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jrumann59
09-07-2008, 06:53 PM
I just got this in a email I subscribe to from newsmax haven't gotten stuff from them before so I don't know their leanings but I find these 2 things interesting.

#1
1. Iranians Hoping for ‘Muslim’ Obama Victory
Iran’s leadership has expressed “great pleasure” at the prospect of a Barack Obama victory in November, according to Menashe Amir, the Iranian-born head of Radio Israel’s Persian language service. But Iranian President Ahmadinejad has said he doubts that the American establishment “will allow” Obama to win. “One of the Iranian religious leaders said if Obama will enter the White House, then Islam will conquer the heart of the American nation,” Amir told Isracast.com. The Iranian leadership likes Obama “mainly because he is a Muslim,” according to Amir. His first name, Barack, comes from “al-baraq,” which is the name of the horse that Muslims believe Muhammad rode on his way to paradise. His middle name Hussein is also a Muslim name, and he was “born in a Muslim family,” said Amir. In fact, Obama is a Christian. His deceased father was a Muslim, and though Obama attended a Muslim school in Indonesia, he never pursued the Muslim faith of his early childhood. While some commentators have suggested that this qualifies him as an apostate — a “crime” punishable by death according to Islamic sharia law — Menashe Amir disagreed. “If he wins the election, Muslims will be very proud of such a conquest, such a win. He didn’t convert [to Christianity] after he was 18. It happened much, much before,” so the sharia law judgment does not apply.





And #2



Columnist: McCain Win Will Trigger ‘Race War’
A Philadelphia columnist has gone over the top and warned that if John McCain defeats Barack Obama in November, America will face a “race and class war.”
Fatimah Ali of the Philadelphia Daily News, declaring that a McCain victory would bring “four more years of George Bush,” writes: “Rich Republicans just don’t understand that millions are suffering . . . “Over the last eight years, we've lost 3.2 million jobs and started a war that's cost trillions. The lies and deceit that got us into Iraq in the first place are just the tip of the iceberg and have ruined America's reputation across the globe. “Meanwhile, our economy continues to crumble, while crime, homelessness, and poverty continue to soar . . . Suffering is widespread as the gap between rich and poor widens. "The Bush administration doesn't get it and neither does McCain. He is so out of touch that he hasn't a clue how many homes he owns, while the working class struggles to hold on to one.”
Then Ali warns, “If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness — and hopelessness!” But if Obama wins the presidency, Ali said, “we may just see a revolution that can turn the tide and improve this nation for everyone, not just a select few.”



Like I said I received this in an e-mail from newsmax.com.


Though this is the first e-mail I have received from them these 2 things do drip of fear mongering from both sides until I read more fromt hem I will not make a conclusive statement about their agenda.

Brandon
09-07-2008, 07:16 PM
Good Lord, a race war? Barack isn't even black, hes Middle Eastern.

Cajuncowboy
09-07-2008, 07:21 PM
Wow! The endorsements are rolling in. First Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright, now the kook from Iran. Nice.

dacarmelking210
09-07-2008, 07:35 PM
Good Lord, a race war? Barack isn't even black, hes Middle Eastern.

How the hell is Obama Middle Eastern?

Danny White
09-07-2008, 08:55 PM
jrumann... Newsmax is a conservative web publication.

jrumann59
09-07-2008, 09:01 PM
jrumann... Newsmax is a conservative web publication.

Thanks, for the info now I will go bookmark it next to MSNBC ;)

vta
09-07-2008, 09:04 PM
How the hell is Obama Middle Eastern?

:laugh2:

Well, his father is Kenyan...

jrumann59
09-07-2008, 09:12 PM
How the hell is Obama Middle Eastern?

You don't have to be middle eastern to be muslim, Malcom X, Louis Farrakahn to name a few.

dacarmelking210
09-07-2008, 11:24 PM
:laugh2:

Well, his father is Kenyan...

