Breaking - Democrats release Palin's SS # publicly

[ThaBigP]

Just heard on the radio - I'll get more info when it comes up.

[theogt]

What for?

[ThaBigP]

Opposition reasearch (i.e. talking points) being sent around the media. Red State and Politico got a copy and broke the news.

http://www.redstate.com/

[ThaBigP]

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM41_palin.html

There's a link to the PDF being circulated by AK Dems. Also they release her home addresses.

[VietCowboy]

yeah I see it. It's in there.

[Dallas]

Wow - the crapstorms about to hit the fan.

[Rack Bauer]

With what the demos are resorting to in this election, i'd be surprised if they won.


Freakin' pathetic. I've never been a member of either "Party", I've always voted for who I thought was the better man (or woman, eventually) for the job.


I think it's obvious who the better man is in this race.

[zrinkill]

I really hope this is not true

[trickblue]

Unfortunately this isn't surprising... :(

[ThaBigP]

Dude, Rack, is that a Chevelle you're working on? Hard to tell with just the unibody....good luck - I had 2 '66 Fairlanes when I was a kid - they were actually my first two cars.

Edit - sorry, I didn't read enough to see it was a Charger....anyway, that's always a fun, if expensive, hobby.

[masomenos]

63 pages!? My goodness, this is going to take forever to go through.

[iceberg]

Dude, Rack, is that a Chevelle you're working on? Hard to tell with just the unibody....good luck - I had 2 '66 Fairlanes when I was a kid - they were actually my first two cars.

Edit - sorry, I didn't read enough to see it was a Charger....anyway, that's always a fun, if expensive, hobby.

rack is a definate carman!

as for the ss# getting out - i hope she has theft ID from that company that puts the owners SS# out as well.

[ThaBigP]

Finally hit Drudge. I'd like to think I helped - I submitted it as a news tip as soon as I heard on the radio after it broke on RedState. I'll pretend I did that. Heh.

:rolleyes:

[ConcordCowboy]

It's missing the last four numbers.

How many combinations can you get using 0-9 and a four number combination?

I need some math majors here! :D

[ThaBigP]

By the way, Fred Thompson is set to speak at the convention tonight. Word has hit he's about to tear the media a new one so they'll never be constipated again. Wonder if this will come up there. I tell ya what (in my best Hank Hill voice), that's one dude I'd not want to have to get a lecture from, especially if I deserved it.

http://arkjournal.com/uploaded_images/Fred-Thompson-725939.jpg

[ThaBigP]

It's missing the last four numbers.

How many combinations can you get using 0-9 and a four number combination?

I need some math majors here! :D

10,000

0-9999

But bear in mind with as much other personal info that the released (phone numbers, addresses, etc), it wouldn't take a snoop long to figure out the whole deal. The first 3 digits only indicate the state of birth, can't remember what the middle two indicate.

[ConcordCowboy]

10,000

0-9999

But bear in mind with as much other personal info that the released (phone numbers, addresses, etc), it wouldn't take a snoop long to figure out the whole deal. The first 3 digits only indicate the state of birth, can't remember what the middle two indicate.

Thanks.

[VietCowboy]

just curious, but with her status, what can someone do with her SS#?

[ConcordCowboy]

just curious, but with her status, what can someone do with her SS#?

Well I don't know about everyone else, but I'm going to open a Best Buy account to start.

All kinds of things I want there. :D

[peplaw06]

This piranha mentality from these leftist bloggers (pseudo-media) is frightening. I can't believe that they think that people find this stuff as helpful. It's embarrassing to me.

[iceberg]

just curious, but with her status, what can someone do with her SS#?

then please post yours and let's find out, shall we?

personal privacy is personal privacy and deserves respect as such.

they bonered the donkey kong on this one. period.

[ThaBigP]

then please post yours and let's find out, shall we?

personal privacy is personal privacy and deserves respect as such.

they bonered the donkey kong on this one. period.

"Bonered the Donkey Kong"...Ok, now you're just having fun with those lines (read your wicker stick comment a little bit ago).

