Michelle the radical racist

[dbair1967]

According to Snopes.com, Princeton was requested to put a
'restriction' on distribution
of any copies of the thesis of Michelle Obama (a/k/a/ Michelle
laVaughn Robinson) saying
it could not be made available until November 5, 2008 but when it was
published on a
political website they decided they would lift the restriction.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/thesis.asp

Subj: Thesis - Michele Obama aka Michelle LaVaughn Robinson

OBAMA'S MILITANT RACISM REVEALED

In her senior thesis at Princeton, Michele Obama, the wife of Barack Obama
stated that America was a nation founded on 'crime and hatred'.
Moreover, she stated that whites in America were 'ineradicably racist'. The
1985 thesis, titled 'Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community' was
written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.
Michelle Obama stated in her thesis that to 'Whites at Princeton , it often
seems as if, to them, she will always be Black first...' However, it
was reported
by a fellow black classmate, 'If those 'Whites at Princeton ' really
saw Michelle
as one who always would 'be Black first,' it seems that she gave them that
impression'.
Most alarming is Michele Obama's use of the terms 'separationist' and
'integrationist' when describing the views of black people.
Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a 'separationist' view of race.
'By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as
a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand
the desperation
of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an
integrationist who is ignorant to their plight.'
Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to
her 'further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and
social structure
that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never
becoming a full
participant.' Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.
Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America , but
she elevates black over white in her world.


Here is another passage that is uncomfortable and ominous in meaning:
'There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black
community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize
all of my present and future resources to benefit the black
community first and foremost.'
What is Michelle Obama planning to do with her future resources if she's first
lady that will elevate black over white in America ?
The following passage appears to be a call to arms for affirmative action
policies that could be the hallmark of an Obama administration.
'Predominately white universities like Princeton are socially and academically
designed to cater to the needs of the white students comprising the bulk of
their enrollments.'


The conclusion of her thesis is alarming.

Michelle Obama's poll of black alumni concludes that other black students
at Princeton do not share her obsession with blackness. But rather than
celebrate, she is horrified that black alumni identify with our common
American culture more than they value the color of their skin. 'I hoped that
these findings would help me conclude that despite the high degree of
identification with whites as a result of the educat ional and occupational
path that black Princeton alumni follow, the alumni would still maintain a
certain level of identification with the black community. However, these
findings do not support this possibility.'

Is it no wonder that most black alumni ignored her racist questionnaire?
Only 89 students responded out of 400 who were asked for input.
Michelle Obama does not look into a crowd of Obama supporters and see
Americans. She sees black people and white people eternally conflicted
with one another.

The thesis provides a trove of Mrs. Obama's thoughts and world view seen

through a race-based prism. This is a very divisive view for a potential first

lady that would do untold damage to race relations in this country in a

Barack Obama administration.



Michelle Obama's intellectually refined racism should give all Americans

pause for deep concern. Now maybe she's changed, but she sure sounds

like someone with an axe to grind with America.

Will the press let Michelle get a free pass over her obviously racist comment

about American whites?

I am sure that it will.

PS: We paid for her scholarship.

[masomenos]

email forward?

[Cajuncowboy]

email forward?

Click the link to see for yourself if it's true.

[VietCowboy]

I would have to read her thesis first. I know things can get taken out of context easily.

[dbair1967]

I would have to read her thesis first. I know things can get taken out of context easily.

Funny how that happens so much with the Obama's isnt it.

[Cajuncowboy]

Funny how that happens so much with the Obama's isnt it.

Sure is...

Like the time Nobama said "That's not the Bill ayers I know."

Or Michelle "For the first time in my life I'm proud of my country."

Or Nobama when he said of Wright, "He's my Pastor and Mentor."

:lmao2:

[masomenos]

Click the link to see for yourself if it's true.

Oh I'm not debating that she wrote it, I've seen it before. The strange formatting of the post just strikes me as being copied from an email, that's all.

