are misleading and the big elephant in the room was that edge in Dem enthusiasm and registration.

The Clinton women angle is being overplayed. That 18mm is comprised of a wide variety of people. Palin is a play to the base. There are fewer Republicans these days - there are not fewer conservatives.

The Dems are behind the curve on this one, trust me.

— Bruce Schindler, Pennsylvania

1-as one who has followed this election cycle closely, I've know about Palin for a long time. I had given up hope a running mate like Palin or Jindal would be chosen and am ecstatic at this move. Desperate? No. Brilliant. Yes. While the Democrats talk about change, all tangible details are the same old DNC party line. Government programs with no real change. This pick gives some hope of a truly refreshing direction.

2-are you completely blind to the other problems Palin poses? Obama talks about energy policy like he has some authority in this area. Palin has real experience and real knowledge. Her expertise will expose Obama's hollow platitudes.

3&4-On experience, I'd say two years of actually working as an executive trumps one year as a junior senator and one year running for president while abandoning senate responsibilities. And then there is Palin's record of standing against the abuses within her party. Meanwhile Obama has a record of kow-towing to the Dem power brokers and financiers, combined with a voting record that mirrors the extreme end of the old guard. I'll take an honest former executive with a conscience before a demagogue with no real experience as our nations leader.

5-I'll give you 5.

6-Are you seriously calling McCain an egotist when compared to Obama? This is just an indicator of your own political blind spot. Your final two paragraphs point out some legitimate questions about McCain's shift toward the neo-con right. But be honest and recognize Obama's own old school DNC party line. He poses no challenges to the teacher's unions menace to education, the worker's unions stifling blanket on productivity (just as much a part of the problems of jobs shipping overseas as corporate greed), an approach to government that isn't more bureaucracy and wasteful spending, a fix to a broken tax code, etc.

— Stephen Jensen, Austin, Texas

WOW!! You couldn't be more wrong about McCain' pick for VP. It was a brilliant pick, not intended to get Hillary voters, but to energize the base. There were too many conservatives, like myself, that were going to have a hard time pulling the lever for McCain. With Palin on the ticket I will not only feel good about voting , I'll be willing to volunteer time and give money to his campaign. I find it amusing that the liberal elit in this country just don't get it. SO go ahead and follow Obama like the rest of the mindless sheep that hold him up as a sort of savior. The Republican base is now energized and Obama will lose in November.

— Michael Page, Seattle, Washington

Your article on the 6 things that the McCain pick says is completely and obviously misrepresented. McCain is not desperate. He chose a reformer like himself. You also failed to mention how Palin took on the corrupt GOP establishment of her own state. You are so obviously a liberal democrat and only wrote about her in a one sided way typical of the liberal media. I am so sick of you guys. For the first time in my life, I have the opportunity to vote for a woman republican and I am excited. To dismiss her as a desperate choice by McCain is insulting to women everywhere. With this pick, John McCain assured a win in November. I laugh everytime you media idiots say Obama is going to win by a landslide. But you are right, it is not a close as the polls say. John McCain is the one who will win by a landslide. I am not a racist, in fact my husband is a minority and my children are bi-racial. It insults me everytime you media commentaries say that white people won't vote for a black man. Maybe a very small portion, but those are probably the same voters who also won't vote for a woman either.

— Jennifer Tuazon, St. Petersburg, Florida

Your address says it all. You could not be more wrong on your article about McCain's pick for VP. I am so thrilled with his decision I can hardly stand it. She is far more experienced than Obama that it is laughable. McCain is hardly desperate but I can see that in your liberal surroundings you may think that to be so. I have die hard democrat relatives so furious with the Obama and Biden ticket that they are voting Republican for the first time in their lives. I hear nothing but grumbling about this liberal ticket. This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the empty message of change. The only change I see is the movement of my money into the hands of those too inept to handle it and too stupid to make it on their own. When I finish this email, I am writing a check to McCain's campaign. Your article fired me up and so did his selection. At least she knows how many states we have. Obama thinks we have 58 and they are making fun of McCain for the house comment. Now that is funny.

