View Full Version : Question for McCain supporters, if I may
VietCowboy
09-13-2008, 06:35 PM
On a scale of 0 to 100, and feel free to compare it previous Presidential elections, how successful do you think the McCain campaign is currently doing (obviously the overall success would depend on what happens in November).
Just curious.
Thanks.
Hostile
09-13-2008, 06:39 PM
I don't really know how to respond to this question. He did a great job in my state as my Senator. I am confident he can do a great job as our President. I haven't paid any attention really to his campaign.
bbgun
09-13-2008, 06:46 PM
A typical scale is 1 to 10, so I'll say 8.5. He's in it when there's no earthly reason why he should be, considering Bush's anemic approval ratings and the down in the mouth status of the GOP .
ThaBigP
09-13-2008, 06:54 PM
Yeah, it's a complicated question, so let me frame my answer properly. First, you asked about the "campaign", not how we think/hope/believe his administration would do if he wins office. Also, you didn't mention Palin, so I'll save that for the footnote and focus on McCain first.
I would give his campaign probably a 30-40 out of 100. The reason is that he (himself) had run a pretty ho-hum campaign. He is, as far as I can tell, a good man with a very compelling story. I generally support *most* of his policy stances, but the issues I have with him have been rather big ones. So factor that into my lackluster rating. In addition, I just don't think he grabs people's attention when he speaks, and in fact probably compells them to look at their watch or flip the channel. I had always felt that this election was Obama's to win or lose. I hope Obama loses, but I didn't think McCain was going to make that happen by his electioneering. It would have had to come from an Obama meltdown, as we've started to see the last couple of weeks, or some of his shady past getting the attention it deserves.
Or...he could make the fantastic VP selection that he did. Everybody with a grey sprout on top of their spinal cord can tell that it's Palin driving the enthusiasm in this campaign for the Republicans, and causing panic and and a collective leave of their senses on the Dem side. In fact, she's just about managed to push everybody else in the campaign out of the way and appears to be going toe-to-toe, gloves off, with Obama, the Presidential selection on the other ticket! Rather unheard of in modern politics, and fun to watch. :D For the record, I'd probably put Palin's performance to date in the 70s...it's still pretty early so I'm not going to get carried away just yet. But I like what I see so far, and apparently so do lots of others who'll be voting in Nov.
REDVOLUTION
09-13-2008, 07:03 PM
A typical scale is 1 to 10, so I'll say 8.5. He's in it when there's no earthly reason why he should be, considering Bush's anemic approval ratings and the down in the mouth status of the GOP .
Agreed.
But then you can flip that around too.... Obama beat Hillary and is in it. He shouldnt be. Neither makes sense... until you add Palin.
Almost seems like history was altered. Should have been Hillary by a landslide and first female US President.
Almost seems like history was altered. Should have been Hillary by a landslide and first female US President.
yup they screwed up not putting Hillary at #1 and Obama as VP imo. They would have won easily and been set up with candidates for a while. Barack would have been able to pick up where Hillary left off and no one would be able to play the experience card
imo, the Dems should have let Michigan and Florida vote
REDVOLUTION
09-13-2008, 07:12 PM
yup they screwed up not putting Hillary at #1 and Obama as VP imo. They would have won easily and been set up with candidates for a while. Barack would have been able to pick up where Hillary left off and no one would be able to play the experience card
imo, the Dems should have let Michigan and Florida vote
Absolutely.
It was win-win for the Dems.
Either way Obama/Hillary or Hillary/Obama. The last 2 elections were 50-50. There is no way either ticket loses.
NOW... Obama, instead of making history, probably altered it.
What could have been a possible 16 year run for Dems has just swung back to the Repubs. 8 years of Bush. 1 McCain. Maybe a batte of battle of women for the 8 years after that.
MetalHead
09-13-2008, 07:18 PM
Pretty good.
When you have a fabricated candidate to run against,the media showing its true colors to the independent voters,the Hollywootards opening their yappers to middle America,and a fresh new face,I would say things are peachy.
The left just does not get it.
Danny White
09-13-2008, 08:35 PM
Bush Senior and Dole both ran lousy campaigns.
Bush Junior ran two very good campaigns, particularly 2004, when he easily could have lost.
Up to about a month ago, McCain was running a phenomenally bad campaign... but beginning with the "chosen one" ad campaign and then especially with the Palin pick, he's been gaining momentum and taking advantage of Obama's lack of momentum.
I'd put him at about a 60 right now, but that number is going up every day.
ScipioCowboy
09-13-2008, 08:57 PM
Pretty good.