In response to some of the other posters who have wondered if things have been taken out of context at all, one must simply read the Snopes link for an example near the bottom of the page.

[zrinkill]

Goodlord .......

It's a constant stream of gutter politics from both sides.

I am ashamed of the American voters.

[bbgun]

I don't think she's a racist. She's just a typical left-wing racial grievance monger.

[REDVOLUTION]

I havent read it yet... just the piece in the article.


IF she has such a radical view - why? Because society/people created racism. You can understand if she does. BUT it would not suprise me. Something is plain to see in her face. Maybe its that.

IF it was taken out of context. No biggie. Moveon.

[Cajuncowboy]

Goodlord .......

It's a constant stream of gutter politics from both sides.

I am ashamed of the American voters.

Zrin, showing ones comments and affirming their relationships is not gutter politics.

It would be if these were not facts and just rumor. I agree the whole Muslim thing is off base and some other things but what I posted were actual quotes from Obama.

Don't you think it's perfectly fine to let their own words indict them?

[dbair1967]

Goodlord .......

It's a constant stream of gutter politics from both sides.

I am ashamed of the American voters.

Not sure I see how this thread was gutter politics...its a story on her thesis, which she did write, which her school (and Obama's people) fought hard to not allow released (for a reason)

Obama and his wife have had NOWHERE near the scrutiny that Palin has, and there's eons more material that people should be informed on about them. Whats worse is Palin has been in this for only a few days and has suffered extreme scrutinism and bias, while Obama has been at it almost two years with a free ride.

[zrinkill]

Zrin, showing ones comments and affirming their relationships is not gutter politics.

It would be if these were not facts and just rumor. I agree the whole Muslim thing is off base and some other things but what I posted were actual quotes from Obama.

Don't you think it's perfectly fine to let their own words indict them?


Cajun I am not calling you out man.

Its just this constant bitter angry sleazy election after the months of hearing these people talk about how this would be a different kind of election.

I am close to having my fill.

[Cajuncowboy]

Cajun I am not calling you out man.

Its just this constant bitter angry sleazy election after the months of hearing these people talk about how this would be a different kind of election.

I am close to having my fill.

Gotcha. It was on the heels of my post so I thought it was directed at that. We're good.

And yes, I wished it would stop as well but I doubt it EVER will.

[dbair1967]

Cajun I am not calling you out man.

Its just this constant bitter angry sleazy election after the months of hearing these people talk about how this would be a different kind of election.

I am close to having my fill.

we all are.

Obama's speech the other night and his whole campaign scream of massive hypocrisy.

But the way they do things is the only way they can have a chance, because they fail so much when it comes to the real issues and having a real plan.

[dbair1967]

And yes, I wished it would stop as well but I doubt it EVER will.

I agree it may never stop, but when the American public finally comes to their senses and deals a swooping, massive blow to people who engage in this by voting all of the people who practice this out, it might slow down

The other thing that would help greatly is term limits. If people couldnt make a career out of being nothing but selfish losers who cared nothing about anything other than keeping themselves in Washington, we'd all be better off.

[Cajuncowboy]

The other thing that would help greatly is term limits. If people couldnt make a career out of being nothing but selfish losers who cared nothing about anything other than keeping themselves in Washington, we'd all be better off.

AMEN! PREACH IT BROTHER!

[zrinkill]

we all are.

Obama's speech the other night and his whole campaign scream of massive hypocrisy.

But the way they do things is the only way they can have a chance, because they fail so much when it comes to the real issues and having a real plan.

Dbair I was not calling you out either, this just happened to be the thread I expressed that in

..... I just really hoped that both candidates would try to keep this election as clean as possible.

I really hoped this election could be about the issues ...... instead of McCain cheating on his wife 30 years ago ...... or Michele writing an angry paper in the 80's ..... or how "screwed up" is Palins family ...... or which of Obama's friends are racist ....