[Dallas]

then please post yours and let's find out, shall we?

personal privacy is personal privacy and deserves respect as such.

they bonered the donkey kong on this one. period.


Post your home address and phone number to while you are at it, please. :)

[Viper]

This piranha mentality from these leftist bloggers (pseudo-media) is frightening. I can't believe that they think that people find this stuff as helpful. It's embarrassing to me.

And they call Bush a Nazi.

[iceberg]

Post your home address and phone number to while you are at it, please. :)

i'm not the one saying it's no big deal am i?

i didn't think so. :eek:

[iceberg]

"Bonered the Donkey Kong"...Ok, now you're just having fun with those lines (read your wicker stick comment a little bit ago).

these words haunt my mind. my only salvation is to say something stupid and set them free.

or shut up. there's that too.

[VietCowboy]

then please post yours and let's find out, shall we?

personal privacy is personal privacy and deserves respect as such.

they bonered the donkey kong on this one. period.

um, i never endorsed it. I was asking OUT OF CURIOSITY since she has status, I know what can happen to a normal citizen. How should I know if someone widely-known can be a victim of identity theft. I don't approve of giving out any private information. Thanks for jumping the gun.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Well I don't know about everyone else, but I'm going to open a Best Buy account to start.

All kinds of things I want there. :D

sounds good, I need a DVR and a Blu Ray player, can you me your account after you set it up :D

[iceberg]

um, i never endorsed it. I was asking OUT OF CURIOSITY since she has status, I know what can happen to a normal citizen. How should I know if someone widely-known can be a victim of identity theft. I don't approve of giving out any private information. Thanks for jumping the gun.

given i've sent unsigned checks through the bank, signed my checks when dining "troy aikman" at times and so much more, i don't think they pay attention as long as the system doesn't reject it.

now i need to listen to some meatloaf -jumping the gun!

[Hostile]

i'm not the one saying it's no big deal am i?

i didn't think so. :eek:He was agreeing with you and amplifying info needed to do real damage.

[VietCowboy]

given i've sent unsigned checks through the bank, signed my checks when dining "troy aikman" at times and so much more, i don't think they pay attention as long as the system doesn't reject it.

now i need to listen to some meatloaf -jumping the gun!

thank you, that's what I wanted to know.

[iceberg]

He was agreeing with you and amplifying info needed to do real damage.

you'll have to forgive me. i'm not used to people agreeing with me.

gives me the heebie jeebies.

[iceberg]

thank you, that's what I wanted to know.

oh it's just my guess. if it were stallone or a hollywood name i'm sure they'd recognize it more than a political one.

[Dallas]

He was agreeing with you and amplifying info needed to do real damage.


Heheh. Am I that hard to understand Hos? :confused:


Am I mega fail? :(

[CanadianCowboysFan]

it is no wonder good people refrain from running for office.

It is the same in Canada although to a lesser extent for whatever reason as these kind of moral issues, leaks do not play all that well and can destroy parties like the Progressive Conservatives in 1993 when they made fun of Chretien's facial handicap. They were destroyed at the polls.

The US spent millions to prove Clinton received some oral from Monica, pulled a whole bunch of chicks out of the closet to show he liked getting it with a lot of chicks, the right loved that, the left said it was private.

Bush Jr did drugs as a younger guy, no biggie in my view, people spent money to prove he got out of Vietnam, took drugs, right said it was private, left loved it

Obama knew a guy who knew a guy who was a terrorist sympathizer so therefore Obama must love terrorists, right loved it, left said it's ridiculous.

Now the Sarah chronicles, right is outraged left loves it.

Makes you wonder why anyone would run anymore.

[ConcordCowboy]

sounds good, I need a DVR and a Blu Ray player, can you me your account after you set it up :D

Sure, anything for a Canadian. ;)

[iceberg]

it is no wonder good people refrain from running for office.

dead on agree with you here. with all the crap we put them through then all the whining we do when we don't get our way or choice into office, why bother?

[zrinkill]

it is no wonder good people refrain from running for office.

It is the same in Canada although to a lesser extent for whatever reason as these kind of moral issues, leaks do not play all that well and can destroy parties like the Progressive Conservatives in 1993 when they made fun of Chretien's facial handicap. They were destroyed at the polls.

