Colt McCoy

[silverbear]

When Colt was a freshman, setting records for UT, I started contemplating him eventually winding up a Cowboy, and got giddy... my plan was for Jerry to draft him two years from now, let him back up Romo for a couple-three years, then eventually be the heir apparent...

Then he regressed last year... started making the mistakes he did not make as a freshman... and I wondered if he was a flash in the pan... I told myself that he needed to bounce back big this year, or he'd wind up a 6th round pick in 2010...

Well, friends, he's gotten off to a heckuva start... yesterday against Florida Atlantic, we saw the old Colt, as he joined Vince Young as only the second UT quarterback to have multiple games of 200 yards passing and 100 yards rushing...

He went 20 of 24 (two of the incompletions were drops), for 223 yards, 3 TDs and no ints... he also led the team in rushing, with 103 yards on 12 carries, and another TD...

Most impressive of all was his toughness; FAU was flagged for hitting him late 3 different times, and he just bounced back up, and made 'em pay...

OK, the level of competition wasn't Big XII, but this was a terrific game, and a good omen for Colt and the Horns... 326 yards of total offense, on 36 plays, it's tough to beat that...

[WDN]

Well, friends, he's gotten off to a heckuva start... yesterday against Florida Atlantic, .


I should hope that he would look good against Florida Atlantic.

[silverbear]

Updating Colt's progress this year, tonight he went up against my old school, UTEP, down in the Sun Bowl... the Horns won 42-13 (even though UTEP actually outgained them, 405 yards to 402), and Colt went 20 for 30, 281 yards, 4 TDs and 1 int, his first of the year... he wasn't nearly as effective on the ground as he was the first game, he just had 6 yards on 5 carries...

So after two games, his numbers look like this:

59 attempts, 44 completions (74.6%), for 503 yards (8.5 YPA), 7 TDs, 1 int... throw in 109 yards rushing on 17 carries (6.4 YPA) and another TD, and he totals out to 76 plays for 612 yards and 8 TDs in two games... that's 306 yards per game of total offense, and 8.1 yards per play...

And oh yeah, his quarterback rating now stands at 182.0 for the year... that'll do...

I especially like the TDs to ints ratio... but again, I recognize that so far, the schedule hasn't been too demanding...

As for the Horns as a team, they're not doing much in the running game so far, and they're giving up too many yards... at the same time, their defense hasn't really been all that bad; they've allowed 181 yards rushing on 54 carries, and no TDs, a 3.4 ypc average, and have given up 42 completions on 81 attempts, for 516 yards, with 2 TDs allowed and 1 int... that's a 51.9 completion percentage, and a 6.4 yards per attempt average, both of which are quite acceptable...

I'm concerned about the running game, and still slightly concerned about the defense... I don't think it's as bad as last year's was, but it's still not quite up to snuff...

But my boy Colt, he's back to being the baby-faced killer he was as a freshman, at least so far...

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think Colt has played well all three years at Texas. His drop off last year was mainly due to the fact that our OL was not very good. Lots of injuries on the OL, WRs and lots of injuries Colt played through last year. I like Colt McCoy and I would not be surprised to see him taken as a starter by somebody once it's all said and done with. I hope we are lucky enough to get him as a back up. I'm not certain that we will thou.

[cowboysfan31]

His McNabb impersonation vs. UTEP was pretty impressive. He looked good for playing in a hostile road environment early in the season.

[ABQcowboyJR]

Gotta love the heart of that kid. My favorite QB in college right now.

[Biggems]

Colt sucked against A&M his freshman year.....but that was because of the injury in the KSt game. Had the refs done the right thing and called Selvin Young's run a TD on 3rd down, Colt would have not had to do the QB sneak for the TD on 4th down. Thus he would not have injured himself and who knows how the rest of that game turns out.....and the A&M game after.

BTW, just think, Barber could have gotten injured instead of scoring the TD, on the play after the refs didnt even review the Romo to TO pass, that was actually a TD. Thankfully Barber didn't get hurt.

Back to Colt....other than KSt and A&M, Colt has been quite dominant. Yes he frustrates me at times, but the kid has moxie and spunk. He is tough. I hope he comes back for his senior year....I would hate for this to be the last year of the Colt Express.

