McCain-Obama comparison

[dbair1967]

This should be interesting:

2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON TALKING POINTS

ISSUE JOHN McCAIN
BARAK OBAMA

Favors new drilling offshore US
Yes
No

Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it
Yes
No


Served in the US Armed Forces
Yes
No

Amount of time served in the US Senate
22 YEARS
173 DAYS

Will institute a socialized national health care plan
No
Yes

Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy
No
Yes

Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately
No
Yes

Supports gun ownership rights
Yes
No

Supports homosexual marriage
No
Yes

Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase
No
Yes

Voted against making English the official language
No
Yes

Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals
No
Yes

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN
15% (no change)

OBAMA
39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.')

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN

(no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN
- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA
Restore the inheritance tax

Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA

New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!








You can verify the above at the following web sites:


http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes

http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/barack_obama/

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/

Voting Records:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490 (Obama)

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53270 (McCain)

[Aikbach]

You forgot the most important ones:
McCain is an old war vet and POW.
Obama is an Ivy League lawyer and former community organizer that is half black.

Both campaigns thought you should know.

[masomenos]

You forgot the most important ones:
McCain is an old war vet and POW.
Obama is an Ivy League lawyer and former community organizer that is half black.

Both campaigns thought you should know.

Gosh, really? I've never heard about McCain's POW experience before, you think that's something he would play up more. ;)

[jrumann59]

Obama's tax plan really scares me especially with the way the econamy is going. More taxes just floors the consumer confidence index.

[Heisenberg]

All the tax stuff? It's false.

http://snopes.com/politics/obama/taxes.asp

[Aikbach]

Gosh, really? I've never heard about McCain's POW experience before, you think that's something he would play up more. ;)Totally, and Obama needs to tell more people he's half black, America deserves to know.:)

[DaBoys4Life]

Will institute a socialized national health care plan
No
Yes
How does Obama plan to do this

Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy
No
Yes

So does this include the third trimester???
Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately
No
Yes

Supports gun ownership rights
Yes
No

Supports homosexual marriage
No
Yes

Who care about gay marriage

Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase
No
Yes
National health care don't come cheap
Voted against making English the official language
No
Yes

This will make me vote against Obama this is ****ing America everyone needs to learn English or they need to be deported

Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals
No
Yes

They are ****ing illegal get them the **** out the country... Also how are we going to afford the social security benefits when the baby boomers retire.....

[masomenos]

Totally, and Obama needs to tell more people he's half black, America deserves to know.:)

Half black?

Please, McCain didn't have HALF a table for 5 and a half years.
McCain was a FULL POW.
This is just more evidence of Obama not being able to take a firm stance on an issue. Where are the details, is he anything but empty rhetoric? You know, some people even say that his birth certificate was forged.

50% Black, 50% Muslim
100% wrong for our country

It's really a shame that this is how political campaigns go, isn't it?

[Aikbach]

Half black?

Please, McCain didn't have HALF a table for 5 and a half years.
McCain was a FULL POW.
This is just more evidence of Obama not being able to take a firm stance on an issue. Where are the details, is he anything but empty rhetoric? You know, some people even say that his birth certificate was forged.

50% Black, 50% Muslim
100% wrong for our country

It's really a shame that this is how political campaigns go, isn't it?All I know is that only racists would dare not vote for Obama, you're not a racist are you? You better prove it at the ballot, only way we'll know.

[masomenos]

All I know is that only racists would dare not vote for Obama, you're not a racist are you? You better prove it at the ballot, only way we'll know.

Crap, I'm going to come out as either a racist or a sexist on election day aren't I? Maybe I'll just vote Nader.

[jrumann59]

Crap, I'm going to come out as either a racist or a sexist on election day aren't I? Maybe I'll just vote Nader.

Then you will be a racist, sexist. Now all we need is a gay candidate and you would be a homophobe also. :p:

[dbair1967]

All the tax stuff? It's false.

http://snopes.com/politics/obama/taxes.asp

did he flip flop on it? because most of it is/was true at some point. I've read or heard Obama even say some of this stuff.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Then you will be a racist, sexist. Now all we need is a gay candidate and you would be a homophobe also. :p:

Well if you don't vote McCain I guess you can cry homophobe as rumor is his top campaign guy is gay.