— Renee Cox, Irving, Texas

Palin on experience — Of the four, she is the only one to have run anything. She is the only one where something that has been accomplished can actually be tracked back to her actions. Small town? Hey check Harry Reeds home town, and bunch of trailers, and he is leader of our Senate. Mrs. Palin is bringing something to the table that no one else has the guts to do, clean house! Guess what, not to be sexist, but that's just what women are capable of doing. Discarding what is no longer of use around the house (DC). I believe the American people are excited about this potential resident of Washington DC, and they will back her efforts to the hilt.

— Brian Dani, Laguna Niguel, California

I think Palin is a terrific pick. I will certainly cast my vote for McCain now. My husband, who voted for Obama in the primaries, will now vote for McCain. Obama did not stay true to his message about change, in fact, he picked a complete Washington insider for his VP. McCain used greater imagination, and plucked someone from as far away from Washington as one can get. I applaud Senator McCain. I do believe the race is as close as things suggests. People do things different in the privacy of a voting booth, than they claim to outside. It is a sad statement, but racism is still very much alive.

— Maureen L. Burke, Sacramento, California

just wanted you to know that I think you are wrong about Mc Cain's pick. How refreshing to see ONE honest person in Government, one that seems to care about the people and NOT just trying to get rich herself! I didn't give a damn about either men, Obama already is a crook in my book, but now I shall vote because of her and I hope that SHE'll win!

(new e-mail)

I'm a little worried about your phrase; publishing parts or writing down your thoughts!!!! The most important thing to me is, she is an outsider and seems to be honest and seems to work for the PEOPLE! Now this is something to vote for!! I would not have voted for Hillary, she is a huge liar and we have too many like her already!

— Susanne Lauper, California

My brother-in-law a retired Marine pilot, 2 Vietnam tours with an adopted Vietnamese daugter said it all. He wished Palin would debate BO. Inexperince vs inexperience. She would clean his clock. A Biden debate would be over when she would tell Joe, YOU CAN'T BE CATHOLIC & PRO ABORTION. I lived in WI. I knew Lombardi.

I could introduce to George Dickson Lombari's backfield coach with the Redskins. I heard 1 of your people state that the majority of people are pro-choice. That's untrue however the drive by media will not challenge you fellows. John McCain knows how to pick'em. Sarah IS PROI-LIFE. Her DECISION to keep TRIG about the time she met McCain in Feb. proves her decision making capability.

I have 3 daugters 2 older than you and Sarah. They would put their money on Sarah in a head to head with BO. BO V SP BARACK OBOMA vs Sarah Palin.

— John Bettinger, Ohio

Somebody needs to tell McCain that having a uterus and boobs does not = Hillary!!!

— Connie Andrews, Chesapeake, Virginia

how can you even compare senatorial duty to governance ... stop drawing conclusions and providing faulty analysis to fit your underlying aggenda ... stick to reporting and not retorting ... Obama's a snake oil salesman and Biden's a angry white guy. ... Palin has more class, courage and principles in her little finger then thay have in their whole body ... Aloha from Hawaii

— Kevin McClintock, Hawaii

I see you guys are part of the Obama express, just like the drive by media.

— Carl A. Fontana, Pennsylvania

6 things you should know about your article:
1) It had little to do with fact.
2) This didn't pass the smell test as news.
3) It was far less objective and could have been written by Bob Beckel.
4) This article might appeal to Democrats.
5) I got a sense of wasting my time after I read this.
6) This is an opinion. Everyone has one and I don't subscribe to yours.