[joseephuss]

I like Colt McCoy, but he does not look like a pro prospect to me. Even as a potential back up. He is a good college QB and is probably the strength of his team. They will need much more than just him to win a Big XII title and I don't see that happening this season.

A play that Colt runs and has success with is when he scrambles to his right and then lofts the ball slightly back to the left to a receiver dragging across the field. I have seen him do that multiple times with great success. He has thrown several TDs doing it. I don't see that working in the NFL.

I doubt he is truly 6'-2". He has average arm strength at best. He does not have a quick release. He gets a lot of passes batted down at the line. Gregg Davis and Mack Brown do not produce NFL QBs while at Texas, so he probably has a lot to learn or unlearn.

I am being super critical, but I think I am pretty close to being right. If the young man proves me wrong over the next several years I will have no problems with that. I wish him well. I just don't see it.

[YoungBuck]

I think Colt has played well all three years at Texas. His drop off last year was mainly due to the fact that our OL was not very good. Lots of injuries on the OL, WRs and lots of injuries Colt played through last year. I like Colt McCoy and I would not be surprised to see him taken as a starter by somebody once it's all said and done with. I hope we are lucky enough to get him as a back up. I'm not certain that we will thou.

I think this is right. We've seen Colt's production is directly related to the play of the OLine. Last season he was running for his life, and this season he's finding all sorts of time.

I like Colt McCoy, but he does not look like a pro prospect to me. Even as a potential back up. He is a good college QB and is probably the strength of his team. They will need much more than just him to win a Big XII title and I don't see that happening this season.

A play that Colt runs and has success with is when he scrambles to his right and then lofts the ball slightly back to the left to a receiver dragging across the field. I have seen him do that multiple times with great success. He has thrown several TDs doing it. I don't see that working in the NFL.

I doubt he is truly 6'-2". He has average arm strength at best. He does not have a quick release. He gets a lot of passes batted down at the line. Gregg Davis and Mack Brown do not produce NFL QBs while at Texas, so he probably has a lot to learn or unlearn.

I am being super critical, but I think I am pretty close to being right. If the young man proves me wrong over the next several years I will have no problems with that. I wish him well. I just don't see it.

I think you're right. Even if he had four years like his freshman season he's still just Jason White or Ken Dorsey. Great college QB, but because he doesn't have the "NFL tools" he doesn't make a great NFL QB.

[DallasCowpoke]

IMO, McCoy is slightly more talented than Applewhite, mainly because of his mobility and natural gifts. But unless his next 2 seasons are just lights-out, he won't be given much of a look by NFL scouts.

[ABQCOWBOY]

He also throws a pretty accurate sprint out to his left. I don't think he has a problem with his velocity or arm strength. Every body, including me, doubted Romo's arm strength when he first got to the Pro Game. I still don't believe he has an exceptional arm. However, he does see things others do not. I think McCoy has a little bit of this in him as well.

I would not be surprised if he got drafted but it is certainly not a given. I'm pulling for him.

[jimmy40]

When Colt was a freshman, setting records for UT, I started contemplating him eventually winding up a Cowboy, and got giddy... my plan was for Jerry to draft him two years from now, let him back up Romo for a couple-three years, then eventually be the heir apparent...

Then he regressed last year... started making the mistakes he did not make as a freshman... and I wondered if he was a flash in the pan... I told myself that he needed to bounce back big this year, or he'd wind up a 6th round pick in 2010...

Well, friends, he's gotten off to a heckuva start... yesterday against Florida Atlantic, we saw the old Colt, as he joined Vince Young as only the second UT quarterback to have multiple games of 200 yards passing and 100 yards rushing...

He went 20 of 24 (two of the incompletions were drops), for 223 yards, 3 TDs and no ints... he also led the team in rushing, with 103 yards on 12 carries, and another TD...

Most impressive of all was his toughness; FAU was flagged for hitting him late 3 different times, and he just bounced back up, and made 'em pay...

OK, the level of competition wasn't Big XII, but this was a terrific game, and a good omen for Colt and the Horns... 326 yards of total offense, on 36 plays, it's tough to beat that...

I think Garrett Gilbert will be much better.

[J-Skip]

I hope we are lucky enough to get him as a back up. I'm not certain that we will thou.


I like McCoy too, but you're right. However, the cowboys do need a young fresh backup QB instead of the aging Johnson. It would be no slight to Romo if we picked up a young guy early strictly for youthful backup purposes.