Then last week they find a plot to assassinate Obama .... and today some nut tries to blow up Palin.

I know I should have known better ..... but Damn.

[Cajuncowboy]

Dbair I was not calling you out either, this just happened to be the thread I expressed that in

..... I just really hoped that both candidates would try to keep this election as clean as possible.

I really hoped this election could be about the issues ...... instead of McCain cheating on his wife 30 years ago ...... or Michele writing an angry paper in the 80's ..... or how "screwed up" is Palins family ...... or which of Obama's friends are racist ....

Then last week they find a plot to assassinate Obama .... and today some nut tries to blow up Palin.

I know I should have known better ..... but Damn.

I've been in meetings all day and didn't hear about blowing up Palin. What the heck. Guess I'll go and look that one up.

Freakin' idiots.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Dbair I was not calling you out either, this just happened to be the thread I expressed that in

..... I just really hoped that both candidates would try to keep this election as clean as possible.

I really hoped this election could be about the issues ...... instead of McCain cheating on his wife 30 years ago ...... or Michele writing an angry paper in the 80's ..... or how "screwed up" is Palins family ...... or which of Obama's friends are racist ....

Then last week they find a plot to assassinate Obama .... and today some nut tries to blow up Palin.

I know I should have known better ..... but Damn.

you need to move off the world where the sky is pink. While like you I wish politicians could discuss issues, that will never happen.

[zrinkill]

you need to move off the world where the sky is pink.

:rolleyes: .... I do not think if you knew my past you would think I lived there.


While like you I wish politicians could discuss issues, that will never happen.

Because of people who continue the cycle.

And thats as honest as I can be to you CC.

[Cajuncowboy]

you need to move off the world where the sky is pink. While like you I wish politicians could discuss issues, that will never happen.

CCF, I want to ask you a serious question. This isn't a slam but I really wonder about it.

Why do you care about what happens politically in this country? I mean, we are still gonna be the the big brother to Canada and help protect you. We will still have a good neighborly partner with you. I mean what difference does it make. because honestly, I really don't give a rip (no offense) about what you people do as far as electing your leaders.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

CCF, I want to ask you a serious question. This isn't a slam but I really wonder about it.

Why do you care about what happens politically in this country? I mean, we are still gonna be the the big brother to Canada and help protect you. We will still have a good neighborly partner with you. I mean what difference does it make. because honestly, I really don't give a rip (no offense) about what you people do as far as electing your leaders.

so you are the latest to join the "why do you post here" line. When the moderators put up a barrier that says only Americans can post on this part of the forum, then I will stop.

Last time I checked, there was no such barrier.

American policies affect Canada, when you sleep next to an elephant, he might roll over and crush you even if unintentionally.

Actually you have one thing wrong though, the US is really our big sister, not our big brother.

Ah screw it, it really isn't worth having to justify my posts so maybe I won't post here for awhile. Then again I guarantee someone on the football side will ask "why do you post here, why aren't following the CFL, or what do you know about football, you are Canadian".

Of course Cajun I could also ask you what right you have to criticize the school system and what it teaches, you home school so why do you care?

Kiss night

[SuspectCorner]

Michelle Obama's thesis was written twenty years ago. So it couldn't possibly be that her thinking has changed one iota, much less significantly, based on her own life experiences in that span? I can't speak for Mrs. Obama but I CAN say - I often laugh when I think back about who I was and what I thought I knew twenty years ago.

She made some observations based on the data provided by respondents - so what?

IT MUST BE ETCHED IN STONE.

Life has a funny way of causing your thinking to transition. Not that I see any reason for her to have defend her conclusions drawn twenty years ago. If any of us are made extremely uncomfortable by them - this response may be the evidence that there is some validity to them.

[VietCowboy]

Michelle Obama's thesis was written twenty years ago. So it couldn't possibly be that her thinking has changed one iota, much less significantly, based on her own life experiences in that span? I can't speak for Mrs. Obama but I CAN say - I often laugh when I think back about who I was and what I thought I knew twenty years ago.