The US spent millions to prove Clinton received some oral from Monica, pulled a whole bunch of chicks out of the closet to show he liked getting it with a lot of chicks, the right loved that, the left said it was private.

Bush Jr did drugs as a younger guy, no biggie in my view, people spent money to prove he got out of Vietnam, took drugs, right said it was private, left loved it

Obama knew a guy who knew a guy who was a terrorist sympathizer so therefore Obama must love terrorists, right loved it, left said it's ridiculous.

Now the Sarah chronicles, right is outraged left loves it.

Makes you wonder why anyone would run anymore.

Some of us defend both sides from this stupidity ...... Others just pick a side and then act outraged when it happens to their side.

[BrAinPaiNt]

They should be taken to task for giving out a SS# IMO.

You will not see me defend that at all.

[BrAinPaiNt]

By the way, Fred Thompson is set to speak at the convention tonight. Word has hit he's about to tear the media a new one so they'll never be constipated again. Wonder if this will come up there. I tell ya what (in my best Hank Hill voice), that's one dude I'd not want to have to get a lecture from, especially if I deserved it.

http://arkjournal.com/uploaded_images/Fred-Thompson-725939.jpg

:laugh1: If he shows the same amount of energy as he did in his short lived primary run...he might just put people to sleep.

Not a rip on the guy, but man alive did he disappoint me...I guess I was hoping he would pull some Ronny magic out but he just fell flat and looked like he would be rather playing golf or sitting at home.:(

[ScipioCowboy]

:laugh1: If he shows the same amount of energy as he did in his short lived primary run...he might just put people to sleep.

Not a rip on the guy, but man alive did he disappoint me...I guess I was hoping he would pull some Ronny magic out but he just fell flat and looked like he would be rather playing golf or sitting at home.:(

"Ruskies don't take a dump without a plan, son."

Let's see if anyone gets that obscure reference...since I was so taken to task and beaten like a rented mule on the Stripes issue.:)

[BrAinPaiNt]

"Ruskies don't take a dump without a plan, son."

Let's see if anyone gets that obscure reference...since I was so taken to task and beaten like a rented mule on the Stripes issue.:)

Was that hunt for red october? Sounds like something from that movie.

[ScipioCowboy]

Was that hunt for red october? Sounds like something from that movie.

Yes. Hunt for Red October. One of the few movies my dad actually took me to watch.

The line in question was spoken by Fred Thompson's character.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yes. Hunt for Red October. One of the few movies my dad actually took me to watch.

The line in question was spoken by Fred Thompson's character.

CRAZY IVAN!
CRAZY IVAN!

:laugh2:

I like that movie.
Book, as usual, was much better though.

[zrinkill]

Book, as usual, was much better though.

Much ...... for one thing, no Baldwin's ...... :laugh1:

[BrAinPaiNt]

Much ...... for one thing, no Baldwin's ...... :laugh1:

That was one movie where he really did not bug me so much.

Normally both of them bug the crap out of me, this one not so much.

[zrinkill]

That was one movie where he really did not bug me so much.

Normally both of them bug the crap out of me, this one not so much.



I was just joking ..... I actually think he is hysterical.

My favorite skit during the 90's SNL was when he played the gay boyscout leader.

I even think 3rd rock is funny.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I was just joking ..... I actually think he is hysterical.

My favorite skit during the 90's SNL was when he played the gay boyscout leader.

I even think 3rd rock is funny.

The SNL one with the Baldwin that had me in stitches was the Swchetty (sp?) Segments.

But normally he just bugs me in movies.

Normally I don't care about political takes from actors if I think they are good actors. I don't care if Sean Penn is a loony left guy or if heston was a far right guy. I think Sean is a good actor and love heston in the classics.

I think there is only one actor that refuse to watch or buy anything with her in it...that is Jane Fonda.

Which is a shame because I liked on golden pond as a kid but just can not bring myself to watch it again because she is in it.

[zrinkill]

I think there is only one actor that refuse to watch or buy anything with her in it...that is Jane Fonda.

I agree with that .....