When you have a fabricated candidate to run against,the media showing its true colors to the independent voters,the Hollywootards opening their yappers to middle America,and a fresh new face,I would say things are peachy.
The left just does not get it.
Matt Damon might as well have proclaimed "I hate hockey moms" from the highest mountaintop. Poor guy simply couldn't mask his disdain.
:lmao:
CowboyFan74
09-13-2008, 09:02 PM
Agreed.
But then you can flip that around too.... Obama beat Hillary and is in it. He shouldnt be. Neither makes sense... until you add Palin.
Almost seems like history was altered. Should have been Hillary by a landslide and first female US President.
I'm still convinced the biggest downfall for the Dem's is Obama not completely burying the hachet with Hillarity and giving her the VP nod. Nonetheless can you blame him? I wouldn't trust her and neither did he.
VietCowboy
09-13-2008, 09:45 PM
I'm still convinced the biggest downfall for the Dem's is Obama not completely burying the hachet with Hillarity and giving her the VP nod. Nonetheless can you blame him? I wouldn't trust her and neither did he.
just noticed that.
REDVOLUTION
09-13-2008, 10:51 PM
I'm still convinced the biggest downfall for the Dem's is Obama not completely burying the hachet with Hillarity and giving her the VP nod. Nonetheless can you blame him? I wouldn't trust her and neither did he.
It was the smart move. He could have sent all around the world.
Strategy-wise there was no better option. Biden may have worked(still could) BUT now that allowed McCain to do what he did. With that said... Palin looks to be someone who actually has something to offer...
Maikeru-sama
09-13-2008, 10:55 PM
All McCain has to do is tout his experience, his service to his country and fairly decent record of working with the opposition and he wins..period.
Like I have been saying for several months, this is McCain's race to lose (and was called an idiot for saying it), he just has to not Freak it up.
I can almost bet that McCain will be nothing like George Bush. When he first got the nomination alot of conservatives wanted nothing to do with him.
I would have no problem voting for John McCain, as I don't think he is as conservative as he is portraying in the campaign. I just think he and most of the republicans before him have to do it because they need that block of voters.
The old maverick side of him will resurface if he wins the election.
All McCain has to do is tout his experience, his service to his country and fairly decent record of working with the opposition and he wins..period.
Like I have been saying for several months, this is McCain's race to lose (and was called an idiot for saying it), he just has to not Freak it up.
I can almost bet that McCain will be nothing like George Bush. When he first got the nomination alot of conservatives wanted nothing to do with him.
I would have no problem voting for John McCain, as I don't think he is as conservative as he is portraying in the campaign. I just think he and most of the republicans before him have to do it because they need that block of voters.
The old maverick side of him will resurface if he wins the election.
+1
Good Lord, how do post a two character reply without being told your message is too short? :o:
EveryoneElse
09-13-2008, 11:24 PM
Considering the fact that he's not only running against the "Empty Suit", in Obama, but the liberal hack media......I give em an 8.
VietCowboy
09-13-2008, 11:57 PM
+1
Good Lord, how do post a two character reply without being told your message is too short? :o:
need 5 characters
need 5 characters
Thanks. ;)
CowboyFan74
09-14-2008, 01:30 AM
The old maverick side of him will resurface if he wins the election.
WWIV..
VietCowboy
09-14-2008, 08:59 AM
WWIV..
world war 4?
dbair1967
09-14-2008, 09:13 AM
All McCain has to do is tout his experience, his service to his country and fairly decent record of working with the opposition and he wins..period.
Like I have been saying for several months, this is McCain's race to lose (and was called an idiot for saying it), he just has to not Freak it up.
I can almost bet that McCain will be nothing like George Bush. When he first got the nomination alot of conservatives wanted nothing to do with him.
I would have no problem voting for John McCain, as I don't think he is as conservative as he is portraying in the campaign. I just think he and most of the republicans before him have to do it because they need that block of voters.
The old maverick side of him will resurface if he wins the election.
This is a good post.
I keep wondering why the dems continue to try and paint McCain as a Bush clone, when clearly his record shows otherwise and he can easily prove it. It's just another stale effort by the liberals because they know they cant beat him on actual issues.
If I were a true democrat (and not some left wing loon) the choice on who to vote for this election would be incredibly easy. McCain is not a conservative, he is a very moderate republican who has crossed party lines numerous times to work with numerous democratic leaders. Obama has never crossed party lines to work with anyone, his voting record (when he actually votes) is extremely partisan and leftist. He is clearly a socialist and this country will never be succesful under socialism. McCain's "change" that he promotes is being able to work together regardless of party affiliation to get things accomplished for the people, while Obama's "change" is a move towards socialism.
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