If Parcells leaves, I want an offensive minded coach

[mr.jameswoods]

Everyone keeps saying how defense is so much harder to coach. I find that hard to believe. It seems like there are a ton of defensive coordinators and head coaches who are consdered defensive gururs. If i want a defensive minded coach, I could just pick up Dave Wannstedt. It seems like every team has a quality defensive coordinator. Look no further than Buffalo and Arizona for defensive coordinators who have done a great job. For example, I think it will be easier to fix our pass rush than our running game next season.

I have learned with offense that it's not just about having talent. I think even if we draft Mike Williams and Cadillac Williams, I doubt our offense will be instaneously improved. On the flipside, the addition of Antrelle Rolle and Orien Harris might make our defensive an instant top 10' The learning curve for defensive players is a lot shorter in the NFL than offensive players. On offense, it's about coaching the timing into players. And offensive gurus know how to pick the right offensive players for their scheme. It seems like it is more of an art than defense.

I honestly believe Chan Gailey got a bad rap. He had a great system which was fun to watch. The problem is he inherited players who didn't fit his offensive philosophy in the least bit. Not only did he severely lack talent and depth at receiver which he needed for his 5 receiver sets, Aikman was never comfortable with his scheme to begin with. Even Emmitt Smith wasn't the right type of RB for his system.

I'm happy with Parcells and his staff in general but should he leave, I think this is a great opportunity to pick up an offensive minded coach since our offense will foreseeably be pretty young. Unlike the attempt with Gailey, our new offensive minded coach won't have to deal with aging players that don't fit his system for the most part. Unlike defense, I don't think we can just pick up great talent at offense and have it work. If Parcells bolts, I say we go for young offensive minded coach

[iceberg]

chan tried to make players fit his scheme. bill tries to get the most out of his players. so far both seem to be fading into some obscurity. one from the lack of ever being and the other for the curse of being on top.

wild, huh?

in the end, parcells is doing a very poor job of keeping this together. he's so busy trying to make someone stand up and lead he's not going anywhere. he sounds lost in press conferences, a coherant sentence is something the reporters ask, and week in and week out i hear him say how bad the coaching is.

so what's he going to do about it?

still waiting.

[Signals]

If Parcells leaves?!?!?!

What makes you think that just because someone has a bad hair day that its time to leave?

Parcells will NOT leave until his contract is up. Bank on it.

[mr.jameswoods]

chan tried to make players fit his scheme. bill tries to get the most out of his players. so far both seem to be fading into some obscurity. one from the lack of ever being and the other for the curse of being on top.

wild, huh?

in the end, parcells is doing a very poor job of keeping this together. he's so busy trying to make someone stand up and lead he's not going anywhere. he sounds lost in press conferences, a coherant sentence is something the reporters ask, and week in and week out i hear him say how bad the coaching is.

so what's he going to do about it?

still waiting.

Great take Jerry

The funny thing is I think Parcells would agree with you. I get the sense, he knows his approach was wrong with the players and he trusted players currently on the roster instead of seeking their replacements in the offseason.

I don't think Parcells has a system. Parcells favors certain players versus favoring a particular system but that can be just as bad. What Parcells needs to do is get the most talented people he can whether they are Parcell's guys or not and the construct a system that favors their stengths.

Easier said than done of course.

[iceberg]

parcells needs to quit looking for someone to step up and HE needs to step up.

right now, like it or not, he's our best qualified leader.

he's just not doing it because he's busy coaching.

[mr.jameswoods]

If Parcells leaves?!?!?!

What makes you think that just because someone has a bad hair day that its time to leave?

What makes me think he will leave....oh I don't know...maybe considering the fact he abruptly left the Patriots and the Jets after they showed signs of decline

[mr.jameswoods]

parcells needs to quit looking for someone to step up and HE needs to step up.

right now, like it or not, he's our best qualified leader.

he's just not doing it because he's busy coaching.

I think leadership is an overrated quality. What's he going to do, give Vince Lombardi speeches? I respect and understand what you are saying but I feel Parcells' frustration. He just doesn't have the talent and he knows it. His players are not that bright and can't figure out situations on the field. And as much crap as we give Vinny and Keyshawn, they have been the best players on the team. I don't think there is anything he can really do at this point but to complete the season and go shopping in the offseason.

[iceberg]

I think leadership is an overrated quality. What's he going to do, give Vince Lombardi speeches? I respect and understand what you are saying but I feel Parcells' frustration. He just doesn't have the talent and he knows it. His players are not that bright and can't figure out situations on the field. And as much crap as we give Vinny and Keyshawn, they have been the best players on the team.

leadership is everything.

it's the direction everyone flocks to. it's the path so many fight for.

no, it's not a speech. it's your actions. it's your process. in a class b movie, i heard it put as "leadership isn't about ability, it's about responsibility".

to me that rings very true.

but you have to be honest about where you're going or people quit following. one by one you lose your "audience". if you're to ask people to believe in you you have to believe in "something".

and then you have to make that something come to life.

now more follow.

bill's lost. i'm not sure he knows what to do and right now, i don't think his "moves" are going to give good results.

you pull people up. you don't shame them on.