I also can not stand Michael Moore.

[Big Dakota]

By the way, Fred Thompson is set to speak at the convention tonight. Word has hit he's about to tear the media a new one so they'll never be constipated again. Wonder if this will come up there. I tell ya what (in my best Hank Hill voice), that's one dude I'd not want to have to get a lecture from, especially if I deserved it.

http://arkjournal.com/uploaded_images/Fred-Thompson-725939.jpg



Kelsey Grammer knows what he'll look like in 10 years.

[NinePointOh]

Uh ... you guys do realize that document was from 2006, right?

And that the home addresses of most public figures, including Barack Obama (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_barack_obama%27s_home_address_in_chicago) and Joe Biden (http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63021393016607770943&lower=3&more_info=1&form_mode=opt_b) are readily available to anyone with a computer?

I can't speak to the SS# thing specifically, since it's blacked out in the document. If it happened, it was very, very wrong. But it was also two years ago, in relation to a completely different campaign. Any attempt to blame Obama for it is completely and utterly dishonest.

[Big Dakota]

Uh ... you guys do realize that document was from 2006, right?

And that the home addresses of most public figures, including Barack Obama (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_barack_obama%27s_home_address_in_chicago) and Joe Biden (http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63021393016607770943&lower=3&more_info=1&form_mode=opt_b) are readily available to anyone with a computer?

I can't speak to the SS# thing specifically, since it's blacked out in the document. If it happened, it was very, very wrong. But it was also two years ago, in relation to a completely different campaign. Any attempt to blame Obama for it is completely and utterly dishonest.


smell the fear:lmao2:

[burmafrd]

Its not Obama- its the crazy sites like Kos and move on. And Obama REFUSES To denounce them.

[adamc91115]

He is bringing the crowd to tears with his stories of Mccains vietnam struggles:rolleyes: ...how many times...really...how many times...its getting so old..plus this old fart sounds like Mr. Ed on the mic.

Why do people on the left get SO mad at the fact that John McCain experienced something so horrible that most of us can't even fathom what he went though?

Is it because John McCain has more life experience and character in his left pinky than Obama has in his whole body?

[burmafrd]

They hate the fact that McCain really is a war hero. Not a made up one like John Kerry.

[yeahyeah]

Why do people on the left get SO mad at the fact that John McCain experienced something so horrible that most of us can't even fathom what he went though?

Is it because John McCain has more life experience and character in his left pinky than Obama has in his whole body?


because its all about diminishing return...yeah its great..thanks for your service...no i dont wanna hear about it over and over.

[VietCowboy]

Why do people on the left get SO mad at the fact that John McCain experienced something so horrible that most of us can't even fathom what he went though?

Is it because John McCain has more life experience and character in his left pinky than Obama has in his whole body?

why would I get mad? I'm sorry?

[yeahyeah]

They hate the fact that McCain really is a war hero. Not a made up one like John Kerry.

John Kerry? John Kerry!?? hahaha.....are you gonna talk about Dukakis or McGovern next?

[Heisenberg]

Why do people on the left get SO mad at the fact that John McCain experienced something so horrible that most of us can't even fathom what he went though?

Is it because John McCain has more life experience and character in his left pinky than Obama has in his whole body?

I know man. I'm so pissed off that he was a POW. :mad:

[burmafrd]

SO Yeah Yeah that means if Kerry is off limits then so is all the others you have brought up from the past. Stinks to be called on that, right?

[NinePointOh]

Its not Obama- its the crazy sites like Kos and move on. And Obama REFUSES To denounce them.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126203

[burmafrd]

OK let me be more specific. During the primaries Obama WENT to events hosted by Daily Kos and Move On and never said anything about the garbage they spew. Still has not.

[iceberg]

why would I get mad? I'm sorry?

he was talking to our resident 4 year old yeahyeah. you know, the one who shows so much respect by his name alone that dismisses any reply before given.

[SuspectCorner]

you'll have to forgive me. i'm not used to people agreeing with me.

gives me the heebie jeebies.

Man, do I ever know where from where you speak. :D

[ThaBigP]

Uh ... you guys do realize that document was from 2006, right?

