a wolf in sheeps clothing

[the fake norm hitzges]

i recieved this in my ******* bulletins..........


A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.


Pause a moment, reflect back.



These events are actual events from history..

They really happened!!!
Do you remember?

1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male extremist.


2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim male extremists.


3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim male extremists.


4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim male extremists.


5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim male extremists.


6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim male extremists.


7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim male extremists.


8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim male extremists.


9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim male extremists.


10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim male extremists.


11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim male extremists.


12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim male extremists.


13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by--you guessed it--Muslim male extremists.


No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people... Absolutely No Profiling!

They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year-old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males alone lest they be guilty of profiling.


According to The Book of Revelation:

The Anti- will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE -like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, he will destroy everything.


And Now:

For the award-winning Act of Stupidity of all times, the People of America want to elect, to the most powerful position on the face of the planet -- The Presidency of the United states of America ... A Male of Muslim descent who is the most extremely liberal Senator in Congress (in other words an extremest) and in his 40s.


Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason???

I refuse to take a chance on the 'unknown' candidate Obama...

Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Allreds and other stupid attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.


As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it, 'Stupid Is As Stupid Does.


Each opportunity that you have to send this to a friend or media outlet...do it!

or again. . . just delete if you disagree.


slip of the tongue?

THE HIDDEN SLIP

What's in the heart comes out via the tongue!

From Rush Limbaugh's radio show yesterday.....

Hey, folks, you want to tweak the Drive-By Media with me right now?

You are aware, probably, that Barack Obama lost his bearings
recently and said that he was going to campaign in all 57 states.



You heard this? And everybody chalked it up to, 'Well, he's tired.

You know, this is a Dan Quayle moment.



I mean, Dan Quayle goes out there and misspells 'potato,' and we still hear jokes about it.


Barack Obama says he's gonna go out and campaign in 57 states, he was just tired, you know, it's been such a long campaign, he's been so many
places,he probably thinks there are 57 states.


Well, I have here a printout from a web site called the International Humanist and Ethical Union.


And here is how the second paragraph of an article on that website begins... 'Every year from 1999 to 2005 the organization of the Islamic conference representing the 57 Islamic states presented a resolution to the
United Nations Commission on human rights called combating.


Obama said he's going to campaign in 57 states, and it turns out
that there are 57 Islamic states. There are 57 Islamic states.



Dwell on this for alittle while............ So did Obama just lose his
bearings, or was this a more telling slip, ladies and gentlemen?

KEEP IT GOING, FOLKS! THIS SHOULD NOT BE CASUALLY OVERLOOKED.



LOOK AT THE HIDDEN MEANING.


BEWARE OF THE WOLF...HE'S DRESSED LIKE A SHEEP....!

[ThaBigP]

Madrid. Bali. London. Scotland. Just to name a few more... Berlin. So forth and so on...

[Cajuncowboy]

According to The Book of Revelation:

The Anti- will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE -like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, he will destroy everything.




First of all the word Muslim is not in the Bible anywhere. Second, the word Antichrist appears only in the new testament and then only in 1st & 2nd John and doesn't refer at all to THE antichrist except for:

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Some who study Eschatology formulated this opinion from other historical documents but not from the Bible.


Just FYI.

Now that doesn't mean I don't think Obama is an bad guy. I think anyone who would slaughter a baby is evil. Until he changes his mind on this issue, I will always believe that.

[the fake norm hitzges]

First of all the word Muslim is not in the Bible anywhere. Second, the word Antichrist appears only in the new testament and then only in 1st & 2nd John and doesn't refer at all to THE antichrist except for:

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Some who study Eschatology formulated this opinion from other historical documents but not from the Bible.


Just FYI.

Now that doesn't mean I don't think Obama is an bad guy. I think anyone who would slaughter a baby is evil. Until he changes his mind on this issue, I will always believe that.


you are correct on your reply,however there are more descriptions of the antichrist under different names in the new testament that apply to him.