[silverbear]

I think Colt has played well all three years at Texas. His drop off last year was mainly due to the fact that our OL was not very good. Lots of injuries on the OL, WRs and lots of injuries Colt played through last year. I like Colt McCoy and I would not be surprised to see him taken as a starter by somebody once it's all said and done with. I hope we are lucky enough to get him as a back up. I'm not certain that we will thou.

Even with the problems you right note on the OL, he threw way too many picks last year... his decision making was not good, period...

I wonder if the int he threw against UTEP was another bad decision, a mistake by his receiver, or just a great play by the defense...

[silverbear]

I think this is right. We've seen Colt's production is directly related to the play of the OLine. Last season he was running for his life, and this season he's finding all sorts of time.



I think you're right. Even if he had four years like his freshman season he's still just Jason White or Ken Dorsey. Great college QB, but because he doesn't have the "NFL tools" he doesn't make a great NFL QB.

I just don't see that he's lacking those "NFL tools"... his arm strength is as good as Romo's, for example... when he's playing well, he makes good, smart decisions...

[silverbear]

He also throws a pretty accurate sprint out to his left. I don't think he has a problem with his velocity or arm strength. Every body, including me, doubted Romo's arm strength when he first got to the Pro Game. I still don't believe he has an exceptional arm. However, he does see things others do not. I think McCoy has a little bit of this in him as well.

I would not be surprised if he got drafted but it is certainly not a given. I'm pulling for him.

That's pretty much how I see him too... well said...

[silverbear]

I like McCoy too, but you're right. However, the cowboys do need a young fresh backup QB instead of the aging Johnson. It would be no slight to Romo if we picked up a young guy early strictly for youthful backup purposes.

Assuming Colt stays in school after this season, which I think is likely, I'm looking at Chase Holbrook from New Mexico State in the 6th round range in the next draft... he's put up Colt Brennan-esque numbers for a lousy NMSU team, and unlike Brennan, he has NFL size-- 6-5, 245 pounds...

[Biggems]

Assuming Colt stays in school after this season, which I think is likely, I'm looking at Chase Holbrook from New Mexico State in the 6th round range in the next draft... he's put up Colt Brennan-esque numbers for a lousy NMSU team, and unlike Brennan, he has NFL size-- 6-5, 245 pounds...


how is his mobility? he is one big dude, but is he another Bledsoe (a statue from the waist down).

[Biggems]

what about a certain QB who had it made at OU, messed up, and ended up at Sam Houston State?

[silverbear]

how is his mobility? he is one big dude, but is he another Bledsoe (a statue from the waist down).

He's rather Bledsoe-esque... runs like a 5.1 40... but he seems to have one trait that Bledsoe lacked, he gets rid of the ball quickly... he has to, working behind NMSU's offensive line...

[silverbear]

what about a certain QB who had it made at OU, messed up, and ended up at Sam Houston State?

Bomar hasn't even been all that good there, IMO...

[J-Skip]

Holbrook would be a sweet grab.

[Biggems]

Bomar hasn't even been all that good there, IMO...

Damn my clues were too easy......btw, im not saying I want him, just throwing names out there. he had the tools at OU, but it is easy to have the tools when you are surrounded to top tier talent.

[Biggems]

He's rather Bledsoe-esque... runs like a 5.1 40... but he seems to have one trait that Bledsoe lacked, he gets rid of the ball quickly... he has to, working behind NMSU's offensive line...

So he is like Dan Marino....Big, not very mobile, quick release, nimble in the pocket?

[silverbear]

Damn my clues were too easy.....

Naw, you just forgot you're talking to a dedicated draftaholic... LOL...

[silverbear]

So he is like Dan Marino....Big, not very mobile, quick release, nimble in the pocket?

I'm not gonna say he's got Marino's ability, but his style is similar, yes...

[cowboysfan31]

So he is like Dan Marino....Big, not very mobile, quick release, nimble in the pocket?

Brett Favre and Dan Marino on the same team would be sweet! :laugh2:

[Biggems]

I'm not gonna say he's got Marino's ability, but his style is similar, yes...

oh believe me, i am not insinuating that he is even in the same stratosphere skill or ability wise as Marino.....I was just asking about his playing style and pocket presence

[silverbear]

oh believe me, i am not insinuating that he is even in the same stratosphere skill or ability wise as Marino.....I was just asking about his playing style and pocket presence

Oh, I knew what you meant, but I knew if I wasn't real careful how I phrased my answer, I'd have some posters jumpin' all over me...