[TheHustler]

BP ain't going anywhere fellas.

[mr.jameswoods]

leadership is everything.

it's the direction everyone flocks to. it's the path so many fight for.

no, it's not a speech. it's your actions. it's your process. in a class b movie, i heard it put as "leadership isn't about ability, it's about responsibility".

to me that rings very true.

but you have to be honest about where you're going or people quit following. one by one you lose your "audience". if you're to ask people to believe in you you have to believe in "something".

and then you have to make that something come to life.

now more follow.

bill's lost. i'm not sure he knows what to do and right now, i don't think his "moves" are going to give good results.

you pull people up. you don't shame them on.

He has been very honest and forthcoming. The problem is the players lack the talent. I think the players are trying hard but they don't have the intelligence and the talent to play at a high level in the NFL.

I do blame Parcells in a way because it's his responsibility to recognize talent and start them. The roster he has now is his doing. He chose to enter the season with the roster he has. Parcells recognized he screwed up by trusting and relying on players that he shouldn't have at key spots. I don't think there is anything he can do or say to inspire his players.

[iceberg]

BP ain't going anywhere fellas.

so.

that doesn't mean i agree with his current approach.

for that matter, we're not going anywhere either.

[iceberg]

He has been very honest and forthcoming. The problem is the players lack the talent. I think the players are trying hard but they don't have the intelligence and the talent to play at a high level in the NFL.

I do blame Parcells in a way because it's his responsibility to recognize talent and start them. The roster he has now is his doing. He chose to enter the season with the roster he has. Parcells recognized he screwed up but I don't think there is anything he can do or say to inspire his players.

yea, he has. of that i won't disagree. but he's not done anything about it. we're 1 month into "yea the coaching sucks" and it still does.

so what's he waiting for?

he could tell his players where we are, what's ahead, and what to expect.

he can quit looking for a trail of smoke to blow up their arse. that's what a lot are not buying right now.

[mr.jameswoods]

so.

that doesn't mean i agree with his current approach.

for that matter, we're not going anywhere either.


Something else to think about is the idea the media is blowing this up. I heard the entire press conference and it wasn't that bad. It was typical Parcells and he ripped on the players but he also ripped on himself. On several occassions, he took responsibility. It was sad because a couple of the writers in the room saw the angle and jumped at like a hungry shark. They kept pestering Parcells about his use of the word "stupid" etc. Of course, the media and ESPN only replays the parts where he said the players are stupid. The media is on this kick of making Parcells the bad guy all of sudden because it makes for interesting talk.

However, I bet Parcells spoke with the players and apologized. I bet it's a lot different in the locker room than what the media is projecting to the fans.

[iceberg]

the media blows everything up.

that doesn't excuse parcells for having a ****ty plan this year.

[mr.jameswoods]

yea, he has. of that i won't disagree. but he's not done anything about it. we're 1 month into "yea the coaching sucks" and it still does.

so what's he waiting for?

he could tell his players where we are, what's ahead, and what to expect.

he can quit looking for a trail of smoke to blow up their arse. that's what a lot are not buying right now.

So what is he supposed to tell his players that they suck and are probably going to miss the playoffs 8 games into the season? That's the reality. Do you think that's what they want to hear? I know it may be bullshyte but you have to blow smoke up their arse and offer some inspiration otherwise the season is done.

[iceberg]

So what is he supposed to tell his players that they suck and are probably going to miss the playoffs 8 games into the season? That's the reality. Do you think that's what they want to hear? I know it may be bullshyte but you have to blow smoke up their arse and offer some inspiration otherwise the season is done.

he needs to tell his players we've got a long way to go to be a contender. he needs to realize he can make no move to save THIS year and start going for tomorrow.

eagles/ravens - ok, i can buy not putting hensen in there, but i can't buy the "STOP TALKING ABOUT IT!" mantra he runs to.

we're fans. it's what we do.

his overall frustration level speaks of more problems than he can handle.

period.

we've all been there. he just needs to come back to reality and quit trying to do better than next year. at one time we thought he was here for the long haul, but so far this year has been nothing more than about this year.

this year is over. time to regroup and be honest where we are.

and we've got a confused coach who can't put together a coherant sentence in a press conference.

will he fix it?

hope so. but it doesn't change what it is.

[mr.jameswoods]

he needs to tell his players we've got a long way to go to be a contender. he needs to realize he can make no move to save THIS year and start going for tomorrow.

eagles/ravens - ok, i can buy not putting hensen in there, but i can't buy the "STOP TALKING ABOUT IT!" mantra he runs to.

we're fans. it's what we do.

his overall frustration level speaks of more problems than he can handle.

period.

we've all been there. he just needs to come back to reality and quit trying to do better than next year. at one time we thought he was here for the long haul, but so far this year has been nothing more than about this year.

this year is over. time to regroup and be honest where we are.

and we've got a confused coach who can't put together a coherant sentence in a press conference.

will he fix it?

hope so. but it doesn't change what it is.