She made some observations based on the data provided by respondents - so what?

IT MUST BE ETCHED IN STONE.

Life has a funny way of causing your thinking to transition. Not that I see any reason for her to have defend her conclusions drawn twenty years ago.

back then someone didn't like MLK enough or what he'd done to see why we should celebrate his birthday. Right? :rolleyes:

[Cajuncowboy]

so you are the latest to join the "why do you post here" line. When the moderators put up a barrier that says only Americans can post on this part of the forum, then I will stop.

Last time I checked, there was no such barrier.

American policies affect Canada, when you sleep next to an elephant, he might roll over and crush you even if unintentionally.

Actually you have one thing wrong though, the US is really our big sister, not our big brother.

Ah screw it, it really isn't worth having to justify my posts so maybe I won't post here for awhile. Then again I guarantee someone on the football side will ask "why do you post here, why aren't following the CFL, or what do you know about football, you are Canadian".

Of course Cajun I could also ask you what right you have to criticize the school system and what it teaches, you home school so why do you care?

Kiss night

Geez, no wonder you post like you do. You are such an uptight person. I asked an honest question and I get that???

I never said you should stop posting here. I actually welcome it. I vehemently disagree with you as most do but I just wanted to know what your motivation was.

I guess I understand you better from that response. You are bitter and high strung. Nice way to respond.

Oh and I care what it teaches because the majority of kids are public school students. And when they are taught things that are counter to the truth or they are warped in their thinking, and they end up growing up and becoming the new leadership of THIS country, I care that they have a good foundation of truth and what this country was founded on.

As for the Big sister, you really feel good about having your big sister protect you???

[Cajuncowboy]

Michelle Obama's thesis was written twenty years ago. So it couldn't possibly be that her thinking has changed one iota, much less significantly, based on her own life experiences in that span? I can't speak for Mrs. Obama but I CAN say - I often laugh when I think back about who I was and what I thought I knew twenty years ago.

She made some observations based on the data provided by respondents - so what?

IT MUST BE ETCHED IN STONE.

Life has a funny way of causing your thinking to transition. Not that I see any reason for her to have defend her conclusions drawn twenty years ago. If any of us are made extremely uncomfortable by them - this response may be the evidence that there is some validity to them.

Well obviously she wasn't proud then and until recently, (When her hubby was getting some press) that she was proud for the first time in her life of America. I guess maybe she didn't change that much in 20 years.

[vta]

so you are the latest to join the "why do you post here" line. When the moderators put up a barrier that says only Americans can post on this part of the forum, then I will stop.

Last time I checked, there was no such barrier.

American policies affect Canada, when you sleep next to an elephant, he might roll over and crush you even if unintentionally.

Actually you have one thing wrong though, the US is really our big sister, not our big brother.

Ah screw it, it really isn't worth having to justify my posts so maybe I won't post here for awhile. Then again I guarantee someone on the football side will ask "why do you post here, why aren't following the CFL, or what do you know about football, you are Canadian".

Of course Cajun I could also ask you what right you have to criticize the school system and what it teaches, you home school so why do you care?

Kiss night

You are one of the few 'outside' voices on this board, so it's easy to see why there would be a reaction like this. On other political boards there's more of a balance and it's never in question, why they would comment on United States policy. As an obvious global power, the answer is obvious.

Just keep posting; it's good to know what people from other countries think, even when it hurts. If you're wrong, you won't be at a loss for people who'll tell you so, if not, you'll be told Canada doesn't matter. ;)

[SuspectCorner]

Well obviously she wasn't proud then and until recently, (When her hubby was getting some press) that she was proud for the first time in her life of America. I guess maybe she didn't change that much in 20 years.