And that the home addresses of most public figures, including Barack Obama (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_barack_obama%27s_home_address_in_chicago) and Joe Biden (http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=63021393016607770943&lower=3&more_info=1&form_mode=opt_b) are readily available to anyone with a computer?

I can't speak to the SS# thing specifically, since it's blacked out in the document. If it happened, it was very, very wrong. But it was also two years ago, in relation to a completely different campaign. Any attempt to blame Obama for it is completely and utterly dishonest.

Yes, it's true the doc was from '06 - but it's being circulated now apparently, for obvious reasons. So now it's become an issue.

[iceberg]

Yes, it's true the doc was from '06 - but it's being circulated now apparently, for obvious reasons. So now it's become an issue.

digging it up - showing off your newly farmed anti-other-dude turds.

shine 'em up!

[Cajuncowboy]

Obama knew a guy who knew a guy who was a terrorist sympathizer so therefore Obama must love terrorists, right loved it, left said it's ridiculous.


Gotta get this right. Obama KNEW the terrorist and worked WITH the terrorist.

Why the heck would you want to minimize that?

As a matter of fact, he even said in one of his now famous line, "That's not the Bill Ayers I know". :bang2:

[AtlCB]

it is no wonder good people refrain from running for office.

It is the same in Canada although to a lesser extent for whatever reason as these kind of moral issues, leaks do not play all that well and can destroy parties like the Progressive Conservatives in 1993 when they made fun of Chretien's facial handicap. They were destroyed at the polls.

The US spent millions to prove Clinton received some oral from Monica, pulled a whole bunch of chicks out of the closet to show he liked getting it with a lot of chicks, the right loved that, the left said it was private.

Bush Jr did drugs as a younger guy, no biggie in my view, people spent money to prove he got out of Vietnam, took drugs, right said it was private, left loved it

Obama knew a guy who knew a guy who was a terrorist sympathizer so therefore Obama must love terrorists, right loved it, left said it's ridiculous.

Now the Sarah chronicles, right is outraged left loves it.

Makes you wonder why anyone would run anymore.Actually, the Monica Lewinsky scandal occurred as part of a civil trial brought by Paula Jones. The big problem was perjury - not infidelity.

We wasted millions on that ridiculous Whitewater garbage that, in the end, proved nothing.

[burmafrd]

Or how about the Walsh probe- which was very interestingly put out the Friday before the election. Compare the results (who actually got put into jail) and Whitewater did better then Irangate.

[NinePointOh]

Yes, it's true the doc was from '06 - but it's being circulated now apparently, for obvious reasons.

According to what source? The OP cited Politico.com, and the article there specifically states that a campaign spokesperson suggested "the Obama campaign wouldn’t be recycling the 2006 Democratic criticism of Palin" and that the document "was not obtained from the Obama campaign."

RedState.com, the other site that "broke" the news, has since updated (http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/sep/02/breaking-democrats-release-sarah-palins-soc/) its story by saying, essentially, that their source was Politico, and that they have no idea the document actually came from.

[iceberg]

According to what source? The OP cited Politico.com, and the article there specifically states that a campaign spokesperson suggested "the Obama campaign wouldn’t be recycling the 2006 Democratic criticism of Palin" and that the document "was not obtained from the Obama campaign."

RedState.com, the other site that "broke" the news, has since updated (http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/sep/02/breaking-democrats-release-sarah-palins-soc/) its story by saying, essentially, that their source was Politico, and that they have no idea the document actually came from.

to all those defending obama on this one - let me simply ask this. while you may be right and he had nothing to do with it (i hope not) if this was done TO obama, would you be as defensive to the mccain camp or would you just jeer at the evil repubs and say that's how they roll?

soemthing tells me #2 is the honest answer, unfortunately.

[NinePointOh]

to all those defending obama on this one - let me simply ask this. while you may be right and he had nothing to do with it (i hope not) if this was done TO obama, would you be as defensive to the mccain camp or would you just jeer at the evil repubs and say that's how they roll?

soemthing tells me #2 is the honest answer, unfortunately.