The Seed of Satan (Genesis 3:15)
The Little Horn (Daniel 7:8)
The King of Fierce Countenance (Daniel 8:23)
The Prince That Shall Come (Daniel 9:26)
The Desolator (Daniel 9:27)
The Willful King (Daniel 11:36)
The Man of Sin (2Thessalonians 2:3)
The Son of Perdition (2Thessalonians 2:3)
The Lawless One (2Thessalonians 2:8)
The Antichrist (1John 2:22)
The Beast (Revelation 11:7)
The Assyrian (Isaiah 14)
The First Horseman (Revelation 5)
The Wicked One (2Thessalonians 2:3-8)
The Idol Shepherd (Zechariah 11:17)
The Vile Person (Daniel 11)
The One Who Comes In His Own Name (John 5:43)

muslim doesnt appear because mohemmed wasnt even born yet and islam did not exist exept in pagan cults like mithrus worship and moon gods which islam sprang.

trinity and rapture isnt mentioned in the bible but im sure you believe in that as well as i do.

[ThaBigP]

I'm more interested in other strange "co-inky-dinks" than the attempts to tie Obama to this. For starters, Adolph Ahmadinejad is a strong believer in the 12th Imam. The one who was presumably thrown down (or hid in?) a well and is to return - soon according to Ahmedinejad. Revelations? Refers to the first beast emerging from the Abyss. A second is to follow from the sea. According to the believers in the 12th Imam, he is to return and guide Islam on its quest to rule the world and lead them on the "correct" path. Revelations? The first beast is to compel the world to worship the 2nd beast from the sea. A new Israel (check). There's also mention of the regathering of all the 12 tribes of Israel, only the southern two we know the whereabouts of today. Jews are called "Jews" because they were the two tribes from Judea, in ancient southern Israel. The remaining 10 tribes were not Jews. But according to the bible, after they were scattered by the Assyrians, some were to go on later to form a "multitude of nations", and others would go on to make "one great nation". From Israel's position, they were instructed to look "to the North" and "to the West" to get an idea of where they would eventually wind up to make these nations. Read into all of that what you will.

[iceberg]

it makes me wanna play a video game.

[ThaBigP]

...or watch Apocalypse Now? heh.:cool:

[iceberg]

...or watch Apocalypse Now? heh.:cool:

same thing.

[ScipioCowboy]

I'm more interested in other strange "co-inky-dinks" than the attempts to tie Obama to this. For starters, Adolph Ahmadinejad is a strong believer in the 12th Imam. The one who was presumably thrown down (or hid in?) a well and is to return - soon according to Ahmedinejad. Revelations? Refers to the first beast emerging from the Abyss. A second is to follow from the sea. According to the believers in the 12th Imam, he is to return and guide Islam on its quest to rule the world and lead them on the "correct" path. Revelations? The first beast is to compel the world to worship the 2nd beast from the sea. A new Israel (check). There's also mention of the regathering of all the 12 tribes of Israel, only the southern two we know the whereabouts of today. Jews are called "Jews" because they were the two tribes from Judea, in ancient southern Israel. The remaining 10 tribes were not Jews. But according to the bible, after they were scattered by the Assyrians, some were to go on later to form a "multitude of nations", and others would go on to make "one great nation". From Israel's position, they were instructed to look "to the North" and "to the West" to get an idea of where they would eventually wind up to make these nations. Read into all of that what you will.

As I recall, the Bible also makes reference to "where the Eagles are gathered." The word "Eagles" is an interesting choice in lieu of your comments.

[ThaBigP]

As I recall, the Bibles also makes reference to "where the Eagles are gathered." The word "Eagles" is an interesting choice in lieu of your comments.

That's a hard one to tie in, after all the Roman Empire, I believe, used an eagle, so did Nazi Germany, even the modern Russian Federation. Among others. But it's certainly got enough to it to make one scratch their head.

