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REDVOLUTION

09-04-2008, 10:11 PM

I wonder if Heart gets any royalties for Sarah Palin's NEW(old) theme song?

:lmao2:

the fake norm hitzges

09-04-2008, 10:19 PM

if heart are liberals they are probably filing a lawsuit

Big Dakota

09-04-2008, 10:24 PM

adamc91115

09-04-2008, 10:25 PM

AbeBeta

09-04-2008, 10:39 PM

if heart are liberals they are probably filing a lawsuit

Born in the USA baby.

VietCowboy

09-05-2008, 12:52 AM

if heart are liberals they are probably filing a lawsuit

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/05/mccain-palin-embrace-barracuda/

ST. PAUL, Minnesota (CNN) — Blasting through the Republican convention hall is the 1977 hit "Barracuda" by rock band Heart.

It's a shout-out to Sarah Palin. When she played basketball in high school, the soon-to-be Republican vice presidential nominee earned the nickname "Sarah barracuda" for her fierce competitiveness.

Some of her opponents revived the "Sarah barracuda" nickname after she became mayor of her hometown, Wasilla, in 1996, defeating a three-term incumbent.

UPDATE: Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart said Thursday night that Universal Music Publishing and Sony BMG have sent a cease and desist notice to the McCain-Palin campaign over their use of 'Barracuda.'

"We have asked the Republican campaign publicly not to use our music. We
hope our wishes will be honored," the group said in a statement that said they "condemn" the use of the song at the Republican convention.

From TMZ: http://www.tmz.com/2008/09/04/republicans-lack-heart /

"Specifically, the Heart women are upset that the GOP has used their classic "Barracuda" as a theme song for Sarah Palin. TMZ obtained a statement from Heart's rep, who says "The Republican campaign did not ask for permission to use the song, nor would they have been granted that permission."

yeahyeah

09-05-2008, 01:40 AM

"The Republican campaign did not ask for permission to use the song, nor would they have been granted that permission."

oooooooh gonna sue ya....

Signals

09-05-2008, 06:03 AM

If Ann and Nancy didn't look so much like Rosy O'Donnell and Carrot Top the Republicans might have taken them seriously.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/MEW1123/80546921.jpg

:D

REDVOLUTION

09-05-2008, 08:15 AM

UPDATE: Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart said Thursday night that Universal Music Publishing and Sony BMG have sent a cease and desist notice to the McCain-Palin campaign over their use of 'Barracuda.'

No suprise there... on any of those counts.

If Ann and Nancy didn't look so much like Rosy O'Donnell and Carrot Top the Republicans might have taken them seriously.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/MEW1123/80546921.jpg

:D

:lmao2:

Man... they were hot in the 80's. I really liked them... BOTH!

Salad is good for you!!! hehehe

Heisenberg

09-05-2008, 08:33 AM

Where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6ZnHTWWErM

heavyg

09-05-2008, 09:08 AM

I wonder if Brooks and Dunn are upset over Obama using their song "Only in America"

VietCowboy

09-05-2008, 09:10 AM

I wonder if Brooks and Dunn are upset over Obama using their song "Only in America"

Well, Stevie wonder didn't object to the big O. The republicans knew after the Palin speech, they were given a notice to desist playing it. They still played it the next day. They obviously didn't care.

trickblue

09-05-2008, 09:17 AM

VietCowboy

09-05-2008, 09:27 AM

It's ridiculous... they should let them all play what they want to play no matter the party...

It was the American people (from both parties) that bought and loved these songs and made these prima donnas rich to begin with...

you can do it, but not use it for profit. It was part of something used to help raise money for the RNC.

dbair1967

09-05-2008, 09:33 AM

Breaking news:

After Heart originally protested to their music being used, a compromise was reached at the 11th hour to allow it.

The GOP promised Heart a night they wont forget by setting up "All you can eat Triple Whopper Night" at the St Paul Burger King.

Unfortunately for local patrons, the local BK had to close after the feast as the restaurant was completely wiped out of the popular burgers, all the fries, onion rings and shake mix. The store will open once new supplies arrive.

trickblue

09-05-2008, 10:04 AM

Well, Stevie wonder didn't object to the big O. The republicans knew after the Palin speech, they were given a notice to desist playing it. They still played it the next day. They obviously didn't care.