You don't need the hypothetical scenario about the shoe being on theother foot. I and others in this thread have already said that the release of the social security number was very wrong. The problem is the knee-jerk reaction that every unsavory story has to be some disgustingly offensive Obama conspiracy to smear Sarah Palin.

For that matter, now that you've made a point of this, I haven't seen a whole lot of McCain supporters defending Obama against much of anything. That makes your attempt to claim the moral high ground here pretty darn weak.

[Jarv]

You don't need the hypothetical scenario about the shoe being on theother foot. I and others in this thread have already said that the release of the social security number was very wrong. The problem is the knee-jerk reaction that every unsavory story has to be some disgustingly offensive Obama conspiracy to smear Sarah Palin.

For that matter, now that you've made a point of this, I haven't seen a whole lot of McCain supporters defending Obama against much of anything. That makes your attempt to claim the moral high ground here pretty darn weak.

Last thing we need is a president that needs defending from his opponent.

The Libs are proving to be more intent on trashing someone than winning on substance, but were all kinda used to that from them now.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Last thing we need is a president that needs defending from his opponent.

The Libs are proving to be more intent on trashing someone than winning on substance, but were all kinda used to that from them now.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

It is the same for both parties.

Please...W and his campaigns vs Kerry and even McCain.

McCains Campaign against Obama and the stupidity of the paris hilton ad.

Come on, both sides do it.

[iceberg]

You don't need the hypothetical scenario about the shoe being on theother foot. I and others in this thread have already said that the release of the social security number was very wrong. The problem is the knee-jerk reaction that every unsavory story has to be some disgustingly offensive Obama conspiracy to smear Sarah Palin.

For that matter, now that you've made a point of this, I haven't seen a whole lot of McCain supporters defending Obama against much of anything. That makes your attempt to claim the moral high ground here pretty darn weak.

i'm not taking the high road, this is where i live dude. so thank you for the hypocritical implications w/o bothering to check my own record. check out obama's brothers thread and see where i stood on that one quite openly and "passionately".

my question was to all obama supporters and i'd have thought that was given up when i said "to all obama supporters".

i've seen a lot more conservative type people defend the other side than i've seen the liberal side defend conservatives.

in the end, there's a whole lot more of us in the middle tired of having to worry about who's on what freaking side.

[iceberg]

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

It is the same for both parties.

Please...W and his campaigns vs Kerry and even McCain.

McCains Campaign against Obama and the stupidity of the paris hilton ad.

Come on, both sides do it.

i hear that a lot. "both sides do it".

so we just let it go? in the immortal words of george jetson "jane, how do we stop this crazy thing!!!???"

not by allowing it to go on.

[NinePointOh]

Last thing we need is a president that needs defending from his opponent.

That wasn't really the issue, but either way -- take it up with iceberg, not me.

The Libs are proving to be more intent on trashing someone than winning on substance, but were all kinda used to that from them now.Yes, and by "substance" you mean perpetuating false rumors that your opponent is a Muslim, funds radical terrorism, and matches the Bible's description of the anti- , right?

Be honest with yourself. This garbage flies both ways in every campaign. Anyone who thinks it's just the libs or the neo-cons is fooling himself.

[BrAinPaiNt]

i hear that a lot. "both sides do it".

so we just let it go? in the immortal words of george jetson "jane, how do we stop this crazy thing!!!???"

not by allowing it to go on.

I have said many times, two wrongs don't make a right. But at the same time I am not going to watch someone say that and let it go either.

[zrinkill]

I haven't seen a whole lot of McCain supporters defending Obama against much of anything.

I have defended him against every stupid case made against him, so you must not be paying attention.

Edited because of my mistake.

[NinePointOh]

I have defended him against every stupid case made against him so you must not be paying attention ..... must have been to busy looking up dirt on a 17 year old girl.

Uh, wow ... that was needlessly vitriolic. I didn't say a word about you personally, and I've never once attacked Palin's daughter. Go find a new bogeyman.

[zrinkill]

Uh, wow ... that was needlessly vitriolic. I didn't say a word about you personally, and I've never once attacked Palin's daughter. Go find a new bogeyman.