[ScipioCowboy]

That's a hard one to tie in, after all the Roman Empire, I believe, used an eagle, so did Nazi Germany, even the modern Russian Federation. Among others. But it's certainly got enough to it to make one scratch their head.

Interpreting prophesy certainly isn't my strength, but I do try to keep my eyes open while having faith that God has a plan.

[iceberg]

Interpreting prophesy certainly isn't my strength, but I do try to keep my eyes open while having faith that God has a plan.

well i hope God finds the WMDs before it's too late. ; )

[ThaBigP]

Interpreting prophesy certainly isn't my strength, but I do try to keep my eyes open while having faith that God has a plan.

And I don't presume to be an expert myself, and truth be told who is? It's even written that no man (and one would presume woman) will know the hour - so it would follow that until it is upon us, any declarations of "I know the date!" are probably just guesses. What I look for is the confluence of events that *seem* to reflect what is written there. And in addition to that, I've looked up various other religion's concepts of "end times". The Myans, for instance, indicate the year 2012 as the end of an age. Often times this is misinterpreted as the "end of the world". It would be more accurately translated as "end of the world as we know it". Islamic prophecy regarding end times likewise reflect Christian beliefs in odd ways as well, but from "the other side" if one so chooses to interpret it that way...a la the 12th Imam, etc. Also, the idea of the "Mogs" and "Magogs" warring with Israel...those "Mogs" and "Magogs" generally are Russia and the Caucuses region. A new "Roman Empire". EU? Dunno. Lots of crazy stuff written, and lots of crazy stuff going on nowadays. And by "crazy" I don't mean the clinical "insane", but rather "grab onto something, this is going to be a rough ride."

[ThaBigP]

well i hope God finds the WMDs before it's too late. ; )

Well, if you'd kept up with South Park, you'd know that He already did. He caught Saddam making WMDs in Heaven (Saddam got kicked out of Hell for treating his lover Satan rather poorly). He disguised his WMD plant as a chocolate chip factory. Serious. Funny stuff. :rolleyes:

[the fake norm hitzges]

As I recall, the Bible also makes reference to "where the Eagles are gathered." The word "Eagles" is an interesting choice in lieu of your comments.

eagles were considered an unclean animal by levitical law.
also the double headed eagle in a pyramid is the symbol for the 32nd degree scottish rite freemason.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/TheFetch/32Eagle.gif

http://www.bilderberg.org/eagle.jpg

[ThaBigP]

eagles were considered an unclean animal by levitical law.
also the double headed eagle in a pyramid is the symbol for the 32nd degree scottish rite freemason.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/TheFetch/32Eagle.gif

http://www.bilderberg.org/eagle.jpg

Well, to be honest, that almost bolsters his original argument, but with a twist. "Where the Eagles gather". That looks like quite a gathering of Eagles. From Europe and the US for the most part. "A multitude of nations" and "one great nation". Heh. Just thought I'd toss that smoke bomb in the room. :o:

[masomenos]

If Obama's the antichrist then isn't it a foregone conclusion that he'll win this election?

[Heisenberg]

http://snopes.com/politics/obama/antichrist.asp

[Heisenberg]

http://www.maniacworld.com/everyone-is-now-dumber.jpg

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[the fake norm hitzges]

http://www.maniacworld.com/everyone-is-now-dumber.jpg

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


what exactly are you refering too?

[Heisenberg]

what exactly are you refering too?