So how's the view from Shangri-La? :D

[poke]

Not sure I see how this thread was gutter politics...its a story on her thesis, which she did write, which her school (and Obama's people) fought hard to not allow released (for a reason)

Obama and his wife have had NOWHERE near the scrutiny that Palin has, and there's eons more material that people should be informed on about them. Whats worse is Palin has been in this for only a few days and has suffered extreme scrutinism and bias, while Obama has been at it almost two years with a free ride.

i cant say i believe that part

[Cajuncowboy]

So how's the view from Shangri-La? :D

How's the view from "My posts don't actually address anything" land???? :rolleyes:

[Cajuncowboy]

You are one of the few 'outside' voices on this board, so it's easy to see why there would be a reaction like this. On other political boards there's more of a balance and it's never in question, why they would comment on United States policy. As an obvious global power, the answer is obvious.

Just keep posting; it's good to know what people from other countries think, even when it hurts. If you're wrong, you won't be at a loss for people who'll tell you so, if not, you'll be told Canada doesn't matter. ;)

Yeah, As I said, I don't care that he posts here. again I welcome it. just wondered what his big deal was because he is so adamant about imposing HIS views on our government.

[bbgun]

I really hoped this election could be about the issues ...... instead of McCain cheating on his wife 30 years ago ...... or Michele writing an angry paper in the 80's ..... or how "screwed up" is Palins family ...... or which of Obama's friends are racist ....

I could post a million articles implying that Obama is Satan's Spawn, and the Left could do the same to McCain. Number of minds changed in the process? Zero. So why do we bother?

[CanadianCowboysFan]

You are one of the few 'outside' voices on this board, so it's easy to see why there would be a reaction like this. On other political boards there's more of a balance and it's never in question, why they would comment on United States policy. As an obvious global power, the answer is obvious.

Just keep posting; it's good to know what people from other countries think, even when it hurts. If you're wrong, you won't be at a loss for people who'll tell you so, if not, you'll be told Canada doesn't matter. ;)

I figure there usually is nothing to say in response when I get the "Canada doesn't matter" line ;)

anyway for all people know here, I might have been a US history or poli sci major in university. :p:

[Jarv]

I agree it may never stop, but when the American public finally comes to their senses and deals a swooping, massive blow to people who engage in this by voting all of the people who practice this out, it might slow down

The other thing that would help greatly is term limits. If people couldnt make a career out of being nothing but selfish losers who cared nothing about anything other than keeping themselves in Washington, we'd all be better off.

YES!!!!!

:bow:

[Cajuncowboy]

I figure there usually is nothing to say in response when I get the "Canada doesn't matter" line ;)

anyway for all people know here, I might have been a US history or poli sci major in university. :p:

So someone can't ask an honest question without the asinine response?

[dbair1967]

Michelle Obama's thesis was written twenty years ago. So it couldn't possibly be that her thinking has changed one iota, much less significantly, based on her own life experiences in that span? I can't speak for Mrs. Obama but I CAN say - I often laugh when I think back about who I was and what I thought I knew twenty years ago.

.

I can give you that, people can and do change. I hope for her sake she has changed.

The thing is though, both she and her husband went to Wright's church for all that time, and we know what he is about. If she had changed, or niether of them thought like he did, they shouldnt have stayed. The first time he spewed his racist, anti-American garbage they should have got up and walked out.

[dbair1967]

i cant say i believe that part

msnbc watcher eh?

wake up dude

David

[REDVOLUTION]

Michelle Obama's thesis was written twenty years ago. So it couldn't possibly be that her thinking has changed one iota, much less significantly, based on her own life experiences in that span?

Agreed it could have. She has said things here and there to the contrary. So I dont know.... yet.



I can give you that, people can and do change. I hope for her sake she has changed.

The thing is though, both she and her husband went to Wright's church for all that time, and we know what he is about. If she had changed, or niether of them thought like he did, they shouldnt have stayed. The first time he spewed his racist, anti-American garbage they should have got up and walked out.


That is true.