[Biggems]

Oh, I knew what you meant, but I knew if I wasn't real careful how I phrased my answer, I'd have some posters jumpin' all over me...

the same posters who will probably be voting for the Communist Party (the one with the Donkey logo) in November

[bconngemini]

When Colt was a freshman, setting records for UT, I started contemplating him eventually winding up a Cowboy, and got giddy... my plan was for Jerry to draft him two years from now, let him back up Romo for a couple-three years, then eventually be the heir apparent...

Then he regressed last year... started making the mistakes he did not make as a freshman... and I wondered if he was a flash in the pan... I told myself that he needed to bounce back big this year, or he'd wind up a 6th round pick in 2010...

Well, friends, he's gotten off to a heckuva start... yesterday against Florida Atlantic, we saw the old Colt, as he joined Vince Young as only the second UT quarterback to have multiple games of 200 yards passing and 100 yards rushing...

He went 20 of 24 (two of the incompletions were drops), for 223 yards, 3 TDs and no ints... he also led the team in rushing, with 103 yards on 12 carries, and another TD...

Most impressive of all was his toughness; FAU was flagged for hitting him late 3 different times, and he just bounced back up, and made 'em pay...

OK, the level of competition wasn't Big XII, but this was a terrific game, and a good omen for Colt and the Horns... 326 yards of total offense, on 36 plays, it's tough to beat that...

He never gives up...thats his best attribute.

[silverbear]

And updating Colt's season, after tonight's 52-10 victory over Rice...

Tonight, he went 19 of 23 for 327 yards, and 4 more TDs... he also ran 8 times, for 84 yards, and another TD (he looked like a fullback on that 8 yard run, steamrolling a defender at the 2 then strolling into the end zone)...

So for the season, through 3 games Colt's numbers look like this:

63 completions in 81 attempts (77.8%), for 831 yards (277.0 yards per game, 10.3 yards per attempt), 11 TDs and 1 int... he also has 25 carries for 195 yards (7.8 yards per attempt) and 2 more TDs... his quarterback rating is currently at an unbelievable 206.3, he's averaging 342 yards per game of total offense, and 9.7 yards per play...

Folks, it don't get much better than that... particularly not when the Horns don't really have a single back that scares opposing defenses (I'm not sure, but I think Colt is the team's leading rusher at this point)...

Defensively, they're still a little soft, giving up too many yards, but they've only allowed 11.0 points per game...

[Bob Sacamano]

let's wait till he plays Oklahoma

[Biggems]

And updating Colt's season, after tonight's 52-10 victory over Rice...

Tonight, he went 19 of 23 for 327 yards, and 4 more TDs... he also ran 8 times, for 84 yards, and another TD (he looked like a fullback on that 8 yard run, steamrolling a defender at the 2 then strolling into the end zone)...

So for the season, through 3 games Colt's numbers look like this:

63 completions in 81 attempts (77.8%), for 831 yards (277.0 yards per game, 10.3 yards per attempt), 11 TDs and 1 int... he also has 25 carries for 195 yards (7.8 yards per attempt) and 2 more TDs... his quarterback rating is currently at an unbelievable 206.3, he's averaging 342 yards per game of total offense, and 9.7 yards per play...

Folks, it don't get much better than that... particularly not when the Horns don't really have a single back that scares opposing defenses (I'm not sure, but I think Colt is the team's leading rusher at this point)...

Defensively, they're still a little soft, giving up too many yards, but they've only allowed 11.0 points per game...

Bear how can you not be sure.....of course he is the teams leading rusher. He is probably 100 yds better than the 2nd guy. I liked the way their FB ran tonight. He needs to be used more often during Conference play. Did Tre Newton red-shirt? I know he is at UT, Nate talks about it all the time on the radio, but I have yet to see him play.

As far as the defense goes. I think they did a very good job as the game went on of getting pressure with limited pass rushers. I also think they did a great job of bend but don't break. 12 plays inside the 6 and give up ZERO points was awesome. The spread offense is hard to shut down. I don't mind the yards, as long as they are keeping the opposition off the scoreboard. They can give up 500 yds a game for all I care.....but if they only give up 11 pts per game, they will win.