— Ron Stirling, Connecticut

Wow What world do you live in? Sarah has more experience than either obama/biden(the bridge to nowhere) have combined.. She has at executive experience.What has obama done period Biden just sticks his foot in his mouth she be fun to see Sarah rip him apart

— Jim Eglinas, Cary, Illinois

McCain is not desperate, buddy. He is smart and he is not concerned about picking a women to be his VP, unlike the supposedly pro-woman left. Obama should have picked Hillary Clinton and screwed up by picking the terrible Joe "Plugs the Plagiarist" Biden. Obama has less experience than either McCain or Palin and only Democratic bigots like you and the other card-carrying socialists are criticizing his pick. Next time you call yourself a journalist, take a look in the mirror and ask yourself if you are a liar. You and most of the media, particularly at Politico, are basically in the tank for the liberals/Democrats.

— James Dean, Pennsylvania

Whoa, Your slant on McCain's pick is just, well precious! I think these are the things you are HOPING McCain's pick means. But as the liberals find out each election season, people don't like being misled and lied to, and they're not stupid. Keep up this kind of tripe, and good luck on Nov. 4!!!! Your candidate, Mr. Holiness Obama, will get trounced, and I can't wait to see your humble acknowledgement of having "hyped" all your stories, once again!

— Marci Johnson, Gilbert, Arizona

I have my doubts about Palin, Jim, but your puff ho piece was so blatantly partisan pro-Obama that it is ridiculous. Methinks you had better go back to Journalism School and learn about objectivity.

If anyone is concerned about losing, and losing big, it is the fraud known as Barry Hussein Obama, who also needed to pick 'safe'. But of course you wouldn't say that in a million years.

— Alan Rockman, Phoenix, Arizona

My God are you that out of touch?? Obama wont win 10 states. It'll be somewhat close in total numbers, but a near landslide in the electoral college. Sorry guys, not this time and not with this guy.

— Michael Paro, Algonquin, Illinois

How long, dear god, are you guys going to keep the McCain maverick myth alive? He has repudiated nearly every issue which created the myth: torture, taxes, the influence of the religious right, openness to the press (no more open door, folks; sorry), campaign finance reform. In short, on every issue that matters he has become merely another, tired voice of failed Republican policy. Why not call a spade a spade?

— Peter Tatiner, Highland Park, New Jersey

6 things about JIM VANDEHEI:

1. OBAMA BIASED "journalist" ahumm (Obama man crush) 2. APPARANT SEXIST (I.E HILLARY COVERAGE) 3.MSNBC LEMMING 4.DOUBLE STANDARD BEARER 5.BLIND..UNABLE TO SEE MS.PALIN HAS MORE EXPERIENCE THAN THE CHOSEN ONE 6.BIAS BIAS BIAS...SHAME SHAME SHAME

— Wanda McMichael, Des Moines, Iowa

You are such a left wing radical that you make me sick. How dare you try to take down a veteran who almost gave his life for this country. And the last time that I looked, the president is the commander in chief, not the vice president, so the argument over inexperience should be directed solely on the President, you jerk.

— Rolf Laws, Nevada

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/13035.html

[zrinkill]

Like I have said before .... I still think the vast silent majority of this country is conservative.

They just need something to rally them.

Palin may be it this time ...... or McCain's past borderline liberal behavior might come back to bite him.

Its gonna be a fun next few months.

We are gonna see history either way ...... first Woman or first "Minority" in the White House.

I am excited.

[VietCowboy]

eh, conservatism and liberalism is a pendulum....unfortunately for me it's in the conservatism era right now. Hopefully when my kids are growing up, we'll be back on the liberal train. I can hope.

[Cajuncowboy]

[B]I have given you the entire voting record of 30 years in Washington and you give me 2 years in the governors seat.

That's sad. You gave his entire 30 years in Washington and it took 2 minutes to read it.

Thanks for proving biden isn't worth the paper to make up the ballot as far as a senator OR a vp is concerned.

[Cajuncowboy]

eh, conservatism and liberalism is a pendulum....unfortunately for me it's in the conservatism era right now. Hopefully when my kids are growing up, we'll be back on the liberal train. I can hope.

For your kids sake I hope you are wrong and I will do everything in my power to see that you are.