Billy Madison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKjxFJfcrcA)

[visionary]

I'm more interested in other strange "co-inky-dinks" than the attempts to tie Obama to this. For starters, Adolph Ahmadinejad is a strong believer in the 12th Imam. The one who was presumably thrown down (or hid in?) a well and is to return - soon according to Ahmedinejad. Revelations? Refers to the first beast emerging from the Abyss. A second is to follow from the sea. According to the believers in the 12th Imam, he is to return and guide Islam on its quest to rule the world and lead them on the "correct" path. Revelations? The first beast is to compel the world to worship the 2nd beast from the sea. A new Israel (check). There's also mention of the regathering of all the 12 tribes of Israel, only the southern two we know the whereabouts of today. Jews are called "Jews" because they were the two tribes from Judea, in ancient southern Israel. The remaining 10 tribes were not Jews. But according to the bible, after they were scattered by the Assyrians, some were to go on later to form a "multitude of nations", and others would go on to make "one great nation". From Israel's position, they were instructed to look "to the North" and "to the West" to get an idea of where they would eventually wind up to make these nations. Read into all of that what you will.

i usually dont like to get involved in religious discussions because both sides are close-minded especially on this board.

it may not 'jive' with your agenda, and i am certainly no expert, but muslims believe that is not dead and that he will return and lead all mankind to salvation. all this talk about a 12th imam is poppycock and only believed by a small segment.

i can assure you that all the 'revealed' religions are very similar both in terms of the extremists and the moderates. i am quite 'conservative' in my views so it pains me to say that more killing and evil has been (and is still being) perpetrated throughout the course of history in the name of religion than for any other 'cause'. so stop the hate, stop focusing on extremes, and for once actually try to understand each other instead of pointing fingers and generalizing.

[iceberg]

i usually dont like to get involved in religious discussions because both sides are close-minded especially on this board.

it may not 'jive' with your agenda, and i am certainly no expert, but muslims believe that is not dead and that he will return and lead all mankind to salvation. all this talk about a 12th imam is poppycock and only believed by a small segment.

i can assure you that all the 'revealed' religions are very similar both in terms of the extremists and the moderates. i am quite 'conservative' in my views so it pains me to say that more killing and evil has been (and is still being) perpetrated throughout the course of history in the name of religion than for any other 'cause'. so stop the hate, stop focusing on extremes, and for once actually try to understand each other instead of pointing fingers and generalizing.

but that small segment is in power right now. hence the problem of making / forcing this belief on a majority who you say doesn't follow it.

i'm with you on the rest but it's very idealistic and forces people to question the very basis of their own faith.

hard to do.

[ThaBigP]

i usually dont like to get involved in religious discussions because both sides are close-minded especially on this board.

it may not 'jive' with your agenda, and i am certainly no expert, but muslims believe that is not dead and that he will return and lead all mankind to salvation. all this talk about a 12th imam is poppycock and only believed by a small segment.

i can assure you that all the 'revealed' religions are very similar both in terms of the extremists and the moderates. i am quite 'conservative' in my views so it pains me to say that more killing and evil has been (and is still being) perpetrated throughout the course of history in the name of religion than for any other 'cause'. so stop the hate, stop focusing on extremes, and for once actually try to understand each other instead of pointing fingers and generalizing.

First, I'm hardly thumping a Bible here and preaching fire and brimstone. The conversation turned toward an idea that has been batted around in times past - "are we living in the end times predicted in Christian theology"? That's all my point in this discussion was. And I'm having a little fun with it, since in the end that's all you can do, even if you *do* believe to the core of your being what's written in the Bible. After all, the Bible itself says that no man will know the hour, etc etc.

Furthermore, yes it's true the 12th Imam (as far as I know) does not appear in the Quoran since he came about after that book was written. But as Ice pointed out, those who do believe run Iran now, and are working at break-neck speed on developing nuclear weapons. So aside from any religious aspect, there is a very real material price that may be paid by indifference.

Also, your notion of most violence being perpetrated in the name of religion is subject to challenge. Might I point to the hundred+ million dead due to Fascism? Nazism? Communism? It's true much violence came about from religious wars and persecution, but religion in general has nothing approaching a monopoly here.

And as far as I can tell, according to Islam is considered a prophet, and nothing more. Very mortal, and certainly not alive, nor will he be "resurrected" and lead the world to light.

I think what's gotten in your craw is some folks trying to justify in scripture the notion Obama is the antichrist. I've never put forth nor supported that notion. Merely "end times" in general and musing as to what, if anything, could be considered to be allegory to that today.