Colt is a flat out stud. If he enters the draft, He is the QB I want......hands down. He has bulked up and looks amazing. He has grown so much in his time at UT. His accuracy is just sick. His decision making is superb. Of course it helps that he has so much time in the pocket...I am curious how he will respond to constant pressure. In fact, I feel the same about Sam Bradford....Both guys seem to be able to bake a cake and decorate it before throwing a pass.

Ok so did you see Shipley's guns? He is ripped.

[silverbear]

Bear how can you not be sure.....of course he is the teams leading rusher.

Because I hadn't checked the stats yet... LOL...

He is probably 100 yds better than the 2nd guy.

71, actually...

Did Tre Newton red-shirt? I know he is at UT, Nate talks about it all the time on the radio, but I have yet to see him play.

He hasn't played yet, but I don't know if he's redshirting...

How weird is it, big ol' sloppy fat Nate has a son, and the kid's a whip-thin bit of greased lightning?? :D

As far as the defense goes. I think they did a very good job as the game went on of getting pressure with limited pass rushers. I also think they did a great job of bend but don't break.

I only got to see the 3rd quarter as I got ready for work, but the defense was pretty good then... the only score they had was after Chiles fumbled deep in Horns territory...

Colt is a flat out stud. If he enters the draft, He is the QB I want......hands down. He has bulked up and looks amazing.

Saw him tonight with his helmet off, and he doesn't look nearly as baby-faced as he did when he first arrived in Austin...


He has grown so much in his time at UT. His accuracy is just sick. His decision making is superb.

This last is what I've been looking for this season; last year, he made more than a few questionable decisions...

Ok so did you see Shipley's guns? He is ripped.

Must be hangin' out at GNC...

[Biggems]

Because I hadn't checked the stats yet... LOL...



71, actually...



He hasn't played yet, but I don't know if he's redshirting...

How weird is it, big ol' sloppy fat Nate has a son, and the kid's a whip-thin bit of greased lightning?? :D



I only got to see the 3rd quarter as I got ready for work, but the defense was pretty good then... the only score they had was after Chiles fumbled deep in Horns territory...



Saw him tonight with his helmet off, and he doesn't look nearly as baby-faced as he did when he first arrived in Austin...




This last is what I've been looking for this season; last year, he made more than a few questionable decisions...



Must be hangin' out at GNC...


as long as he isnt hangin out with David Boston and Shawne Merriman

[Biggems]

Sam Bradford
rating 214.4
att 81
comp 64
% 79
yds 882
y/a 10.9
y/g 294
td 12
int 2

rush 4
yds 4
y/a 1
y/g 1.3
td 1

o/g 295.3 yards
y/p ?

Colt McCoy
rating 206.3
att 81
comp 63
% 77.8
yds 831
y/a 10.3
y/g 277
tds 11
int 1

car 25
yds 195
y/a 7.8
y/g 65
td 2

o/g 342 yards
y/p 9.7


Bradford has a slight edge in the passing stats, but Colt has a decisive advantage in the rushing stats. Both QBs are having excellent seasons thus far. Both QBs should be near the top of the Heisman candidate list right now.

[Biggems]

Today vs ArKANSAS

17-19
183 yds
89.5%
9.6 ypa
3 TD

9 car
86 yds
9.6 ypc
2 TD

He didn't have a lot of yards, but Texas didn't need many long drives....the most important stat for me is 5 TDs and 0 TOs.

[silverbear]

Today vs ArKANSAS

17-19
183 yds
89.5%
9.6 ypa
3 TD

9 car
86 yds
9.6 ypc
2 TD

He didn't have a lot of yards, but Texas didn't need many long drives....the most important stat for me is 5 TDs and 0 TOs.

Beat me to it, wild man... I'll get you for that, LOL...

So, for the season, McCoy is 80 for 100 (uhhh, I think that's 80.0%), for 1014 yards (253.5 yards per game and 10.1 yards per attempt), 14 TDs and 1 int... that gives him a cumulative quarterback rating of 209.4...

He's added 34 carries for 281 yards (8.3 yards per attempt) and 4 more TDs... he has 134 touches in those 4 games, for 1295 yards and 18 TDs worth of total offense... that's almost 325 yards per game of total offense (even though he's only throwing the ball an average of 25 times a game), and 9.7 yards per touch...