I doubt he wants to be called "The Big O"...

AbeBeta

09-05-2008, 10:12 AM

I can understand them using a song without asking -- kinda falls in the "it is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission" realm. But after you are told to NOT use a song, it becomes a blantant screw you to the artist to continue to use it. The party is saying "get a lawyer, fight us on this" rather than simply honoring the artist's wishes.

Jarv

09-05-2008, 10:29 AM

REDVOLUTION

09-05-2008, 10:31 AM

VietCowboy

09-05-2008, 10:34 AM

The memo never got to the GOP DJ :laugh2:

Obviously didn't learn from the Van Halen Mistake

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2008/09/05/van-halen-heart-peeved-at-gop-so-what-song-should-mccain-use/

Van Halen, Heart Peeved At GOP, So What Song Should McCain Use? (http://newsroom.mtv.com/2008/09/05/van-halen-heart-peeved-at-gop-so-what-song-should-mccain-use/)

Published by Chris Harris (http://newsroom.mtv.com/author/chrish/) on Friday, September 5, 2008 at 9:47 am.
http://www.mtv.com/shared/promoimages/bands/h/heart/heart_live_americanidol_2008/140x105.jpgLast week, right before Republican presidential candidate John McCain introduced the world to his running mate, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, in Dayton, Ohio, he strutted out to the sounds of Van Halen’s “Right Now.” A few hours later, Van Halen’s publicist told MTV News (http://newsroom.mtv.com/2008/08/29/van-halen-none-too-thrilled-about-john-mccain-using-right-now/) that the POTUS hopeful was never granted permission to use the track, and had permission been sought, it would never have been granted.
Now, Heart are furious with the McCain (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1594154/20080904/story.jhtml) campaign for its use of their 1977 hit “Barracuda” as Palin’s unofficial theme song during the RNC. (When the governor was a high school basketball champ, her teammates nicknamed her “Sarah Barracuda.”) Heart’s reps fired off a statement saying they’d asked the Republicans to stop using the song, and in a phone call to EW.com, Nancy Wilson said she felt “completely f—ed over.”
It seems McCain’s people just can’t find the right tunes. Considering how liberal most recording artists are, it’s likely this will continue to be a problem for the GOP. Perhaps John should just stick with John Rich’s “Raising McCain.”
If you had to pick a song to capture the spirit of McCain’s or Senator Barack Obama’s campaign, which song would you go with? Tell us!

Filed Under: John-McCain (http://newsroom.mtv.com/category/john-mccain/), Republican National Convention (http://newsroom.mtv.com/category/republican-national-convention/), Van-Halen (http://newsroom.mtv.com/category/van-halen/), heart (http://newsroom.mtv.com/category/heart/)

WoodysGirl

09-05-2008, 10:35 AM

The question is...Why don't they want them to use it ? Because they are Republicans ? Would they have objected if it was the Democrats ?
It could be democratic thing, but it could simply be a musical licensing thing.

If the repubs had legitimately licensed the song, then Heart would've been able to negotiate compensation for however the republicans wanted to use it.

Performance licensing, commercial licensing. If they wanted to upload the song to their site, Heart could've got royalties from that.

Her speech was seen by millions of people. Even if it was only played for 30 secs, there's a cost for that and Heart could sue to get paid for how many homes it played in.

Sure it could be politics, but it could also simply be about money...

Jarv

09-05-2008, 10:41 AM

It could be democratic thing, but it could simply be a musical licensing thing.

If the repubs had legitimately licensed the song, then Heart would've been able to negotiate compensation for however the republicans wanted to use it.

Performance licensing, commercial licensing. If they wanted to upload the song to their site, Heart could've got royalties from that.

Her speech was seen by millions of people. Even if it was only played for 30 secs, there's a cost for that and Heart could sue to get paid for how many homes it played in.

Sure it could be politics, but it could also simply be about money...

I don't think it was about money when they make statements like this...

UPDATE: Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart said Thursday night that Universal Music Publishing and Sony BMG have sent a cease and desist notice to the McCain-Palin campaign over their use of 'Barracuda.'

"We have asked the Republican campaign publicly not to use our music. We
hope our wishes will be honored," the group said in a statement that said they "condemn" the use of the song at the Republican convention.

From TMZ: http://www.tmz.com/2008/09/04/republicans-lack-heart /

"Specifically, the Heart women are upset that the GOP has used their classic "Barracuda" as a theme song for Sarah Palin. TMZ obtained a statement from Heart's rep, who says "The Republican campaign did not ask for permission to use the song, nor would they have been granted that permission."

WoodysGirl

09-05-2008, 10:46 AM

I don't think it was about money when they make statements like this...

UPDATE: Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart said Thursday night that Universal Music Publishing and Sony BMG have sent a cease and desist notice to the McCain-Palin campaign over their use of 'Barracuda.'

"We have asked the Republican campaign publicly not to use our music. We
hope our wishes will be honored," the group said in a statement that said they "condemn" the use of the song at the Republican convention.

From TMZ: http://www.tmz.com/2008/09/04/republicans-lack-heart /

"Specifically, the Heart women are upset that the GOP has used their classic "Barracuda" as a theme song for Sarah Palin. TMZ obtained a statement from Heart's rep, who says "The Republican campaign did not ask for permission to use the song, nor would they have been granted that permission."
Yeah I remember reading that, too. But that's an after the fact statement. Not ignoring it, but I think if the republicans had requested permission and offered the right amount of money, they'd have signed before you could blink.

Now that it's been played, interest will peak in their song, so they'll prolly benefit from the publicity.

AbeBeta

09-05-2008, 11:20 AM

The question is...Why don't they want them to use it ? Because they are Republicans ? Would they have objected if it was the Democrats ?

Does it matter? Some artists don't want their music used to "sell" anything. Others only want their music used to sell certain "products."

Either way it is their right. This is no different that someone saying yes or no to a song being used by Doritos.

Signals

09-05-2008, 11:23 AM

Nancy, this is no problem. Next time we'll just use Ted Nugent -Wang Dang Sweet Poontang. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgQTcUy6kpg&feature=related)

In a related link Uncle Ted has a few words for Obama. Please exercise caution if your an emotion person.

:D

REDVOLUTION

09-05-2008, 11:24 AM

It could be democratic thing, but it could simply be a musical licensing thing.

If the repubs had legitimately licensed the song, then Heart would've been able to negotiate compensation for however the republicans wanted to use it.

Performance licensing, commercial licensing. If they wanted to upload the song to their site, Heart could've got royalties from that.

Her speech was seen by millions of people. Even if it was only played for 30 secs, there's a cost for that and Heart could sue to get paid for how many homes it played in.

Sure it could be politics, but it could also simply be about money...

Yeah I remember reading that, too. But that's an after the fact statement. Not ignoring it, but I think if the republicans had requested permission and offered the right amount of money, they'd have signed before you could blink.

Now that it's been played, interest will peak in their song, so they'll prolly benefit from the publicity.

Wow. I am all for talking about all different angles. But it sounds like you might believe that.

It seemed more like a "matter of fact" statement. THEY DO NOT WANT THEIR MUSIC PLAYED FOR A REPUBLICAN.

iceberg

09-05-2008, 11:26 AM

why didn't the republican ask first? assuming politics is just assuming.

you don't use an artists work w/o permission. the repubs were stupid here and whoever the guy is who did this, esp if twice, needs to be fired.

respect the artist and all will be fine.

back to your political arguing and i'll go back to lurking.

ConcordCowboy

09-05-2008, 11:27 AM

OMG Ridge just call McCain John Bush!!!!!!!!!:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

If true talk about a Massive Freudian Slip.

:lmao2:

AbeBeta

09-05-2008, 11:27 AM

respect the artist and all will be fine.

it really is just that simple....

ConcordCowboy

09-05-2008, 11:40 AM

Those Republicans sure are Silly, Silly Fools!

:laugh2:

Good for Heart!

dbair1967

09-05-2008, 11:42 AM

OMG Ridge just call McCain John Bush!!!!!!!!!:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

"57 states and I've been to everyone of them"

"Give the (asthma inflicted) child a breathalyzer"

"Next president of the USA- Joe Biden"

Guess who said the above?

ConcordCowboy

09-05-2008, 11:59 AM

"57 states and I've been to everyone of them"

"Give the (asthma inflicted) child a breathalyzer"

"Next president of the USA- Joe Biden"

Guess who said the above?

When you made EVERY effort last night to say you weren't Bush...trying desperately ( but futilely ) to distance yourself from him and basically throwing him under the bus...and one of the two guys that McCain REALLY wanted as VP ( Ridge and Lieberman) calls you John Bush on National TV...

Well that's just good TV viewing there.

:laugh2:

sacase

09-05-2008, 02:28 PM

iceberg

09-05-2008, 03:51 PM

If the RNC has an ASCAP license then it doesn't matter what Heart wants.

http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300

Edit: It didn't show the link right but type in Barracuda and you will see that the song is in the Database.

did some research and this is the truth. not even sure they need to be w/ascap. they were not making any money off the convention and it was not a commercial use, so while heart can express displeasure at their music being used, they can't do a thing about it otherwise.

aka reagan using born in the usa and springstein getting upset. the cool thing to do is ask the artist but it's not required or necessary. heart can get upset and they have but that's about it.

VietCowboy

09-05-2008, 03:53 PM

did some research and this is the truth. not even sure they need to be w/ascap. they were not making any money off the convention and it was not a commercial use, so while heart can express displeasure at their music being used, they can't do a thing about it otherwise.

aka reagan using born in the usa and springstein getting upset. the cool thing to do is ask the artist but it's not required or necessary. heart can get upset and they have but that's about it.

hm, so convention is not part of a fundraiser?

trickblue

09-05-2008, 03:56 PM

hm, so convention is not part of a fundraiser?

I don't think they are categorized in that manner...

iceberg

09-05-2008, 04:00 PM

hm, so convention is not part of a fundraiser?

no. that's making a reach on the connection. the most they would have to do is pay for the "performance" of the song, but in a crowd like that you can't measure the TV audiences as individual performances.

i-net radio is trying to do that and biden backs that plan so i don't want biden near laws for that alone.

example. for my radio station, when i play signed music i pay bmi/soundexchange their fee and they dole it out. i hate soundexchange, love bmi but 2 different issues.

what biden and the RIAA/soundexchange wants to do is charge me for *every listener* when i play a song. on FM they just pay for playing the song regardless of how many are listening.

i-net stations want very much to be fair to the artist but the RIAA would just as soon they all went away and have tried several times to make it financially impossible to do it. biden backs the RIAA on this so no, i don't like it.

as long as it's not a commercial use nothing can be done. heart can get upset and the RNA could be nice and stop it but if they don't, nothing heart can do.

no one worry though. i'm only on this topic cause it's near and dear to my heart. i'm still out of the political attack and defense going on.

AbeBeta

09-05-2008, 05:00 PM

aka reagan using born in the usa and springstein getting upset. the cool thing to do is ask the artist but it's not required or necessary. heart can get upset and they have but that's about it.

Also, it is a good idea to actually listen to the lyrics of the song rather than simply focusing on the chorus. Born in the USA is rather critical of the U.S. in points.

Similarly Barracuda might be interpreted as having a line or two that makes reference to oral sex -- which may been seen as some as not appropriate for an event like a convention.

REDVOLUTION

09-05-2008, 05:05 PM

Similarly Barracuda might be interpreted as having a line or two that makes reference to oral sex -- which may been seen as some as not appropriate for an event like a convention.

Well Saracuda is no virgin. :D

trickblue

09-05-2008, 05:09 PM

Also, it is a good idea to actually listen to the lyrics of the song rather than simply focusing on the chorus. Born in the USA is rather critical of the U.S. in points.

Similarly Barracuda might be interpreted as having a line or two that makes reference to oral sex -- which may been seen as some as not appropriate for an event like a convention.

People pretty much only know the chorus to most songs...