I don't believe you can tell your players the season is over even if that may be the reality. It's human nature to quit if there is no hope. The truth is the players want hope. They want to believe they can win. if you tell the players the season is over and rebuilding is a long process then they will quit and the situation will get worse because they have nothing to play for this season. And when players aren't focused, drama and other distractions kick in. Team chemistry erodes etc. It's still early 3-5 to quit even the future looks grim.


He doesn't need to tell his players that the season is done but he needs to tell himself that and Jerry Jones. Both Jerry and Bill need to recognize and more importantly accept the rebuilding process willl take time instead of seeking quick fixes which is what they have done. Draft properly and allow the players to develop.

[iceberg]

I don't believe you can tell your players the season is over even if that may be the reality. It's human nature to quit if there is no hope. The truth is the players want hope. They want to believe they can win. if you tell the players the season is over and rebuilding is a long process then they will quit and the situation will get worse because they have nothing to play for this season. And when players aren't focused, drama and other distractions kick in. Team chemistry erodes etc. It's still early 3-5 to quit even the future looks grim.


He doesn't need to tell his players that the season is done but he needs to tell himself that and Jerry Jones. Both Jerry and Bill need to recognize and more importantly accept the rebuilding process willl take time instead of seeking quick fixes which is what they have done. Draft properly and allow the players to develop.

i can (and maybe its me, i'm ok with that) accept i'm in a bad situation and we've got work to do to fix it.

i'll follow that before i follow a smoke screen.

we're a smoke screen right now. we're not playing for today or building for tomorrow, hence, the confusion.

[SuspectCorner]

BP ain't going anywhere fellas.

i could feel that confident about any coach but parcells.

[Hollywood Henderson]

The offense has done MUCH better this year with Vinny as QB, but losing J.Jones, Campbell, Glenn & now Morgan has really hurt its ability to put more TD's on the board...

Still even with more TD's we would still SUCK on D because we have no NFL quality coaching there...

FIRE zimmy WUSS now and the TEAM gets much better that very second!

[Sarge]

parcells needs to quit looking for someone to step up and HE needs to step up.

I agree. I think the team is playing about where they should be given the personnel on the field, perhaps somewhat underachieving, but not substantially so.

They overachieved, CLEARLY, last year.

It is what it is.

The improvements won't happen this year really, until Glenn gets back out there and Julius gets his chance.

We simply do NOT have the weapons/personnel to be much better.

Parcells seriously misjudged NUMEROUS players and their abilites. That list is WAY too long to get into.

The REAL improvement will truly start once Parcells realizes several things.

He needs to let go of this ideal that older is better. That "Parcells guys" are better. He needs to give the younger players a chance. He needs to realize that this team is far inferior, talent-wise, than he previously thought. He needs to be ready for FA this year as opposed to "surprised at how quickly FA's were signed."

Jerry is certainly not blameless either. For once - get the draft right. Get the best player available - realizing you ARE that bad that you should do just that.

It HAS to happen or Parcells may as well leave right now.

For this team to get it turned around, Parcells needs to take a very long look in the mirror.

We are NOT a veteran QB and a veteran RB away from the playoffs.

In fact - we are now further behind the 8-ball BECAUSE of that mentality.

I am not ashamed to say that I think Bill Parcells has done a terrible job in numerous areas, especially in year 2, in getting this team back to the top - long term.

I don't care that his name is Bill Parcells. I respect the man. I do NOT respect the job he has done thus far and that goes from lack of FA productivity, severe misjudgement in player personnel right on down to some terrible playcalling.

I venture to say that if you change the coaches name from Bill Parcells to John Doe, there would be MANY more feeling the same way.

For me, it's about the actual JOB that has been done, not the person or his past.

[jem88]

Chan Gailey was an absolutely awful coach. I'll never forgive him for the way he tried to marginalize Michael Irvin. What's more, if a guy can't get Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin or Emmitt Smith to fit into his scheme, then maybe the scheme needs changing. All three of those guys were still very capable of performing at the highest level when Gailey arrived in 1998. Furthermore, has there ever been a coach with less charisma than Gailey? Campo may have looked like some kind of possessed evil leprechaun patrolling the sideline, but at least he came across as having some kind of personality. I've never been more unhappy with the Cowboys than I was during that 8-8 season (Gailey's last, thank god!) However, this year is running a close second...

[jobberone]

But how can you expect him to leave after his second year with a team that was 5-11 three years in a row. We played and had the record and players of a less than mediocre team BP (before Parcells).

We are better than mediocre now despite our record IMO.

Give the guy a chance. This team is playing as well as you can expect with it's number two and three WR gone and no running game. It wasn't "chicken little" thinking to see a suspect DL, injured safety, no starting caliper RCB, and a sophomore LCB playing poor defense.

We're playing like what we are. What's good is Parcells can coach and draft. And we are improving despite the record.

I feel good about the overall direction of the team.

That's not saying Parcells and company are doing everything right either.

Parcells has a job if I'm the owner.

Let's see if he stays put another couple of years.