[visionary]

but that small segment is in power right now. hence the problem of making / forcing this belief on a majority who you say doesn't follow it.

i'm with you on the rest but it's very idealistic and forces people to question the very basis of their own faith.

hard to do.

i agree with you on several points ice.
however my point is not that anybody should question their faith rather that the essential moral values of all these faiths are very similar. we just choose to focus on the differences because even though we say we are willing to 'listen', we close our minds and believe that 'my faith is more right than yours'.
anyway, rant over and (as rome would say) i am out.

[BrAinPaiNt]

http://www.maniacworld.com/everyone-is-now-dumber.jpg

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

^^^THIS^^^

Must be a heck of a guy to be a manchurian candidate muslim, the antichrist, a commie, a marxist AND according to either mccain camp or some republicans the messiah and the "one".

Surprised the guy has the time to take a whiz as he is so busy.

Again this is an example of why people should have to take a test before voting.

[ThaBigP]

^^^THIS^^^

Must be a heck of a guy to be a manchurian candidate muslim, the antichrist, a commie, a marxist AND according to either mccain camp or some republicans the messiah and the "one".

Surprised the guy has the time to take a whiz as he is so busy.

Again this is an example of why people should have to take a test before voting.

I agree - like I said, those who try to use scripture to justify the idea that Obama is the antichrist would be wise to *read* that scripture. In there, they would discover that our mere mortal predictions will fall short. And that such a person would in effect blindside us, coming from where we least expect it. So, one could logically presume that if a significant number of folks are pointing and shouting "antichrist!" at a particular individual, that *probably* ain't the "one". Heh.

By the way, the whole "the One" thing was actually started by the Obama campaign, not McCain's. The "massiah" thing was a mocking of the media's and the Obamamaniac's almost faith-based idolation of him, the "sea levels will retreat", and all that fainting going on in the crowds. The silliness of the Obamamaniacs can't really be denied.

[ConcordCowboy]

http://www.maniacworld.com/everyone-is-now-dumber.jpg

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

No Kidding.

Sorry but someone STILL posting this crap...shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Good God.

UN-Frickin-Believable.

[junk]

^^^THIS^^^

Must be a heck of a guy to be a manchurian candidate muslim, the antichrist, a commie, a marxist AND according to either mccain camp or some republicans the messiah and the "one".

Surprised the guy has the time to take a whiz as he is so busy.

Again this is an example of why people should have to take a test before voting.

Too true. I'm not a big fan of either Obama or McCain, but I have to hand it to the Republicans. They can certainly drag a person's name through the mud with some crazy stuff. Apparently, people are dull enough to believe it.

I would have thought McCain would have done less of this after Bush and Co. did it the same thing back to him back in the day with the illegitimate child nonsense.

[iceberg]

i agree with you on several points ice.
however my point is not that anybody should question their faith rather that the essential moral values of all these faiths are very similar. we just choose to focus on the differences because even though we say we are willing to 'listen', we close our minds and believe that 'my faith is more right than yours'.
anyway, rant over and (as rome would say) i am out.

well question in that they could be wrong as well as right. the "other side" could be right people equate to being wrong. simplistic i know but how i see many react.

most religions are the same and all seem to carry common traits. i wish people would look for the good in all first, not the bad.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Perhaps I missed it but I saw nothing linking this, somewhat far fetched article, to the Republican Party. I mean, it's cool but I didn't see it.

I would also point out that the Democratic Party takes a back seat to nobody in terms of mud slinging and disinformation about McCain and Palin.


If your going to call somebody out then call them all out. The Republicans have had there share of poor political practices but they are by no means alone.

As far as what has been posted, well, I don't buy the Anti thing. There is a long history of that particular term and it's origins and the Muslim religion was not even created when the Cannon were being written so that's not even a realistic corrilation.

With respects to the 57 Muslim States, I find that very interesting and even believable.