And the Horns are outscoring their opposition 198-36... this time, the opposition was not some sacrificial lamb, but rather an SEC team that was 2-1 going into the game... and it was the third 52-10 victory for the Horns on this young season... with Georgia and USC losing, the Horns-- who were ranked 7th in both polls last week-- should be a top 5 teams in the next polls...

This was the defense's best game, as they held the Razorbacks under 200 yards of total offense, and 3 points (the other TD was an 80 yard fumble return late in the game)...

McCoy is simply having a great season so far... the Horns will be tough for anybody to beat if he keeps on playing like this (I'm mindful that Oklahoma, Missouri and Texas Tech loom)...

[Shady12]

I'm a big Colt fan, and he and the team have played great. BUT, they haven't played anyone even near decent yet. Arkansas is an SEC team that was 2-1 but they SUCK HARDCORE. Their two wins were against non-BCS conference teams (is Western Illinois even I-A I don't know?) and they were squeakers. They got pounded in their other loss by Alabama..no shame in that but they aren't any good.

[Biggems]

Beat me to it, wild man... I'll get you for that, LOL...

So, for the season, McCoy is 80 for 100 (uhhh, I think that's 80.0%), for 1014 yards (253.5 yards per game and 10.1 yards per attempt), 14 TDs and 1 int... that gives him a cumulative quarterback rating of 209.4...

He's added 34 carries for 281 yards (8.3 yards per attempt) and 4 more TDs... he has 134 touches in those 4 games, for 1295 yards and 18 TDs worth of total offense... that's almost 325 yards per game of total offense (even though he's only throwing the ball an average of 25 times a game), and 9.7 yards per touch...

And the Horns are outscoring their opposition 198-36... this time, the opposition was not some sacrificial lamb, but rather an SEC team that was 2-1 going into the game... and it was the third 52-10 victory for the Horns on this young season... with Georgia and USC losing, the Horns-- who were ranked 7th in both polls last week-- should be a top 5 teams in the next polls...

This was the defense's best game, as they held the Razorbacks under 200 yards of total offense, and 3 points (the other TD was an 80 yard fumble return late in the game)...

McCoy is simply having a great season so far... the Horns will be tough for anybody to beat if he keeps on playing like this (I'm mindful that Oklahoma, Missouri and Texas Tech loom)...

ok Bear I am frustrated..........two weeks in a row, 52-3 should have been the final, but Chiles is and his stupid turnovers have helped lead to a TD in each game. I am so sick of Chiles and his horrible decision making. Colt better stay healthy, cause if not, we are screwed. Instead of 43, UT should have only given up 29 this year. So now they are giving up just under 11 a game, instead of the 7.25 they should be giving up. Either way, Muschamp is a Godsend for our defense.......oh and on the offensive side, Applewhite is a Godsend.

[Shady12]

Abolutely..Muschamp is great. About Chiles..he can obviously run the ball..but he's not the electrifying guy I expected as a runner when he was signed. I think McCoy is actually a better runner right now.

[silverbear]

Abolutely..Muschamp is great. About Chiles..he can obviously run the ball..but he's not the electrifying guy I expected as a runner when he was signed. I think McCoy is actually a better runner right now.

Until this year, I never knew Colt was such a threat with his running... :D

[silverbear]

ok Bear I am frustrated..........two weeks in a row, 52-3 should have been the final,

That's like saying you were disappointed in your date with Charlize Theron, 'cause she flatulated after dinner...

[Bonecrusher#31]

Colt aint s#IT...Chase and Bradford are better

You will all see shortly.........BOOMER !!!!!!!!!!!!:laugh2:

[silverbear]

Colt aint s#IT...Chase and Bradford are better

You will all see shortly.........BOOMER !!!!!!!!!!!!:laugh2:

It's 50-50 when it comes to passing (Colt actually has the higher QBR after this week, but only by a fraction of a point-- 209.4 to 209.0), but it ain't even close if you factor in Colt's running ability...

BTW, in most of the civilized world, a "boomer" is a f***... :D

[Biggems]

That's like saying you were disappointed in your date with Charlize Theron, 'cause she flatulated after dinner...


not even close to being the same.......but if she flatulated when i was eatin some salad if you know what i mean....then it might be the same thing.....:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: