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Cajuncowboy
09-07-2008, 02:20 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/07/food.foodanddrink

UN says eat less meat to curb global warming
· Climate expert urges radical shift in diet
· Industry unfairly targeted - farmers

* Juliette Jowit, environment ed

People should have one meat-free day a week if they want to make a personal and effective sacrifice that would help tackle climate change, the world's leading authority on global warming has told The Observer

Dr Rajendra Pachauri, chair of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which last year earned a joint share of the Nobel Peace Prize, said that people should then go on to reduce their meat consumption even further.

His comments are the most controversial advice yet provided by the panel on how individuals can help tackle global warning.

Pachauri, who was re-elected the panel's chairman for a second six-year term last week, said diet change was important because of the huge greenhouse gas emissions and other environmental problems - including habitat destruction - associated with rearing cattle and other animals. It was relatively easy to change eating habits compared to changing means of transport, he said.

The UN's Food and Agriculture Organisation has estimated that meat production accounts for nearly a fifth of global greenhouse gas emissions. These are generated during the production of animal feeds, for example, while ruminants, particularly cows, emit methane, which is 23 times more effective as a global warming agent than carbon dioxide. The agency has also warned that meat consumption is set to double by the middle of the century.

'In terms of immediacy of action and the feasibility of bringing about reductions in a short period of time, it clearly is the most attractive opportunity,' said Pachauri. 'Give up meat for one day [a week] initially, and decrease it from there,' said the Indian economist, who is a vegetarian.

However, he also stressed other changes in lifestyle would help to combat climate change. 'That's what I want to emphasise: we really have to bring about reductions in every sector of the economy.'

Pachauri can expect some vociferous responses from the food industry to his advice, though last night he was given unexpected support by Masterchef presenter and restaurateur John Torode, who is about to publish a new book, John Torode's Beef. 'I have a little bit and enjoy it,' said Torode. 'Too much for any person becomes gluttony. But there's a bigger issue here: where [the meat] comes from. If we all bought British and stopped buying imported food we'd save a huge amount of carbon emissions.'

Tomorrow, Pachauri will speak at an event hosted by animal welfare group Compassion in World Farming, which has calculated that if the average UK household halved meat consumption that would cut emissions more than if car use was cut in half.

The group has called for governments to lead campaigns to reduce meat consumption by 60 per cent by 2020. Campaigners have also pointed out the health benefits of eating less meat. The average person in the UK eats 50g of protein from meat a day, equivalent to a chicken breast and a lamb chop - a relatively low level for rich nations but 25-50 per cent more than World Heath Organisation guidelines.

Professor Robert Watson, the chief scientific adviser for the Department for Environment Food and Rural Affairs, who will also speak at tomorrow's event in London, said government could help educate people about the benefits of eating less meat, but it should not 'regulate'. 'Eating less meat would help, there's no question about that, but there are other things,' Watson said.

However, Chris Lamb, head of marketing for pig industry group BPEX, said the meat industry had been unfairly targeted and was working hard to find out which activities had the biggest environmental impact and reduce those. Some ideas were contradictory, he said - for example, one solution to emissions from livestock was to keep them indoors, but this would damage animal welfare. 'Climate change is a very young science and our view is there are a lot of simplistic solutions being proposed,' he said.

Last year a major report into the environmental impact of meat eating by the Food Climate Research Network at Surrey University claimed livestock generated 8 per cent of UK emissions - but eating some meat was good for the planet because some habitats benefited from grazing. It also said vegetarian diets that included lots of milk, butter and cheese would probably not noticeably reduce emissions because dairy cows are a major source of methane, a potent greenhouse gas released through flatulence.

iceberg
09-07-2008, 02:36 PM
what if it's frozen - does it still count at heating up the planet?

and all the smokers out there. lighting their lighters heats up the planet.

lord where will this end?

Cajuncowboy
09-07-2008, 02:45 PM
what if it's frozen - does it still count at heating up the planet?

and all the smokers out there. lighting their lighters heats up the planet.

lord where will this end?

It's gonna end when we no longer eat anything but grass, drink only water (maybe) and live under a rock. That's where it will end.

Brandon
09-07-2008, 02:51 PM
It'll end when people stop using huge gas guzzling SUVs, littering and using coal etc.

Until then, we will face the consequences of globa warming, and eventual beautiful places like Tokyo, California, Florida and Australia will be under water.

Cajuncowboy
09-07-2008, 05:23 PM
It'll end when people stop using huge gas guzzling SUVs, littering and using coal etc.

Until then, we will face the consequences of globa warming, and eventual beautiful places like Tokyo, California, Florida and Australia will be under water.

:rolleyes:

Yeagermeister
09-07-2008, 06:51 PM
I'm a PETA supporter


People Eating Tasty Animals :D

And I love my SUV

ChldsPlay
09-07-2008, 07:52 PM
It's gonna end when we no longer eat anything but grass, drink only water (maybe) and live under a rock. That's where it will end.

Hey, we can't eat grass, it's green. What's wrong with you man. Water only!

Yeagermeister
09-07-2008, 07:53 PM
Hey, we can't eat grass, it's green. What's wrong with you man. Water only!

If we drink all the water the earth will dry up

Cajuncowboy
09-07-2008, 08:06 PM
Hey, we can't eat grass, it's green. What's wrong with you man. Water only!

I know. Dopey me. :o:

Cajuncowboy
09-07-2008, 08:06 PM
If we drink all the water the earth will dry up

But that's ok because it's gonna flood from the ice caps melting so we can make up for it.

Yeagermeister
09-07-2008, 08:07 PM
But that's ok because it's gonna flood from the ice caps melting so we can make up for it.

Salt water:laugh2:

Cajuncowboy
09-07-2008, 08:16 PM
Salt water:laugh2:

Picky! You want water? Don't be a wimp! :D

Signals
09-07-2008, 09:04 PM
I'm a PETA supporter


People Eating Tasty Animals :D

And I love my SUVI thought you were the president of BMWTA

Bologna Made With Tofu Association.

:D

Viper
09-07-2008, 09:44 PM
But that's ok because it's gonna flood from the ice caps melting so we can make up for it.

What if you like ice in your water?

Yeagermeister
09-07-2008, 09:45 PM
I thought you were the president of BMWTA

Bologna Made With Tofu Association.

:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Yeagermeister/ban-button.gif

Cajuncowboy
09-07-2008, 09:49 PM
What if you like ice in your water?

Then you are up the creek without a paddle. Actually you would be up the creek without a creek since we will also have no water.

See, global warming will cause the ice caps to melt and flood everything but then global warming will cause the water to dry up so we get a draw on the whole deal, right up until the time global warming causes the next ice age which will be the first time in history that warming will cause freezing.

But hey, they got scientists that say it's so. :laugh2:

Viper
09-07-2008, 10:01 PM
Then you are up the creek without a paddle. Actually you would be up the creek without a creek since we will also have no water.

See, global warming will cause the ice caps to melt and flood everything but then global warming will cause the water to dry up so we get a draw on the whole deal, right up until the time global warming causes the next ice age which will be the first time in history that warming will cause freezing.

But hey, they got scientists that say it's so. :laugh2:

I really don't see this as a problem, we will just invade another planet and steal thier water. We've got Bush.

Yeagermeister
09-07-2008, 10:04 PM
I really don't see this as a problem, we will just invade another planet and steal thier water. We've got Bush.

Why do you think we are looking for water on Mars? :laugh2:

Viper
09-07-2008, 10:07 PM
Why do you think we are looking for water on Mars? :laugh2:

See how smart that Bush is, the marines will be landing soon.:D

Viper
09-07-2008, 10:10 PM
I think I'm gonna put on my Hoff cd, to calm down:o:

Cajuncowboy
09-07-2008, 10:11 PM
See how smart that Bush is, the marines will be landing soon.:D

Yeah Viper but the pro Martian activists will complain we are going to harm the pristine Martian landscape.

Look, just face it. We are all doomed. So eat tofu!

Viper
09-07-2008, 10:16 PM
Yeah Viper but the pro Martian activists will complain we are going to harm the pristine Martian landscape.

Look, just face it. We are all doomed. So eat tofu!

I have to be honest, I've never tried tofu...I'm a vicious carnivore.

Cajuncowboy
09-07-2008, 10:20 PM
I have to be honest, I've never tried tofu...I'm a vicious carnivore.

My wife said we should try it once because it would be healthier for us so she got this tofu burger stuff. I was on my way home from work and she said she was making it for us that night. When I got home she said, we are going out to OUTBACK for supper. She said she tasted it and thought it was the worst stuff in the world and tossed it in the trash.

Yeagermeister
09-07-2008, 10:21 PM
I have to be honest, I've never tried tofu...I'm a vicious carnivore.

Me either and never will

Viper
09-07-2008, 10:24 PM
My wife said we should try it once because it would be healthier for us so she got this tofu burger stuff. I was on my way home from work and she said she was making it for us that night. When I got home she said, we are going out to OUTBACK for supper. She said she tasted it and thought it was the worst stuff in the world and tossed it in the trash.

You my friend, have an intelligent wife.

Hostile
09-07-2008, 10:24 PM
Okay, I'll admit, I don't get it. When I first heard about global warming one of the things that was studied was how much methane gas is in cow farts.

Now they don't want us to eat these farting atmosphere heaters?

But they're so tasty.

iceberg
09-07-2008, 10:27 PM
What if you like ice in your water?

HEY!!!!

Viper
09-07-2008, 10:27 PM
Okay, I'll admit, I don't get it. When I first heard about global warming one of the things that was studied was how much methane gas is in cow farts.

Now they don't want us to eat these farting atmosphere heaters?

But they're so tasty.

shhhhhhh.....I'm listenin to a Hoff cd.

Cajuncowboy
09-07-2008, 10:31 PM
You my friend, have an intelligent wife.

Well she DID marry me. :D

Cajuncowboy
09-07-2008, 10:33 PM
Okay, I'll admit, I don't get it. When I first heard about global warming one of the things that was studied was how much methane gas is in cow farts.

Now they don't want us to eat these farting atmosphere heaters?

But they're so tasty.

The plan is for us to kill them all (stop the methane gas environmentalists), but not really kill them (PETA).

Makes perfect sense. NOT.

Viper
09-07-2008, 10:35 PM
Well she DID marry me. :D

No one is perfect, someone had to make a sacrifice...her mansion in heaven will be a large one.

Viper
09-07-2008, 10:37 PM
HEY!!!!

I'm just sayin...

not that there is anything wrong with it:D

Cajuncowboy
09-07-2008, 10:40 PM
No one is perfect, someone had to make a sacrifice...her mansion in heaven will be a large one.

Ouch!

Honestly, I did out kick my coverage when it comes to getting married. I did way better than i should have.

Viper
09-07-2008, 10:42 PM
Ouch!

Honestly, I did out kick my coverage when it comes to getting married. I did way better than i should have.

Yeah, my wife will be your wives nieghbor.