I'm not sure if you're being facetious or not, but Kenya is in Sub-Saharan Africa and is not considered part of the Middle East.

dacarmelking210
09-07-2008, 11:32 PM
You don't have to be middle eastern to be muslim, Malcom X, Louis Farrakahn to name a few.

Being Middle Eastern does not mean you're Muslim. There are many Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians, etc. in the Middle East, as well.

To add to your point, most Muslims in the World aren't even from the Middle East. Indonesia is the largest Muslim country (Indonesians are Mongoloids..i.e. East Asians), India has the largest Muslim population in the world (Indians are Indo-Europeans/Dravidians), and a lot, if not most, of Sub-Saharan Africa is Muslim, as well. I just want to reiterate this to some people on this board because I have seen a lot of people falsely equate Middle Eastern to being Muslim; it's not always true.

Obama's father was a Kenyan muslim. Kenya has nothing to do with the Middle East, and Obama's mother was white, so Barack Obama is in no way "Middle Eastern."

ZB9
09-08-2008, 05:39 AM
#1
1. Iranians Hoping for ‘Muslim’ Obama Victory
Iran’s leadership has expressed “great pleasure” at the prospect of a Barack Obama victory in November, according to Menashe Amir, the Iranian-born head of Radio Israel’s Persian language service. But Iranian President Ahmadinejad has said he doubts that the American establishment “will allow” Obama to win. “One of the Iranian religious leaders said if Obama will enter the White House, then Islam will conquer the heart of the American nation,” Amir told Isracast.com. The Iranian leadership likes Obama “mainly because he is a Muslim,” according to Amir. His first name, Barack, comes from “al-baraq,” which is the name of the horse that Muslims believe Muhammad rode on his way to paradise. His middle name Hussein is also a Muslim name, and he was “born in a Muslim family,” said Amir. In fact, Obama is a Christian. His deceased father was a Muslim, and though Obama attended a Muslim school in Indonesia, he never pursued the Muslim faith of his early childhood. While some commentators have suggested that this qualifies him as an apostate — a “crime” punishable by death according to Islamic sharia law — Menashe Amir disagreed. “If he wins the election, Muslims will be very proud of such a conquest, such a win. He didn’t convert [to Christianity] after he was 18. It happened much, much before,” so the sharia law judgment does not apply.







another coveted Obama endorsement

NinePointOh
09-08-2008, 06:40 AM
:laugh2:

Well, his father is Kenyan...

http://www.themosesfund.org/imgs/map2.jpg

vta
09-08-2008, 08:34 AM
I'm not sure if you're being facetious or not, but Kenya is in Sub-Saharan Africa and is not considered part of the Middle East.

http://www.themosesfund.org/imgs/map2.jpg

I wasn't sure, to be honest. Oddly enough, Sudan and Ethipoia are considered Mid East, with Kenya sharing a border with both.

WoodysGirl
09-08-2008, 08:45 AM
African American

African by ethnicity, American by citizenship

JBond
09-08-2008, 09:07 AM
African American

Half Caucasian by ethnicity, American by citizenship

Fixed that for you.
Everyone seems to forget that part.

WoodysGirl
09-08-2008, 09:16 AM
Fixed that for you.
Everyone seems to forget that part.I actually forgot to include it, so yes, you're correct. However it would still be:

African and Caucasian by ethnicity, American by citizenship.

Which means he's still not middle eastern, which is what I was addressing originially. :)

JBond
09-08-2008, 09:19 AM
I actually forgot to include it, so yes, you're correct. However it would still be:

African and Caucasian by ethnicity, American by citizenship.

Which means he's still not middle eastern, which is what I was addressing originially. :)

I'm with you on your point.:)

NinePointOh
09-08-2008, 10:03 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5d/GreaterMiddleEast.gif/800px-GreaterMiddleEast.gif

jrumann59
09-08-2008, 06:14 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5d/GreaterMiddleEast.gif/800px-GreaterMiddleEast.gif

All looks green to me.:D