You are correct .... its early and I confused you with the other one who has.

I apologize for saying that ...... I was wrong.

[Hostile]

You don't need the hypothetical scenario about the shoe being on theother foot. I and others in this thread have already said that the release of the social security number was very wrong. The problem is the knee-jerk reaction that every unsavory story has to be some disgustingly offensive Obama conspiracy to smear Sarah Palin.

For that matter, now that you've made a point of this, I haven't seen a whole lot of McCain supporters defending Obama against much of anything. That makes your attempt to claim the moral high ground here pretty darn weak.I do, but I'm not a Conservative or a Liberal. I'm a little of both. I probably do lean more Conservative. I admit that.

I've openly said I am voting for McCain because he's from Arizona. Not because of his Political Party. I don't believe the Party matters.

During the whole Reverend Wright stuff I separated Wright from Obama, said Obama's speech condemning the words of Wright was one of the best I had ever heard, openly rejoiced when he made headway against Hilary (whom I just don't like), applauded him when he refused to get involved in the gutter politics of lambasting Palin's daughter, and have said many times, "I like the guy."

I've also said if he wins it will be fine with me.

[iceberg]

I have said many times, two wrongs don't make a right. But at the same time I am not going to watch someone say that and let it go either.

yea, i know. at times it seems we're just caught in the middle of children being children and all we can do is wait for them to grow up. being human sure can be frustrating at times. :)

[iceberg]

You are correct .... its early and I confused you with the other one who has.

I apologize for saying that ...... I was wrong.

not seen too many liberals do that. : ) usually they say it's someone elses fault and run away or find some other "excuse" to hide behind.

writers note - yes i'm talking about a stereotype of sorts but i'm not assuing any one persons values based off the typical impressions of that group. : )

[AbeBeta]

Here is RedState's update of the story:

UPDATE:

The Alaska Democratic Party says it did not release the information. From Ben Smith, at the Politico, I got this:

Our story doesn't say that "Alaska Democrats" gave us that document. It was a document prepared for Tony Knowles two years ago. We haven't revealed our source.

You should also note that it's a partially REDACTED social security number. That seems relevant. If less sensational. It's missing four digits.
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I expect that information like this is prepared on pretty much every candidate in any major election. It shouldn't have leaked - that's more the problem than the actual document to me.

I gotta ask - is it right for tons of blogs to make this information publicly available when it was not previously? Seems like the blogs made the number far more public than the initial leak did.

[iceberg]

I gotta ask - is it right for tons of blogs to make this information publicly available when it was not previously? Seems like the blogs made the number far more public than the initial leak did.

no. it's not right. but "the other side did it" so they will and have a ready made excuse to hide behind vs. growing up individually.

and yea, she got known by a LOT more people, so "the petty" will have their say. get glib in a "look who i beat up!" type fashion.

we're not a very mature "online" world. that's gonna take awhile.

[Rack Bauer]

Here is RedState's update of the story:

UPDATE:

The Alaska Democratic Party says it did not release the information.

Didn't expect them to come out and admit they released the info, did you?



I could see it now... Obama: "Yeah we released her SS info. We were just messing around though. Just joking, Palin!"

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Didn't expect them to come out and admit they released the info, did you?



I could see it now... Obama: "Yeah we released her SS info. We were just messing around though. Just joking, Palin!"

Not my point at all - it was a mistake for the podunk Alaska democratic party to have leaked the information and to not have that stuff secured (as I noted in the earlier post). However, this information was seen by far far more people because it appeared on some many conservative blogs and new sites. Sorta begs the question of just who doing more to make the SS number public.

[Viper]

Not my point at all - it was a mistake for the podunk Alaska democratic party to have leaked the information and to not have that stuff secured (as I noted in the earlier post). However, this information was seen by far far more people because it appeared on some many conservative blogs and new sites. Sorta begs the question of just who doing more to make the SS number public.

Liberals release it, but it's the conservatives fault... got it.

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Liberals release it, but it's the conservatives fault... got it.

No, what I said was the the conservative did far more to make the number publicly available than did the liberals. What liberal blogs did you see this on? Any?