[zrinkill]

Maybe I'll just vote Nader.

Please do.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Please do.

RON PAUL all the way baby.

Screw the rest.

[Sasquatch]

Crap, I'm going to come out as either a racist or a sexist on election day aren't I? Maybe I'll just vote Nader.

Or that you hate the country and disrespect the men and women who have sacrificed on its behalf.

Islamo-fascist sympathizer. :p:

[masomenos]

Please do.

I may, he's certainly won me over with his campaign slogan...

"To be, or not to be, a panda."

That's the kind of guy who I want talking to the leaders of China.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I may, he's certainly won me over with his campaign slogan...

"To be, or not to be, a panda."

That's the kind of guy who I want talking to the leaders of China.

:laugh2:

~squawk~ China wants some lead paint ~squawk~

[jwhardin]

If you run with the dogs Barrack Hussein Obama has ran with you're gonna to get fleas. I fought commies in Vietnam, so I really don't want one as president. If I had the talent to be a writer, many years back, I would have written a book titled "The next Great American Revolution". As we get fed up with taxation without representation.

[Heisenberg]

did he flip flop on it? because most of it is/was true at some point. I've read or heard Obama even say some of this stuff.

Actually, no. He's been claiming since the beginning that he was actually going to cut taxes for the vast majority of people. This email and "info" has been around for a while now, but it's still false and always has been.

[Heisenberg]

And just a quick look at a factcheck disproved the gun stuff:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/23/fact-check-does-obama-want-to-ban-guns-and-rifles/

[Heisenberg]

Info on the voting against the English language stuff:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/englishvote.asp

[dbair1967]

Actually, no. He's been claiming since the beginning that he was actually going to cut taxes for the vast majority of people. This email and "info" has been around for a while now, but it's still false and always has been.

repealing Bush's tax cuts, which he did say he'd do, wont result in "tax cuts for the vast majority of people"

[Heisenberg]

repealing Bush's tax cuts, which he did say he'd do, wont result in "tax cuts for the vast majority of people"

He's said he'd repeal Bush's tax cuts for those making 250k+ a year. He's never said he'd repeal the cuts for those making less than that. As a matter of fact, he'd cut them further.

[dbair1967]

He's said he'd repeal Bush's tax cuts for those making 250k+ a year. He's never said he'd repeal the cuts for those making less than that. As a matter of fact, he'd cut them further.

ok...well if you believe that please call me, I have some ocean front Arizona property for you

[canters]

This election cycle is going to get even dirtier than it is now before election day.

We will hear about the Rev J Wright again (legitimate target I think due to his Barrry's 20 yr attendence there), Bill Ayers, Sol A. (Barry's Mentor, according to many on the right), his alleged communist ties, his alleged muslin faith (not a fair criticism), and other things not yet unearthed.

We will hear about McCain's role in the Keating 5, his infidelity in his first marraige, his temper, someone will surface claiming that McCain was dishnorable while a POW, and something not yet known.

What a way we have to run elections!

[DaBoys4Life]

ok...well if you believe that please call me, I have some ocean front Arizona property for you


:lmao2:

[Heisenberg]

ok...well if you believe that please call me, I have some ocean front Arizona property for you

Damn those pesky little facts. :D

[dbair1967]

Damn those pesky little facts. :D

yeah, like Obama=Socialist and will raise taxes to levels never before seen here.

[Sasquatch]

yeah, like Obama=Socialist and will raise taxes to levels never before seen here.

If it's socialism you fear, look no further than Paulson, Bernanke, and the Bush administration's Wall Street Bailout which constitutes a massive government intervention in the marketplace. Bye, bye illusory laissez faire, unregulated, free market economy.

[dbair1967]

If it's socialism you fear, look no further than Paulson, Bernanke, and the Bush administration's Wall Street Bailout which constitutes a massive government intervention in the marketplace. Bye, bye illusory laissez faire, unregulated, free market economy.

I agree...it stinks, something I argued with someone else in another thread about...they said this was a great deal for us...

[ScipioCowboy]

If it's socialism you fear, look no further than Paulson, Bernanke, and the Bush administration's Wall Street Bailout which constitutes a massive government intervention in the marketplace. Bye, bye illusory laissez faire, unregulated, free market economy.

Egadz!

The Elephant (pun intended) in the room!