[poke]

msnbc watcher eh?

wake up dude

David

nope not a big news watcher at all to be honest, common sense just tells
me that in the few days Palin has been a hot topic she couldnt have gotten
as much press, or scrutiny as Obama has in the months he has been in the national spotlight.
and before you assume i have already voted for Obama, i have not.
to go even further i have probably voted for as many repubs as i have demos.
i knew i shouldnt have posted in this zone......goodnight

[burmafrd]

Suspect- the ONUS is on HER to prove she HAS changed. Do you have anything?

[ThreeSportStar80]

Oh my goodness, no wonder I can't stand majority of you posters.

[JBond]

I don't think she's a racist. She's just a typical left-wing racial grievance monger.

Bingo...$$$

[numnuts23]

Well Europe isn't too far away. I'm sure I could help you find a one-way ticket.

[Cajuncowboy]

Well Europe isn't too far away. I'm sure I could help you find a one-way ticket.

I'm in.

[numnuts23]

I'm in.

Maybe the mods can make a Sticky

[zrinkill]

Oh my goodness, no wonder I can't stand majority of you posters.

After what you just said about the Country I love and defended and the Country that my dear friend gave his life for .....

Trust me the feeling is mutual.

[Cajuncowboy]

After what you just said about the Country I love and defended and the Country that my dear friend gave his life for .....

Trust me the feeling is mutual.

Vial, hate filled, and worse. For everyone of us who ever served this country, that was a slap in the face and was despicable.

[REDVOLUTION]

Any FACT Filled updates on this?

Is the thesis for real? Did she write it?

I dont see or hear about it anywhere?

[zrinkill]

Any FACT Filled updates on this?

Is the thesis for real? Did she write it?

I dont see or hear about it anywhere?

Its real.

But it was 20 years ago when she was angry and in college.

I was angry at that age as well.

[VietCowboy]

Any FACT Filled updates on this?

Is the thesis for real? Did she write it?

I dont see or hear about it anywhere?

It's real, but I would have to say, I didn't read it. I don't know what the atmosphere was like at Princeton, but having gone to a similar school, we are in 2008 and people still believe that minorities self-segregate themselves when they take classes about their culture or live in a dorm that promotes their culture, blame them for taking the spot of a more deserving "white" student, and the general lack of interest of most non-minorities and even some minorities in learning about the other cultures unless it involved food and skits/dancing. Of course, these have been my observations only, but I doubt I am far off.

[iceberg]

Goodlord .......

It's a constant stream of gutter politics from both sides.

I am ashamed of the American voters.

people like to take any nugget they can find to keep their own fears alive. maybe she does harbor some feelings like that, but it was this country that gave those to her and she has her right to speak up about it. it was also long ago and in college. we're all trying to figure out life at that point. i know i still am.

i don't know what she wrote and to be honest, don't really care. this is going after the family and crosses that line i don't like crossed for either side.

[dbair1967]

Its real.

But it was 20 years ago when she was angry and in college.

I was angry at that age as well.

Thats true, and I did acknowledge one guy that this could be the case, hopefully she has changed.

But I also cant ignore her and her hubby spending all that time in Wright's church. If she had really changed, she wouldnt have stayed, and niether would he.

[Cajuncowboy]

Its real.

But it was 20 years ago when she was angry and in college.

I was angry at that age as well.

It was the fact that not only did she write it 20 years ago, but as recently as this year she had attended a racist church. Plus the fact that the Nobama campaign tried to suppress it by attempting to block it's release it doesn't take much mental gymnastics to draw a conclusion that she and quite probably her husband as well still harbor these views.

Further, she has neither repudiated her thesis nor has the campaign itself.

[Bach]

Maybe the mods can make a Sticky

:puke:

[numnuts23]

:puke:

The sticky comment was a joke, saying maybe the mods could put one up top with donations for the one way ticket to Europe for the poster on here who decided to bash the US with his comments.

Not about putting Michelle's opinions on there.